Men, This is Why We Don't Want to Date You

[Anonymous]

This article is purely based on my personal experience/opinion and those of close female friends of mine. It is not intended to offend anyone.

You Won't Pay For The Girl On The First Date!

If you can't invest on the first date, then don't bother investing in the relationship. The first meeting sets the tone, and unless the girl insists on splitting the tab... you should insist on paying.

You Call Me "Baby, Honey, Sweetie" & You Don't Even Know My Last Name!

If I just met you, and within the first few days, you're calling me pet names, I am going to assume you're a player. Can't remember my name? You're right "sweetie" suits me just fine... NOT.

You Take Forever to Respond to Calls/ Messages or Respond With 1 Word Answers!

I understand everyone gets busy, but if you message me back with 1 word, I am going to assume you're not interested and just move on. If you don't call me back for a week, don't bother calling.

You Are Too Pushy For Sex!

We just met, and you're inviting me over for "Netflix and Chill", or maybe you just really wanna show me those new sheets you got for your bed?

You Are Too Clingy/Not Clingy Enough!

We just had a first date and you've messaged me 16 times, called me 22 times, and planned the next 504 dates, and it's not even the next morning... AWW... or you just disappeared into think air. POOF.

[Reallio]

1. HAHAHAHAH No. Go dutch, or hell, you pay the damn bill. Why don't YOU invest in the relationship? Self entitled ass...

2. True but did you ever take the time to tell him? If so do YOU even know HIS name? Plus people forget names all the time. I'll have someone tell me their name 2 times in one sitting then completely forget the next day. Sad I know but that shouldn't come off as rude, especially if you have a generic ass name (like Amy, Ebony, Emma or Jasmine). Plus you're probably not even interesting enough to remember, swerve bitch xD (I'm just pulling your chain)

3. Yeah, maybe they are busy and don't have enough time to type a full sentence. Sorry their 1 worded response wasn't what you wanted princess, but when you're just dating, they don't revolve around you yet. People have lives outside of relationships. (Not the case for me though xD hahaha I'm a loser.)

4. Nowadays I see more and more promiscuous women who're pushy. People like sex. And sometimes when people are single, all they require at that moment is sex. Don't complain about it. Take it as a compliment and move on.

5. Nice overgeneralization, have enough standards? Others are eager for relationships, therefore clinginess happens (God knows I'm clingy to my guy xD) And then others aren't as eager/ready for a relationship so they take it slower than normal, it's to be expected. Especially now since people are getting screwed over romantically left and right.

You need to chill xD

[Pedro_N]

A well deserved bowing for this lady.

[Reallio]

@Pedro_N Many thanks ^_^

[Pedro_N]

And it applies for both sides...

[Reallio]

@Pedro_N I see

[ScottSummers]

you are amazing, iam glad there are still awesome girls like you XD

[Reallio]

@ScottSummers Thank you ^_^

[ProbablyTooMature]

For number two, a guy shouldn't presume familiarity enough with a woman to call her by a nickname, especially before you even know her full name, I believe is the point. And it's a point I personally agree with.

[Reallio]

@ProbablyTooMature I mean when I have forgotten a person's name who is nice I will often call them friend, or buddy or something. However I do understand where you're coming from.

[MCheetah]

@Reallio
This lady wins Best Woman award.

[BubbleBoy69]

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And the reason no man should take women out on dates unless she is your girlfriend is because somehow women see nothing wrong with sleeping with other guys and/or flaking on you while you date them. I mean come on guys you drop 150 on a girl for the first date and then once she gets her fill she goes no contact on you.

I'm going to give you a good reason how you guys could get cucked so easily.
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This woman from Toronto used men for free meals. She exclaimed she already new within 5 minutes whether she was going to sleep with them or not and strung many guys along to carry her to fancy restaurants so she could eat food that she otherwise couldn't afford because she was a broke actress.

For that same girl your wining and dining and dinning there was another guy she gave it up to night one who just had to talk to her a few words because she felt really "comfortable" with him.

[BubbleBoy69]

*Also that same girl your wining and dining there was another guy she gave it up to night one who just had to talk to her a few words because she felt really "comfortable" with him.

[10dsw]

Well said... I really wish more guys understood the realities of the dating world in 2016.

Most guys are still living in the "I am going to pay for the date because I am a gentleman" while their dates are already arranging hook up plans with other guys =P

[ForeverAloneBrah]

Typical white woman.

[Dipsy]

Why in the first place would you take out a woman to a fancy 150€/$ restaurant, while you dont even know her?
Why not do a cheap coffee date or something in the beginning, to test out the waters?

[NanaXXXX]

This. ^^^^^^^

[Oram52]

Hey where can I read more about this woman who strung guys along.

[BubbleBoy69]

@Oram52 "Erin Wotherspoon, a blogger who's gone viral for admitting she dates for dinners, poses for a portrait at The Rude Boy restaurant in Toronto"

[10dsw]

It makes me sad knowing that most guys are completely oblivious to the fact that many women string guys along just for free food, free drinks, someone to hang out with because they're bored, etc. Around here it's common knowledge =P

[NanaXXXX]

@10dsw Some men do the exact same. . .

[10dsw]

@NanaXXXX What? Go on dating sites, get 100 messages a day from 100 girls, pick one girl at random, and then get the girl to pay for all their food?

Wishful thinking.

[NanaXXXX]

@10dsw string people along for their personal advantage without concern about the other

[CancerianMan81]

@NanaXXXX a women doesn't have a right to do that and I don't give a shit how special she think she is

[CancerianMan81]

she doesn't deserve nothing in my opinion if she wants something then she can get up off her ass and get it on her own there ain't no free rides in this world and if she doesn't get it herself then I guess she ain't getting nothing

[NanaXXXX]

@CancerianMan81 I agree. Just saying it was a people problem.

[CancerianMan81]

@NanaXXXX I understand cause I'm getting tired of the stagnant attitude also

[CancerianMan81]

I guess we're in this together

[666threesixes666]

so be that guy she wants on night one?

[feminismisnarcissism]

@10dsw yep-i prefer being the "other guy" let some other asshole pay for her dinner... now once she's mine-you bet, breakfast in bed, I'll go pretty far in my generosity, but not til she proves herself worthy of that position... til then, I'll give them as many orgasms as they can handle, and pay for the condoms... that's about it.

[feminismisnarcissism]

@Dipsy true-i WOULD pay for coffee lol

[feminismisnarcissism]

@NanaXXXX don't get silly now-obviously you've been a victim of this, that doesn't mean it's typical so no it's not a "people problem" til it's about 50/50 and don't insult all of us including your own intelligence to suggest this is just as common with guys as girls. it's not, it's likely 20 to 1 if that... Don't get me wrong-since you bring it up, you're probably a nice girl, the type I'd date as you don't sound like a user-but memo to you: MOST GIRLS ARE. And meanwhile a small sliver of guys are-the "Players". The power dynamic is not equal.

Case in point: Look at the article we're chatting about-pretend the genders were reversed in the title and the article itself-and ask yourself, "would I EVER see this?" NO, you wouldn't but it's a normal type of article from women to men... the reverse? hardly. case closed

[19magic]

@feminismisnarcissism true, I never actually knew this before. I heard of girls having five dates a week for a month and then picking one they liked the most, as if they're the host of a game show. And I don't get the whole first date thing just pay for your own meals. I mean I can't afford two meals why would I expect otherwise.

As for texting me I don't care for a time limit but if there's no reply after the second or third text. Just stop texting I might be doing something or just simply find you interesting enough to talk to. But the sex thing has happened way too often, gave our my number and half a hour 'do you want to come round mine?'

[feminismisnarcissism]

@19magic i hear you and love your attitude about the meals. I play poor most of the time to weed out gold diggers yet have very good assets considering my age and a nasty divorce lol. So I avoid those women up front to avoid wasting my time and money. My biggest turn on right now (in general) might be a girl who simply gives BACK in any way, most tend to try to exploit-but I do have a bit of a codependent streak I'm still trying to shake, they can smell it and I'm a magnet for such women.

And I agree on texting.. most girls don't do that crap (overtext) but sometimes you get one that just can't take a hint-texts you huge blocks , several of them, then you reply 2-5 words, get 10 more texts as you're trying to let it fizzle off (usually AFTER a breakup no less). But such women give men a taste of what women put up with on a normal basis I think and I question if the pros of being a woman in the game outweigh such cons lol

[CancerianMan81]

@feminismisnarcissism awesome song

[CancerianMan81]

aww it didn't post

[CancerianMan81]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLRZFLKEXS4 awesome song

[lacorine197]

this speaks volumes.

[CancerianMan81]

@lacorine197 you mean the song

[lacorine197]

@CancerianMan81 no lol I mean it speaks soo much truth.

[CancerianMan81]

@lacorine197 see I capture what's going on in that moment that i get lost in the moment

[CancerianMan81]

there's times I don't even know I'm doing it

[CancerianMan81]

but you ain't lying when you say it does speak volumes

[lacorine197]

@CancerianMan81 yea thats true lool

[CancerianMan81]

@lacorine197 found that song on the show supernatural

[19magic]

@feminismisnarcissism I hate how bad the divorces are like a female gets a lot of shit and the man's left high and dry. I seen it happen to my grandad who lost his bungalow and the only thing he kept was the butchers business and his Mercedes. She didn't even have young kids since they were like 25 or something.

