In our place, I haven't heard any girl who won't date a guy just because he's living at home. Well that's maybe because I'm not living in America or whatever country where as early as 18 someone is expected to move out of their home so I have no problem in dating a guy like that.
I still live with my parents. Medical reasons. Epilepsy. My parents are doing everything they can to make it better, but atm my brain is really screwed up. I have trouble remembering things, including both names and faces. Not being able to remember either makes it impossible to keep friends,(only able to try at church), which I need the most right now... It is also why I can't look for a job or my own place, let alone a woman... Aside from "disposable income", the rest would all be very true. I'd be really embarrassed to admit I lived with them any time real soon after meeting her, but know I would need to...
If I could have a list of favorite posts, I'd add this to it.
I wouldn't care if someone lived with their parents, of coarse it would also depend on their age. If you're pushing 30 years old and still living with your parents, that's pretty pathetic in my opinion. You are a fully grown adult who should have taken full responsibility for your own life by then. I'm almost 22 and living with my parents, but I'm also attending a private college that costs $26,000 per year. Now that's justifiable.
Hahaha no way. I'd rather be with a grown up man, not some kid who doesn't do his own laundry or doesn't cook his own meals. I'd also prefer not to meet the parents early, I don't like that kind of pressure and I also don't give a shit about awkward baby stories. A guy can also be a family guy without mooching off of his parents, and a guy who's mooching off of his parents might be doing it because of the convenience. Not because of the family closeness yay. Bullshit article.
@singlebee really? I'm cold hearted because I want to date a man and not a boy? It would be different if he did his own laundry, cooked his own food or helped his parents cook, paid part of the rent while trying to find a place of his own. But that's not the kind of guy asker was talking about, he was talking about the kind of guy who mooches off of his parents because of convenience. I do my own laundry, cook my own food, I have a job and most importantly I have my own place. It's only fair to want to date someone who's on the same level, or at the very least is TRYING to be on the same level. Nothing is attractive about staying with your parents unless you're also pitching in and working hard.
@CandyandPinkCats wouldn't surprise me if the majority of gag guys are still leeching off their parents and are offended by a woman expecting them to be more independent than that. I worked my ass off to move out at age 20, I expect my partner to be a hard worker too. Not unreasonable in my opinion. :)
So you want a man with money. And you want at least some access to his money? So you can use it simly because you two are together? Like a... wait for it... moocher!
Yet you mock and accuse him of mooching, because he chooses to live with his parents at this point in his life.
@genuinlysensitive uhh what? Like I told CandyandPinkCats, I have my own job, my own place and my own money. I don't need anyone else's money. I don't want to mooch off of someone else. I love being independent, having my own place, being able to pay for my own bills with my own money. I'm also not mocking anyone at all, I'm simply saying that I'd prefer a partner who can take care of himself (just like I do, mind you). Read my comments before jumping into false conclusions.
Well you mocked everyone who lives with their parents, you mocked spending time with his family, you mocked people living at home some more, then you mocked the OP. I mean its all there in black and white... its not like anyone can forget.
@genuinlysensitive no? I'm only "mocking" people who live with their parents for the sake of leeching off of them (more like stating the truth: that their laziness is unattractive). I'm not judging or mocking people who live with their parents as long as they pitch in and work hard. I'm not judging people who live with their parents while actively searching for a new place of their own. I'm mocking people, GROWN UP PEOPLE, who don't do their own laundry. Who don't cook their own food, or help their parents cook. This is something grown ups should know how to do AND actually do, not let their parents do for them. I'm not sure how looking down at such people is a bad thing? They're lazy, leechy and unattractive. Not once did I say that people who live with their parents are worth mocking, all I've been saying is that people who are MOOCHING are worth mocking. Stop putting words in my mouth. Nothing you've stated are things I've actually written, learn how to read.
@genuinlysensitive seriously, stop. I never assumed that ALL people who live with their parents are leeching. I've clearly stated numerous times that my problem lies with the people who refuse to pull their own weight. My SECOND sentence in my original opinion: "I'd rather be with a grown up man, not some kid who doesn't do his own laundry or doesn't cook his own meals."
"not some kid who doesn't do his own laundry or doesn't cook his own meals" ^^^^^^ That's where the problem is. Not that the guy lives at home, but that he doesn't do his own laundry, doesn't cook his own food or help with the cooking in general, and probably doesn't pay a share of the rent or bills either. NEVER did I say that ALL people who live at home are leechers. YOU'RE the one who's making incorrect assumptions.
Yea the OP never said anything about how people who live at home can't do their own laundry or do anything for themselves. I don't know where you keep coming up with that conclusion.
@genuinlysensitive read #2. "Chances are since his mom probably lends a hand with his laundry, he'll always smell like fabric softener instead of last week's sweaty attire." <- Implying that guys who don't have a mother who "lends a hand" wears last week's sweaty attire. Also #4, talking about mom cooking and you (as a girlfriend) being able to leech off of that cooking, just like he does! :) I also never said that the OP said that people who live at home can't do their own cooking or laundry. I've always specifically said that with the examples the OP provided us, it doesn't exactly sound like the guy is pulling his own weight. Therefore, he's a leech. Anyway, I'm done arguing with you about something as petty as this, I don't care anymore. I've made my case, and it's not my problem if you don't know how reading comprehension works.
