Girls, it is ok to have high standards!

[Anonymous]

I am so looking forward to the many bitter, salty ass males that will be commenting on myTake. If this myTake did offend you, can you place your complaint at [e-mail]. You may or may not get a reply but hell, it is worth a shot.

So this take is going to target mainly males.

So I was dating this guy for two weeks and to be honest, he isn't the type that I am used to. He was a supermarket worker, didn't have a dollar to his name, had no ambition, sex was terrible and he was a selfish lover.

And this is me: I now work with the Australian government, I get a paid a great wage, I have a car, a degree, 2 certificates, a nice little nest egg, a nice looking bank account and just placed a deposit for a house of my own. I am 27, I have my shit together. I am also attractive. So I can have high standards, right? So here I was , looking at him and I said to myself "Go ahead, Noora. Give him a chance."

You know, my mum was right about one thing. I am a beautiful, accomplished girl but I am also extremely desperate at times. Sometimes, I get lonely and I do want some dick to cuddle up to me every now and then.

So I gave him a chance, and boy was it a bad decision. After fucking three days, I paid for everything and I stupidly gave him money to borrow. I get paid a lot so it's change from the back of the couch for me. But still, I felt like the man in the relationship. I advised him to quit his job and at least get into the police force (he was the one that wanted to- basically, he just sits back and dreams without doing anything). You know I might as well be a lesbian because some of you trifling ass males don't know how to be a man if it sodomized you.

I sent him a text dumping him after a week- it's all he deserves. I wrote "Hey, I won't be able to make it tomorrow, have a good one and take care". He in turn wrote "Fine! Yeah, I will have a great one!" I didn't reply, being the dumpee hurts.

So ladies, here are the following reasons why it is good to have high standards.

1) They will never ask you for money

Trust me, you will feel like a man and you will not be comfortable with the change of roles. You will be the one paying ALL of the bills, and he doesn't have the fucking decency to pay quarter of it.

2) Your friends and family will be ok with your beau

You will never have to deal with your mumma crying and saying the dreaded sentence "Where have I failed you?", your daddy getting the shotgun everytime your princess fuckboy wants to go out to the bar instead of finding a job, your friends won't talk about you behind your back saying how desperate you are.

3) Never EVER feel pressured when some salty ass boy who works at fucking subway, with no dollar to his name to date him just because he has a "personality"

Your personality ain't gonna pay the bills, boo boo.

4) It is quite alright to expect a man to treat you nice

Dear men, when has it become not ok to spoil your woman once in a while? To pay for her meal? To maybe get her some motherfucking roses once in a while, or maybe get her a nice piece of jewellery once in a while? For example, I once had a boyfriend who spoiled me, bought me nice stuff. I in return bought him nice trinkets too. Then he hit me because I dress nice and he didn't want guys to look at me.

5) If your standards won't get you a man, well it is better being alone than with some trifling ass fuckboy who won't do anything for you anyway

Face it, you can get dick in every area code. What makes him so special? Bitch please.

So men, get your shit together, have some goddamn ambition, treat your woman nicely and buy her things every once in a while. We aren't expecting you to have a fucking ferrari or anything, we just expect you to have a roadworthy vehicle so that you don't bother us and borrow our vehicle. We expect you to own your OWN money so that you won't have to ask us to borrow some of ours. Don't you have any respect borrowing money from a woman?

BE A FUCKING MAN!

Hope you enjoyed myTake. And ladies, I pray that you all get the man of your dreams. If you don't, don't resort to these fuckboys. Promise?

[ThatJarHead]

This sounds a lot like a personal problem. Though I agree with having high standards I must agree with @kirah on her opinion. It's fine to want what you want. It isn't fine to expect to be catered to. Though your experience with men may be poor at best, most men probably have equally appalling if not more so stories to tell. I know I do. You may work for the government but did you ever think that "just wanting a dick to cuddle up to me" was an improper line of thinking? That seems needy and selfish. Exactly how does one be a selfish lover? Because you didn't get off? You realize that durning vaginal intercourse it is very unlikely that the female gets off? "He has no money" ok fair. No one wants a partner who can't sustain themselves. However, did you ever think he doesn't have a good job because there is something restricting that? Maybe he simply can't find a better one. You obviously know more about his career status than I do. But still. Having standards is fine. You're attacking men. That is the sole purpose of this take. You are attacking the men who haven't done anything with their lives. Fair. Did you ever stop to think about the men who have? Like myself. I am married and happily so. I gpwork for Activision Publishing as Server Management and run 2 of my own businesses. I make a 6 figure dollar a year. My wife? She doesn't work. She doesn't want to. Does that bother me? Yeah, it definitely does. She's an intelligent woman and very skilled. However I make enough to support us both and our respective hobbies and vices. So I push her to succeed in the world yeah. However I never judge her on what she hasn't done. That's not fair. You can't judge someone on something they haven't done. If you are going to judge someone judge them on what they have done. In short this is generalistic and very much sexist. The fact that your attacking men and women are calling you sexist should be a clue. You definitely don't deserve that editor title if you post shit like this. This is my opinion. You're a sexist woman and should be ashamed of this take. Now. I'm going to happy relationship that is perfectly imperfect. Goodbye.

P. S: if a man can't ask his woman to borrow the car or help a little with the bills then neither can women. If I couldn't ask my wife occasionally to let me use her car because mine isn't practical for the task at hand then she can't ask for money, etc. Favours and gifting goes both ways if you don't give you don't receive. End of story.