I must be in the minority then, since I don't know personally of anyone who would exploit their partner like that. I mean we joke around and I have a friend or two, who's likes buying rounds whenever they get tipsy/drunk. But nothing like that on dates, I know one of my friends for their date night on valentines, decided that between them, one pays for dinner and the other pays for the hotel.

[feminismisnarcissism]

@19magic music to my ears... but people change when it comes time to divorce, that's all i know lol

[Mrwoo99]

All women are prostitutes, there's always some form of currency or exchange to be made. It's cheaper and worth while to just buy a high end escort who is hot, fucks like a porn star and guranteed sex.

[19magic]

@Mrwoo99 wow, you've got the wrong end of the stick too many times then.

[Mrwoo99]

@19magic I haven't it's just what me, my friends and people I know have experienced. The true nature of female hypergamy is that the women chooses the highest bidder out of all the pool of men that's available to her in terms of appearance, finance and status.

[Mrwoo99]

@19magic women are too busy whoring about with alpha bad boys, oh sorry! I meant to say being sexually libertated which is the clean word women like to call it when whoring around. instead of looking for a good caring nice guy for relationships.

Don't come looking for a nice guy for relationship when you hit the wall on the wrong side of 30 when you can't attract anyone especially alpha males because us good guys don't want scraps

[19magic]

@Mrwoo99 just because some do it or all the girls you have met do it, doesn't mean all girls in the whole world does this okay. I've met loads of guys where we've been chatting for ten minutes and the next thing is 'do you want to come round mine', but I know not every guy is like that.

[19magic]

@Mrwoo99 As for that reply I've only had sex once and from that experience I know that unless I care for the guy, the actual act is shit

[HeresJames1]

Just here to say I'm an actual cuckold (it's fun btw), and this is bullshit for the most part lol.

[19magic]

@Mrwoo99 yeah some do but not all of them, I did a national test and got in the top 10% of all 16-18 year olds. I never used my body to achieve that.

[Bizzaro_Elmo]

I am making that first pic... my background pic, now.

[lacorine197]

@Mrwoo99 lmfao "Sexually liberated" you've just earned a fan! I like the way you think man!

[lacorine197]

true!!

[Mrwoo99]

@lacorine197 women hate me on GAG becuase I reveal their true nature and inner BS to blue pill men which makes women fearful of losing control they have over white knights, simps and mangina's. If women dont get their shit together soon women will be nothing but sex toys to all men becuase us men won't be giving commitment to women. Am not going to invest my time in to a woman who has rode the cock carousel throughout her youth. An they say men are more dirty than women, I think people need a reality check. Feminism is turing women in to whores, am not giving commitment or relationships with a whore, have you guys lost your minds lol

[CancerianMan81]

@Mrwoo99 us men can be the one's that show that we care for the women but the fact of the matter is they don't want to show that they care for us men

[CancerianMan81]

because the women are always telling us men that we're to entitled

[CancerianMan81]

meaning that us men shouldn't be entitled to any of the women cause the women are not our's to claim every woman that I've come across has told me that

[Mrwoo99]

@CancerianMan81 it's feminist teaching that's ruined women altogether. Back in patriarchy if it still existed today I would of considered women as relationship and marriage material but right now in todays age women have nothing to offer me but sex... what use have they got that they can bring. Not to mention the risks a man has when entering a relationship or marriage where he can lose half his resources, pay alimony or child support if the guy has kids. The divorce rate is sky high above 50% with 97% intiated by women becuase women are cheating more than ever or are unloyal becuase of women being this so called sexual liberation crap where feminism is encouraging women to be whores.
Am going abroad to meet women from traditional countries or backgrounds for relationships. You men are mad if your going to invest in to western women for commited relationships. You got to understand that a women doesn't have to claim to be a feminist, the whole of society is indoctrinated by feminism.

[CancerianMan81]

you can love them yourself but they won't you love them because they don't love themselves

[CancerianMan81]

Let*

[CancerianMan81]

I understand that man i do what can you do you can't change their mind I've tried all they tell me is you ain't going to to change me cause I'm going to do what i wanna do

[CancerianMan81]

women's attitude ain't helping but they get on this kick that we're the one's with the attitude

[CancerianMan81]

us men ain't in a moral high ground with women anymore that's how women look at us men anymore cause we've been in position for to long and now they want to take everything

[CancerianMan81]

it ain't men and women that's the problem it's the government that has always been the problem there's been to many presidents that haven't given the people what they want

[Mrwoo99]

@CancerianMan81 Well I have always said to people and friends that if the laws change no matter our society and cultures circumstances, I would reconsider women for relationships and commitment. Although if I run the risk of losing half my resources or money, paying alimony and child support... am not going to do it. Unless I am free and secure from all those regulations you won't see me providing for any woman becuase its a bad investment for any man.

You guys go ahead and invest your hard earnings on these women and when they take you to cleaners to upgrade for a better man, you'll have no value left becuase you be on skid row paying all your life to your ex with no home or money.

The single guys with the high SMV will be attracting the women. You get tied down to these women and your basically giving her the keys to the vault which leaves her room to fuck us over. This is not about good women or bad women... this is the government law.

[CancerianMan81]

@Mrwoo99 government doesn't have a right to dictate what people want in their lives the only person that has a right to dictate what we want in our lives is the CREATOR himself the government didn't make us who we are we are what made us the way we are through CHRIST

[Mrwoo99]

@CancerianMan81 What are you talking about lol

If your partner leaves you then your going to have to give up half of your money and resources. You will also have to slave away to pay alimony for her and child support for the rest of your days. That's what the government is doing to men becuase its a feminist law been put down to control and take their husbands rights away from him. Feminism is bad people.

[CancerianMan81]

We're in FINAL JUDGEMENT PHASE if we don't stop now we're going to lose everything we do have and it's only going to get worse if we don't put a stop to it

[Mrwoo99]

@CancerianMan81 Are you religious or something... what do you mean?

[CancerianMan81]

the reason why we're in turmoil is because we've taken God out of everything we have that's why you see everything getting out of hand mass shooting tornado's happening all across the globe hurricane's happening

[Mrwoo99]

@CancerianMan81 It's got nothing to do with God I assure you.

Its more to do with these feminist laws that I don't agree with that are destroying commited relationships lol.

[CancerianMan81]

@Mrwoo99 oh I'm pretty sure it is cause God's pissed at all of us FINAL JUDGEMENT is coming down on our heads rather anyone believe's me or not

[CancerianMan81]

and everybody can sit and laugh all you want just wait til that time comes you won't be laughing then

[Mrwoo99]

@CancerianMan81 Alright mate! Whatever you like to call it. Judgement Day, end of days, the great apocalypse... or the 10 plagues of western civilisation lol Everybody has identified a problem with the system we live in. It's just a matter of people standing up to it.

[lacorine197]

"us men can be the one's that show that we care for the women but the fact of the matter is they don't want to show that they care for us men" @CancerianMan81 exactly!!! you got it!!

[lacorine197]

@Mrwoo99 Mate, tell me these sites you go to? I don't want to date American women, some of them are too high for their own good, the attitudes like they have it worse than women out in the east. or in china, or in north africa..

[Mrwoo99]

@lacorine197 I don't go to any websites but I would advise to check out red pill sites such Return of Kings who upload great wisdom and knowledge on female nature and they write articles on women from the east been more relationship material, whereas women in the west are just for quick pump and dump.

I used to date girls from eastern Europe and am telling you from experience they're the most loveliest type of women you'll meet and they appreciate good caring providers over there becuase they're brought up differently... the're another class of women unlike women over here in west that are encouraged by feminism to be just dirty whores.

[19magic]

Why does every one think us West girls, are all whores. I get that some experience makes it out so but not every girl is one or they're be no solid loving relationships with your friends. Or coworkers, neighbours family. Are you saying that every single girl you've ever met wants to fuck you or another random guy and that's it. That all thee females are incapable of relationships, never to be trusted since its incomprehensible that she may ikebana a guy for the guy and not his assets.

[19magic]

*actually like a guy...

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic they come off to me that way where I come from every girl I've dated are noting but users and all they care about is having parties getting drunk and doing drugs and hooking up with random guys that they don't even care about cause all they want to is use them

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 I like going to parties and getting drunk, but out of my friends I seem to be the only one who can get drunk and remember everything that happened like I'm reading a book. As for drugs wouldn't touch them at all, I've seen what they can do to a person from the age of 6. I've seen the effect in people throughout my life since, due to living in particularly bad neighbourhoods.

[19magic]

As for sleeping around not my style, I've kissed a few different guys while drunk. But don't let it go father, nor do I lead the guys on. Had one ons then realised that I never want to do it again.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic me I just don't care for it anymore I just want to settle down and be with a girl that I can spend the rest of my life with

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 I'm only 19, I'll stop around 22/23 then it'll only be on occasion, :P not that I do it as much as some of my peers. A few of them went out every single night for almost two months. Whereas I went out a total of 4

[Mrwoo99]

@19magic I Just wanna know why girls are whoring around with alpha males, trying to commit with douchbags and having multiple kids with them. What's wrong with having relationships and sex with good decent caring nice guys who just want to provide and give affection to their woman. I just don't understand why the girls don't give their time, sex and relationships to the great nice guys in their life. Why give it to these tall jacked douchbags who treat women like garbage or use women as sex toys when the good guy all that time has been there for you. Why do you think MGTOW exists becuase all the good guys are fed up of the dating scene of women whoring around with bad boys and deviant players

[19magic]

@Mrwoo99 I dont know, with all the movements going around some get listened to. Which some girls take to mean controllin you own life = wanting sex whenever they like or basically being the female verison of male douchbags. After watching some celebities or random people do it on TV no wonder many girls are behaving just like them. I mean isn't that what big brother is like or the kardashian etc. I know there's more.
Some girls generally dont know the guy their dating is an idiot and fell for his charms, then end up marrying him to find him completely different to what he portrayed. While otheres know their with idiots and stick with him till they find someone they like better, or might be with him since they dont believe they can get anyone better with the assumption someone is better than no one.