Ok at least you can read, thats good. Might I point out the words PROBABLY and the phrase LENDS A HAND for #2 and #4 Once again PROBABLY. Even if they do occasionally help out, that by no means, means he is incapable of doing them for himself.
You CLAIM that it is because someone else does some chores once in a while. Ok so then would you refuse to date a rich man who hires servants to cook and clean for him, and therefore cannot do ANYTHING for himself?
@genuinlysensitive yes I would refuse to date such a guy. I value hard work and knowing how to take care of yourself. I think it would be ok if he hired help maybe once a week to help with the cleaning (that's what my family did for a few years when my parents were the busiest). But my parents still did the majority of the cleaning, they just got some help. But if a guy really needs a slave, oops I mean servant, to do everything for him then I would consider that a major turn off and also a deal breaker. Like I've already said, I love working hard and taking care of myself, I expect my partner to do the same.
Oh well, I guess you wouldn't date any rich men who hired live in servants to do all his work for him right? Because that means he can't do anything for himself and is therefore "undateable" correct? And you aren't just one giant hypocrite?
And for the what seems like 100th time, just living with parents does not mean they do everything for you, believe me that is not how it was with my, nor many of my friends when we lived with our parents.
@genuinlysensitive like I said, I would refuse anyone who hires people to do all their work for them. Some help is fine if you've got the money for it, but the important thing is that you do the majority of the work yourself and that you still know how to do the thing (s) that the helper is doing for you. So no, I'm not a giant hypocrite. And for what seems like the 100th time, I KNOW. I have always been specifically talking about the people who live at home and the parents do everything for them. I never said that ALL people who live at home are mooching off their parents.
I will pass, thanks. I like my men independent. No way in hell. I own my own home and am independent and expect the same. He should be able to cook, clean and take care of himself. Also, a man my age or older that lives with his parents basically has no drive whatsoever to better himself. Not attractive.
So... you wan't someone who's better than you basically? I think thats one of the problems with feminism in the 21'st century, granted its great you can do everything on your own, but now you set the bar so high (because you still believe in pre-feminism traditions) you basically have to walk around wall st to find a man.
@Since82ny I do not live with my own parents, am independent and expect the SAME... how does that make me want better than myself? Seems pretty equal to me...
And I am not in the market for a man. I found my dream man and he is all of those things and more.
Yeah, well... it will, unfortunately since he has chronic health problems... but I won't get into that. I am not going to settle for less than I deserve. No woman or man, for that matter should.
1. Yeah, no competition 😢 2. I smell like ahh 😌 3. I really wouldn't like it, nor my parents. But I'm with them from 3PM-9PM only. 4. Best one. She cook better than any restaurant can. 5. I'm rich 😎 6. Yes I'm caring 😶 7. Have a nice time with them 😏
I can respect a man who lives at home that's trying to better his future. But when you lay everything out like this it seems like a major turn off. Like he can't do anything by himself.
I think you are being too literal, it sounds more like he is saying don't reject a guy JUST because he lives with his parents. There is some kind of social stigma among women about this that is usually quite wrong.
If he made a article that shows that a man at home can be independent (pretty much going against the stigma of men that live at home) then responses would be different.
I read both especially where you assumed that "he can't do anything for himself." If you had read and not skimmed the take he never said that. He said they help with laundry, and they cook a few meals. So as I said perhaps you misunderstood or skimmed it in a hurry.
First of all, I read this entire article. This mytake makes it seem like the man living at home cannot be independent and do things ALL by himself. He needs his Mom to guide him. That in itself is a turn off. Women like a man that can LEAD his own way. After a certain age, when Mommy is assisting you in doing every day tasks it becomes a turn off.
"mom probably lends a hand with his laundry" Note PROBABLY and LEND A HAND. So what if someone else does anything all of a sudden he "cannot do anything for himself"? Is that what you expect your man to do in the relationship? ALWAYS do the laundry or you will think that "he cannot do anything for himself"? What about cooking same deal?
" his mom will probably cook enough breakfast or dinner for you to chow down too!" Again note the PROBABLY, not always, not he needs to have mommy cook because if she doesn't he is incapable or anything.
I believe are assuming way too much about both the article and people who choose to live with their parents.
If he's doing these things by himself , as I already have stated I would have no problem with him living at home. If he always needs mommy's help then it's a turn off. That's all I have to say.
Aw you regretting your life choices and excessive use of the internet and gaming? Can't find a girlfriend? Well, this take isn't going to suddenly change the hearts of females so they can magically be attracted to an old fart (well you may not be old but you may be a fart) who plays games all fucking day, etc, etc. Sorry bro, it doesn't work like that.