[myTake Owner]

Babe... you're whipped.

[ThatJarHead]

Yeah. And proud of it.

[loveisbeautiful]

Well, I'm not a man but I'm most assuredly offened by this take. I don't have much respect for people who think they can disrespect others because they've been wronged in their life. I've been hurt by many people in my life and I don't like people all that much but I would never be this rude and disrespectful to other people like that. You can be hurt, you can be angry and you can even be bitter if you choose but don't take it out on other people. That's not right.

So, let's go over this take of yours, shall we?

Let's start with that guy you dumped. First, there's nothing wrong with working at a supermarket. I had a thing for cashier at our grocery store and I even left him a note, though nothing came of it. If something would have, I wouldn't have cared about him working there because I wasn't after his job or money. The thing I wanted most was to get to know him, all that other stuff is meaningless to me. So, I don't think him working at the store is that big of a deal. And, if you didn't want to pay for everything then you shouldn't have. Maybe this guy wasn't your type but the way you treated him was wrong.

You think just because he what worked at a supermarket and borrowed money from you, that he doesn't deserve a proper break up? You think he only deserved a text message that wasn't even a break up? That is so beyond wrong, I don't even know what to say. From what I've read you've had people treat you badly in relationships and for that I'm sorry but why on earth would you treat someone as badly as people have treated you? That guy know matter what you think of him, deserved more then a cryptic text message that was more then a little unclear in it's actual intent and purpose. That's very wrong and I hope on some level you know that.

[loveisbeautiful]

Second, I'm not sure why people think what they have and how they look somehow defines what they deserve but that's not true. What a person does, what they make, what they have and what they look like doesn't define who they are or even make them a good catch or a good person. I mean, if we go based solely on status and what the outside showed to the world. Ted Bundy had his quote "shit together". He came from a good family, he was well educated, was attractive and was even going to have an internship in Washington DC. So, I suppose to some he'd be the perfect catch. Except for that one tiny minor detail of him being a serial killer and rapist. My point of mentioning Mr. Bundy is, just because we have it all together or it looks that way doesn't mean we don't have hidden skeletons in the closet.

[loveisbeautiful]

Sometimes, what we have is an easy way to hide who we truly are. So, just because they look good on the outside doesn't the mean their good on the inside. And, just because someone has all the things you have doesn't mean that they are worthwhile. What makes a person worthwhile is who we are and how we treat people, but not what we have.

[loveisbeautiful]

Third, being as that you think very highly of yourself and think you deserve the best of the best. I would think a person who works for the government would be more eloquently spoken and not have the mouth of truck driver. I would also think someone who wants the best guy there is would not speak so disrespectfully of men or treat them in such a disrepectful way. I would also think someone who works for the government would be more classy and mature, instead of being crude and act like she's teenage girl. But, what do I know.

[loveisbeautiful]

As for your points of why it's good to have high standards, I don't agree with any of that and even if you did have any good points they are lost on me because of your laguage, disrespect of people, thought process of what makes a person worthwhile or your idea of what a relationship is about in general and most importantly your immature pictures that involve phrases like "get a life loser" and statements made by you such as "your personality won't pay the bills, boo boo" and calling guys "trifling ass fuckboy".

So, based on all that. Why would I take advice from you on relationships? And, how could anybody ever take anyone like that seriously? Most importantly, why would they? What actual knownlegde have you bistowed upon us women that we should listen to you, for any reason?

[Anonymous]

Well all I can say is it's going to be a lonely life then because young women getting degrees are 2 to 1 compared to the number of men doing the same.

Now I'm not a poor guy who works at subway but I also don't have a degree and I'm NEVER getting one. Why? Because I have a real man's job and real men have too much work to do to have time for sitting pretty inside a lecture hall gossiping with the girls.

As a qualified electrician, my trade taught me more science and maths than most science teachers and in my profession, women are seen as liabilities in the workplace. It's usually the blond bimbo executive walking on to the work site with her high heels on that completely disregards all the warning signs and ends up nearly killing herself or someone else.

Do I think you should give poorer men a chance? Do you think men should give poorer women a chance?

Why is it OK for a woman to stay home her whole life with no job just because she gave birth to a baby and sent it off to boarding school with her husband's money but its not OK for a man to work in a supermarket or as a pot washer in a busy kitchen and make less money than you for 1000 times more work?

The difference between you and me is I don't actually resent the the freeloading mother who used nothing other than her biology to secure the rest of her life. This is the world, you do what you can. I understand that she is simply not smart enough to pass through the education system.
It's just the same that not every man can afford a degree or be able to complete one and that doesn't make them bad in bed or less of a man. They're a man just as much as a woman who can't get pregnant is a woman.

I guess working for the government makes you stupid.
If you work for the government, I hold you responsible for the shit state of the country.

I shouldn't be surprised though because I see your kind blindly walking through a work site in your high heels every week.
If you're the kinds of people running the country, no wonder we're in the shit.

[myTake Owner]

Dude... nothing wrong with being an electrician. I would definitely date you if you treated me right. And don't you dare bag on someone with a degree. I was not one or those gossipy bitches. I focused on my studies and wanted to be the top of the class. I had a distinction average.

