My 18 year old daughter was dating a 19 year old guy for over 6 months, they started hanging out about 4 months before that. He told her he loved her and wanted to marry her. They got along great and she really fell for him. He came to family functions and my husband and I liked him a lot too. Well in mid Oct. he went to a party without her and got drunk and had sex with another girl. A mutual guy friend of thiers told my daughter, after he thought about it long and hard,the boyfriend had told him it was true. My daughter asked her boyfriend about it and he denied it. He admitted to cheating on her a couple of months ago with his ex girlfreind though (also after he was drunk). My daughter broke up with him. He didn't call or text. They met up at a party a week later and he hugged her and cried and that's about all she remembers because she had a lot to drink. Doesn't know if he apologized, so the next day she texted him saying she missed him and wanted to work things out. He said that he wasn't sure if they should be together, not that he didn't want to, but he needed to think about stuff. Well that was the last time she heard from him, 3 weeks ago. My daughter is so hurt and bitter, here she put herself out there saying she still loved him and nothing. I'd like some guys opinions on this. I know she said he was always stubborn and so is she. When they had disagreements in the past they would each wait for the other one to make the first move. So what is he or was he thinking? Is his ego so bruised that she dumped him? What was he thinking when he cheated on her? They had sex and that wasn't the problem she even told me that he was really good at it. How can a guy go from being totally in love to this? My daughter hates guys and feels so betrayed and fooled. I know she's young, she's a senior in high school the ex boyfriend is a Freshman in college, locally. I keep telling her she's going to meet so many guys when she goes to college in fall. Sorry this is so long but I thought maybe some details would help people understand the situation. Thanks for your feedback.
Update: Well it's been 5 months since I wrote this and last weekend my daughter ran into her ex at a party.He apologized and said he was stupid. Of course he wanted to know if she was seeing anyone & she just told him she's waiting till she starts college in fall
7 months ago
Yes, and some can actually TRUELY mean it when they appoligize unlike some. It's like anything else out there, some will some won't, some will mean it, some won't.
Just like any other situation in life. You have to be able to elaborate which it is, and if it is perhaps sincere because as human's we DO sometimes make MISTAKES. Not always, but OCCASIONALLY am I saying it's right? NO! It's not right to cheat at all. Although does it happen by mistake and pure happenstance YES. That's just a fact of life. It's how you deal with it, and how the other person does that makes the difference. As was notated above, some may truly be sorry, and dedicate themselves to you more just to prove how bad they really do feel, and show you it won't occur again, and make a point of being faithfull. Others on the other hand may take advantage of you and continue doing such acts. Both happen, so just be aware, that the saying,"Once a cheat always a cheat." IS NOT TRUE!
People "CAN" change. They just have to "WANT TO." If they act as if they truly want to then you might just have something. If not well then don't let the door smack you on the way out ;). Because if they don't WANT to change they aren't going to for you or anybody for that matter.
Although I want you to leave this thread knowing that there are some decent guy's out there that if even the slightest of things happened would be upset with even themselves. So this does, and can occur beleive it or not.
Why should he apologize? If he did, why would it matter to you? If that's how he acts, he is scum and his apology isn't worth anything. Of course she said he's really good at sex. he's having a lot of it with various girls and he's stringing them all along. Maybe he felt more for your daughter, but he is immature (imagine that at 19) and has fallen into the trap of playing by society's rules for dating and sex. He is manipulating her, and if he's hooking up with girls so easily after drinking, he's either a liar or belongs in AA.
Drinking at social functions hardly qualifies you for AA. Get real. Alcohol makes you do things that you wouldn't ordinarily do, get over it. - 10 months ago
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Arics doesn't know much about AA. If you're doing behavior you later regret because of alcohol, you should be in AA. No, alcohol doesn't really make you do different things; I drink and somehow I've never cheated on a girlfriend. Get over yourself. - 10 months ago
Just adding a literary note. To apologize means to give an explaination or excuse for someone's actions. The meaning changed to one that is popularly recognized as an acknowledgment expressing regret or asking pardon for a fault or offense.
i think she needs to move on and not have sex with guys in the future till they prove to her that they are worth it. while in this case it looks like he stuck around for awhile in many cases it would weed out the bad apples. she will get over it over time and if she wants to chat with someone neutral about it she can chat with me on here by emailing me on here. she also might want to stay away from dating for awhile and just have fun. he has cheated twice on her from what I can tell in your story so he is not worth her time.
if you could go answer my latest question and give me a brief opinion of what you think that would be great and leave a comment on my answer and we can chat further if you like
The answer is no he will not apologize he cheated before so he doesn't care about her and the fact that she wants him back shows she has no self-respect for herself after what he has done to her. She will get over it in time and hopefully her drinking doesn't get out of control, but honestly they are still young and this is just one lesson everyone learns in their life. I will not say anything about underage drinking it happens these days if the parent approves or not same for sex, smoking and drugs.
sounds like he has a drinking problem even if he did apologize he would keep doing it and break her heart over and over again. your daughter deserves more. just let it be.