Dude. You're fucking 5 years older than me. ._. If you're going to base education and shit off age, its not going to work. Age doesn't exactly define intelligence and maturity, it defines experience. So if you're going to try to insult me for being young, which I am.. maybe you should take a look in a mirror because you're very young yourself too. :l
Maybe its a misused stereotype, but people who live with their parents usually are irresponsible and/or can't make a living for themselves. Why else would you live with your parents? Miss them too much? I doubt it. @EnglishArtsteacher
@PreachSunset Here are the reasons why I live with my parents.
1. I'm working as many hours as possible at a job making $8.45 an hour, to help pay for my teaching license, and my licensure tests, which add up to about $400.00 total. Not to mention I have a car payment, car insurance, gas, cell phone bill, and I help my parents out when I can. Plus, I'll have to start paying student loans in six months, In other words, I literally can't afford to move out right now, even if I wanted to.
2. I'm very close to my family. I'm living with my parents, my sister, my brother in-law and my Nephew at the moment. If I lived alone, I would die of boredom, and I don't trust living with a random roommate-Or even a girlfriend for that matter. Why would I move away from the people who have loved me my entire life? That makes no sense.
3. It's smart on my part. I'm trying to save money for a CAREER, so I don't have to rely working overtime at minimum wage job.
Now, I will say, most people who live with their parents in adulthood tend to lack ambitious and are often lazy. It's just unfortunate for people like m who live with their parents and are very ambitious, very hardworking, because we often fall in the "lazy, useless" category of humans.
Well if you're hardworking and you're already helping out your parents of course it wouldn't count. But if you were lazy and maybe did a small part time job and didn't do so well in school or college then i'd say you were irresponsible, not looking out for yourself in future scenarios, etc. But if you work your ass off for not only yourself and you parents as well its a tragic situation and I apologize. I was being stereotypical myself. Good luck. @EnglishArtsteacher
I dated a guy who lived back home when his parents went away for summer. No surprise though, his parents were millionairs can't blame him for not wanting to move out. He moved out again once they came back, so unlike the majority of this post, he looked after himself.
Yea for #5. You are looking at $500-1500 per month in savings. This doesn't count the internet, the gas, hydro and electricity which could add up to about $300 a month.
A $1300 savings per month for 10 years of living with your parents will get you about $230k, more than enough for a house of your own. Maybe multiples, if you are evil and buy multiple houses, rent them out to other guys and still live with your parents.
@crayven I've noticed Americans, especially women confuse conspicuous spending, with "having money." They think if people spend money on anything expensive they must have more saved in the bank. The truth is people who spend the most rarely have anything in the bank.
Also, phrases like "independent" "In the same place" or "ambitious" are typically used as euphemisms for "has a lot of money." Many who use them are gold diggers, but they just don't want to admit it.
I wonder how many who refuse to date a guy because living with his parents means "he can't do anything for himself" would refuse to date a rich man who hires servants to cook and clean for him? You know cause if a guy has others do things for him he isn't "independent" and therefore "undateable." lol
I know this list is satirical (I assume as such) but it entirely depends on the reason.
I'm a workaholic, who just graduated from college and I'm currently looking for a STABLE job. I'm also very close to my family, so I don't mind living with my parents, my sister, my brother in-law and my Nephew. Once I find a stable job, I can help out with my parents with the bills.
Then again, some people are extremely lazy and refuse to help out. It entirely depends here.
It all depends on why they are living with their parents. At my age I have met a couple of guys who lived with their parents. One had screwed up his life (substance abuse) and had moved in with his parents to "start over". Yep he was definitely not dateable. Another guy had moved in with his mother to care for her when she got cancer. Definitely a guy I want to spend time with.
1. lol you're going to have all Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and those with similar culture rooting for you :) 2. Yes but like any other situation there's always a flip side to the coin 3. I also agree with all those who say that those who stay with their parents have a sense of dependency and taking things for granted attitude. There are ofcourse exceptions :)
I can't imagine a case where this is a good thing. A grown man should not live with his parents unless he is caring for them and paying for them. A man should make his own way in the world before he takes a woman under his care.
Nope, It is 2015 and not much has changed. A man must make his way in the world. Those that don't never do. It takes strength, work, and determination. If you fail to develop these, you will never be successful.
I know there are other topics that we do not agree on. But I agree with you 100% on this one. Being responsible and all the qualities you listed in your comment above sadly seems to be a dying out. I personally think a man should make his own way in this world just as you said.
@anon1999 spoken like someone born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Perhaps you failed to realize the bad economy, coupled with decreasing pay of employees and continual raising prices has left many people, especially in the middle class with decreased purchasing power even if they "work hard" and "make their own way." Ofcourse many people who are already rich, have no problem calling evryone who works multiple jobs and can barely pay their bills lazy.
@genuinlysensitive the economy is great at the moment. I love all the young men that blame the economy for their own lack of ambition. There are plenty of jobs out there.
@genuinlysensitive I'm not buying that excuse. I'm in grad school surrounded by people in there 20's and up who own their houses, and condo's. With the exception of those who rent. Yes certain financial problems can prevent someone from leaving home but you are making up excuses that don't fly in 2015.