[KRIEL55]

Ha all these bitter guys getting butthurt now of course, not surprised. So according to some of you, its okay for a guy to rely on his girl and always ask for things, but if a girl expects something from a guy, she's a gold digger! (another negative word made just for women) and this mytake isn't even about her expecting a guy to do everything for her. its about having standards high enough to go for guys who are as equally successful as you instead of a guy who will just live off of you and who are just straight up losers (i noticed some of you are outraged by the way she dared to mention he's bad in bed, because how does she even know, has she had multiple sex partners? is she comparing? does she actually care about how a guy is in bed? what a judgmental hoe!!! but all the guys who care about how a girl is in bed, there's nothing wrong with them its natural and normal for guys to judge a girl). and HOWW dare she say men should sometimes give us gifts? omg what a typical lazy golddigger!!! smh -_- what happened to chivalry and true gentlemen. we don't expect you to shower us with gifts for no reason, we do the same back. Just as she mentioned, she actually has a job and obviously has her shit together. and some of you are just not on the same page, stop bitching about it and do something about it instead.

[myTake Owner]

You have perfectly summarized what my take was about. But no, because of guys egos, and naive chick's naivety, they made it about themselves.

[KRIEL55]

yup. i can't believe that even after my little summary of your mytake, some petty guys still voted down. they basically just agreed that they think its okay to rely on some girls while being lazy af but when a girl expects to be treated nicely, its horrible. wtf kind of world do we live in. all the guys voting this down, your PATHETIC.

[SilenRose]

@KRIEL55 Not only some of the guys but a few of the girls. It'seems like they don'the want to be treated like respect and attack the myTake Owner.

[KRIEL55]

@SilenRose yup. some of these girls are brainwashed by controlling men. i hope they get help.

[Calex]

Here's my response to you ;]
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1703620-do-you-wish-that-real-girls-were-as-beautiful-as-anime-girls

[KRIEL55]

@Calex ok?

[Calex]

Seems you don't understand. Never mind xD

[Spotme]

Once again a post from you where you mention how successful and attractive you are. Do you ever not mention that? Are you this way IRL as well? If so I can understand why you're having problems with men. I mean kudos to you for having your 'shit together' and everything, but I have a feeling that if you were a little more modest then things would go a lot better for you. by the way if that's you in your profile picture, then you're really not that attractive. I'm not saying you're unattractive, you're alright, but you're definitely not as attractive as you think you are.

There is nothing wrong with having high standards. Anyone can have high standards, not just the attractive and/or successful ones. If you hold out longer, then chances are higher that you're going to find a better match for you, but at the same time you need to prepare for the fact that you are probably going to be alone longer or even risk not being with anyone at all. Loneliness vs compromise, that's something most people have to decide for themselves.

In the beginning of this myTake you anticipate salty men and men who will take offence. I can honestly say that I'm not salty or offended by your opinions. I just disagree and think they're kind of stupid. I mean I agree that men shouldn't ask their woman for money and treat them nicely, but that just seems like common knowledge.

One of your boyfriends hit you for dressing a certain way and the other one just leeched on you. And as a point in your myTake you say "You will never have to deal with your mumma crying and saying the dreaded sentence "Where have I failed you?", your daddy getting the shotgun everytime your princess fuckboy wants to go out to the bar instead of finding a job, your friends won't talk about you behind your back saying how desperate you are.". It really seems like you are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find the kind of men that would treat you that way or trigger such a response. I don't think that has anything to do with having high standards, I think that has more to to with not having extremely low standards.

Also, I don't think there is anything wrong with dating someone who works at subway or places like that as long as they can provide for themselves.

Basically what I got out of all of this was some basic knowledge that should just be obvious to everyone mixed with the personal opinions of a woman who has had some bad experiences and just has to let some rage out.

[AleDeEurope]

Everyone needs to have high standards. Yes, it's tougher to find the right person, and you'll feel lonely some days (you fetch for some dicks when that happens, I fetch for some pussy xD). But in the end, when you find that person, the wait is worth it. Obviously you gotta have reasonable standards, can't ask for a guy to be multimillionaire and you're just a cashier, he's not even gonna see you xD

I agree with this take, with what you say about high standards, I have them too. I want a woman who's ambitious, one that has her shit together. I don't wanna be the one to pay all the bills and everything for her while she does nothing at home. I'm her boyfriend, not her dad/butler, if she's an adult, she can pay for her own shit and contribute. If then she's also a lady, and not an entitled woman, she'll get spoiled some times.

I don't like the fact that you just refer to men when it comes to being someone, cause like I said, a woman can't have high standards for men, and then be a walking trash. She needs to hold herself to some standards too.

[Anonuser2020]

This can go for guys too. I will def be a lot more picky after my 1st relationship ended in heartbreak because I lowered my standards and let someone into my heart that didn't belong there. This guy was completely unambitious and very lazy. I was hoping that one day he would get inspiration and figure out what he wanted to do in life. He never made the slightest effort. I don't need a rich man, but I do want stability where my man will want to have a job that he enjoys and isn't a close to min wage job. The guy doesn't have to have his future completely planned out, but he needs to make an effort. Yeah I also worked a min wage job, but I kept researching about going back to school (I know all the requirements, programs etc) and right now I am moving to a more professional job. He gave me an illusion that he was determined. When i do talk about marriage to a guy I won't be swept off my feet I will question him and ask "how are we gonna make that happen?" Lowering your standards will end in a broken heart or a life, even having kids (which would be very sad).

