(This is really just for interest in the result from this population)
How much importance do you put on sex happening only between two people within a relationship?
What would be your reaction to your partner having sex with another person?
Update: big thumbs up for fidelity (thumbs down for free love?) so far - although that may be influenced by the state of mind people are in when visiting here.
makes me wonder where the "friends with benefits" people sit in the equation...
2 months ago
Update: what a difference a day makes! "faithfulness is paramount" is still in the great majority, but at least now all the options have been covered.
interesting (but not surprising) demographics, particularly in the two extreme options (A vs E).
2 months ago
Update: ...shame there's no age break-down for further analysis.
thanks all for contributing - please cast a vote if you haven't already
2 months ago
Firstly, I would say you should recognize that my answer is mostly affected by the situation I'm in right now, and by my age lol. So I chose B since that would probably be closest to my actual reaction [I don't know for sure considering I've never actually been cheated on]. I put a lot of value on being exclusive and faithful; of course I want to know that this person loves me the most, that they chose me over everyone else and have promised to stay with me. But at the same time, we're human and we're [or at least I am] young. That doesn't excuse everything, but I believe it means that we all at least deserve a second chance. And if we're assuming I'm in love, then I'm not about to give up on them that easily; you work hard for love in every other aspect, why not that one? It seems childish to say that you would never give them another chance just because of one instance, instead of at least trying to work it out. A 'cheater' is not a type of person, it's a compilation of feelings, problems, and situations. I guess that veered off a little. Basically I'd be really hurt, obviously, if someone I loved cheated on me, but I think there's always a chance to make things better, and like hell if I'm not going to try.
If I'm not happy at home I seek it out elsewhere. I know this about myself therefore I don't beat around the bush... when I'm not happy and it can't be fixed I leave in order to avoid possible cheating.
If my man cheated on me the relationship would be over. That just shows he is not ready to settle down and still wants to mess with different girls. If that's the case why would I stay in a fake relationship? Once a cheater always a cheater. If they apologize usually they are only sorry they got caught.
As far as FWB, I think that is just cheap anyway. If you are not in a relationship then you are free to do what you want. You can't put restrictions on someone just because you want to be the only one f***ing them, it doesn't work that way. If they can't be with you 100% either leave it alone completely or just don't worry about what they do when they're not with you. If you feel that strongly about your FWB sleeping around then make it official.
I love my husband so much. I couldn't immediately give up on him or say that our vows were nullified by his actions. I would want to work on it with him... heal with him. I would probably blame myself (at first) - what did I do to drive him away? What am I not giving him that he needs to go to another woman for? Things like that. It would take a long time to rebuild that trust and the relationship would not be the same.
At the same time, if it becomes a common occurrence - it would become obvious to me where the fault lay. It would break my heart, but I would have to say goodbye.
I suppose it would also depend on if I had children. I would probably want to make it work more if we had kids.
interesting that you mention kids as a factor - why do you think that having kids would change what your were able to forgive? - 2 months ago
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Well - that man that may have hurt me in that instant would not only be my husband, but their father. I feel like if you are going to say vows (which my husband and I did), you better mean them. For better or for worse - until death do us part. It was hard for me to grow up with divorced parents, feeling like I was always in the middle, having to choose sides. I don't want that for my kids. I am their living example - I want them to learn the art of forgiveness and compromise. - 2 months ago
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Also, it is for that same reason that I couldn't allow my husband to continuously cheat. I don't want my children to get the idea that it is okay for a person to treat you that way. It is a fine balance. While my husband may be able to get away with more - I would still have to point out the example he was giving his children. Regardless of how he felt about me, he is their role model and should act as such. I think good fathers would change for their kids if compromise was presented as such. - 2 months ago
i have a friends with benefits and at first I didn't mind if he was seeing others I just told him if he gave me something I would kill him. but its been around a year and half and for about 8 months now he's been tellin me he doesn't want me with anyone else so since he feels that way then I feel I should get the same in return plus now I done caught deeper fellings for him so I think if I were to see him with someone else I would probably slap the sh*t outta him. I think if I had proof he was sexin someone else I would cut him loose for good simply because he is tellin me not to do no one else.
In a relationship it is very important. If my man cheated it would be the end of the relationship. I could probably forgive him, but the relationship would never be the same again, therefore pointless so why waste my time. I would be done for sure.
If it were a FWB situation free love is just fine. Everyone loves friends, have all the FWB you want. But in a relationship commitment is very important.