@SilenRose OMG, you know some people in their 20s, who own their own house? That must mean everyone in there 20s can magically snap their fingers and own their own house just by "being ambitious." Oh wait no they can't. And if the actually DO own the house they really are rich. Do they maybe have a mortgage instead? You'd think someone who knows "the real world" would be know that is how the vast majority of people go, because being able to plop down a few hundred grand+ in your 20s to buy a property means you are either really lucky or mommy and daddy helped. But I guess that is ok as long as you don't live with them right?
@genuinlysensitive well, two things. First, the economy. I deal with it every day. The jobs portion, which is what I think you are referring to is doing quite well. Look up the numbers at BLS yourself. In terms of owning a home. I bought my first home in my 20's. I lived on Long Island and it is NOT a cheap area to live in. So I saved until I could afford a downpayment. I worked and saved. Then I found a small home and got a mortgage. Interest rates were 11% at the time. I had a job that paid 18K/year. That was not enough so I took a sales job and worked my ass off. I was able to afford a mortgage. You can do that too. If you want to work hard. I get tired of whining when I came from a poor family and had to earn my way. If I could so can you. If you tried. But you are too busy making excuses to do that. Well that is my say.
Oh, goodie cherry picked statistics! If you had spent more than two seconds at the BLS site, you would have noted that the vast majority of positions created are temporary and part time employment. You might also noticed it if you went outside your country club/mansion bubble. The vast majority of economic gains have been capital gains, aka stock market, so if you already have lots of money in the stock market, because you are rich, you are doing quite well. If not, you have MBAs applying to flip burgers and fold sweaters because that is all there is.
You bought your first house something like 30 years ago? Congrats! In case you haven't noticed, both Real Estate and cost of living have changed drastically since then.
Well the cost of housing is much cheaper now as a percent of income and interest rates are much lower. I paid 11 5/8 %on my first home. they are 3 now. Most new jobs are always part time. But all payrolls have risen and jobless claims are the lowest they have been in recent memory.
this was yesterdays report: Jobless claims, after trending slightly higher in recent weeks, are back down near historic lows. Initial claims in the June 13 week fell 12,000 to 267,000 which is very near the low-end of the Econoday forecast for 265,000. The 4-week average is down 2,000 to 276,750.
The June 13 week is also the sample week for the June employment report and a comparison with the May sample week is mixed with the latest week 8,000 lower, which is a plus for the outlook, but in an offset the 4-week average is up 10,250.
Continuing claims, reported with a one week lag, reversed much of the prior week's gain with a 50,000 decline to 2.222 million. The 4-week average is 2,000 higher at 2.231 million. Both are very favorable readings. The unemployment rate for insured workers is unchanged at a very low 1.7 percent.
There are no special factors in today's report, one confirming very positive conditions on the unemployment side of the labor market.
Nope nope... I am gonna move out of my house and even the city I live in right now in a month or two...
But if you are gonna live for a short period of time then its OK... I would like to earn my own and live in a separate house... LOL it is much better..
And sex with my girlfriend in my parent's house... no way!!! 😀
I am dating someone who lives with his parents. No drawbacks as far as I'm concerned (considering he's my first boyfriend I've nothing to compare him to)
i am from pakistan and we never leave our parents no matter how rich we get, we will get a big house but we just can't move away from our parents at their old age,
its a lot to with society parents here take care of their kids until college or unless they have a stable job once he get it he does the same for his parents
So for a while parents support both kids and grand parents? That would be financially impossible for a lot of people. Not without considerably dropping the quality of living.
I did date a guy that still lived with his parents. I won't do it again. He didn't value enough what other people did for him and thought everything in life was granted... as cleaned laundry, fresh meals and cold beer.
Well at least you could get a cold beer! That should count for something. But you are right. Try not to judge people because they live at home. Look a little deeper. Then make a wise choice. Good Luck!
I get none of that "adrenaline rush" from trying to not get caught having sex by the parents. I just get annoyed. Now dressing rooms, on the other hand... I haven't had sex in them yet but I know it's bound to happen one day ;)
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In our place, I haven't heard any girl who won't date a guy just because he's living at home. Well that's maybe because I'm not living in America or whatever country where as early as 18 someone is expected to move out of their home so I have no problem in dating a guy like that.
Nice take ^_^
What country are you living?
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I still live with my parents. Medical reasons. Epilepsy. My parents are doing everything they can to make it better, but atm my brain is really screwed up. I have trouble remembering things, including both names and faces. Not being able to remember either makes it impossible to keep friends,(only able to try at church), which I need the most right now... It is also why I can't look for a job or my own place, let alone a woman...
Aside from "disposable income", the rest would all be very true.
I'd be really embarrassed to admit I lived with them any time real soon after meeting her, but know I would need to...
If I could have a list of favorite posts, I'd add this to it.
I always try to get farther in life, though. I'm shy in general, but working on it. I'll also get a job and in college when they're finally possible.
I wouldn't care if someone lived with their parents, of coarse it would also depend on their age. If you're pushing 30 years old and still living with your parents, that's pretty pathetic in my opinion. You are a fully grown adult who should have taken full responsibility for your own life by then. I'm almost 22 and living with my parents, but I'm also attending a private college that costs $26,000 per year. Now that's justifiable.