The only other thing I can think of is the sterotype that good guys don't take charge, or that the good ones only like the ''good sex''.
I don't know whats going on with society anymore...

[19magic]

everything just seems like garbage nowadays.
I'm not being mean here but what does the letters MGTOW stand for, the first time I saw it or heard of it was the yesterday on here. I'm assuming it means standing up for mens rights, or the opposite of feminism.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic umm really not taking charge huh every time I do take charge you women always tell me that I'm trying to change who you women are and getting all pissed off and tell me that I'm not going to tell you women what to do and that you don't fucking want me then you want to break up with me and I just sit there and just say I'm not going to deal with this bullshit

[CancerianMan81]

you know you women act to damn childish for my liking anymore

[CancerianMan81]

and MGTOW= Men going their own way

[CancerianMan81]

and rightly so cause what man would stand around and be told that their less than a woman that claims that we're the problem for everything that is happening in this world NO MAN WOULD.

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 There it is again, the generlisation of every female being the same. I was waiting for this to pop up.

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 There never should have been a male/female side to culture in the first place it should have been just a gender rights. So that females can get the same money doing the same jobs etc and males dont get left with nothing in a divorce, when it's generally females who start the procedure.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic I didn't every woman is the same you're putting words in my mouth and I don't fucking like it cause if if I did say that every woman is the same then that's what would have been on my comments and it would have looked like this EVERY WOMAN IS THE SAME

[CancerianMan81]

and nowhere did you see that in my comments

[CancerianMan81]

oh so it's a money problem huh

[CancerianMan81]

that's another reason why us men don't want to deal with you women cause you're to damn money hungry

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 I meerly used two examples from either side like: women are allowed to work in a 'mans' environment and allowed to wear trousers. Men getting the same support a female can in either mental, monetry or health issues. Double standards needs to be worked out.

[19magic]

Not you did not use those words, instead you used you women this you women that. Meaning that all females are the same.

[19magic]

As for money itself I'll buy my own shit don't need any support, it'll be nice sure, but I'll get what I want eventurally and there's nothin anyone's going to do about it.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic well i agree I don't want to fight with you women anymore then women don't want fight with us men but listen and I've thought about this recently the support that us men give to you is allow you to be the better version of yourself so that you can do what you can do to get it done so that you don't have to feel guilty about making mistakes

[Dipsy]

This is the longest post chain I've seen on GaG

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 I'd rather make mistakes than be perfect at something, that's how we learn and adapt. Shouldn't that be the same for everyone, just pull back slow down and admit things... or have I caught the wrong end of the stick here?

@Dipsy A good discussion needs points to be argued, and allows someone to take a walk in someone else's shoes. But still controversial topics lol

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic no you didn't I just overthink things I have a real problem with that

[lacorine197]

@19magic newsflash, women do get paid the same amount for the same job, they don't want to get paid lower for doing something that doesn't require risk. simple.

[19magic]

@lacorine197 ummm... there are plenty of jobs that pay differently due to gender and also race. I want to be an accountant or a stock investor, but a male will probably earn at least 1-5% more in one of the later studies. Its nothing to do with risk, well acturally your right businesses dont want to risk females taking a load of time off due to them becoming pregnant.

[lacorine197]

@19magic no I'm saying , risk is involved because some females do not want to risk their lives or their time for doing much more dangerous tasks. show me the sources instead of finger pointing saying, "this guy gets paid higher than me cause he has a dick"

[Mrwoo99]

@19magic Anything a woman can do... a man can do better. Reasons why we get paid more. It has nothing to do with taking women's rights away of equal pay, you women just can't face up to the double standard and realise that women aren't biologically capable as good as man in workforce. Women get paid less becuase its common sence and rational logic, women can't accept it and get emotional about it when they can't have their own way.

Ever since feminism started women have done nothing but whine like spoilt princesses who think men have it easier than women.

[CancerianMan81]

@Mrwoo99 they don't work hard enough their to damn lazy and I've seen it to many times they tell us men that they don't need us men when we know that's a lie

[Mrwoo99]

@CancerianMan81 they seem to forget while they're sat in their little offices or behind a reception desk on telephone complaining about how much they get paid the degree they have, there's men out there doing all these dangerous jobs women wouldn't even do even as a last resort, men are getting paid fuck all for these dangerous jobs.

Men should get paid more becuase men contribute more to civilisation and bring more money in to the economy. Everything you see around you is there becuase a man put it there.

Hence the word 'man made'... is there anything called 'woman made'? Except the invention of the blowjob by a medieval prostitute named Cynthia lol

[CancerianMan81]

the thing of it is we're women's scapegoat and I for one am getting sick of it they need to get their shit but if we tell them to do that and they go for independence they go over board on it I just for once wish that they find some damn commonplace for once or get centered rather

[19magic]

@Mrwoo99 Well other than mining, which in the country I reside in, no longer exists there's no dangerous jobs I can think of. Other than the illegal ones, there's 'dirty' jobs like rubbish men , plumbers, mechanics and farmers. But not risk factor jobs which you've been talking about. I suppose firemen can be one but female participation has increased a hell of a lot in that too. And yeah there is a lot of things men done as their minds are built in such a way that they can be really great at one thing and shit at others, whereas females are generally all round average. Many autistic people are male and autistic means your even more focused on one thing. It's said that Einstein was autistic since a lot of the signs were there.

@CancerianMan81 agreed shits been taken too far and a lot of women use it as an excuse to shift blame or make people pity them. Especially since its used to victimise women.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic you deserve a follow for that

[CancerianMan81]

thanks by the way

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 it pissed me off, when one of my 'feminist' friends kept complaining about films having sexy skinny girls in them. Having scenes where she's topless and men ogle her Tits. But when a topless guy with a six pack, came on the screen, she was all for that. She didn't want to hear about it when I said she was a hypocrite. Donno if I said that on this line, but the whole double edged sword is fucking annoying.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic it fucking is makes me fucking sick to my stomach

[19magic]

Plus there's females who cry to journalists that this famous guy touched her up five years ago, just so she can get money. The first he even heard about police searching his apartment for indecent pictures, was when he saw it on TV. The whole thing was fake and the city it happened in, he was actually doing a tour in another city. Which was the only reason he was let off, his career was half ruined all because of some stupid girls who supported feminism, and believed by sticking together (others claimed the same thing) they'll withe case and his money. I believe there should be some universal rule about fake rape cries.

[CancerianMan81]

and it takes a lot to make me sick to my stomach

[CancerianMan81]

yeah some kind of punishment

[lacorine197]

@19magic I'm glad you can see the double standards, respect.

[Mrwoo99]

@lacorine197 This post is going to be longer than my dissertation for my degree lol

[lacorine197]

@Mrwoo99 lmfaoo

[CancerianMan81]

@Mrwoo99 yeah I know that's pretty bad you know and I'm being serious about this women have absolutely have made me sick to want to be in a relationship with'em

[CancerianMan81]

and I'm going to say this in all of the time that I have been alive have I ever have to go for any help for having suicidal thoughts and wanting to murder somebody but this year alone I have and now I have to go to a psychiatrist because I'm wanting to be in a relationship with women and ain't it rich that millions upon millions of men are going through the same thing and all these women can say is that all of these men are the problem for why they are being single

[CancerianMan81]

I was fucking fine till this year came then everything spiraled out of control and women just went apeshit

[CancerianMan81]

what's "IN IT FOR ME" bullshit

[YellowCactus]

@BubbleBoy69 After checking the first picture, I start to re-thinking about my current attempt at dating women and if I should date at all... hmm...

The idea presented on the first picture just scares the shit out of me to be honest with you.

[Mrwoo99]

@YellowCactus it's simple just don't pay for women unless your guranteed sex or relationship. Take a girl on a date where it's just a coffee.

[YellowCactus]

@Mrwoo99 Who would take a girl to a$$ fancy restaurant on the first date? It doesn't make any sense. I mean, it might do if you are a freaking billionaire not a normal Grey John from the street.

"it's simple just don't pay for women unless your guranteed sex or relationship. "

That sounds inappropriate to do, lol...

[19magic]

@Mrwoo99 What if she's a dumb ass bitch who wants a relationship, oops you've paid for her.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic you know this whole I want you to pay for our first date is crazy and expecting him to pay when going into a relationship you're not really go into a relationship expecting anything to come out of it cause if you do you'll be disappointed every time I can understand if you did something worthwhile that you get rewarded but getting something because you want doesn't equate to get what you want for doing nothing it doesn't happen

[CancerianMan81]

I'm sorry but that ain't how it works

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 I totally agree with you when I have and will do I'll split the bill, never saw the point in that 'traditional' thing of dating. When times have changed, after all that was only there since females don't work and we're around to clean and have children. Nowadays we're working and being our own person supporting each other in whatever way possible whether it's financially or emotionally.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic yeah but the thing of it is there ain't nobody that's hardly financially stable

[CancerianMan81]

you can't fucking get blood out of a turnip

[19magic]

No... but you can cut and dice, put in the freezer for later.

