Girls--Stop Griping about Male Standards. We're not asking that much.

[RationalMale]

I hear it all the time, and so do you. Men want perfection, apparently, Victoria's Secret Models. I wouldn't know since I'm a guy, but that's apparently what all of us men want, according to the ladies. We're oh so demanding and girls just don't have time with actual lives to meet our demands.

Ladies. Get real, grow up, and stop griping. Men don't ask for a whole lot. Let's break down what an attractive woman looks like, and how women so easily mess that up through laziness or stuborness.

Here's a few women who have graced magazine covers and been lauded as sex symbols.

Kate Upton. Good face. Long hair. Big breasts. Looks like she doesn't really work out that much, nor starve herself. To a part, she was lucky with genes. In bigger part, she's basically just taken care of herself. Simple reality also is though, with a different hairstyle, and just a few more pounds... she would barely get a second glance at the local Starbucks.

Speaking of which, another sex symbol who aptly demonstrated how easy it is to ruin your looks. Jennifer Lawrence. (Yes, I totally googled her nude pics at Celebgate)

In both pictures, she is clearly on her A-game and ready to be in media view. Yet a simple haircut difference makes her go from a sex symbol to just a pretty/cute girl, nothing remarkable. And that's with her plainly being made up and ready, not strolling down the street to a local store incognito. Both Jennifer Lawrence and Kate Upton are plainly showing the importance of hair--ladies, keep your hair long, and take care of it. It makes a huge difference! Yet how many women decide to main their hairstyle?

Another prime example of how fickle looks are--Emma Watson. Recognized by men almost universally as a beautiful girl, even when she was jailbait. She also demonstrates that you can go from "beautiful girl" to "she's probably a lesbian" in just one haircut.

Weight is important, true. The flip side is--weight isn't that hard, unless you are of the few that actually has a medical condition. Guys aren't demanding victoria's secret bodies, and most guys would be just fine with this sort of body.

No, you all can't have breasts like that, but you can be in at a decent weight like that. (no, she's not perfect, but the vast majority of men don't require perfection.) We all have time for what we want to do--and if you want to be attractive to men, you can cough up $15 a month and hit the gym a few times a week. Combine that with eating decent and not stuffing your face, and fitness is not elusive, as all we gym going men know.

In short, ladies, stop griping about "shallowness" and better yourself if you want more, and higher quality, male attention. It will take some effort, but overall it's not that hard to polish yourself up and shine!

[Noxifer626]

Of course not. We just want them to be thin but not "too thin", to be sexually adventurous but not "too sexually adventurous", to have lots of curves without being fat or having "too much curves", to have long hair but not "too long", to be white but not "pale", to be fit but not muscular, to put make up on and look natural.
That's not impossible and irrational, now is it?
//sarcasm.

[rjroy3]

"Fit" for her bodytype, not "thin".
"Sexually open" to him and not other men, "aka not a slut".
"Curves" not fat rolls and back tits.
Race specificity is not a golden standard.
And your muscular comment applies to the first statement. "Fit" for her bodytype. Not slender. So to summarize:
1. Give a damn about your health as far as exercise and diet so that you are "fit" for your build. Because women come in different shapes and sizes.
2. Have a similar level of sexuality as the man.
3. Having tits and having an ass preferably, how much differs from guy to guy.

One of these are completely in women's control. The other two are based on the preference of the guy. I get where you're coming from, but you're just pandering to the women on this post. The point to this article was to point out what guys are attracted to and that the "standard" that women have been fed elsewhere are lies. That's what he was getting at when he spoke about Victorias secret models.

[Noxifer626]

@rjroy3 I flip the bird to you sir.

[rjroy3]

*soft clap for you*
You were almost insightful for your age.

[Noxifer626]

@rjroy3 I'm not in the mood to argue with womanizers today.

[rjroy3]

1. Not a womanizer. You don't even know me.
2. No one's arguing. You just immediately jumped to insulting me. So I thought I'd respond in kind.