Hahaha no way. I'd rather be with a grown up man, not some kid who doesn't do his own laundry or doesn't cook his own meals. I'd also prefer not to meet the parents early, I don't like that kind of pressure and I also don't give a shit about awkward baby stories. A guy can also be a family guy without mooching off of his parents, and a guy who's mooching off of his parents might be doing it because of the convenience. Not because of the family closeness yay. Bullshit article.
I'm also not a fan of getting caught while having sex. Especially by a guy's parents. Talk about turn off.
BOOOYAKA!
Actually the way you talk no body is a fan of a girl like you too... you seem very cold hearted person anyways...
Of course he has to do his own laundry and cook. Do any the guys commenting here not do that? I would be shocked if I met a guy who couldn't do that.
@singlebee really? I'm cold hearted because I want to date a man and not a boy? It would be different if he did his own laundry, cooked his own food or helped his parents cook, paid part of the rent while trying to find a place of his own. But that's not the kind of guy asker was talking about, he was talking about the kind of guy who mooches off of his parents because of convenience.
I do my own laundry, cook my own food, I have a job and most importantly I have my own place. It's only fair to want to date someone who's on the same level, or at the very least is TRYING to be on the same level. Nothing is attractive about staying with your parents unless you're also pitching in and working hard.
@CandyandPinkCats wouldn't surprise me if the majority of gag guys are still leeching off their parents and are offended by a woman expecting them to be more independent than that. I worked my ass off to move out at age 20, I expect my partner to be a hard worker too. Not unreasonable in my opinion. :)
So you want a man with money. And you want at least some access to his money? So you can use it simly because you two are together? Like a... wait for it... moocher!
Yet you mock and accuse him of mooching, because he chooses to live with his parents at this point in his life.
@genuinlysensitive uhh what? Like I told CandyandPinkCats, I have my own job, my own place and my own money. I don't need anyone else's money. I don't want to mooch off of someone else. I love being independent, having my own place, being able to pay for my own bills with my own money. I'm also not mocking anyone at all, I'm simply saying that I'd prefer a partner who can take care of himself (just like I do, mind you). Read my comments before jumping into false conclusions.
Well you mocked everyone who lives with their parents, you mocked spending time with his family, you mocked people living at home some more, then you mocked the OP. I mean its all there in black and white... its not like anyone can forget.
@genuinlysensitive no? I'm only "mocking" people who live with their parents for the sake of leeching off of them (more like stating the truth: that their laziness is unattractive). I'm not judging or mocking people who live with their parents as long as they pitch in and work hard. I'm not judging people who live with their parents while actively searching for a new place of their own.
I'm mocking people, GROWN UP PEOPLE, who don't do their own laundry. Who don't cook their own food, or help their parents cook. This is something grown ups should know how to do AND actually do, not let their parents do for them. I'm not sure how looking down at such people is a bad thing? They're lazy, leechy and unattractive. Not once did I say that people who live with their parents are worth mocking, all I've been saying is that people who are MOOCHING are worth mocking. Stop putting words in my mouth. Nothing you've stated are things I've actually written, learn how to read.
You are assuming, incorrectly, that people who live with their parents are leeching, and using that as an excuse to mock all of them.
@genuinlysensitive seriously, stop. I never assumed that ALL people who live with their parents are leeching. I've clearly stated numerous times that my problem lies with the people who refuse to pull their own weight. My SECOND sentence in my original opinion: "I'd rather be with a grown up man, not some kid who doesn't do his own laundry or doesn't cook his own meals."
"not some kid who doesn't do his own laundry or doesn't cook his own meals"
^^^^^^ That's where the problem is. Not that the guy lives at home, but that he doesn't do his own laundry, doesn't cook his own food or help with the cooking in general, and probably doesn't pay a share of the rent or bills either. NEVER did I say that ALL people who live at home are leechers. YOU'RE the one who's making incorrect assumptions.
Yea the OP never said anything about how people who live at home can't do their own laundry or do anything for themselves. I don't know where you keep coming up with that conclusion.
@genuinlysensitive read #2. "Chances are since his mom probably lends a hand with his laundry, he'll always smell like fabric softener instead of last week's sweaty attire." <- Implying that guys who don't have a mother who "lends a hand" wears last week's sweaty attire. Also #4, talking about mom cooking and you (as a girlfriend) being able to leech off of that cooking, just like he does! :)
I also never said that the OP said that people who live at home can't do their own cooking or laundry. I've always specifically said that with the examples the OP provided us, it doesn't exactly sound like the guy is pulling his own weight. Therefore, he's a leech.
Anyway, I'm done arguing with you about something as petty as this, I don't care anymore. I've made my case, and it's not my problem if you don't know how reading comprehension works.
Ok at least you can read, thats good. Might I point out the words PROBABLY and the phrase LENDS A HAND for #2 and #4 Once again PROBABLY. Even if they do occasionally help out, that by no means, means he is incapable of doing them for himself.
You CLAIM that it is because someone else does some chores once in a while. Ok so then would you refuse to date a rich man who hires servants to cook and clean for him, and therefore cannot do ANYTHING for himself?
