I have no idea why going dutch on the first date is such a foreign concept. Each pays for their own and no one will feel used and no one will date for a free meal or entertainment. People should try it.
Actually I believe that the guy usually pays for the first date since he's THE ONE WHO ASKED U OUT... But in general I hate when people pay for thing for me so I always pay my own way no matter the situation
This is the most bizarre thing I've ever read. I believe a guy should pay for the first date especially if he asked her to go out, but all the other things that you claim are true about me are absolutely not.
@Kirah one of the comments below said it best it's a polite gesture to show the woman you're interested in her and if you asked her out on a date you should absolutely pay. If a guy asked me to go out on a date and then asked me to pay that would be kinda shocking. My boyfriend paid for me when we first got to know each other but now we've been together for a year and we take turns paying. It's just being polite, that's all.
@Thisisstephypotter fair enough, but don't you think that's a little bit easy for you to say? We all know girls generally aren't expected to ask guys out, so you still won't end up paying for the first date.
I realize it's a polite gesture, but why aren't you concerned with being polite to the guy?
@Kirah I don't know I just feel like it's on the same boat as If a guy and girl are walking on a road the guy walks closer to the road, or if a girls carrying something heavy offer to help her, as a courtesy. I understand what you're saying I just disagree because in my eyes a man paying for a first date is just a polite gesture. I wouldn't expect it to always be like that but to start I think so. I would get a bad impression if I was asked on a date and asked to pay. Have you ever asked a girl out on a first date and asked the girl to pay?
I split the bill with my boyfriend on the first dates. I understand why you like chivalry, but the one-sided chivalry that you're into is unfair to the guy.
It is not on the same boat , as the phyiscial aspects you mentioned. That is just human nature. Man wants to protect woman. Money, well everyone makes money. One way I think first dates both should pay each their own. You are getting to know each other. You are not even sure it will work out. So why pay for a maybe? But, What I do , if I ask woman out ill offer to pay.
If the girl doesn't at least offer to pay for her own stuff she ordered (which I would accept) I would think she's only there for the free food, and so that would be the last date. Im not short of a bob or two so its not that I can't pay for her meal. Its just I hate it when its expected. I only enjoy doing it if its not forced and its as a nice gesture.
Girls who demand for the man to pay for her are either elderly women for whom it was the norm, or too immature for any man to date.
If the man is paying then he dictates the rules of the game as in what she eats.
Or how about each party pays their on way, feel each other out, and see where the relationship goes. The de facto assumption/rule that men pay always is just 1 more way that women will blatantly manipulate and exploit men for their own benefit they have no attraction or feelings for. Google "rinsing" or Youtube to see what I'm talking about.
What sounds boring to me is sitting by myself when I'm older and I've been given a finite amount of time to live. And no one gives a shit since your parents and aunts are dead and you have no children. Or losing your marbles and being put in state care to die. Rather then being surrounded by family your children caring for you or their children. Or being sat on a beach watching everyone have a good laugh.
In 2071 it will be. Do you really believe technology will be the same as now by then? I believe old people could support themselves easily by the time.
I agree -- a guy shouldn't be expected to pay for the first date -- he should pay for *every* date.
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Exactly and great take. Women want equality and expect us to pay... huh? WHo the f do they think they are? GET OFF YOUR PEDESTAL GIRLS AND WELCOME TO EQUALITY.
I-3 are true and desirable. The rest is stereotyping nonsense.
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Some guys actually do want to get married and have a family and will wait until marriage to have sex (both being virgins). Not everyone wants to slut it up with people who have been around the block many times.
A lot of girls keep saying that if the guy asked out the girl then he should pay. Well then, I ask you, what if the girl asked out the guy? Should she have to pay the whole thing?
Lol I always pay for my dates it's what a real man should do otherwise he just shouldn't go on dates period. And even into my relationships I still pay. I like to take care of my woman granted she's a good one.
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I have no idea why going dutch on the first date is such a foreign concept. Each pays for their own and no one will feel used and no one will date for a free meal or entertainment. People should try it.
Actually I believe that the guy usually pays for the first date since he's THE ONE WHO ASKED U OUT... But in general I hate when people pay for thing for me so I always pay my own way no matter the situation
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Why marry a woman, who thinks only about herself :o? What's the point?
@Unit1 not to u but the woman cone herself
This is the most bizarre thing I've ever read. I believe a guy should pay for the first date especially if he asked her to go out, but all the other things that you claim are true about me are absolutely not.
Why should the guy in particular pay?