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic right

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 depends what your definition of financially stable is. A job you can pay the bills with and manage to put some money back for doing different activities or for buying stuff what you need. To me that's perfectly stable, you don't need dates or holidays half the time their over rated. There might be times when your hard done by and that's okay too. I remember when I was younger living on bread, butter and water for several days cause we had no money. It wasn't luxurious but it worked.

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 you were the one talking about turnips... I admit I can be weird. But still

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic I'm saying that there's no job security jobs are not here

[19magic]

@CancerianMan81 I'm still being optimistic on that front... I'll answer that in a few years

[CancerianMan81]

@19magic yeah but in the mean time I just wish things would get better

[YellowCactus]

@Mrwoo99 "it's simple just don't pay for women unless your guranteed sex or relationship. Take a girl on a date where it's just a coffee."

You still need to pay for that coffee tho

@19magic What if she's a dumb ass bitch who wants a relationship, oops you've paid for her.

Can you elaborate your sentence? What do you mean by a dumb bitch who wants a relationship? I mean you still shouldn't take her to a$$ fancy restaurant if you don't know her that well, lmao.

[Mrwoo99]

@YellowCactus FUCK ME!! this post is epic... be like bible soon. Trying to find me comment like digging deep in to a post wall sluts bargain bucket.

[19magic]

@YellowCactus I mean it's quite easy to fake shit knowledge, and everything else. If you've only met the first time.

[YellowCactus]

@19magic @Mrwoo99 Sorry brah I ain't gay but thanks for the offer anyway 😂 😂

[YellowCactus]

@19magic @Mrwoo99 Good to know that someone appreciates me more than a friend 😂 😂

[JudgmentDay]

Won't really matter to me anymore as I've stopped asking anyone out a very very long time ago, as I've already given up on "dating" and I just DO NOT believe in love after realizing the "TRUTH" for what the underlying cause for "love" and "physical attraction" to be. What causes those desires? Just hormones and chemicals in our brains and bodies. And then eventually it all wears off.

So then, why did it even mattered at all in the first place?

Deep down I think we're all really alone and lonely on the inside despite being with somebody else or surrounded by other people because it's just that, they ARE NOT OURSELVES and they can NEVER BE US.

If dating, sex, and/or relationships ever really mattered at all, it's only because many of us would choose to keep this cycle with the possibilities of suffering and pain to keep going that allow and permit the possibility of a painless extinction. Yea, it's the whole survival instincts and selfish kind of thing, it's entirely part of our DNA, can't really get rid of it. You bring someone into existence ONLY because YOU WANTED TO bring them into existence, and because you COULD bring them into existence in the first place. But the truth is there are many MANY Unhappy people in this world, and not all of them may actually even be aware of it.

From my very own perception, Dating and Relationships only even mattered if somebody actually want their own family with children or something as that is more often than not, the end goal, the real goal, other than the usual whole "getting laid" or "score" thing.

But I realize having a family with offspring just is not something I will ever agree with as I look into things even further and deeper, existentially deeper. If you aren't able to, then you're lucky and you shouldn't because it's very very bleak and melancholic. Even if I were to try and hide this and try to "date" somebody, I can't hide these deep dark and unhappy feelings and thoughts "forever" and it wouldn't even make sense for me to even try anymore.

For me, there are absolutely No turning back, it just can't be changed in any possible way. As there is only really just one way everyone is headed after coming into existence, to make the decisions of either choosing to prolong this entire cycle with the same inevitable end, or just let it be the end just for themselves and face it on their own by themselves absolutely without involving anyone else. As the very end it just that, the inevitable emptiness.

[Xseed]

If guys should pay on the first date really depends on the guy and how competent he is. If he takes you to a fancy restaurant but has 20 bucks in his pocket, then that's just dumb. First dates should be casual and easy AND creative. Especially if the guy likes you a lot. I am talking coffee, ice cream and a walk, more walks. Pretty much just walks. If he has 20 bucks in his wallet then he should be able to pay for the first date. That's how easy the first date should be.

The pet names really depends on the girls. But if it's a problem to you then kindly tell the guy you don't like him calling you those names so early on. It's called communication. Talk about it. This goes hand in hand with men and women who Bitch to everyone around them about their significant others problems but doesn't talk to the significant other themselves and expect the problem to go away. Serious? Come on.

The pushing for sex again depends on the guy AND the girl. I was with a girl for a year and we had sex on the first date. Same time I dated another girl for a year and we had sex a month after our first date. WHEN to have sex is not the issue. The WHY is important. If you're both into each other and both already know that you want to date each other, then have sex whenever. People have this fear that early sex means no commitment. Wrong. Guys and girls who just want sex and no commitment, means no commitment. If you make a guy, who doesn't want a commitment, wait months before having sex, do you think he'll magically change his mind? Again this comes down to communicating what it is that both people want. I know, talking about this stuff is awkward. But so is when he/she fuqs you and doesn't contact you after.

This last one is stupid. "Too clingy or not clingy enough"? Serious? No wonder men nowadays are so confused about dating and women, when girls throw around statements like that. The term "clingy" is so wrong and misinterpreted today. If a guy calls and texts you regularly then he's interested in you. Iam sure most women have done this as well. Very rarely do you see guys completely destroying a girls inbox with texts, those are overly aggressive guys. Clingyness is if he's relying on the girl for his happiness and satisfaction in life and not himself. Women have blown the term out of proportion. If she doesn't like the guy from the get go, then anything he does she will judge harshly on. Ever heard the term, "an attractive person can do no wrong"?

[lizee]

Apart from the paying thing (I'd be happy to go on a picnic), I think most of the above goes both ways. Most of the above can relate to guys as well as girls.

[aeblalock]

You know, I hate to sound argumentative but these reasons are simply not enough for a woman to have any sort of resentment toward a man. Men are not women. They behave differently.

Just to address your points:
-Paying on the first date: How would you feel if you were obligated to pay for a man indefinitely (thinking that it is an expectation)? Would you resent that person or would you gladly pay the bill? What if you were in debt and really couldn't afford to pay for two people every time you go on a date with this person?
-Pet names: so he doesn't know your last name; but he still likes you so he wants to call you baby, honey, etc.
-Texting: Men are known for being less communicative over text messaging. It's been said time and time again that women put way too much thought into a mans texting habits.
-Pushy with sex: Men are biologically wired to spread their seed. Good, bad, or whatever, it's just how they are. If a man is in a committed relationship with a woman, he will want to have sex with her! Even if he's just on a first date, if he's attracted to his date,, sex will run through his mind at some point.
-Not clingy/too clingy: This has nothing to do with a man's behavior but a woman's expectation of his behavior.

So, while I like your post and thank you for prompting such thought, I have to give my opinion - the way women resent men is one of my soapboxes and I feel like the expectations women have of men are destroying the very fabric of the modern relationship.

[smartman12]

amen

[Tdieseler]

1) I used to pay for dates, not any more. Females are too frickin fickle and i end up wasting my time, and hard earned money. Its fine for one girl, but its multiple for some guys, that shit adds up.
2) That one doesn't even apply to me. My terms of endearment are usually ruder.
3) In my experience, its usually the girls that do that one word bullshit, and you should be happy when a guy takes time to respond... means he's got a life and is not hanging on to the phone for your messages. And know you women, if he was hanging on to the phone just waiting for you to contact, you would eventually call him clingy or even better, a stalker.
4) Well, its our fucking nature... you women are too pushy for commitment but are unwilling to pay the price which is sex so... you want commitment, well, be ready to pay the price... im yet to meet a man who has cheated on a woman that gives him what he wants... aka sex. Other women only look interesting when the main girl is lacking...(and you my friend, yes you Asker, Seem to be lacking a lot)
5) Too clingy, not clingy enough... perfect example of why i say women should shut the hell up in relationships... y'all don't even know what you want and want guys, who are clueless by the way, to figure all this shit out... if a guy is not clingy, its bad, if he's too clingy its STILL bad. If he's not confident, its bad, if he's TOO confident its bad...
Women say men don't understand them, its because women don't even understand themselves. And women claim to understand men, y'all don't even have a fucking clue... understand yourselves first before you encroach on our section.
Im gonna call in my niggas @Fearless_banana @anonman32 @DooMguy @OlderAndWiser (theres more but...) for their input on my opinion. Guys that actually have a clue.

[DooMguy]

+ 1

generally this is something I'd just ignore

seriously number 4, what happens when you aren't pushy for sex? The friendzone, happens every time.

"Females are too frickin fickle" "perfect example of why i say women should shut the hell up in relationships..."

these two quotes pretty much hit the nail on the head. There will be situations where a woman will ask you to do something then complain about the way you do it. In other words even if you do the right thing you're still wrong

They way I see it, even if the take writer found the perfect guy who did all of this he might accidentally leave the toilet seat up one day and that undoes everything

0/10 take, it's good that you disagree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr162OZ2Z0w

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[Tdieseler]

@DooMguy lol... dawg... them pics tho...
I should sooooo include you in the take that im writing... it mentions this. its gonna be bad dude, im going for max down votes.