@genuinlysensitive yes I would refuse to date such a guy. I value hard work and knowing how to take care of yourself. I think it would be ok if he hired help maybe once a week to help with the cleaning (that's what my family did for a few years when my parents were the busiest). But my parents still did the majority of the cleaning, they just got some help. But if a guy really needs a slave, oops I mean servant, to do everything for him then I would consider that a major turn off and also a deal breaker. Like I've already said, I love working hard and taking care of myself, I expect my partner to do the same.
Oh well, I guess you wouldn't date any rich men who hired live in servants to do all his work for him right? Because that means he can't do anything for himself and is therefore "undateable" correct? And you aren't just one giant hypocrite?
And for the what seems like 100th time, just living with parents does not mean they do everything for you, believe me that is not how it was with my, nor many of my friends when we lived with our parents.
@genuinlysensitive like I said, I would refuse anyone who hires people to do all their work for them. Some help is fine if you've got the money for it, but the important thing is that you do the majority of the work yourself and that you still know how to do the thing (s) that the helper is doing for you. So no, I'm not a giant hypocrite.
And for what seems like the 100th time, I KNOW. I have always been specifically talking about the people who live at home and the parents do everything for them. I never said that ALL people who live at home are mooching off their parents.
I will pass, thanks. I like my men independent. No way in hell. I own my own home and am independent and expect the same. He should be able to cook, clean and take care of himself. Also, a man my age or older that lives with his parents basically has no drive whatsoever to better himself. Not attractive.
I agree with you.
@SensualScribe You won't be dating many men then... lol.
I'm independent myself but you're clearly narrow-minded.
So... you wan't someone who's better than you basically? I think thats one of the problems with feminism in the 21'st century, granted its great you can do everything on your own, but now you set the bar so high (because you still believe in pre-feminism traditions) you basically have to walk around wall st to find a man.
@Since82ny I do not live with my own parents, am independent and expect the SAME... how does that make me want better than myself? Seems pretty equal to me...
And I am not in the market for a man. I found my dream man and he is all of those things and more.
Correction- I do not live with my parents (or anyone else's) I live on my own.
Well, good... hopefully the dream never ends for you.
Yeah, well... it will, unfortunately since he has chronic health problems... but I won't get into that. I am not going to settle for less than I deserve. No woman or man, for that matter should.
1. Yeah, no competition 😢
2. I smell like ahh 😌
3. I really wouldn't like it, nor my parents. But I'm with them from 3PM-9PM only.
4. Best one. She cook better than any restaurant can.
5. I'm rich 😎
6. Yes I'm caring 😶
7. Have a nice time with them 😏
Unappealing.
I can respect a man who lives at home that's trying to better his future.
But when you lay everything out like this it seems like a major turn off.
Like he can't do anything by himself.
Perhaps you just misunderstood?
@genuinelysensitive
What is there to misunderstand, when the described bloke in the take has his mom do his laundry for him?
Misunderstood what? The guy described in this article seems as if he can't even wipe his ass without his mommy's help
I think you are being too literal, it sounds more like he is saying don't reject a guy JUST because he lives with his parents. There is some kind of social stigma among women about this that is usually quite wrong.
Didn't u read my first line? Where I said I respect a man that lives at home as long as he has goals?
The problem here for me isn't that a man lives at home. It's that he is dependent on his mom which this article shows.
If a man lives at home and does everything for himself , not a turn off.
I think u only read some of what I wrote.
U are too quick to down vote.
If he made a article that shows that a man at home can be independent (pretty much going against the stigma of men that live at home) then responses would be different.
I read both especially where you assumed that "he can't do anything for himself." If you had read and not skimmed the take he never said that. He said they help with laundry, and they cook a few meals. So as I said perhaps you misunderstood or skimmed it in a hurry.
First of all, I read this entire article. This mytake makes it seem like the man living at home cannot be independent and do things ALL by himself. He needs his Mom to guide him.
That in itself is a turn off.
Women like a man that can LEAD his own way. After a certain age, when Mommy is assisting you in doing every day tasks it becomes a turn off.
Some things you might have missed:
"mom probably lends a hand with his laundry" Note PROBABLY and LEND A HAND. So what if someone else does anything all of a sudden he "cannot do anything for himself"? Is that what you expect your man to do in the relationship? ALWAYS do the laundry or you will think that "he cannot do anything for himself"? What about cooking same deal?
" his mom will probably cook enough breakfast or dinner for you to chow down too!" Again note the PROBABLY, not always, not he needs to have mommy cook because if she doesn't he is incapable or anything.
I believe are assuming way too much about both the article and people who choose to live with their parents.
If he's doing these things by himself , as I already have stated I would have no problem with him living at home.
If he always needs mommy's help then it's a turn off.
That's all I have to say.
That is actually much clearer, than your original post. Thank you for clarifying.
Aw you regretting your life choices and excessive use of the internet and gaming? Can't find a girlfriend? Well, this take isn't going to suddenly change the hearts of females so they can magically be attracted to an old fart (well you may not be old but you may be a fart) who plays games all fucking day, etc, etc. Sorry bro, it doesn't work like that.
You're 15.