But it's whatever man. I don't care either way. Later later.

[lumos]

Sure. Just have big boobs, a naturally beautiful face, a nice body and thick, long hair. That's not "much" at all. COUGH.
If you weren't "asking that much" you wouldn't shun a girl immediately when she sports a shorter hairstyle for a while. You're contradicting yourself.

[RationalMale]

Emma Watson doesn't have big boobs... :p

[lumos]

Oh so one of the 4 girls you posted doesn't have big boobs... congrats? Majority still do so it's obvious that it's important to at least have average to big boobies :)

[RationalMale]

Okay okay, if I could edit I would go back and find a few girls who looked like my yoga instructor. Girl was cute, had long hair, and was slim/toned. Small boobs, but she was a 10/10 anyways. :p Happy?

[Shorty1991]

But your still stereotyping her as " probably a lesbian" because she went from having long locks to a pixie cut. Just because women have short hair foes not mean they are lesbians. A lot of women get fed up of having long hair and get it cut short because its more manageable and easier to style. So a guy has long hair, does that make him gay?

[Shorty1991]

*does

[RationalMale]

@Shorty1991 Oh yes, there are gay male hair styles. It's also in the face--you can tell.

And the stereotype of women with that short haircut being lesbians is there for a good reason haha

[lumos]

Still not really the point I'm trying to make. Like I said, if you weren't "asking for much" you wouldn't be completely turned off by a girl just because she decides to cut her hair short. It shows how important you think hair is. Also, all the girls you posted pics of are naturally beautiful, considered above average in looks by most people. Also adds to the high standard. Not to mention how a lot of girls struggle to have thick/long hair, and struggle with being underweight and overweight. This take kind of really just proves how you're asking for quite a lot.

[lumos]

I didn't know cutting your hair short meant you also have to hand in your straight card to get a brand new and shiny lesbian card.

[Shorty1991]

Lmfao. I've had my hair cut short before and been labled a lesbian. . . I've never been a lesbian. There are plenty of short haired women married to men or in relationships with men. Its also the same for men with long hair, they have girl friends. You are just picking features and characteristics that you like in women. Its basically saying ladies stop gripping about your imperfections and men's idealism. But this is what we like. So contradictive. Its backfired on you dude.

[lumos]

The men commenting on this post also prove my point lmao, by calling these girls disgusting and ugly.

[Shorty1991]

I know, I could say exactly what I think of them but my comment will more than likely get deleted for being to antagonistic. Its happened once before. Lol

[skykidx1]

YOu women are just sad sad sad. My ex had a flat ass, normal size cheast not small or to big. long hair , walked like a disney princess but i loved her for her and at least tried to be cute for me. All it takes to get a guy eye is1. be in heathy shape.2. dresss your best 3. long hair but if u gonna have short hair style it very will. Sorry lady i do belive short hair qn be very very sexy but long hair better. 4. THR BIGGER ONE DONT BE A BITFH, DONT HAVE A BITCH FACE ON AND FUCKING SMILE.

[lumos]

@skykidx1 can you chill?

[skykidx1]

I am chill just telling the truth. Fucking smile

[Anonymous]