[Fearless_banana]

I agree. My opinion, she has set these dumb standards and thinks a guy has to fall perfectly into them. Truth is if a guy follows these standards to the tee it will actually turn her off. Women don't want a man tip toeing around trying to impress her.

[DooMguy]

those pictures are funny but true. Generally when it comes to women short term is best for men but in the long term there won't be anything left. And with a woman like this things won't even be good in the short term

notice that women want to be approached but if you don't approach in the right way you're a 'creep' or stalker. . . or something

Also just look at the votes on this take 42-4 to women, no surprise there

Sign me up for that take, it sounds like things could get intresting

[Tdieseler]

@Fearless_banana they say they do tho and thats what irks the fuck outta me. They set these dumb ass rules and standards... only to hate those who are actually good at following them... they call those "players" and hate them. Then the ones who don't take their bullshit, they call them "dumb" or "prejudiced" or "sexist" or "bitter"... they can't make up their fuckin minds.
what you said is perfect..."... thinks a guy has to fall perfectly into them..." ima add that to my upcoming Take. You guys are gonna LOVE it.

[Tdieseler]

@DooMguy oh it definitely will... and those 42 women... dumbasses... and the bitch ass guys that actually up voted this nonsense... talking about this is the reason we don't want to date you... that problem is fuckin internal. Dating is a trial period to see if two (or more) people are compatible enough to move on to the next level. if not, they split. She's acting like dating itself is marriage.
Anyone with half a knowledge or relationships knows that you never know where the right one will come from and that is why you don't turn down Anyone. Don't gotta date everyone but at least get to know em. Its irritating how many girls i know that just turn down guys from looks alone, then turn around and go "No real men"... the fuck? you turned down 6 then day before... one of them could have been "real" but because he wasn't decked out with bling, it wasn't your thing. Dude ima keep saying it... most women just dumb as shit.

[DooMguy]

It looks like we are the redpill now? If you see what MGTOW write about some of it is dead on, I don't agree with everything they say but I always remember that these guys talk from experience

"most women just dumb as shit"

now you got me thinking. . .

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Maybe the OP looks like this ^

it's basically "where have all the good men gone?" I don't think the good men went anywhere. The thing is that the girls who turn men down will actually lose out in the long run. *shrug* their loss I suppose.

People can be too quick to judge these days, it really does take a long time to get to know someone and even when you think you them they can still surprise you

the men up voting = manginas

[Tdieseler]

@DooMguy Finally went to check out the mgtow site... holy hell... its like i wrote it myself but not as aggressively though. I know that women that check it out would probably all be like "its a site that men all gather and bitch" or some shit like that, trying to get at our egos like they always do. But when they huddle/gang up on a guy and degrade him, thats perfectly fine.
Man, that fuckin site speaks some truth... I've found a new hobby. Im not mgtow, but i think like em and see their point but... i sadly still have slim hope for women.

[DooMguy]

it's to be expected on those site, they call it the red pill rage. Some of those men were fed comfortable lies then when they found out the uncomfortable truth in the worst way possible (divorce, child support etc.) they ain't to happy about it and I don't blame 'em

most of the time women would just call MGTOW types misogynists without knowing anything about them. You're right about that, they'd go for typical shaming

I'm kinda the same, I lukr the forum a lot but I wouldn't actually join. Just wondering what site did you go to? mgtow. com or something else?

having a slim hope is realistic, some mgtows still have relationships with women from what I've heard. They really do know the do's and dont's. You might think NAWALT right now but most of the time its AWALT

[NJ_Casanova]

From your comments I can see why you'd only post as ANONYMOUS ;-P

1. comment just tells how much a Prostitute women are. "You got to pay to play".

2. Is meet to be endearing/sweet... and in the first date or 2 most girls do n't give their last name.

3. If you ask a Yes/No question... then you should expect a 1 word answer. Having a conversations using txting is Dumb and so is talking on the phone for hours (unless you live far apart). men don't like to do it. We'd rather have the conversation face to face.

4. Most men are horny. Hell if he's spending $100+ on the date... Most men would expect something... maybe you should go DUTCH if you want to "just be friends". Sex is the only reason that a guy would put up with a girl's BS... if he WASN'T 100% "In Love" with her.

5. True... most guys should limit texts to 2-3 MAX in general.. if she didn't reply. I do think after the first date a "had a goodnight, text me when you get home safe, or I'd like to see you again" text should be the only " 1 " text a guy should send after a first date. Girls can't have it both ways... Either you'll get a guy that is REALLY interested in you and contacts you often... or you'll get the guy that only wants sex and isn't interested that takes a long time/doesn't text often. You have to choose the guy you want (marrying type or a hook up).

[Smmyskittles]

I really hope this is a joke.

1. The first date does not matter who pays. I COULD NOT care less. Said several times before, I'll pay. So long as it gets paid.

What if it doesn't work out? How many girls after you is he going to date or try to? How much will that add up to for him? Split the bill if it matters to you so much. Damn.

2. Have you TOLD him your last name? Have YOU even asked his? Mhm. Interesting.

3. "You Take Forever to Respond to Calls/ Messages or Respond With 1 Word Answers!" - Do you have a life? Define "forever".

There are some users that I take 2+ days to respond to just because I don't have the time. Great example. I JUST got to PMS from Wed/Thursday. Extremely busy and didn't have the time. - - - Maybe you're too clingy?

4. Sometimes. lmao. Yet, women can be the same way.

5. Ghosting is different than "not clingy enough". I'd rather a man who makes time for me and shows me he cares to do it. Not someone who's constantly trying to get my attention. Although, once in a while <3 it's nice to be spoiled like that.

@akadatank44 - You've blown up my kik like that before. I really liked coming back to that many messages.

So, umm, how do you define the "perfect" amount of clingy.

[akadatank44]

Lmao the day you taught me a lesson for turing off my phone is that what your referring to? 😜

I think the take owner is getting at these guys who are inconsistent with their replying back like at first it's right away but then later on its two weeks ya know?

[Smmyskittles]

@akadatank44 >:} You've learned from that lesson, yes? There was no need to return and blow up my phone.

Which, you did once again AFTER that. I can't remember why. But, I liked coming back to that. <3 Yeah

[akadatank44]

Lmao they was a need to tease you about it 😜 haha

[Smmyskittles]

@akadatank44 - That wasn't nice.

[akadatank44]

Hahah whatever Sam I am 😜

[Smmyskittles]

@akadatank44
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[Bizzaro_Elmo]

... marry me?

[Bizzaro_Elmo]

What narcissistic, cheap, pushy, uptight, frigid femi-nazi decided asking this question, while on her flow, was a good idea?
"Pay on the first date?" No, you ape with long hair. WHY in the hell would I "invest" in a date if I don't know there will be a second one? Why would I even consider spending money when all YOU EQUATE to up to that point is "someone I talk to a little more than anyone else"? "Pay for the first date." [scoffing... loudly] I'll PAY for a date when YOU wake US up because its time to go to the diner for breakfast. HOW about that?
TEXTING is a woman's... thing. Men will text, IF we have time. Either we don't have time OR we don't feel like waiting on you to finish 3 other conversations you have going OR we are waiting on you to mention or flirt with with a sex question. Anything else, if it's not news, then it's inane.
Too pushy for sex: Really? Hmmm, I wonder if it's because you screwed around so long TEXTING us with suggestive flirts and waiting on the "perfect" time to have sex, that all we are interested in by the time you "Come over and Chill" is that we keep our Blue Balls from literally taking away our ability to walk. I wonder who's fault that is? (BTW: What mongoloid doesn't know "Netflix & Chill" is date-talk for "We've waited long enough, lets have wild monkey sex on the coffee table.")
Too clingy? This from "Why won't you talk to me?" "You should be more expressive with your feelings." "Why are you so quiet today?" "That's all? Your mother is doing 'fine?' After having her hip replaced? She's just doing 'fine?'" "What do you think of this dress?" "I know you said you were going out with your friends, but you could've called me to let me know you were okay!" Then if we stay up under you, NOW THAT's a problem? ... typical...

[Bizzaro_Elmo]

I see 1 mangina disagrees. There's a shock.

[Bugiman]

So silly
Point 1) That is just sexist, expecting someone to pay entirely on his gender... Did we go back in time?
Point 2) I can get the nicknames sound stupid, and I personally wouldn't do it. but you would brush off a guy who might be nice in all other ways simply because he called you nickname too early? Seems like something you could easily solve if you're an adult. Not something to break a future relationship over
3) Some people simply aren't attached to their phones. i personally think it's way to clingy for someone to expect me to always reply in short notice and always have elaborate messages ready. I don't like long calls/long texts/stories. But I can't see why this would make me a non-dateable guy. It's only at the start of a relationship that you want to hear each other all the time. Afer a while you also need your own space (at least in my relationship)
4) Am I? Again very sexist. you're male so you push too much for sex... so cliché
5) This last definitely shows the whole fault of your entire post.
You say it yourself, some people are verly clingy others not. This is so with both males and females. And this goes for most your points. These are very personal preferences you have that you broadcast as general truth.

This take should be named "What I don't like in guys at this moment in my life"
What you search in a man will probably change over the years aswell

[MCheetah]

I'm gonna try not to curse in thiis...