Shouldn't you be playing with legos?
Dude. You're fucking 5 years older than me. ._. If you're going to base education and shit off age, its not going to work. Age doesn't exactly define intelligence and maturity, it defines experience. So if you're going to try to insult me for being young, which I am.. maybe you should take a look in a mirror because you're very young yourself too. :l
"Age doesn't exactly define intelligence and maturity,"
There's a huge difference from even 15 to 18, and I'm just under 21.
Believe me kid, there is a BIG difference.
BIG difference, kid.
@PreachSunset So you assume adults who live with their parents are lazy, and use the internet excessively, and "game" too much?
Maybe its a misused stereotype, but people who live with their parents usually are irresponsible and/or can't make a living for themselves. Why else would you live with your parents? Miss them too much? I doubt it. @EnglishArtsteacher
@PreachSunset Here are the reasons why I live with my parents.
1. I'm working as many hours as possible at a job making $8.45 an hour, to help pay for my teaching license, and my licensure tests, which add up to about $400.00 total. Not to mention I have a car payment, car insurance, gas, cell phone bill, and I help my parents out when I can. Plus, I'll have to start paying student loans in six months, In other words, I literally can't afford to move out right now, even if I wanted to.
2. I'm very close to my family. I'm living with my parents, my sister, my brother in-law and my Nephew at the moment. If I lived alone, I would die of boredom, and I don't trust living with a random roommate-Or even a girlfriend for that matter. Why would I move away from the people who have loved me my entire life? That makes no sense.
3. It's smart on my part. I'm trying to save money for a CAREER, so I don't have to rely working overtime at minimum wage job.
@PreachSunset
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Now, I will say, most people who live with their parents in adulthood tend to lack ambitious and are often lazy. It's just unfortunate for people like m who live with their parents and are very ambitious, very hardworking, because we often fall in the "lazy, useless" category of humans.
Well if you're hardworking and you're already helping out your parents of course it wouldn't count. But if you were lazy and maybe did a small part time job and didn't do so well in school or college then i'd say you were irresponsible, not looking out for yourself in future scenarios, etc. But if you work your ass off for not only yourself and you parents as well its a tragic situation and I apologize. I was being stereotypical myself. Good luck. @EnglishArtsteacher
@PeachSunset I figured my situation didn't apply to your original claim.
I dated a guy who lived back home when his parents went away for summer. No surprise though, his parents were millionairs can't blame him for not wanting to move out.
He moved out again once they came back, so unlike the majority of this post, he looked after himself.
Yea for #5. You are looking at $500-1500 per month in savings. This doesn't count the internet, the gas, hydro and electricity which could add up to about $300 a month.
A $1300 savings per month for 10 years of living with your parents will get you about $230k, more than enough for a house of your own. Maybe multiples, if you are evil and buy multiple houses, rent them out to other guys and still live with your parents.
living with your parents is an advantage that people shouldn't pass up. Shared income, Family closeness... What's not to love about it.
are you on my block list?
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Apparently not spending money needlessly for bullshit you don't need in your single life = not independent enough... or something lol
@crayven I've noticed Americans, especially women confuse conspicuous spending, with "having money." They think if people spend money on anything expensive they must have more saved in the bank. The truth is people who spend the most rarely have anything in the bank.
Also, phrases like "independent" "In the same place" or "ambitious" are typically used as euphemisms for "has a lot of money." Many who use them are gold diggers, but they just don't want to admit it.
I wonder how many who refuse to date a guy because living with his parents means "he can't do anything for himself" would refuse to date a rich man who hires servants to cook and clean for him? You know cause if a guy has others do things for him he isn't "independent" and therefore "undateable." lol
I know this list is satirical (I assume as such) but it entirely depends on the reason.
I'm a workaholic, who just graduated from college and I'm currently looking for a STABLE job. I'm also very close to my family, so I don't mind living with my parents, my sister, my brother in-law and my Nephew. Once I find a stable job, I can help out with my parents with the bills.
Then again, some people are extremely lazy and refuse to help out. It entirely depends here.
It all depends on why they are living with their parents. At my age I have met a couple of guys who lived with their parents. One had screwed up his life (substance abuse) and had moved in with his parents to "start over". Yep he was definitely not dateable.
Another guy had moved in with his mother to care for her when she got cancer. Definitely a guy I want to spend time with.
Seriously, the age of the guy needs to be in question.
22 and right out of college? Fine.
Mid forties? That even makes ME dry up.
1. lol you're going to have all Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and those with similar culture rooting for you :)
2. Yes but like any other situation there's always a flip side to the coin
3. I also agree with all those who say that those who stay with their parents have a sense of dependency and taking things for granted attitude. There are ofcourse exceptions :)
And Turks & Greeks
Ah thank you for adding on young lady @ConfusedGrocer :)
I can't imagine a case where this is a good thing. A grown man should not live with his parents unless he is caring for them and paying for them. A man should make his own way in the world before he takes a woman under his care.
What, is this 1942?
Nope, It is 2015 and not much has changed. A man must make his way in the world. Those that don't never do. It takes strength, work, and determination. If you fail to develop these, you will never be successful.