[Anonymous]

I get where You're coming from, @Starfishlover
It is entirely fair not to have to support your S/O financially, but dehumanising someone and disrespecting people based solely on job and income is not cool. Women can't really expect to be gifted more stuff by their men than men can by their women, unless there is another exchange... Relationship dynamics just don't go that way any more.
As you set standards higher, there are less men. Not really a problem, but you really can't expect vagina ownership to make you deserving of the top 100% (don't try to call me out for that one), or anything at all really except respect (same goes for penis ownership, you get the idea)
Yes, there is a natural role that men tend to fill in relationships, which is often giving the gifts or being the strong protector, but really if that guy wasn't manly enough then that's different to letting him borrow money and getting him gifts. If you want a 'dick to cuddle up to', then don't complain if he's just that. Its your choice to get him stuff, if you do that it's not up to him to give stuff back.
It seems evident you thought you wanted a fuck (s), but you really wanted a relationship. Maybe he didn't think that.
Finally, text breakups are only accpetable in these situations:
a) none
b) none
c) none
d) If he abuses you (SAFETY)

Just try to find that guy who meets your standards, if you can't... solve it yourself. Love > Money, don't expect all men to aim to be your perfect man (note that I didn't say they shouldn't - we should all try to be the best possible person, even if we do not make it)

Finally, many of your points are valid - but for an Australian government employee, try to be less crude in your language and more diplomatic - you'll get your message across better with less confused hate. You do sound like you expect the fact you have a vagina to mean men have to spoil you and have more money than you. I'm sure you don't really believe that literally and aren't really highly misogynistic like your MyTake sounds.

Thank you for reading this reply (if you do) :D

Male (in case you're wondering)

[KDA20]

Interesting take - As you predicted when I read the responses it became enveloped in a quagmire of negative discussion quite frankly I gave up after a few because I felt it was getting nowhere. My view is that dating and relationships are all about the personalities of the people involved. You and I may have differing ideas about who our ideal partner would be but that doesn't stop us having our own standards about meeting this person. Society should support you and I in achieving our ideals.
I have absolutely no problem with you, I find you very honest and upfront about what you want and they are qualities I appreciate even though I may not agree with some of what you say.
In conclusion what can I say, I agree with one of the responders who says how you phrased your take may have lit the fuse. It is obvious you are as very intelligent, articulate young woman who from what I see has a lot of good qualities. I don't know maybe if you presented your case less forcibly and let it be known that you are willing to discuss your views constructively, it might get you further.
I am not speaking from my high horse here, I am speaking from experience for years my debating tactic was throw in the stick of dynamite then go in guns blazing for the fightback from other people. Now in life I think of two opposing sides in an argument and how small each positional area is and there is an awful lot of middle ground going to waste that can be used constructively.

[KDA20]

Quick clarification - "Willing to discuss your views constructively", not a comment directed solely at you but all participants in any future debate on your views,

[hellionthesage]

The issue I have with this isn't that you would want these standards, in fact you are biologicly driven to such, its that they seem to apply only to men. Did you act like a woman in your relationship? Because from the sound of it you act like a man. So in that regards isn't it a little hypocritical that you would expect men to act like men while you yourself do not act like a woman? Again I fully understand the reasoning behind what you are saying its the lack of reciprocation that I find to be off putting. Don't demand that men act like "men" unless you are willing to act like a "woman". Don't take this the wrong way, I am not offended, its just that you act in a masculine way (gloating about how great you are your job and your money all things that are characteristic of male behavior not female) while expecting men to treat you like a woman (while not exhibiting any overtly feminine characteristics yourself). Perhaps thats your problem? That you expect men to act like "men" but you yourself don't know how to act like a woman?(Again this is not meant to be insulting but it is apparent you are bitter and have relationship issues.) The fact is a man doesn't seek a woman out that he has to compete with, men compete with men every waking moment, he seeks a woman out because he doesn't have to compete with her. By actin as a man you are likely increasing the odds that these "real men" won't want to be with you. Its hard to treat a woman like a woman when she refuses to act like one. Again not meant to be offensive, just speculation based upon the limited data provided.

[Anonymous]

"I advised him to quit his job.." -Which would lead to him depending on you more. Makes total sense. Gives you something to bitch and complain about, right?

This mytake makes me hate women like you more. If you make so much money than why are you overly concerned about a man buying you a whole shit load of expensive materialistic garbage? That is pretty much all you referred to in this take. You want money. You want a man to spoil you. You are not this mans daughter so why does he have to be in any way entitled to spoiling you and lavishing you with things whenbyou are far from deserving shit off that mans shoe?

Note to the ladies with a brain in your head- Don't be like this woman under any circumstance! This is not having high standards!

And a little side note to you- get a fucking vibrator and save all men the trouble of coming into contact with your ignorance. It'll actually be beneficial for you in the long run. Vibrators are cheap. Wouldn't put a dent in your finances "like a man would".

[myTake Owner]

Excuse me. Had you had the brains to read, I only advised him to quit his job and be a cop because he was bitching about it the whole time. What business did I have with him? I was going to dump him anyway. My only grievance was that he was a gold digger and I unfortunately found out about this after I dated him. Why don't you date him and see how tolerant you would be. And about materialism, I only stated that it is good to think about a woman once in a while. So yoi don't want a man to spoil you? Ok then. Calm your tits lady.