Committed open relationships exist. They may not exist in your mind and you may not want to take part in them but they certainly do exist and there are many couples who enjoy multiple sexual partners and have a primary partner as well. It happens, can be successful and just as fruitful as the classical Puritan concept of 1 partner 1 life. - 2 months ago
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"How much importance do you put on sex happening only between two people within a relationship? What would be your reaction to your partner having sex with another person?"
I realize that it works for other people, I didn't say that it doesn't. The question was what it means to ME so that is the way I answered the question. - 2 months ago
Committed open relationship? that's an oxymoron is it not? there's is no way you can have a committed relationship that's open. because commitment means A pledge to do. well its a pledge in the wedding vows to love and to be with only that one person as long as you both shall live. not till you want to spice it up and want to screw other people. wheres the faithfulness in that? wheres the commitment? it sounds like you gave up if you ask me. - 2 months ago
Oooh Oooh! Pick me pick me! I'm a Friends with Bennies! lol
Where do I stand? On fidelity. If it's a commited boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.
Unfortunately when it's FWB there are a lot of gray areas. Like, for example, I know that my FWB hasn't hooked up with any other girls since we've been "together." In fact, the only reason we aren't "boyfriend-girlfriend" is because he's got some sh*t to figure out and deal with and he's gotta earn it from me. I'm not gonna be with someone as a back-up, I wanna be the real thing and the first choice and I deserve to be.
However, I myself have hooked up with other guys. Mostly while away on vaca. Not a lot, only like three in the past two years. So yeah...
If he had hooked up with other girls I DEF would not be ok with that, especially if he's trying to prove himself to me. But he knows about mine and yeah it bothers him but since he's the one not ready to make me HIS then he knows he just has to deal with it.
Interesting take on what's "allowable" on each side of your relationship - although I'm sure it's more complex than it first seems.
thanks for posting - 2 months ago
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It definitely is and I know it's not fair that everything would be over if he messed around with other girls when I do with other guys (rarely, but still). But that's life. He wants me to himself he's gotta make the commitment - 2 months ago
I chose A, but I think it really depends on the situation maybe? I chose A because that's the type of relationship I've always been in, where we both expect to only be with each other and no one else. Cheating really is the worst thing you can do to someone you're in a relationship with, I think. It's such a betrayal of trust. I would maybe say B, but it'd take me a long time to regain trust in my partner and it would depend on how long we've been together, the circumstances, etc. Definitely not C. That's just torturing yourself. I would say maybe D, if those were the rules of the relationship to begin with, same as E. I'd rather go with E and keep my options open as well, rather than D, where only my partner can go have sex with others. Of course, I'd only do those if that's what was agreed upon to begin with.
Now, I wonder how emotional cheating plays into all of this being faithful and loyal stuff. It's probably easier to hide and get away with, but I wonder how much people would tolerate that.
Interesting. I'm a bit surprised that your reactions would vary according to the initial groundrules - do you think you could cope with a D or E relationship? D simply means you wouldn't be interested in more than one partner, not that you're "forbidden" by some sort of code.
I like that you brought up the emotional cheating. To me I would handle it the same way as if they had slept together. Cheating is cheating and I am done. - 2 months ago
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Well the initial rules put you at a certain type of mindset and so I'd deal with it according to that. If a relationship is honest, then those rules are set by both people willingly. I think I could cope with an E relationship, but not forever. Probably in the beginning, but as time went on, it'd have to change into exclusivity. I think the E relationship takes a toll and leaves you with too much uncertainty. I couldn't do D because I'd feel like I'm giving it my all without getting the same back. - 2 months ago
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I brought up emotional cheating because I think my friend is emotionally cheating on his girlfriend with me. I see how it's just as bad, maybe worse, than physically cheating. The commitment, the attention, the emotional bonding was all being directed at me, and not the girlfriend. He didn't think it was wrong, but I talked to him about it & really made him question our "friendship" & his relationship. I see now how this could affect a relationship and how it's not just innocent friendship. - 2 months ago
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It was partly this discrepancy between the way people view emotional affairs & "real" affairs that prompted me to post this poll: I think you have a good point that emotional affairs are potentially worse - A month ago
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There's a difference between having sex with someone just for sex and getting emotionally involved plus sex. That's also a factor, I think. If the person has sex with someone else once or twice, that's very different than an on-going affair. I don't think I'd forgive an on-going affair, just like I wouldn't forgive an emotional affair as easily either. Sometimes, sex is just sex, but when it's emotional, there's a lot more to it. - A month ago
Fidelty is the most important thing in a relationship. If that is broken, then there is no reason to be in a relationship. I believe relationships are to grow with that person, love them, and learn to like the positive things about them as well as their flaws. If you want to sleep around go with the whole f*** buddy thing, but in a relationship it is key that that you are in a relationship with that person and that person only. If my boyfriend was cheating on me and sleeping with another women, I would drop him so fast. I don't put up with that and I don't think anyone in a relationship should.