Dont get me wrong, I totally get that you had good intentions. However, I dont quite think your "yes its a LITTLE bit of genetics but its mostly you growing out your hair plus working out a LITTLE to get a good body". This is plainly false all of the woman in your pictures are celebrities it is part of their job to look nice they all have or had personal trainers, a stylist etc to look the way they look its not like they look like that cause they have long hair and work out some.
The message seems to be if you dont meet guys standards its not cause guys have high standards its cause you dont "take care" of yourself. However, what about woman who choose to study and read instead of hitting the gym? Im not talking morbidly obese but maybe a little chubby. Are they "not taking care of themselves" because they dont hit the gym?
As to the boob part, i notice that in your comment about your yoga instructor and emma watson you tried to make it seem like you dont have to be genetically blessed in the boob area to meet "giys stamdards." you just need to have OTHER "attractive" qualities to "make up for it." This isn't not shallow as you make it seem to be.
long story short, I see that you had good intentions but you didn't quite succeed. Maybe next time use the average everyday woman as examples instead of celebrities (and no, jennifer lawrence is not the most "average" lookimg and kate upton isn't either (even minus the boobs she is the face of bobby brown, so clearly she has an above average attractive face).
Also, I just wanted to add that yes some woman can look good with working out and growing hair out. But there is still that population who can't. Sure theycan have long hair and a fit body but what if their faces are not so attractive? If they are flat chested (there are plenty of fitness chicks who are flat chested) and have a not so attractive face?
Again, you had good intentions but I think failed to take certain factors into account. This is just my personal opinion :)

[AEther]

hmm.. i don't think you've picked very good examples and seem to have missed your own point a little..
emma watson is a very pretty girl and would be with any haircut (within reason, lumps of dog poops and such would indeed be a turnoff) so i'm not quite sure what you're trying to say there.
it might have made sense to pick public figures that aren't famous specifically for being part of the world glamour and good looks.

looking "perfect" is the most important thing when it comes to looking at women on the internet, or ogling them across the bar. but when it comes to who you're going to spend time with and grow to care about it's ultimately character that plays the biggest roll.
this is of course not to say that looks don't matter, cause they always do. i am more likely to impulsively want to get to know and be liked by very pretty girl, and first impressions are important, but not unmoving.
i still remember the first time a saw the only girl i've ever truly loved, it was the first day of collage were all at our seats lookin' around half listening to the teachers induction and she came in late, and when i first saw her.. i thought she looked like a total arse.. aesthetically not at all my type and she just looked really stroppy, i was much later to find out she had good reason to be. so i wasn't really attracted to her at all, infact there was another girl in the class that was totally my type, but as time went on and we got to know each other, she became the most beautiful person in the world, and that's not a romantic exaggeration, i mean there was literally no one i found more attractive. so i guess what i'm saying is that keeping care of your apperance and being the best of yourself is important, but when it comes down to it, it's companionship that's important.. unless you just are a totally shallow douche.. well, i've not sleapt for a couple of days so i'm a little delirious right now and have no idea what i've said or if it makes any sense.. meh.. post

[nalaa]

So what you're saying is that men don't care what women look like as long as we're thin, have long hair and big boobs. Surprised you left out the big butt trend.

As for weight, women's bodies aren't like men's. We have more fat and it's a lot harder for us to lose. Even thin women look kinda soft

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And that used to be ok, but to look as tight and toned as Kate Upton does actually require a lot of work for women
www.bluloftblog.com/.../kate-upton-7.jpg

That aside I agree with what you're saying is not that high of an expectation, I just don't think it's true. Anymore.
There's a lot of research that shows seeing prefect bodies everyday in the media, even knowing it's fake, men and women hold women's bodies to higher standards. I think there's a good sized group of men that believe all women can should look like some instagram model with a massive butt, chest and tiny waist.
I mean even in the short time in which you have posted this men commented saying they find this or that celebrity disgusting, when they're clearly above average.

[statgirl123]

That's not what Kate Upton looks like now. She actually hasn't looked like that in a LONG time.

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Those women you posted before are way thinner than Kate. I would say there's a bigger problem with the media trying to delude us with what certain celebrities look like rather than standards and stuff.

[nalaa]

@statgirl123 well I think that IS what she looks like in the picture he choose. She might have gained weight since but I think in the picture he linked she looks very toned and thin. But then of course his picture is heavily photoshopped so who knows.