[Opinion Owner]

If you were "going to leave him anyway" then why would you advise him to leave his job? Which could very well be the only stable thing he had going in his life. Cause you've made it quite clear to me that you were far from stable for him. The truth of the matter is that he deserves better than you.
I'm sitting on a lot of money myself lady and I still have respect for every single person out there who is trying to better themselves. Unlike you. You truly lack the ability to have respect for anyone or anything around you because you've allowed your money hungry ways to control your life.
I bring home close to $13,000 a month, sometimes a bit more. And you wanna know what my husband does? He's a coach for elementary and middle school aged kids. He doesn't bring home much at all. Maybe $800-900 a month. Does this mean I'm technically supporting him? Kind of! But when you're a decent human being and you love someone and respect someone money is far from a concern.

[Opinion Owner]

And no, I don't want him to spoil me with materialistic shit. He spoils me in an old fashioned manner which is all I will ever need from him. He loves me and cherishes me without a whole line of material shit to back himself up. I don't need that. I don't want that. I want his loyalty and his compassion and his honesty because those factors alone out rule any Gucci hand bag or Ferrari.

[myTake Owner]

Still you missed my point. I wonder how you got that supposed job.

[Opinion Owner]

Surely not by fucking my way up to the top like I'm sure you've done. I'm a lawyer. Money comes with the territory. And no, I haven't missed the point. And if I have missed the point than that is on your wording entirely.

[myTake Owner]

Excuse me... watch your mouth. I have the talent and the integrity to not do that. You are disgusting, lady. And yeah, you are a lawyer. Sure.

[myTake Owner]

And again, you did not read the whole take or if you did, then you are extremely stupid for taking this take in a different way than I intended. But the fact that you would rather hate on people (you make me sound pleasant compared to you) shows what type of person you are. Girl please.

[Zeanobia]

Why are men entitled to spoil a woman like you? Why should I wish to spend any money on you at all? After reading your take through, I fail to see what I get in return. In the fifties at least it'd mean that you'll stay in the kitchen and also wash my clothes. Today I'd normally get either love or preferably getting paid back somehow "I paid for the movie so you pay for the snacks and soda".

So in short, why should this fuckboy spend is precious money on you? What's in it for me that my right hand can't already do for free?

[Zeanobia]

*his

[Opinion Owner]

@Zeanobia exactly! This woman deserves nothing. Especially where she is willing to give nothing in return.

[Zeanobia]

In that case, I'd stick with Palmela Handerson. She knows what I want and never ask for anything in return!

[myTake Owner]

Hahahahha

[Zeanobia]

Given your laugher and lack of objections to my questions, it's established. My hand is a better girlfriend than you'll ever be and men are better off without you.

[Kirah]

Nice sexism. You only date guys with money? Talk about shallow. I'm sure that if you have time to write myTakes like these, you're probably not earning much money yourself. Let me guess, you're "traditional"? Get out of the 1950's, please.

This entire take just reeks of sexism and "pay for my stuff". It's fine to have high standards, just don't come crying to me "where have all the good men gone?" when you're 40 and all you have is your cats. 😂

Now excuse me, I have to get back to my boyfriend who I actually love as a person, rather than loving his bank account.

[myTake Owner]

Kirah. ... give me your bank account details for the purpose of transferring every single cent I have if you don't change your mind after 2 years. I used to think exactly like you. And I am an extremely stubborn woman. Extremely. You will look back on this and think that I was right. My take was mainly about guys who expect to live off a woman's expenses and not do shit for themselves. But you go back to your penny sucking boyfriend (I do hope for your sake he's not lile that and spoils you from time to time). If he doesn't, I can assure you that you will look at other girls and have resentment towards him build up and you will be thinking where your effervescent youth went.

[Kirah]

@Starfishlover well, I've had this point of view for a long time, and I doubt it'll change.

My boyfriend and I both work, please don't jump to conclusions about him being a "penny sucker". It's fine to expect a partner who won't mooch off of you, don't get me wrong. As long as you don't mooch off of your partner either. Your take makes it sound like you only want men for their money, which is probably why you're getting so much negativity.

[CavScoutTrooper]

And here, we observe the difference between love and class.

The Princess & the pauper vs The queen and her subjects.

I'm proud of you and your relationship. I'm proud that there are still women, people in the first place who value virtue over cashflow.

Maybe the MytakeOwner is right, maybe people like us will be living from paycheck to paycheck, maybe our lives won't be lavish and our shoes cheep, however I like to think at the end of the day we can hold our heads high to girls like her who hold there's so, and we can say...

We have something that you may never have, True love... and THAT, you can place NO price tag on.

[Applefan1]

Hahaaha I love you, what you say is so true.

[Kirah]

By the way, I don't know if it's been 2 years yet, but I didn't change my mind. Now, where's that money you promised me? :D

[CavScoutTrooper]

Well, I could talk you ear off about how the is sexist because of Gender roles, or cliche you with Love should be the only thing that matters and by we are not weighed by material computations...

But...

Instead, ill just reverse things.

Having standards is fine, just expect your snooty standards to find others who equally have those kinds of standards about you. (From which you may or may not meet)

Since things, status & cash are so important too you, you can assume the mate from who you choose, or chooses you will care about those things as well, even if its a tad bit more than he cares about you.

This is fine however.

All around the world, relationships like this exist, where social status is a tad bit more important than love. You're one of those people who view things like that. (The kind who would want "The best" for your child and place her in a Romeo & Juliet kind of situation, because her choice doesn't happen to have a name like Wellington Lloyd behind his first name.

Again, this is fine.