AMEN!!
I know there are other topics that we do not agree on. But I agree with you 100% on this one. Being responsible and all the qualities you listed in your comment above sadly seems to be a dying out. I personally think a man should make his own way in this world just as you said.
Yes i agree with this. I want to have my own house before i date
@anon1999 spoken like someone born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Perhaps you failed to realize the bad economy, coupled with decreasing pay of employees and continual raising prices has left many people, especially in the middle class with decreased purchasing power even if they "work hard" and "make their own way." Ofcourse many people who are already rich, have no problem calling evryone who works multiple jobs and can barely pay their bills lazy.
@genuinlysensitive the economy is great at the moment. I love all the young men that blame the economy for their own lack of ambition. There are plenty of jobs out there.
@genuinlysensitive I'm not buying that excuse. I'm in grad school surrounded by people in there 20's and up who own their houses, and condo's. With the exception of those who rent. Yes certain financial problems can prevent someone from leaving home but you are making up excuses that don't fly in 2015.
@anon1999 If you think the economy is great, you really must have be out of touch.
@SilenRose OMG, you know some people in their 20s, who own their own house? That must mean everyone in there 20s can magically snap their fingers and own their own house just by "being ambitious." Oh wait no they can't. And if the actually DO own the house they really are rich. Do they maybe have a mortgage instead? You'd think someone who knows "the real world" would be know that is how the vast majority of people go, because being able to plop down a few hundred grand+ in your 20s to buy a property means you are either really lucky or mommy and daddy helped. But I guess that is ok as long as you don't live with them right?
@genuinlysensitive well, two things. First, the economy. I deal with it every day. The jobs portion, which is what I think you are referring to is doing quite well. Look up the numbers at BLS yourself.
In terms of owning a home. I bought my first home in my 20's. I lived on Long Island and it is NOT a cheap area to live in. So I saved until I could afford a downpayment. I worked and saved. Then I found a small home and got a mortgage. Interest rates were 11% at the time. I had a job that paid 18K/year. That was not enough so I took a sales job and worked my ass off. I was able to afford a mortgage. You can do that too. If you want to work hard. I get tired of whining when I came from a poor family and had to earn my way. If I could so can you. If you tried. But you are too busy making excuses to do that. Well that is my say.
Oh, goodie cherry picked statistics! If you had spent more than two seconds at the BLS site, you would have noted that the vast majority of positions created are temporary and part time employment. You might also noticed it if you went outside your country club/mansion bubble. The vast majority of economic gains have been capital gains, aka stock market, so if you already have lots of money in the stock market, because you are rich, you are doing quite well. If not, you have MBAs applying to flip burgers and fold sweaters because that is all there is.
You bought your first house something like 30 years ago? Congrats! In case you haven't noticed, both Real Estate and cost of living have changed drastically since then.
Well the cost of housing is much cheaper now as a percent of income and interest rates are much lower. I paid 11 5/8 %on my first home. they are 3 now. Most new jobs are always part time. But all payrolls have risen and jobless claims are the lowest they have been in recent memory.
this was yesterdays report: Jobless claims, after trending slightly higher in recent weeks, are back down near historic lows. Initial claims in the June 13 week fell 12,000 to 267,000 which is very near the low-end of the Econoday forecast for 265,000. The 4-week average is down 2,000 to 276,750.
The June 13 week is also the sample week for the June employment report and a comparison with the May sample week is mixed with the latest week 8,000 lower, which is a plus for the outlook, but in an offset the 4-week average is up 10,250.
Continuing claims, reported with a one week lag, reversed much of the prior week's gain with a 50,000 decline to 2.222 million. The 4-week average is 2,000 higher at 2.231 million. Both are very favorable readings. The unemployment rate for insured workers is unchanged at a very low 1.7 percent.
There are no special factors in today's report, one confirming very positive conditions on the unemployment side of the labor market.
Nope nope... I am gonna move out of my house and even the city I live in right now in a month or two...
But if you are gonna live for a short period of time then its OK...
I would like to earn my own and live in a separate house... LOL it is much better..
And sex with my girlfriend in my parent's house... no way!!! 😀
I am dating someone who lives with his parents. No drawbacks as far as I'm concerned (considering he's my first boyfriend I've nothing to compare him to)
i am from pakistan and we never leave our parents no matter how rich we get, we will get a big house but we just can't move away from our parents at their old age,
its a lot to with society parents here take care of their kids until college or unless they have a stable job once he get it he does the same for his parents
So for a while parents support both kids and grand parents? That would be financially impossible for a lot of people. Not without considerably dropping the quality of living.
I did date a guy that still lived with his parents. I won't do it again. He didn't value enough what other people did for him and thought everything in life was granted... as cleaned laundry, fresh meals and cold beer.
Well at least you could get a cold beer! That should count for something.
But you are right. Try not to judge people because they live at home. Look a little deeper. Then make a wise choice. Good Luck!
I get none of that "adrenaline rush" from trying to not get caught having sex by the parents. I just get annoyed. Now dressing rooms, on the other hand... I haven't had sex in them yet but I know it's bound to happen one day ;)