@Kirah one of the comments below said it best it's a polite gesture to show the woman you're interested in her and if you asked her out on a date you should absolutely pay. If a guy asked me to go out on a date and then asked me to pay that would be kinda shocking. My boyfriend paid for me when we first got to know each other but now we've been together for a year and we take turns paying. It's just being polite, that's all.
@Thisisstephypotter fair enough, but don't you think that's a little bit easy for you to say? We all know girls generally aren't expected to ask guys out, so you still won't end up paying for the first date.
I realize it's a polite gesture, but why aren't you concerned with being polite to the guy?
@Kirah I don't know I just feel like it's on the same boat as If a guy and girl are walking on a road the guy walks closer to the road, or if a girls carrying something heavy offer to help her, as a courtesy. I understand what you're saying I just disagree because in my eyes a man paying for a first date is just a polite gesture. I wouldn't expect it to always be like that but to start I think so. I would get a bad impression if I was asked on a date and asked to pay. Have you ever asked a girl out on a first date and asked the girl to pay?
@Kirah I'm just curious to see how that went if you've experienced it in real life. Like how did the girl react?
@Thisisstephypotter FYI I'm heterosexual, I don't date women.
I split the bill with my boyfriend on the first dates. I understand why you like chivalry, but the one-sided chivalry that you're into is unfair to the guy.
It is not on the same boat , as the phyiscial aspects you mentioned. That is just human nature. Man wants to protect woman. Money, well everyone makes money. One way I think first dates both should pay each their own. You are getting to know each other. You are not even sure it will work out. So why pay for a maybe? But, What I do , if I ask woman out ill offer to pay.
If the girl doesn't at least offer to pay for her own stuff she ordered (which I would accept) I would think she's only there for the free food, and so that would be the last date. Im not short of a bob or two so its not that I can't pay for her meal. Its just I hate it when its expected. I only enjoy doing it if its not forced and its as a nice gesture.
Girls who demand for the man to pay for her are either elderly women for whom it was the norm, or too immature for any man to date.
If the man is paying then he dictates the rules of the game as in what she eats.
Or how about each party pays their on way, feel each other out, and see where the relationship goes. The de facto assumption/rule that men pay always is just 1 more way that women will blatantly manipulate and exploit men for their own benefit they have no attraction or feelings for. Google "rinsing" or Youtube to see what I'm talking about.
While I don't agree with all your reasons, I do agree it shouldn't always be guys. What's the harm in splitting the pay or trading off?
Agree. These are usually the girls who want gender equality in every aspect except for when it suits them (having things paid for them.)
I'm traditional in the sense I want a family when I grow up. but whats wrong with that?
Sounds VERY boring to me. VERY VERY boring...
What sounds boring to me is sitting by myself when I'm older and I've been given a finite amount of time to live. And no one gives a shit since your parents and aunts are dead and you have no children. Or losing your marbles and being put in state care to die. Rather then being surrounded by family your children caring for you or their children. Or being sat on a beach watching everyone have a good laugh.
When I'm like...80 you mean?
In 2071 it will be. Do you really believe technology will be the same as now by then? I believe old people could support themselves easily by the time.
No I believe that countries and governments hold back technology and have things already made in advance
That unless your rich or influential then you get none of it.
Like a time machine?
No technology, health care, anything really. Hell that's what it's like with gold
Nothing wrong with that! He's not questioning that, he's questioning gold digging
I agree -- a guy shouldn't be expected to pay for the first date -- he should pay for *every* date.
Exactly and great take. Women want equality and expect us to pay... huh? WHo the f do they think they are? GET OFF YOUR PEDESTAL GIRLS AND WELCOME TO EQUALITY.
Expecting is the bad thing-accepting, ok, cool. But expecting, nope, wrong-male or female.
I-3 are true and desirable.
The rest is stereotyping nonsense.
Some guys actually do want to get married and have a family and will wait until marriage to have sex (both being virgins). Not everyone wants to slut it up with people who have been around the block many times.
A lot of girls keep saying that if the guy asked out the girl then he should pay. Well then, I ask you, what if the girl asked out the guy? Should she have to pay the whole thing?
I refuse to date a woman who doesn't allow me to pay.
This is interesting
*cough* control freak
@Touchmehxx Watch me give two shits.
This might be the stupidest thing I have ever read. Grow a pair, its not that hard to pay for one date.
You say it's not hard to pay for one date. Let her pay for it then
Lol I always pay for my dates it's what a real man should do otherwise he just shouldn't go on dates period. And even into my relationships I still pay. I like to take care of my woman granted she's a good one.
That's sexist
@Touchmehxx lol stupid child
I gotta pay on the first date? Excuse me while i go to thw bathroom and never return
Man this is becoming a dead horse topic already. We get it.