And I totally agree there's an issue with the media deluding what most celebreites look like. But you know that's kinda their job. For example candice swanepol for VS and in real life

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That just underlines my point that most men are used to photoshopped perfections and have no idea what real look like, which shifts their perception of the attractiveness of real women. Again there's research on it. Good news is, men know those images are fake. Bad news is, it doesn't matter, it still sets the standard for what they expect women to look like

[statgirl123]

I think Candice looks way better in real life than in the photoshopped picture. I also prefer thinner figures. Anyways I don't pay attention to the media, it's a joke. Women should find their own idea of beauty and aspire to that instead of what the media tells us.

[GingerBear]

Women as a whole don't bitch about men having standards. These are all pretty reasonable; be in shape, take care of yourself, etc etc. Good advice, that's what most people are attracted to. But really, this isn't what women bitch about. What a select few do gripe about is a perceived notion that men only want Victorias Secret models, or giant F cup boobs with a 24 inch waist (almost never naturally gonna happen). Most sensible people know that most men don't want that. Unfortunately, the loudest people in the world are rarely sensible.

However, if this is supposed to represent the whole of men's standards for women, then those standards ARE incredibly shallow. Physical appearance is important, but if that's the only thing you look for, then you ARE shallow.

[RationalMale]

It's quite simple, really. Looks create attraction and make us interested, and personality either makes us like you, or has us mulling over errands and such 10 minutes into the date.

[GingerBear]

What's your point? Im obviously aware of this, as I said that physical attraction is important, but if one considers it the ONLY thing of importance, then that person is definitely shallow.

[RationalMale]

My point is duh, only idiots solely consider physical attraction.

[GingerBear]

And yet your take was about men's standards for women, and was entirely about physical characteristics. You yourself made it sound as if physical appearance is the only thing that matters.

[heavensgift2girls]

I don't see how he is shallow for only talking about physical standards. The point he was trying to make was in regards to that very vocal minority that think we have unreasonable physical standards. He never implied men don't have any other standards regarding her personality. You are just trying to pick apart his wording as oppose to seeing what his mytake was obviously about. It was never intended for all the different types of standards that are out there, just the ones that women commonly complain about.

[GingerBear]

@heavensgift2girls Did you read my opinion, or did you just skim it? If you'd actually read it and comprehended it, you'd know that I'd said that IF it represented the whole of men's standards, then it was shallow. I don't know the intentions of the writer when I am reading something. All I know is what is written, and that's all I can base my opinion off. The take was about physical appearances. I said that if the only standard you have is based on physical appearance, then that is shallow. Which is correct.
The rest of my opinion was actually agreeing with most of the take, with the exception of most women bitching about it.

[heavensgift2girls]

I did read it. The way it reads is a common way people deliver insults so they can still claim they didn't insult them if called out on it. Maybe that isn't how you meant it, but that is how it sounds.

[GingerBear]

@heavensgift2girls The only way that would read as insulting would be if the reader was actively looking for insults in it, or if the reader fell into the category of people that I described as shallow. If that's what you got from it, that's a problem with your comprehension, or you're part of that group of people. I don't know which, and frankly I don't care.
If I wanted to insult someone, I'd be a hell of a lot blunter than that.

[Ginnyweasley97]

Sure just have big boobs not too big because they will sag eventually
Sexually experienced but not a slut
Innocent but not a prude
Dress modestly but not like a nun
Dress sexy but not too sexy
Thick hair but not like Mia Thermopolis before she found out she was royalty
Smart, intelligent person but not too s art don't want to surpass your boyfriend.

We can all tell blond with big tits is your type but honestly I think this girl looks better than most guys with short hair.
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And Jared Padalecki is pulling off long hair. My how the tables have turned.
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[Rawrzz]

I tried to pull off the Padalecki hair. It's about the same color. Didn't work, at all. -.-;; Damn his Godlike jawline. DAMN--IT!

[skykidx1]

The girl cute but her hair not crazy short

[Ginnyweasley97]

@skykidx1 on one side, yes. On the other side it's longer. Because she has a cropped hair cut.

[RationalMale]

I love that when girls post pics of short hair lasses... they always pic girls that are stunning models. Because it takes a model to look attractive with short hair.