So does this mean that sex is the _defining_ characteristic of a relationship/partnership? I wonder how this affects our other relationships with good/long-term friends - does it doom men & women being friends to failure (a la "when harry met sally") ?
thanks for your posting - 2 months ago
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Not necessarily. I feel that sex is a bonuswhen it comes to relationships. I doesn'st make my relationship but do I enjoy it do I love having it with my boyfriend. Of course I do because I'm in love with himand I feel that sex is a way to express your love to someone. But is that the only thing I do with my boyfriend? No. I am just as good with being with his family, going grocery shopping, just talking about nothing, watching movies, playing videogames or cuddling up to one another. - 2 months ago
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I love it all just as long as I am with him it honestly does not matter. And committment I would say is the basis of our relationship not sex. When your serious about someone it's not even about sex it's about trust and loyalty. - 2 months ago
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And guys and girls can be friends it's much harder and you usually risk the whole idea of one falling for the other but it can happen. I have many guys friends and I know they aren't really attracted to me. Mabye they think I'm hot but it's nothing more than that. - 2 months ago
Complete deal breaker. I believe in complete and total faithfulness in a relationship. I love my husband more than anything, but I know I could never trust him again if he slept with someone else.
So... definitely A, except for maybe B ? :P ;) XD - 2 months ago
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Lol, well I was gonna vote B but it didn't mention love and if I wasn't in love with my boyfriend then I would dump him if he cheated, wouldn't even think about it. - 2 months ago
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Oops - well I guess that's me being naive assuming that the pre-existing relationship was a loving one, ah well - 2 months ago
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Depends how quickly you can fall in love I guess. The relationship might only be 6 months old and that isn't long enough for a lot of people to fall in love. Not everyone in a relationship is in love. - 2 months ago
My naivety is showing again then - I thought FWB was, by definition, not exclusive ?
thanks for the post - 2 months ago
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When: 2 months ago
A.
Because you end up hurting someone you love otherwise.
Also, HIV IS REAL, HPV often == Cervical Cancer, Hep kills, etc.
You never know what someone else has, and if you or your partner are sleeping around, you're likely to give them a disease that could harm their long term health. That's no joke man.
So does this mean that sexual activity without relationship (eg one-night stands, several partners in a year, etc) are also just as wrong?
thanks for the posting - 2 months ago
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It IS wrong if you're being with multiple partners & not using protection with people that you don't know the sexual history of, and then having sex with another person after that without protection. That is just working to help spread disease.
If you're always using protection & getting yourself tested, then no, I don't see anything wrong with it.
Even with protection though, there's a risk. And if you're in a committed relationship, it's just wrong to do that. - 2 months ago
Not only is the fact that they are having sex with another person a problem, but whatever their problem is, they should be able to talk to me about it.
When someone cheats, they have a problem so big they can't talk about it with you. That ruins communication when you can't talk about what's on your mind, so that is what is more damaging in this equation.
I should add that its not healthy either, to not allow yourself to feel normal physical attraction for other women, or men. If you do so, you are repressing your normal instincts, and eventually if you don't allow yourself to be attracted to other women or men, you will lose attraction with the woman you're with. It is healthy and good, in long relationships, to explore other avenues, to keep the current relationship healthy...perhaps...
And what are the limits of "keeping the attraction" for other women while in a relationship? going out with them? having them as close friends (ultimate excuse), watching porn? getting turned on by other women? or just watching their bodies and admiration...? - 2 months ago
I agree with you ekspain. I think people put flirting and being attracted to the opposite sex as a HORRIBLE thing, when it really is just normal and shouldn't be looked down upon. (I know this question was about sex and not just flirting/attraction) - 2 months ago
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Thanks for the comments.
as others have indicated, even the idea of a partner being /kissed/ by someone else is enough to cause anguish - of course there are arguably acts of intimacy which are more profound than "simple" sex (think holding hands walking on the beach, etc), so it's easy to see why flirting - especially if it's mutual - can be seen badly. - 2 months ago
I'm OK with the FWB relationships, so long as both sides of it know full well what they're getting into. At least then there are no surprises. On the subject of "open" relationships I for one would not personally go for it, but can understand people going for it. However I can only recommend people getting into it if they really think they can handle it. Though unfortunately most people can't. I've seen tons of people try and usually it's incredibly one-sided. In other words this kind of relationship is set up with one or both parties thinking all about themselves, like as in "Yes I get to fuck whoever I want" and forgetting that the other party is also allowed to fuck whoever they want too. Then when reality sets in, along comes the jealousy. They think that it's great to be able to make with the lovin' but out of territoriality, want their partner to only be with ONE person. Also in most cases there is jealousy and/or rule breaking of whatever the agreement was, which when you get right down to it is just cheating all over again. I think that sums up rather nicely what I think the problem with those kinds of relationships really is.
