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Corollary to the drunk sex question

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smith2267 (Age:36 to 45)     When: 10 months ago
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If a woman can't consent to sex while drunk, then she isn't responsible for her decisions while drunk. So, how can any woman ever be convicted of drunk driving?


Update: PS, I laugh really hard the more D answers I get. So thanks for giving me a giggle.    10 months ago

Update: The answer that would be consistent with perfect equality between men and women would be C.    10 months ago

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I agree that women are not responsible for drunken decisions. But DUI is different somehow.

Yes, women can neither be held responsible for sexual consent while drunk, nor getting behind the wheel while drunk.

Women are responsible for anything they decide to do while drunk.

Erik is a sexist pig for putting us on the spot with this question.

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helllllointernet
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helllllointernet      When: A month ago
There's different extents of 'drunk'. If you are able to find your keys, locate your car, select the correct key to start the car and then put it into gear/drive/reverse, you can be held responsible for drunk driving because you made the decision to do it.
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Lea1986
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Lea1986      When: 9 months ago
Look---If you are conscious when you make a decision, then you made the decision. Sure it might have been the wrong one, but no one forced you. We all make mistakes, ESPECIALLY when we are drunk. Now, if someone forces you to do some thing (like have sex) that is rape, simple as that.
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Question Asker I agree. Calling drunk sex rape cheapens the actual crime of rape, and does a disservice to the victims of the real thing. - 9 months ago

rockmom
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rockmom      When: 10 months ago
you're not on a rant are you? ; ) yeah, I see where you're going. things can get monotonous. I don't drink and drive (don't drink) but if I ever got a dwi I'd use your plea. =]
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Question Asker I was on a rant, but that was 15 days ago, I'm over it. You're the one keeping this thread alive. - 10 months ago

gravygirl
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gravygirl      When: 10 months ago
Yeah, I've always had an issue with this. Consent is not real if a person isn't truly able to give it. In my mind that means a child or a mentally disabled person. It doesn't mean me after six beers. I don't know of another way to think about that. To call a guy who had sex with me while I was drunk a rapist is to diminish the crime of rape.
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Question Asker EXACTLY!!! thank you. I totally agree about diminishing the real thing. - 10 months ago

amberview
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amberview      When: 10 months ago
Again the real question is should a woman be treated equally. Again, the answer is yes. This wasn't an option below which tells me D is almost the right answer except for the last part as I don't feel put on the spot. Just kidding, I just think you are putting in a lot of prejudice in your questions. I feel that you are just looking at it from the wrong angle. We women who are answering your questions didn't write that law. I have never said that someone I had consentual sex with raped me and won't. I have no desire to. Perhaps the women who do this have mental issues. Maybe the guy would have known that had he gotten to know the person better before bedding them.

I will say this, that guys assume if you do certain things when you are drunk that you are consenting to sex. I'm old enough now to know, but as a young girl I didn't realize that if you went with the person somewhere that it was expected or demanded. I'm older now, so when a guy says to me, "Want to come over and play pool at my house?" or "I'm having so much fun, let's go to my house and talk some more." I understand now that person is probably saying, "We are going to go have sex."

I do believe in a way that a drunk person should be taken care of as they are not possessed of all their wits-male or female. If someone is around that can feel safe helping the person, they should make sure they get home safely and don't choke on their own vomit. :-)
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Question Asker No, C is the perfect equality answer, don't you see that? - 10 months ago
Answerer No, because it is not the same thing as saying that women and men should be treated equally. If that had been a choice, I would have chosen that. - 10 months ago
Question Asker But, men are held responsible for what they do while drunk...so C is the equality answer. - 10 months ago
Answerer We are talking about laws, right? I don't think people are in their right minds while drunk. They are impared. I'm thinking it is too complex to just simply say a woman or a man should is "responsible for anything they decide to do while drunk." I don't think a contract should be legally binding if the parties are drunk for example. - 10 months ago
Question Asker Ok, I hadn't considered contracts when I wrote the question...however, I intended C to be the "equality" answer. - 10 months ago

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The-Nash
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The-Nash      When: 10 months ago
If the car could convince the girl to do the driving, like a guy can try to convince a girl, then maybe. But a car can't do that. And C is still not quite the right answer. That's like saying you're responsible for your actions at all times. What about times of "under duress" when you may have had a justifiable homicide because someone attacked you at gunpoint, and you somehow took the gun from them and they had gotten shot in the altercation. Under normal circumstances you wouldn't normally commit an act like that, you were forced, manipulated by the situation. And that's somewhat similar (an extreme similarity, but one none-the-less) to a guy manipulating and taking advantage of a girl to have sex when she really doesn't want to. You're still forcing/manipulating someone to commit an act they wouldn't normally commit. The car can't manipulate the girl to drive it. Unless she drives a delorian and it talks to her, lol.
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sassygal4 Yes, this is exactly it. A car is just a car and the girl decides on her own to drive and endanger others. In the case of sex, there is another person involved who can take advantage of the situation when a girl is intoxicated. - 10 months ago

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martyfellow      When: 10 months ago
Maybe drunk sex should also be a misdemeanor!
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Question Asker But then, would the girl be guilty of the misdemeanor, if she was drunk and not the man? lol, that was not a serious question, just playing. - 10 months ago
John-Bee Who was doing the driving? Did the girl peruse the guy or the guy the girl?
- 10 months ago
 
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