Thanks, she's actually seen him one more time at a party and he apologized again but hasn't contacted her or tried to text her which is good. He's back with his ex who he cheated on my dd to begin with the first time. (2nd time was some random drunk chick) It's probably only a matter of time for him to cheat on this ex. What's hard for my daughter is that he used to say his ex was a stupid psycho chick so maybe that's what he likes! And this chick drinks to the point of peeing in her own bed... - 4 months ago
First of 6 months is a short time to be with someone and already decidedyour future with them. He was already cheating on her in that short period of time what 3 times. I think the guy is selfish wants everything for himself. She doesn't need a guy like that. Young girls are so naive. They believe just about anything. I am sorry. Breakups are so damn hard to deal with. I think she should let it go.( It should be him telling her that he loves her and lets try to work things out but that's not the case now is it. ) ? Just be supportative, lots of communication maybe try to do some activities so she can clear her mind and heal.
I don't think you need to worry too much. Her bitterness will pass, it does for everyone, because one day she will realize she had nothing to do with him being an asshole. What more of an explanation do you need? He was a jerk who cheated on her multiple times, lied, and blames his bad behavior on drinking instead of owning up to his mistakes like a man. She only dated him for 6 months, so how well did she really know him? If I were you, I would be throwing her a party for getting rid of him. But I guess I am not as empathetic to her pain as you are. It's sad that she is suffering over this, but I feel it's better to suffer over this guy NOW than she would have inevitably done later. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Maybe it's a good thing she hates guys, it might make her focus on more productive things than jerky men who sleep around.
It doesn't bother you that she is drinking under aged? Also the fact that she is sexually active with a guy who cheated on her, don't you think she needs to be tested? The fact that she is sexually active at all doesn't bother you? Just curious, because I have a daughter as well. Don't mean to sound judgemental, forgive me if I offend you.
Thanks for your comments. Yes it bothers me that she had sex with her bf. The did know each other for 6 months before they actually dated, so she thought she really knew him. They were friends and flirted before they dated. She's been on the pill for medical reasons other then birth control so pregnancy wasn't an issue. She recently had a physical and is ok.
As far as the drinking goes, yes I don't like it but have told her that if she does drink at a party to make sure she doesn't drive. - More than a year ago
This is good advice... it concerns me as a guy that waits before having sex with someone that girls may be harboring bad feelings from jerks like this when they were 18 and naive. The mom should be concerned about how her daughter's actions now with underage drinking and casual sex will hurt her chances of finding someone good when it matters. In reality, getting married at 19 is stupid and will fail 80% of the time. - 11 months ago
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When: More than a year ago
sorry, I'm not a guy, but anyway.
firstly, minors shouldn't be drinking at all, but especially not at a party. not saying I'm all innocent, I did drink underage as well, but only in my own home, specifically so this sort of thing wouldn't happen.
now, on to other matter at hand. odds are he has moved on. younger men are particularly fickle and can love you one day, rethink it and be over you the next. he has already stated that he doesn't think that they should be together. i, personally, think you're daughter should just call it a loss and move on, as it appears he already has. you already know that he has cheated as least once, possibly twice and seems to have a drinking problem. as far as him crying on her shoulder at the party, everybody knows that alcohol makes you act and think differently than you would if you were sober. I know that when my boyfriend drinks he constantly appologizes for things he did years ago, not something he does when he's sober because he knows that I've forgiven him already and we've moved on. saying that he didn't want to break up yet at the same time saying that they should sounds like he was just trying to soften the blow.
i understand how your daughter feels. betrayed, hurt and angry, I've been there (having been with a cheater or two in my life) and I don't know a single person who hasn't had their heart broken at some point. my bf's girlfriend before me had an affair with her boss, got pregnant and then had an abortion. my boyfriend doesn't even know if the baby was his or his ex's boss's. heartbreak is hard, no matter who you are and it does leave you bitter and jaded and possibly hateful for a while, but she will get over it. it is not the end of the world and she will meet a nice guy that respects her and I'm sure the sex will be fabulous.
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