1. No. I'm not your sugar daddy and we're both grown adults. Unless you're unemployed or my paid escort, you pay for your own sh*t. What I look like, an ATM? You can't complain about women not having equality, and then do sh*t like this. And you can't expect men to pay for your sh*t like some kind of sugar daddy and not give it up afterwards, unless you're just looking to take advantage of him. You can't say "my time is valuable" and then imply his time AND money isn't. Get f*cked.

Western women, this is why modern men don't want to put up with your sh*t anymore.

2. Does it f*cking matter? Like, is the future love of your life really dependent on him asking you what your last name was? Did you ever TELL him your f*cking last name? I imagine so many women wouldn't even give that out on the first few dates, just to be safe.

3. If a man says/does too much, he's picky/annoying. If he does too little, you pull sh*t like this. What is the right f*cking response then? You're not even mad he's ghosting you or acting indifferent, but that he's not saying enough for your entitled bitch ass. What if you asked him a simple question, like "are you free this weekend?" and he's busy at work, and all he can say is "Yes."

4. If you don't know by now that most men want sex, then you should just become a lesbian. And it's not like they're raping you or anything; you can always politely tell him no. I mean, your entitled ass wants free food after all. You're not willing to go Dutch or anything. So why are you acting like this is such a big deal? And to point it out, YOU are the one choosing these men. Maybe YOU should stop choosing horndogs, and go after men willing to wait. I see no accountability from you, or for women in general, anywhere in this.

5. Again, what the F*CK do you want?

[Anonymous]

I wonder how girls would be if guys made something like this...
Girls hears why we don't want to date you.
( #Triggering if your a feminize)
1) Were not sure if it would offend you if we pay or hold the door or show any kind of old fashion respect, and if we don't choose right will have hell to pay.
2) you assume I want sex now, I can't go on a date with out the girl at first having the fear I'm gonna rape her because society pushes this all men are rapist BS.
3) I'm worried your gonna do something fucked up ( rape me, call rape wen it was consent, beat me up/ be abusive, go off the wall and lie that i abused you) and if you do law is more likely to turn a blind eye, and ill be the one shamed for either the lie about me or that i was a pussy because men "aren't effected by abuse" and "can't be raped" and ill completely loose my life.
4) your don't appreciate all i do for you but if you do one nice thing you expect the world, or you just use use as a credit card and think sex makes it even, I'm not dating you because i want a pricey prostitute.
5) for some resin you base our relationship on texting, not the time we do spent together, and if i don't reply the way you like you assume I'm cheating or something else crazy.
( oh shit i forgot to put over sexuality or obsessive images of women to push my point. and what i added things that are real problems unlike the article I'm spoofing.. let me go check my male privilege.. oh whats that feminizes are making women more superior and privileged, crap )

[bobbyxx]

Ha ha very well put.

[smølf]

"You Won't Pay For The Girl On The First Date!"

If we ask a girl, we pay, if she asks she pays, and if she don't dump her on the spot.

"You Call Me "Baby, Honey, Sweetie" & You Don't Even Know My Last Name!"

True be polite and respect one another at all time, once your are into one another a pet name may be suitable, not until then.

"You Take Forever to Respond to Calls/ Messages or Respond With 1 Word Answers!"

This is highly individual, some girls like quick responses for some a more slow is fine, however spamming is never good for either gender.
Send one message and wait, if you need a answer send a polite reminder the next day at the earliest, if he/she do not responds, dump him/her or expect an apology when they respond - they owe you a suite response time, and a fair priority regardless of how busy they are. If they can't manages that, then they are not ready for or worthy of YOU.

"You Are Too Pushy For Sex!"

It's ok to try, but respect a refusal and decide if you still want to persuite this relationship or not.

"You Are Too Clingy/Not Clingy Enough!"

Again highly individual, and it's more about compatibility than gender.

[Words_and_Wisdom]

"You Won't Pay For The Girl On The First Date!"
You telling me that I should pay for you on the first date shows that you do not value my time. You think you're entitled to a free meal / coffee or whatever. No. Your time is not any more or less valuable than mine. You pay your fair share.

"You Take Forever to Respond to Calls/ Messages or Respond With 1 Word Answers!"
Tch... women put way less effort into messaging me from my experience.

"You Are Too Pushy For Sex!"
I'll never force you to do anything you're uncomfortable with. But if you think there's something inherently wrong with sex then that's something you need to work on. In the mean time I'm not going to wait around.

"You Are Too Clingy/Not Clingy Enough!"
Well don't play mind games. Don't intentionally try to 'test' us. If we message you too soon, we're clingy. If we don't message you right away, we're distant. Fuck off and make up your mind. You're not worth my time and effort if you can't admit that you're into me or not.

[Anonymous]

TO THE GUYS!!! this is so fking funny xD how so many guys here are so offended yet a lot of the article is true.
one guy expected me to pay for his food and then expected to get laid... for what? his convo which was mostly me asking the questions.

If a guy doesn't make an effort we assume he's not into us, which is why guys like this don't get dates or a second look. you can class yourself as a nice guy, but until you make an effort your going to look lame af.

don't be mad because you know you lack these things... instead learn from it. you don't have to sell your soul to make an effort, or spend fking 500 on a date... use the brain, simple is more. it's usually the thought that counts. don't invite a girl on a date and expect her to pay... by all means you can cut the date short or never see that girl again if you feel like she didn't enjoy/wasn't grateful. but don't sit here behind your computers acting like us women are the problem when in fact it's your brains not working accordingly to set standards and limits on what you do and don't do when making an effort.

[bobbyxx]

Pathetic lousy pink anon. We won't allow you to sponge of us. And it is not all about what women want.

[bobbyxx]

And who the fuck are you to set the standards.

[Opinion Owner]

@bobbyxx no one said anything about sponging... you fking tithead lol.. and society set the standards. but clearly guys like you are why the world is so fked. CONGRATS =D well done.. give yourself a slap around the face for being the worlds dumbest bachelor.

[BuchitaBuchys]

1. Don't agree. We can go Dutch but I don't mind paying at all. This seems like female entitlement to me. Why does he need to pay? I'm not saying you to pay solely (go Dutch).

2. Eh. I'm bothered if he's calling me like "my love/wife/etc" (calm down Ted Mosby lol). I was never one to throw a fit if someone called me sweetie or something like that. Not offensive to me.

3. I agree with that. I don't like it when they seem uninterested through text.

4. I agree. I don't like it when they act as if it's all about sex or even mostly. Please get to know me first or no sex. It's this entitlement I can't stand.

5. I agree. Again, no Ted Mosby "I think I love you" type of stuff lol. But also don't be so nonchalant about us as if you don't even care if I exist (see no 3).

[akadatank44]

You've been watching How I met your mother a lot haven't you? Lmao

[BuchitaBuchys]

@akadatank44 it's one of my favorite shows lol

[akadatank44]

Lol same here!

[AleDeEurope]

@akadatank44 it's my favorite too :P

[akadatank44]

@AleDeEurope Let's go to the Mall today!

[AleDeEurope]

@akadatank44 how's your beaver?
XD

[akadatank44]

@AleDeEurope 😂😂

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[Anonymous]

The first one is the best. I had a good laugh.

"You Won't Pay For The Girl On The First Date!"
You're demanding that you shouldn't have to invest in the first date... and yet you're complaining that guys don't pay? Wow, just wow. That's rich.

"You Call Me "Baby, Honey, Sweetie" & You Don't Even Know My Last Name!"
Some girls like it, but ok, so maybe you don't like it. Doesn't mean it doesn't come from a good place. It's meant to be endearing and my intention is important, don't assume I'm a player.

"You Take Forever to Respond to Calls/ Messages or Respond With 1 Word Answers!"
Maybe I'm not one for text conversations. Maybe I'd just rather meet with you.

"You Are Too Pushy For Sex!"
Even if a guy is eager for it that doesn't mean you need to get all offended and uptight about it.

"You Are Too Clingy/Not Clingy Enough!"
Reminds me of "You Take Forever to Respond to Calls/ Messages or Respond With 1 Word Answers!" Translation: You men NEED to cater to MY desires.

"Personal experience/opinions"
Ook, so these are your personal reasons -- fine, you can hold onto them if you like, you realise they're subjective, right? Just don't try to feed me some junk about them being totally fair and reasonable.

[Hasaboyfriend]

Ummm those are superficial reasons
REAL reasons girls might not want a second date are:
1. You are not confident enough or you're narcissistic.
2. You may not be their type, she may like funny guys but you're all about sports. One girl may like quiet and gentlemanly guys, but you're too loud and obnoxious. One girl may want a guy who is loud and takes charge but you're too quiet and timid.
3. She may have found a better date, if she's actively dating she may have two or three dates set up within the same month.
4. You guys just didn't click, you may have been a good guy and eligible for dating other women, but she didn't feel anything between you.
5. She's was offended or disappointed by something you did. Maybe you didn't pay for the first date (which you shouldn't have to do, but some women want that) or maybe she is a gold digger and found out that you didn't have money, but those women aren't your time.