I prefer a real relationship to be more exclusive. In other words me and the girl only have sex with each other and nobody else. Yes I think being faithful is important. I think fidelity is key. Trust, and respect being the two most important important factors in a relationship after things like all the emotions you feel towards each other. This is why I voted A. In my opinion cheating is an automatic deal breaker. You are violating all trust in the relationship, and you are proving that you don't have enough respect for your partner to stay faithful to them. If someone absolutely must go off and fuck somebody else then at least have the common fucking decency to break up with the person you're dating.
I wish I had something wise to end this post with, but alas I don't. So I guess in this case I'm just going to leave it with me stating that I prefer to be exclusive. I hope this post helped you out a little in understanding where I "sit in the equasion.".
I think the urge for fidelity amounts to a desire for one panacea, one solution, one single answer to all life's miseries. Things are never that simple though!
does this mean that the idea of partnership is an illusion then? should we forge deep relationships (sexual or otherwise) with a number of people? should those people have relationships between themselves? why doesn't that happen more often - or does it? - 2 months ago
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There's no 'should' about it. We already have dozens of intimate bonds with our compatriots, sexual or otherwise. The only thing to do is not repress or deny these bonds. - 2 months ago
relationship with no trust or comitment is nothing more than fbuddys with a title. why be with someone if you can't be faithful to them? why sleep around when you have someone at home on the bed waiting for you?! I also find cheating the most disrespectful thing someone could do to me. its equivalent to someone sh*tting on my grave. its a low blow and really how little respect do you have for that person that your going behind their back and sleeping around not only that but lying to them saying you love them when really your just comfortable with them but tired of them and want to move on but don't know how to grow the balls to break it off. if my girlfriend did that to me I would drop her so fast id be gone before she hit the ground. but I don't have to worry about that and she feels the same way. we love each other and we both feel cheating is the worste thing you can do and loose total respect for them if they do do it..
aren't f***buddies in a "relationship" too? presumably they are friends rather than simply casual acquaintances? - 2 months ago
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If you defne relationship as a friendship then yes you can call it that. but its not what I call a boyfriend or girlfriend type relationship. if you really wanna get down to it you can say I have 4 girlfriends and 4 boyfriends with the main group of friends I hang out with. does that mean I'm doing anything with them than being their friend and hanging out? no its just pure friendship no attraction to any of them no temptation to sleep with any of them other than my g/f... - 2 months ago
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What I am saying is why can't the F buddys give them selfs the title and have some emotion behind their actions. sex is a lot more meaning ful when there's emotion involved and that there's something there other than a hollow sex session. yes a relationship is more than sex and well sex should just be a bonus in the relationship after you two have developed feelings for each other and a desire to be with each other then you should pursue sex if you wish. - 2 months ago
My answer was based on the type of relationship I usually find myself in. Usually I'm in the "committed" type of relationship, and in that case I would be pretty mad about infidelity. If, however, it was made clear from the beginning of the relationship that it was an open one, or that we were just "friends with benefits", then fidelity wouldn't be an issue because we hadn't pledged fidelity to each other in the first place. basically, if someone wants to sleep around, it should be made clear up front that that is the type of relationship they are looking for. Otherwise, it's a betrayal of trust, and that's not ok.
Thanks for the answer. interesting that the response is related to the "ground rules" of the relationship rather than any intrinsic sense. do you think you could ever cope with "D" ? - 2 months ago
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In all honesty, I'm not sure. Intellectually I would say yes, but unless I was in that situation and all the emotions were present, I honestly couldn't tell you for sure. It would definitely be easier to handle if my partner TOLD me about it first though, that much I can be sure of. - 2 months ago
Cheating is the worst thing you can do to someone because all of the different factors and emotions involved. If you're in a serious relationship they are most likely your best friend, someone you depend on the most and of course you find them sexually attractive. When they break that trust and go somewhere else it's hits you on all levels. I don't think I'd ever be able to trust them again and that would be a huge problem. It would be a deal breaker.
To me its really important because if I'm to give my heart to a girl, I've gotta know that I'm the only one that's in hers and that she's only going to be with me.
If my partner Cheats once...and is really sorry/beat up about it depending on the curcicmstances I might forgive her but she would have to earn back my trust...if it happens a second time then its over for good.
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