Just expect to find exactly what you are looking for, and though it is completely true what you say, (No one likes a deadbeat) you'll also find that you could be equally as unhappy, even if your man was a Royal.

My proof? Ask any person in Hollywood.

In closing, I do wish you all the best, just when or if you have children, dont force your daughter to make your same mistake.

Some value true happiness over true wealth.

"Did you drop this golden axe? Or this old rusted axe, honest woodsman's"
. ---Fairy in the Lake---

[Anonymous]

I don't get why people are so offended by this take. I mean, every good looking guy will choose a good looking girl - someone who is on the same level. So if a successful, financially independent girl looks for a guy who is also successful, why does that piss people off so much?

[myTake Owner]

Because they think I'm a gold digger and didn't understand the true nature of my take.

[BreatheMe19]

I think it was the way it was written.

[JuicyBrain]

You can have the "standards" you want. It's your choice. It's your life. I respect that. I am sure there will be someone for you somewhere. I like how you want him to spoil you but you don't want a loser so you don't have to pay for him. You want the pros of gender roles but not the cons.

This all sounds exactly like you really. Seriously, you are so full of yourself and entitled. I want this. I should have that. He should treat me like this. I have money. I am beautiful. He should pay for me, I shouldn't have to pay for him. I, I, I, me, me, me... BUT, I am NOT high maintenance even though I sound like the shape of my butt is only compatible with the seat of a Mercedes. Face it, you're a diva !

[jessicorn]

i stopped reading after the over praise you do about yourself...

i mean its ok to have high standards, but whats not ok is to put down others to make yourself feel better...
you're talking as if you pity dated him... & thats really awful of you to do so.

[FakeName123]

Same here. That praise was a complete turn-off from the entire take.

[jessicorn]

@FakeName123 indeed and no matter what argument she'll bring up it just can't be taken seriously because of her personality

[myTake Owner]

Oh I didn't pity date him, I dated him because he had this trait called 'nice'. And yeah maybe I am a little bitter and angry... not above admitting that. I. am angry because why the hell do I have to have the short end of the stick when dating guys when chick's who are absolutely worthless cheating hoes get the best guys? That my friend, is the reason that gets my gears riled.

[jessicorn]

well they probably have sth you don't see haha. you might think you're amazing and stuff, but to the 'best' guys you might be the 'worthless' one...

[Mesonfielde]

Jewelry is pointless expense, and honestly if you earn as much as you claim you do, you may as well buy the expensive crap for yourself. If we want to judge people's worth based on their financial status, we may as well say you should pay everything for yourself: don't you have any self-respect borrowing from a male?

Anyways, this take is extra sexist and I will be out.

[myTake Owner]

Spoken like a true fuckboy. 'Jewelery is a pointless expense'. It's a symbol of you working hard to spoil her once in a while. Is that not ok? Or are women only supposed to destroy their bodies to have children for you, cook and clean after you for nothing? Oh wait, we are supposed to cater to your worthless asses because we are supposed to love you for just the hell or it. And why in God's name did a female support this stupid statement?

[CavScoutTrooper]

Probably because she realized how sexist your mytake was.

You call men who dont meet your ideology of a "True man" worthless... but what IS a true man? Anything he wants to be, anything else is adding gender roles, which is sexist.

Also, Winston Churchill once said,

"We as humans are not weighed by Material Computations"

Now, I dont mean to qwote movies, but look at Titanic, that was an example of Love vs stuff.

Cal was rich, he gave Rose the "Heart of the Ocean Daimond" and the promise of a wealthy life, but jack gave to her something more important than even that. Something so important, she was willing to risk dying by his side in the North Atlantic, than living a stable life in the United States.

He gave her true undying love... and that was enough.

Now, maybe I'm just an old fool, but I think its something mighty special when love supersedes all other things. Personally, id have it no other way.

Heart of the Oceans a big Diamond though lol.

[Mesonfielde]

Probably has to do with you asking some random dude you've only known for a week to quit his current job then dumped him for "not earning as much as you", and essentially saying that people who work minimal wage jobs or don't own a car are all worthless individuals because they can't afford as many things.

Then you go on about how while you have thousands of dollars in your bank account, YOU buying THEM something "makes you feel like a man" as how dare a woman ever spend any money on their partner; but HE should because you have a vagina which is TOTALLY a valid reason to feel entitled to be bought free stuff from whatever money he has left on his budget.

And your comment clearly shows that you only see two things in males:
1.) possible additional financial resource
2.) inevitable destruction of your physical appearance

I'm pretty sure when my mother had 3 kids, "how it will affect her body" was NOT the first thing in mind. I don't think she was selfish and vain enough for that.

[poppy1977]

Did the take owner just call you a "fuckboy", i actually apologize on behalf of her. She deserves to be called a bitch actually.

You had a valid opinion and she could not handle your intelligent response and resorted to name calling. Take owner is pathetic. If i was a guy she would not deserve a second of my time.

[myTake Owner]

@poppy1977- Ah, I was looking forward to the likes of you. So I'm a bitch for expecting a guy to have a job and support himself and perhaps spoil me once in a while? Ok then. It's funny how an old woman verifies herself by calling a younger woman a bitch for the sake of it. I think it is you who is a major bitch. Let me guess, you're probably divorced? Now I bet the sole reason for your divorce was because 'we just drifted apart'. THAT Is A Bitch Move. So why don't you first read what I meant and stop being thirsty naive enough to agree with everything he says because you have it out for me or something. Bitch.