[Anonymous]

1) you and i are human, if we both eat, we both pay.. i am no higher than you and you are no higher than me
2) why would you waste time and energy getting worked up about something as frivolous as this?
3) agree and disagree.. if somebody says "im too busy to reply", then fuck them.. you're never too busy if you *really* want that person
4) i have no problem with 4. i believe we should have sex when both parties are ready. however, if you start to withhold your vagina from me just for that feeling of power and control, then bye bye
5) basically this is a lose lose for men.. if were clingy, we lose. if were not clingy, we lose.

ill leave off with this, women often have the bar set wayyyyyy too high when it comes to men.. they always imagine themselves with a prince who will kiss the floor that they walk on.. life doesn't work like that ladies; at least *REAL* life doesn't..

women are trained from an early age to set the bar extremely high and come crashing down emotionally at even the slightest shortcoming of her man

[Theaveragegirl]

I have to say, most dating sites may be the reason for girls with such high expectations. They say if a guy likes you, it'll be obvious. And the second I tell anyone something a dude did, it's "he's just not that in to you, sweetie"

[10dsw]

@Theaveragegirl Yes, finally, someone who gets it. I agree with you. It's become so easy nowadays for a girl to find a guy on an online dating site that naturally even traditionally mediocre girls can have attractive men messaging them. I feel like it has led to complacency. Anyhow this is something I have believed for a while so it's nice to see someone else make note of this.

[Proof_Striker55]

İn the first date , or second or others no matter , Women who expect man to pay are gold digger. Nothing more :)

[Opinion Owner]

@Proof_Striker55 Agreed.

[ManOnFire]

This really gets me about these kinds of Takes females write: "this is just my experience and it's not meant to offend anyone," or "I'm not saying ALL guys are like this." It contradicts itself! And you're always going to lose guys' respect right off the bat. No guy is gonna take you seriously by slandering them in the title, and trying to follow it up with a disclaimer in the beginning. That makes me not care right away.

[Pacificblue62]

Right. She immediately comes across as a feminazi.

[Hfelecity]

Interesting, because honesty these are pretty much the most common reasons why I choose not to continue seeing a man, aside from simply not being attracted to him.

[Pacificblue62]

@Hfelecity #4 I can understand. #1- It's like yeah I'd offer to pay but not because you are a woman. Because I had a good time and out of generosity. But when a woman makes a huge deal about going Dutch it's sketchy. She appears like a cheapskate and it's as though she believes she is owed something for spending time with someone or simply because of her gender. If you don't want to spend time with someone, don't. Money is meant to be spent and have a good time. Worse comes to worse it's ok to see eachother as equal individuals on a date. What's most important is if you had a good time, not whether or not you have a certain number of more bucks in your pocket. #2 I can see baby as being weird. Honey or sweetie- just tell them my name is this or I'd like to be called this actually. Don't drive yourself crazy over small things. #3- Happens to me all the time regardless of gender. I just see it as no one owes me a long text. How they text is their choice.

[Pacificblue62]

Expecting them to text a certain amount or call you when you want is needy and at the same time demand that the guy not be needy or too needy. So that's contradictory. Don't expect standards out of others if you your self can't perform those same standards.

[Hfelecity]

@Pacificblue62 Well what I think she means is that it's a turn off to be either extreme. Everyone wants to feel like they have something valuable so to speak, and so when a guy is obsessively clingy he seems completely attainable and therefore less appealing. But if he shows no interest, the other extreme, then we feel unwanted. So I'm short, we want a guy to show interest in us but at the same time have a life of his own.

[Pacificblue62]

@Hfelecity Its understandable the balance. Guys want that as well. Extremes neediness in general is not attractive.

[GoldenWing]

Well said!!! 😁

[WhoStoleMySock]

Unrelated, but... @ManOnFire Van Halen. Nice 👌

[ManOnFire]

@Hfelicity Okay, so because they're the most common reasons for you it must mean it's the gospel that goes for everyone else. Females need to do some waking up and realize you have issues that can make you pretty un-dateable as well. Get out of your self-pity and hostility towards men and you'll have a lot better luck.

@WhoStoleMySock Thanks

[ManOnFire]

meant @Hfelecity

[ice_vampire]

@ManOnFire
The funny part was... She said "WE" LOL...
she represents all women

[feminismisnarcissism]

agreed, the title alone screams NARCISSIST. It's not all about you... but girls like that-that's why WE won't date you and WE dump YOU. Just dumped one like this... well technically she fake brokeup with me... but then wouldn't quit texting... girls like this think they can get away with anything-thus the fake breakup-they assume we'll come begging and pleading and be too scared to stand up for ourselves after that-nope, any decent man DUMPS ya when you do that, or holds you to the fake breakup-oops.

[ManOnFire]

@feminismisnarcissism Seriously. Chicks seem to think they have some kind of monopoly on the dating world and that we should give a damn when they pout.

[feminismisnarcissism]

yep... i choose my battles but at some point enough is enough. And i dont care how hot she is-as such girls-entitlement girls, tend to be lousy in bed anyway (not giving lovers)... so I'm wondering "What exactly IS your bait? why would i put up with this? the stellar blowjobs? oh wait you barely kissed it... so you think your pussy alone gives you all the cards? SEE YA"

Fuck those bitches (metaphorically of course, literally go fuck some other bitch and let this one text you til the cows come home...)

[Bizzaro_Elmo]

GOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!

[Bizzaro_Elmo]

@feminismisnarcissism
"That's good copy, Control. Bro-Nuke of Knowledge has disintegrated Entitled Cock-Tease. Time for brew-skis." [offers knuckle bump] lol

[Ms_Sadness]

Yesss thank uuu

[AriadneSky]

well im a Woman who is attract to guys., so ill comment:-)

i dont see why #1 is an issue. why should he pay you to go out if you want to go out. presumably you BOTH want to be there so your BOTH benefitting. he should pay if yore a prostitute... otherwise, why?

i dont care about #2.

i dont think phones and texting are helpful with dating. just creates extra drama. i rather just communicate when were face to face. so again do not care about #3.

#4, well if im not ready ill say im not ready. if he accepts this he's not too pushy. i dont think trying is bad. not respecting boundaries that are COMMUNICATE is bad. some women like sex immediately also he really can't know without asking.

#5. again without texting and phone calls this wouldn't even be an issue. and if a guy-or woman- disappears well i guess he's not interested. the is not not being clingy enough. this is not being intuits. an its good he let you know quickly. so you not waste time.

[AleDeEurope]

I agree with all, it makes sense.
What bothers me is the not paying for the first date. So I show that I'm interested/invested in you, by paying... but what do girls do to show that? This is what pisses me off about dating, that girls don't do anything to show what they demand from us :/

[JCT666]

Bitches be money cravin'... -_-

[AleDeEurope]

@JCT666 Yeah, it sucks that you will treat them perfectly, kindly, giving your coat, respecting her, making her laugh... all those things, but if you don't pay for the date, it's over. All that means nothing if you don't pay.
That's one thing that keeps me from dating. And I know not every woman is like that, but there's high chances of finding one like that, and it gets exhausting to keep dating girls like that.

[orphan]

yknow if you don't want to pay for the first date in its entirety then don't. just understand there's many other guys that will. she's merely pointing out that because you'd rather not pay for all of the first date (regardless if you're cheap or operating out of "principle", then she'll lose interest.

justifying it with the logic of fairness doesn't make upnfor the fact you would rather not shell out the money... it doesn't matter why... the point is you won't. a good handful of women and men, find genuine generousity attractive.

either ask for a raise or accept that you're cutting your options in half over a lame ass principle.

[AleDeEurope]

@orphan You don't understand my point.

[orphan]

inbelieve your point is based around the presumption that women expect me to pay. seldom do they feel this way. however, if you doninsist on paying it's an act of grnerousity and investment (shows you're serious) which puts you in a old light.

you're 20 man. you're at your sexual peak..."investing" in a long term idea does t make sense for someone jus lookin to get their dick wet.

but you are complaining about $10. i doubt but you have a first date often enough to where it affects your finances anyways.

[orphan]

disregard the autocorrect misspellings

[AleDeEurope]

@orphan It's not about the money for me. $10 isn't that big a deal (unless I have a date every week, which I don't). It's the fact that money is what matters the most to many girls when it comes to their worth.
Like I said, I can treat them perfectly, be everything they want, but if I don't pay, that means nothing.
I may not be what they truly want, but if I pay, I'll get a second chance.
That's what bothers me, that it doesn't matter how good I treat them, cause if I don't pay, it won't matter.

I could give a shit if I cut my options in half, but I would not date a woman who puts her value in the money a guy spends on her.
If she thinks money is more important that respect, I'll be more than happy to not be given a second chance by her.

[Mangolover]

All women have the biological urge to feel protected by a strong males with lots of resources to support her and her offsprings. Men also have the biological urge to protect women. That's why during courtship men are expected to pick up the check. Feminists can deny all of that but it's the truth!!!

[AleDeEurope]

@Mangolover Men have the biological need to spread their seed, does that mean you're gonna have sex with us on the first date and let us impregnate other women while we date you?

[Mangolover]

But women are programmed to want a steady , committed relationship because they have to carry the baby to terms and stuff so that wouldn't work demographically. But polygamy for men was always socially acceptable ( if they had the means to support multiple wives).

[CancerianMan81]

@Mangolover are you crazy I've always been a one woman man I was never chasing tail to more than i can handle cause I value a relationship between me and the woman I love

[hellionthesage]

That's actually my issue with it as well, I have no problem with paying or even the traditional male roles, what I have a problem with is that women seem to think it only applies to men that they can sit back and not invest anything or do anything simply take what the man offers with no reciprocation.