[Ginnyweasley97]

Well that's your opinion. You have voiced it to the wonderful world of the internet as you can see no one cares do you want a medal?

[Ginnyweasley97]

And it doesn't matter if she is a model or not. She is pulling it off.

[RationalMale]

It matters, because it proves the point. All the attractive, short haired women you post are going to be models. Proving the point, that it takes a gorgeous girl to look attractive with short hair.

And so far... over 44 men and women have cared enough about my opinion to comment. XD

[Ginnyweasley97]

Aww you think you're popular that argument reminds me of bitchy, preppy middle schools girls.

[BuchitaBuchys]

So all we have to do is have big boobs, be thin, be blonde, long hair, light skin to be beautiful?

*phew!
And here I thought it was hard!

Fellow ladies who have small breasts, aren't thin, have short hair, have straight/wavy hair, and aren't light skin, well, let's get to it! Let's go get boob jobs, lose weight, grow our hair, perm it straight, bleach our skin because men don't ask for much!
-___-

[RationalMale]

Do you need some aloe vera for that butthurt?

[BuchitaBuchys]

You're the pissy one because the men and women don't agree with you lol

[Splintercell]

This is a catch 22, not all ladies are the same. Yes keeping yourself in shape in good and healthy for your body and appearance to attract a man. But even with a marvelous looking body, you could have a bad character and morals. You will attract the attention you want from guys, you may not attract the right type of men you are looking for. You present eye candy for a one night stand, or present proper beauty with character, integrity for a long lasting relationship. There is a difference.
Most women on these covers of magazines I wouldn't dare because most pictures are edited to the point of being fake and phony. I'm around women with character, integrity, personality and inter beauty.

[UtopiasofMars]

The point you are making is going against you. You are downgrading woman. Personally I find woman with short hair attractive, and woman with small breasts I find that they are more humble. And weight does not matter. Look at JenJennifer Lawrence with the first pic to the left she looks like a pornstar and the other she looks like a humble cute girl. Woman are beautiful not just by beauty but by personality.

[Steelcore1085]

I liked your MyTake. Apparently all the bitches who commented somehow made this something that turns them into victims, haha. Losers.

But I also like personality not just looks. You could be the hottest girl on the block but no decent guy would like you because of your shitty personality. I honestly despise Emma Watson and Jennifer Lawrence. Why? Because Lawrence is a whiny bitch who is the highest paid actress in Hollywood, but says that because male actors who have been around longer than she has are being paid more, that she's a victim and that she's being discriminated against. Watson is a bitchy Feminist who thinks women are too stupid to fix their own problems and expects men to help women all the time, and supports an ideology that's misandric. Those are automatic turnoffs.

So yeah, I love a girl who I'm physically attracted to, but also a girl who has a personality.

[cyndyrene]

Bitches? How sweet.

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry... but this discussion is beyond shallow to me. First of all, I don't hear women complaining about men in this fashion. But you sound young from what I can tell from your writing. So maybe women in your generation complain? There's more to a woman than meets the eye. With maturity you'll learn this fact.

[NatashaJ]

The only time I would get mad at a man's standard if it like basically typical sterotype of woman and they not that attractive themselves. Like how are you going to be picky if you not a 10 yourself? that's annoying with both genders.

[Rawrzz]

The difference is exactly how you measure value. It is annoying. Everyone has a different idea one what their worth is.

[NatashaJ]

@Rawrzz Exactly you can have standards but don't be a douche to someone who don't fit into your standards.

[RationalMale]

Agree on that. You can't demand a standard from people you don't meet yourself. Like if you're a chubster and you only want to date toned women who workout a lot... hypocrisy.

[YourFutureEx]

How would I know my score out of 10?

[NatashaJ]

@YourFutureEx if you have girls throw themselves at you even men throw themselves at you.