[myTake Owner]

Secondly, if you know me and perhaps stop calling people a bitch, you would see that I have been more than generous with these fuck boys when I got nothing in return. Why do I go out with them you ask? There is no 'them', there was only one person. And society says you have to give some people a chance. So I did. Only to understand why I shouldn't have wasted my time.

[Mesonfielde]

@starfishlover no, I'm pretty sure @poppy1977 understood exactly what you meant, which is why she agrees with me, and disagrees with you. You never really replied to my comment, so I'll just point to that; it's above poppy's comment.

[myTake Owner]

OP. Just admit that you dislike anyone that disagrees with yiu because you can't handle a difference of opinion.

[Mesonfielde]

Well if we're talking about how all men who earn less than you or don't have at least one car are all waste of oxygen, and how if they "spoil you" then that's great but if a female buys a male something then she ought to feel bad about herself "feeling like a man" and "role reversal", then I'm most likely not going to support your sexist and misandrist agenda, sorry. Disliking specific people takes effort though, I'm lazy for that.

Nah, it's just that if you expect guys to shower you in gifts, then you should be okay with buying them stuff. If you're repulsed by the idea of buying guys things because apparently it's wrong to do that if they have a penis though, then don't expect them to buy you anything. Things go both ways, you're not entitled to special treatment just because you were blessed with a chasm between your calves.

Although if your primary concern in a relationship is money, money and money; then I dread and feel sorry for any guy who ever bothers attempting to date you.

[myTake Owner]

And she thought you were intelligent. What I said was that girls shouldn't date guys who can't support themselves and would resort to living off the woman. Its also good to spoil a lady once in a while.

[Mesonfielde]

If that's all you had said, people wouldn't be so counter-offensive. :P

""are women only supposed to destroy their bodies to have children for you, cook and clean after you for nothing? Oh wait, we are supposed to cater to your worthless asses because we are supposed to love you for just the hell or it.""

You quite obviously hate all men in general; and you also show entitlement based on that you have a vagina - and it doesn't go both ways because apparently "you'll feel like a man" if you ever do something nice for your partner. Sexist double standards, that seems like a valid term here.

I've already specified all other issues in my previous comments, I think.

It's quite obvious that you're probably better off if you date someone who isn't struggling financially, but that doesn't mean every guy who struggles with money is a worthless scumbag.

Objectively, I think you screwed up by adding point #4. That's where you come off as a gold digger beyond that you already have tons of $$.

[aithe4ngel]

I personally hate jewelry for my own reasons... well most kinds especially if its important for a dollar tag.. anywho some things you can buy yourself but there's just not the same effect when you buy yourself a huge teddy bear as to when your given one by surprise.

[poppy1977]

"So I'm a bitch for expecting a guy to have a job and support himself and perhaps spoil me once in a while?" , firstly hi bitch!!
Did you even read what i wrote, er no, lets start again... i called you a bitch because the OP gave his opinion and you called him a fuckboy!! when he said nothing offensive to you. Grow up!!

"Ok then. It's funny how an old woman verifies herself by calling a younger woman a bitch for the sake of it." - Ok then its funny how a young women with university degrees calls someone a fuckboy when he expressed his opinion without calling you names. PLEASE BITCH, stop digging a hole for yourself, oh, wait you can't read, sorry bitch!! Why did you call the OP a Fuckboy for the sake of it!!!

"I think it is you who is a major bitch." - No honey-cup i'm afraid its you who's the bitch... look at the label on your dress... it clearly says BITCH, oh wait, you have no comprehension skills.

"Let me guess, you're probably divorced?" - Sorry honey, i'm not divorced.

[poppy1977]

continuing bitch...

"Secondly, if you know me and perhaps stop calling people a bitch, you would see that I have been more than generous with these fuck boys when I got nothing in return." - Ah, i understand you met fuckboys before, alright, no problem, so why do you call the OP a fuckboy when you don't know him? Oh wait a second, you have a university degree honey, Aww, sorry bitch

One day you will get older and realize you were Big Bitch.
Sorry OP for blowing up your notifications. This bitch needs her place for calling you a fuckboy when you expressed a valid opinion. She is confusing you with her real life experiences.

[myTake Owner]

@poppy1977... Woooooow. I didn't realize you had some serious issues. Praying for you honey.

[Mesonfielde]

""are women only supposed to destroy their bodies to have children for you, cook and clean after you for nothing? Oh wait, we are supposed to cater to your worthless asses because we are supposed to love you for just the hell or it.""

Nope, I'm pretty sure your misandry is the real problem. All you have to do is stop being sexist and hating people based on their genitals; that, and it's clear that you hate the "role" you assign to yourself. Are you sure you have your shit together if it results in so much hatred?

[myTake Owner]

I was actually talking about fuckboys in general. How they expect so much yet give so lit the.

[myTake Owner]

*little.

[Zeanobia]

So it's pathetic for a woman to spoil a man but men are expected to spoil a woman? How is that NOT sexist?

[Mesonfielde]

@Zeanobia nononono, apparently it's not "pathetic", it's "role reversal" and will eventually make you feel like a man and unsatisfied with your relationship, hah!

[Zeanobia]

Well if she wants to embrace classic gender roles then why don't she walk into a kitchen and make me a sandwich? Having to make food makes me feel so feminine!

[Mesonfielde]

@Zeanobia don't be silly, that is misogynistic! :p

[Zeanobia]

I guess you're right, it's probably better to just submit and pay her tribute.