[hellionthesage]

@orphan So basicly be a cash cow? That seems stupid. Why allow yourself to be used simply because its expected? That makes no sense what so ever. IF as she puts it its an investment, I would like to know what I am investing in and a woman who gives nothing in return isn't a good investment. You don't invest in a failing company which is precisely what your saying to do to give without any indication that there will be a return. That's just a bad investment and a stupid move.

[hellionthesage]

@Mangolover Yes but what is the inverse? Women want to nurture, women want to be submissive etc, they want to give something back to their man in the form of various gestures which use to be her being just nurturing and loving, making him meals etc all of which isn't happening any more. What is happening is that women are telling men basicly what you said yet ignoring the whole part about what they are suppose to be doing in return. Its kind of like expecting some one to do a job and then getting pissed off when they ask for their paycheck. That's the issue. (personally I am a traditional sort, the problem is traditional women are only traditional in so far as it means getting the guy to give her what she wants when it comes time for her to give back she stoppes being traditional crying the various mantras of "your not entitled to my body" or "I'm don't exist to make you happy" ironic since they seem entitled to everything I have).

[hellionthesage]

@Mangolover Actually it was more tolerated then accepted. Their where many conditions for polygamy like as you mentioned being able to provide for the woman (this was in the best interest of the woman, yet another sign of how men always looked out for women) but even then it was not exactly accepted.

[CancerianMan81]

@hellionthesage it all comes down to this and I'm dealing with it more often now then I ever was these women are basically punishing me for the fact that I'm loving them and they clearly don't see that they are doing that because their only thinking of themselves more then me why would a man want to stay around someone that's basically making us men be more lower than the person that we are dealing with and then the women saying that well if he doesn't care for me then I'm just going to fucking leave him

[CancerianMan81]

why should us men be punished for giving a woman what she wants no fucking man would put up with that bullshit

[BuchitaBuchys]

I agree with that. Why does he not only have to approach but be the person paying to show he's actually interested? Wtf is she doing then? Lol

[AleDeEurope]

@BuchitaBuchys Exactly. Even though we approached, that doesn't mean she has us hooked, she's in the same situation as us, so she has to put some effort too.

[CancerianMan81]

@BuchitaBuchys some of the women are too busy complaining and thinking that their better than anybody

[CancerianMan81]

and instead of dealing with their problems they want to sweep them under the rug

[BuchitaBuchys]

@CancerianMan81 yea. And dudes still go for them.

[CancerianMan81]

@BuchitaBuchys I don't I don't like being treated like that

[CancerianMan81]

it's almost like I'm back in high school

[BuchitaBuchys]

@CancerianMan81 yet a lot of men do. Or these women wouldn't be all demanding

[CancerianMan81]

get's on my nerves that these women act like this they need to fucking grow up

[CancerianMan81]

but the thing with me I don't give in to people cause I've been screwed over to many times

[CancerianMan81]

then they wonder why they can't keep a man and wonder why their frustrated well their there own problem cause do they think being childish is attractive I don't think it's attractive and no man would think it's attractive

[CancerianMan81]

if a person can't accept a person for the way they are then there has to be something wrong with that person because if your finding faults in others then that means there's something that you don't find good in yourself

[CancerianMan81]

you know I really do care and it's a problem that women has to say that I don't care and that I'm only thinking of myself when I want a girlfriend

[CancerianMan81]

I can't buy into that bullshit cause it's a lie

[CancerianMan81]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkfDhXhaRno

[CancerianMan81]

problems problems how you going to solve them man I'm going crazy trying to deal with these problems

[IndianGirl01]

i agree. i mean why should he pay? just bcoz u r a girl doesn't mean that u dont have to pay. its a stupid idea.

[Mangolover]

@hellionthesage It is accepted in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. It is still widely practiced in the Middle East and the orthodox Mormon communities in the us.

[IndianGirl01]

@Mangolover i dont wish to interfere in ur ongoing conversation. but just wanna say this-
no ! i am a woman. and i dont want /like to be submissive to a man. if u want to speak, speak for urself, not the entire gender.

[CancerianMan81]

@IndianGirl01 thank you

[hellionthesage]

@CancerianMan81 That's the problem, that's why so many men are pretty much done with relationships because they can't put up with that anymore, no one wants to give all they have and then be taken for granted and mistreated.

[CancerianMan81]

@hellionthesage I know I'm one of them people but all I hear is I'm too much of a bitter and angry "NICE GUY"

[CancerianMan81]

that's all I fucking hear

[hellionthesage]

@Mangolover How many Christians do you know that have multiple wives? In the middle east it was frowned upon, it actually states in the quran that it is very much preferable that you did not have multiple wives but it was not illegal. As for Mormons they have stepped away from that so its not as common as you are suggesting and the reason they have tried to down play it and step away from it is that its not really all that acceptable. Its like something being decriminalized it may not be illegal but that doesn't mean its accepted either.

[CancerianMan81]

@hellionthesage THE POINT OF SAYING I AM WHO I AM IS SO DAMN HARD FOR ME TO SAY TO WOMEN AND THE WOMEN ARE SAYING THAT NO YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE JUST A BITTER AND ANGRY "NICE GUY" WHEN HOW CAN THEY SAY THAT WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO I AM THAT HAVEN'T BEEN IN MY LIFE ENOUGH TO KNOW WHO I AM WHY DON'T THESE WOMEN CUT ME SOME DAMN SLACK FOR ONCE FFS I MEAN I'M GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME IN MY LIFE I'M JUST SIMPLY GETTING TIRED OF BEING BADGERED ALL THE TIME

[hellionthesage]

@CancerianMan81 That's why you stop caring. Laugh if they are like that they don't matter. I personally like to point out the illogic of their statements it irritates them when they get called out on their bullshit but in general the best option is not to be attached just be indifferent then decide later if a person is worth getting attached to. That's really all you can do.

[CancerianMan81]

@hellionthesage I've never seen the level of women treating men this way in all my years of living never

[CancerianMan81]

and they act as if treating us like shit is okay and act like they didn't treat us men like shit

[hellionthesage]

@CancerianMan81 That's because feminism has told women they can "have it all" that they deserve everything they want and men are evil and bad so mistreating them is okay. The influence of it is incredibly strong now but people are starting to see how twisted it really is so there is some hope.

[CancerianMan81]

and I'm telling ya i'm getting sick of it cause I've putting up with their attitude for 10 years and it's fucking getting old

[CancerianMan81]

and the more I put up with this bullshit the more angrier I get

[CancerianMan81]

I keep thinking this over in my head @hellionthesage s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/.../...a2bf36943e.jpg

[hellionthesage]

@CancerianMan81 Its true. People use persuasion/manipulation to control others, once you stop caring what they think what they say they no longer have that power over you. You then realize you are in control of your life not them and they can either acknowledge that or leave. I would not tolerate a woman mistreating me she either respects me or she can leave, its when you are more invested then she is that she gains power over you to use you or manipulate you. That of course doesn't mean mistreat them but rather if they do mistreat you cut them out of your life without hesitation.

[Mangolover]

@hellionthesage What difference does it make? Whether it's accepted or tolerated?

[hellionthesage]

@Mangolover Accepted implies wide spread and encouraged, tolerated implies that it exists but is a minority group (as it was) and that it was generally discouraged or at the very least not encouraged. Two very different things. If you don't acknowledge such nuances it will lead to the wrong conclusion.

[CancerianMan81]

@hellionthesage the one thing they don't understand how strong we can become

[CancerianMan81]

nobody can undermined a cancer we're too power

[CancerianMan81]

can't*

[lizee]

If we were interested, I'm sure we'd figure out a way to show what we "demand" (rather a strong word).

[lizee]

My personal view is that if you aren't interested after or during the date, I would offer to pay for my half of the meal. I am not a mercenary like some girls I have been acquainted with.

[AleDeEurope]

@lizee Well, give me an example of what you do to show you're invested.

[Bubbles123X]

We only have to turn up to show we're interested. Don't forget... biologically we have to choose the right person to father our children and if we're the type you'd be interested in inseminating, then there are going to be many others interested in the same thing. Why would we choose someone who doesn't appear to want to be with us except for the insemination? I think men need to learn a lot these days.

[Bubbles123X]

@lizee Please don't! Let's retrain these babies. There's a reason they have to 'chase' and 'win' us. Don't be so easy to get. They don't like it in the end anyway.

[AleDeEurope]

@Bubbles123X You're 57, your time is long gone.

[hellionthesage]

@Bubbles123X And yet a womans biological clock puts a time limit on her, a man had a much greater duration of time ergo he can wait. Their reaches a point where a woman cannot reproduce any more, no such time exists for a man, a woman wants what the man has, the only reason things work the way it does is impulsiveness on the mans part and that historicly women did give back something to the man, she respected him instead of treating him as a paycheck, she loved him instead of exploited him. Now women are not doing these things and are giving it up easily (plus now porn is much more accessible) so now men are no longer willing to play in a game that is both rigged to their disadvantage and is no longer even fun to play.

[Nobodycares]

And then she tells you what she wants you to do, but she still backs out at the end, because her brain had subconsciously decided that you aren't 'the one'. The main problem here is that women are always in search of 'the one', I'd say.

[Mrwoo99]

Why can't I just buy a girl a meal then be guaranteed sex afterwards lol