[YourFutureEx]

So, you mean if I see more girls getting attracted to me, THEN I can demand and have greater standards, but if I'm single for most of the time, I have no right to judge the appearance of the ladies?

[NatashaJ]

@YourFutureEx Omg shut up you can judge all you want don't be a asshole about it. Like if a girl likes you don't tear her down and treat her like shit over her looks. Jesus

[YourFutureEx]

I know what to do. Just trying you to tell you that "just because a person is not that attractive, it doesn't mean he/she cannot expect his/her partner to be attractive or have big standards".
Just because I'm a 6, it doesn't mean I cannot demand a 9 and a girl who's 9 for me, maybe a 7 for you.

So, don't get mad at all this. Cheers!

[NatashaJ]

@YourFutureEx Thought you were looking for a fight but ok, but still you still look like a asscake while doing that.

[YourFutureEx]

No, why would I? :/ I'm just a little bit blunt, not an-ass kisser.

Well that is okay. Everyone has opinions and are entitled to it. Good for you :) have a nice day.

[NatashaJ]

@YourFutureEx You too!

[Anonymous]

You forgot to add the hipocrasy of women who insist a male have a laundry list of qualities to meet which are much worse than the male expecting a female to simply put a little effort into her looks.
Women set the bar for men at such a ridiculous high that they will shut down 99% of men who try to talk to them just for the simple act of trying to talk to them. Unless he fits her preconceived mold before hand (Or has obvious money, fame, or power), he is pretty much given zero chance to even speak.

[RationalMale]

Actually it's about 80% of men that women rate as below average

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[Opinion Owner]

haha ok thanks. So 20% of men manage to make it through the strict guidelines.

[LittleSally]

Haha Yeah... your point is the opposite of what you wanted to make it. Irony at it's lamest.

[rjroy3]

He was pretty clear. In response to the idea that "men want perfection" he said that's false. All you really need to fall under men's standards for being attractive is: 1. try to be in relatively good shape. 2. Long hair is preferred.

Then gave 2 examples of why it's true. One being a slightly out of shape selena gomez. That's far from perfection, but many guys would be happy to be with.

[rjroy3]

He just added the fact that it requires some effort on the girls part to accomplish this... which is true for anyone getting in shape lol

[aliceinwonderland69]

@rjroy3 Selena Gomez is hardly out of shape. Again proving men's unrealistic standards.

[rjroy3]

@aliceinwonderland69

Lol specifically said a "slightly" out of shape selena. Ie, carrying a little extra bodyfat than normal over looking at her best. Most people feel like they're not in as good a shape they would like to be. For example, getting winded walking up a staircase. Get to the point where that doesn't tire you out and that's pretty good shape. I don't consider that an exceptionally high standard.

[rjroy3]

@aliceinwonderland69 but hey, let's not flood her notifications. Respond on my comment if you want to keep talking

[Jxpxtxr]

I'm so sorry but as a bisexual girl I actually think the "hair examples" you've brought look way better with the short hair than with the long one. It just draws so much more attention to their pretty faces in my opinion, I prefer short haired women all the way👌🏻

[Jxpxtxr]

Other than that is was a good take 👍

[RationalMale]

No offense intended, but you kind of help prove the point.

[Jxpxtxr]

But as a bisexual my opinion should count as well.

[RationalMale]

Your opinion does count. And as rude as it might be to say, it reinforces the cliche that girls with short hair look like bisexuals or lesbians--you're bisexual and saying women look better with short hair.

It's like if some girl was writing about what women find attractive in men, and a bi guy came along "I think dudes with the xyz style are hot!"

That... and this is about male standards, so it's from straight men to women who want to date men.

[RationalMale]

You see my point? It's like if a girl said "Don't wear turtlenecks, men, it looks totally gay." And then a gay or bi guy said "Nah, guys in turtlenecks look hot!"

[Jxpxtxr]

B-but guys in turtlenecks DO look hot!