All hail Mistress @Starfishlover! The Queen of fuckboys!

[UnknownXYZ]

@aithe4ngel @Zeanobia @CavScoutTrooper Entertainment at its finest. Welcome to GAG!

[aithe4ngel]

@UnknownXYZ 0.0 um thanks... never seen so many people flame before.. ill just make a sandwhich every once in a while and every once in a while get her a teddy bear? how is that so wrong? i dunno im gonna stop talking in case they notice me but thanks

[Mesonfielde]

@aithe4ngel no, I think you really missed out on what the problem was here.

[aithe4ngel]

I get the problem but I dont know why people make how much someone earns such a big deal support yourself.. have your own career and stability and then asking for something isn't as big of a deal.. if there's a finacial difference with your partner notice and be senstive to it.. I spend money on my friends when I cook them things which is why when we go out for burgers and I can't buy a burger they share with me. oh well maybe I am a bit oblvious right now and I am ok with it ill grow eventually

[Mesonfielde]

@aithe4ngel it is totally okay to buy other people stuff, but you shouldn't give them shit for it just because you are female and they are male, and that is what the take owner did. People lashed out because of the sexist double standard.

[Monsters]

True love and respect can't be bought i agree with the opinion owner

[lacorine197]

@CavScoutTrooper Agreed, then she insults you by calling you a fuckboi, very mature of her, spoken like a true girl, NOT A WOMAN.

[Mesonfielde]

@lacorine197 I am mostly just surprised that the take owner actually went anonymous on this. I guess she crumbled under the criticism, eh, Fish?

[lacorine197]

yea some people just get worst these days

[cesarine]

Why would a man want to take care of a woman who screams endlessly at the top of her lungs that she is "independent" and able to take care of herself?
Surely she can buy her own jewelery and cars if she's so satisfied in demeaning men who make less money than her and refuse to satisfy her arbitrary materialistic urges.

Men want to feel needed and cared for, there's no point in going for an egotistical "independent" woman who sees herself as a queen when there's tons of more feminine, loyal, and modest girls who are easier to please and more pleasant to be with out there.

[Anonymous]

While the presentation may appear harsh I agree. I am 24 and I just finished my doctorate in law and passed the bar exam. Soon I will be a licensed attorney and I will work as a lawyer. I feel like it's hard as a successful smart woman. I am definitely smart but I am not rude or aggressive. In fact I have a very soft and easygoing nature. But men hear law degree and they get intimidated. It's hard to find someone who I am intellectually compatible with. I don't need a moneybags but I need someone smart. My standards aren't even so high. I just want someone at least college educated, smart, normal person, has a pair of balls but isn't a controlling asshole, and normal looking. It's so hard. I feel like so many guys I meet are just dumb or lack motivation. I can't respect stupidity or immaturity.

[myTake Owner]

Hit the nail on the head there babe.

[ArtDent]

It's not intimidation, it's that most men don't care. And you, being a woman who values ambition as a quality in a significant other with never understand.

The higher up you go, the fewer men who will meet your standards. And you are going to have a bunch of misplaced anger when you realize the men who do meet your standards might not judge you as meeting their, totally different, standards.

As far as lacking motivation? I'm motivated to tear this entire bullshit system down. I understand that those who I labor for benefit more from my labor than I do and I am further aware that those corporate rulers turn around and take the profit they make off my back to buy politicians that will pass laws lifting them up and holding the rest of us down.

I have been around enough to know how easy it is to get by and enjoy life when you aren't trying to fill a hole which has been manufactured inside of you.

[GirlsLie]

Well, you let yourself get used and claim you "have your shit together". People who have their shit together don't get used by men for money at the age of 27.

You're also throwing around the "be a man" bullshit but how can you expect a man to treat you right when you don't treat yourself right.

"Don't you have any respect borrowing money from a woman?" -Well don't you have enough respect as a grown woman to say "no" to something that you don't respect.

I just think if you're going to make a point to others, then you should at least practice it first.

[Kawaiigurl1234]

She gonna need some ice to cool that burn.

[StrangerMorrison]

Telling me that I'll be offended is the best way to catch my attention. I agree with you that the guys you described sound like losers. However, you might also have an unfortunate way of presenting yourself. Physical attractiveness is very subjective. You making good money will hardly be important for a man who can support himself anyway. If anything, it will turn him away from the idea to pay for your stuff because that idea comes from a time when women literally had no money of their own, and thus it has a sexist vibe to it. And I honestly expected someone who works for the Australian government to express themselves a little more classy. Maybe I'm wrong to judge that since I don't know any other people who work for your government. And I don't know if you talk the same way in real life, I can only go by the text I just read. Anyway, your myTake is a nice break from the common fairy tale that women only (or even primarily) care about personality. Comforting lies never helped anyone.

[myTake Owner]

Come to Australia, men there looooooooove a woman supporting them. Why do you think they marry Asian women?

[StrangerMorrison]

I had no idea that Australia could be that much different from Europe. I've never been there, so I'll take your word for it. But I still don't see how this has anything to do with Asian women. Is there an abundance of rich and generous Asian women in Australia?

[LittleSally]

Yeah, people deserve those alike to them - if you work hard to get everything you want and deserve, why shouldn't you have a boyfriend who does the same thing - tries as hard.

Lowering standards is one of the reasons for divorce.

Being satisfied alone - much better than being miserable with another person.