[RationalMale]

... I actually used to love turtlenecks when I was 13, 15. Kept my neck warm lmao XD

[Jxpxtxr]

It's incredibly fashionable at the moment too. Kinda hipster tho..

[RationalMale]

I'm kinda stopped wearing them, as of 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoO_PXY5QV8

[Anonymous]

How do you like this take? Very nicely written!

I agree. by the way, the two women on the left on the Victoria Secret's picture are so hot. They also happen to be very down to earth and friendly. Now those are sexy women.

Hadn't heard of the 2nd. Yes I agree with your point. I guess if she's nice, she's something, otherwise she's not that special in my opinion.

Emma, is a gem. I agree, long hair suits her - it's very hot. Tbh, I'm not sure Hermione was meant to be that hot, but damn girl.

Interesting point on JL as well.

Yes nice points. It's like when women say they want a man who is strong etc. So who's judging whom eh?

[statgirl123]

I see where you are coming from. Actually it's my goal to be thinner than those girls anyways and I already look like that. My problem with 99% of guys being picky about women is that they are out of shape themselves and just hypocritical. Nothing wrong with wanting a model girlfriend if you look like a model yourself though.

[Elena_the_Star]

This is laughable. Men do not want less than a Barbie Doll, and its a fact that men care more about looks as they are visual and its a never ending game. The last line is pathetic, I can say the same to all you guys, grow a 6 pack and then we'll talk. lets see how many men actually have a nice bod compared to women? They are not even that good looking as women.

[RationalMale]

I would comment that if men don't want less than a barbie doll, 90% of men would be single... and that it's far easier to be at a healthy weight than it is to get to 7% body fat and build muscle... but I'm sure a 16 year old already knows that lmao

[Elena_the_Star]

They settle, thats the thing because they themselves are ugly.
How about stop cribing and telling women what to expect?
ya, as if age matters. I could get 60 year olds who would agree so there you go

[Nachtmeerde]

Yeaaaahhhh no. If I must give up having short hair permanently, then I'd rather be single forever, thanks. No fleeting chance at sex and/or love is worth never being able to fully be myself.

[Same to you too, guys and gals. Don't give up your fashion sense and hairstyle for good if they're not just a fleeting fancy. The right guy/gal won't give you up over such trivialities.]

[RationalMale]

See, this is what I'm talking about. Would not even change a hairstyle to make yourself immensely more attractive. This is the sort of selfish, narcissistic behavior you want to avoid, lads.

[Nachtmeerde]

Dude, don't judge me before you know me. I had to fight disapproval from my family and social pressure so I could look the way I wanted to. Besides, I used to have longer hair -back when I was lacking in self-esteem and desperate for people to like me. Not only did that NOT work, my lack of self-respect made me deeply unhappy.

[RationalMale]

There might be good reason, depending on how you look lol

[Nachtmeerde]

Ok, fair enough, maybe I'm ugly to some people. But, again, I've fought too hard to like and accept myself. Sorry, but I'm never going back to being utterly dependent on the whims of another person again. If that means being single for life, so be it. I'm never going to be afraid to eat or look in a mirror again.

[Joc4Position]

Most of these girls you posted are disgusting. In fact the hottest girl you posted on here is Gina Corono. Emma is hot. The rest aren't attractive at all.

[RationalMale]

If you think Jennifer Lawrence, Kate Upton, and Selena Gomez are disgusting, I would love to see pics of the women you date.

[Joc4Position]

Jennifer is ehh. She's okay. Kate is ugly. She looks like a pig. Selena looks like a child in the face. I can't figure out if she's an adult or still plays with little dolls.

[rjroy3]

Can someone please order this man his prescription bifocals! ?

[Joc4Position]

@rjroy3 And you ugly too lol.

[rjroy3]

Lolol

[Grace_Rdz]

It's a good thing I don't even give a shit about what guys "ask for" anymore xD

[RationalMale]

There's two types of women. Those who don't give a shit about what guys want, and those in loving relationships. :D