Why I'm Giving Up On Dating and Finding a Wife: Love is Dead (Page 2)
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Girls only really care about money when they are looking for someone to get married to, buy a house, and raise kids with. They don't expect a millionaire but they do typically expect the guy to make between 20-50% more than they do.
However, when they are young and in their sexual exploration phase they aren't really interested in responsibilities and sacrifices that acompany serious relationships/marriage. During this phase, they don't give a fuck about how much money a guy has and instead focus on guys who are hot and fun to hang out with/go to parties with.
There are plenty of guys who can get girls to willingly send them naked pictures and spread their legs without having to spend a dime or even commit to them. If you are sexually attractive and have good social skills, then you don't need money to attract girls.
Yeah but the guys who get those women are usually tall jacked assholes, psycho bad boys/thugs and six pack pretty boys who are players. Its usually down to genetics.
You don't really understand what women want. The most important thing in a man is not his wealth or hotness. It's his ambition and his confidence. You'll never be attractive to every girl, but you can be attractive to a large enough number of them if you have those two qualities. Blaming women's progress in the workforce or a few gold diggers here and there is a cop out. You're just making excuses to make yourself feel better about your choice to abstain from women. If that is your choice then that's fine. Just don't lie to yourself in the process
Didn't you write a question saying women don't like ambitious men just the after effect of men who are ambitious.
@BubbleBoy69 nope
NEVER blame the opposite gender. But DO blame the system. If it wasn't rigged and corrupt and a big fucking mess, we wouldn't be suffering from large amounts of unemployment and instability which is a big factor to all of this in the first place. And with all those problems it only further made things difficult on finding and holding a stable job to even maintain and sustain a relationship or even a marriage and a family.
I do have to agree that NOT every single woman on the planet are gold diggers.
But if he is really that concerned about being ripped off, then he should just save all of his money as much as possible for things that he actually needs, save it for retirement or something, because once someone has become single for so long it will become very hard to impossible to ever have a relationship, thus no traditional family or children to support them when they are all on their own.
All depends on what your priorities and goals really are.
Dude you're wrong. My boyfriend has no job and no money and he is overweight but I am still with him! You know why? Because I LOVE him and know I won't get the same bubbly and glowing feeling with anyone else. I am engaged to him and we will be getting married as soon as I turn 18. He told me that I am marrying a poor man, but I told him that we are rich in soul and rich in love and that is all we need :) he is going to be 22 once I'm 18 <3 I don't know which girls you're talking to, but it seems like the only problem you have is you're looking at the hot thots who wear too much makeup and are OBVIOUSLY gold diggers! You're not going for the average girls or ugly Betties. You're looking at the models and you're getting mad once you can't get your dick wet because they're married and won't send you a titty pic xD
You better find a good job and learn CPR...
@zagor were both working on it and why do I need to know CPR?
He's gonna have a heart attack
Who’s paying for your wedding?
Good stuff here. I feel very similar. The main difference is that I am too shy and afraid of rejection to even approach women. And lots of insecurities. So I am 26 and the most I ever received from a girl is a goodbye hug for like 1 second at the end of high school. There was another myTake here called "How to Avoid Bad Women" with pretty good stuff in it. Check it out. One thing that bothers me is how parents often don't understand or don't want to accept the fact that their son thinks this way or is going his own way. My parents and even grandparents keep pushing me to find a girlfriend no matter what I say to them. Annoying.
I read everything you wrote, and it looks like your game is sorely in need of revision.
You have tried a lot of things. The one thing I did NOT see that you tried was looking for Indicators Of Interest. Walking up to a nice-looking girl in a coffee shop and striking up a conversation for no other reason than she seems like an attractive girl? Not likely the best approach.
Read this (it's great - I know, I wrote it):
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30652-how-when-to-ask-someone-out
And this:
www.amazon.com/Game-Neil-Strauss/dp/0062312979/
I'm done playing some shitty game where the odds are stacked against me.
You're right - they are stacked against you. Totally. That's why I recommended approaching people who might be open to you. But it's your call. Suit yourself. Be happy.
How does this garbage get featured? I guess for clicks...
You can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better, but not having a single date in 15 years means you're obviously doing something wrong, and your self-serving bias isn't doing you any favors. It's not the entirety of the women gender - it's you.
Self Serving Bias - people's tendency to attribute positive events to their own character but attribute negative events to external factors
Sometimes it’s not the guys fault
@TheUglyMan So that makes it okay to put the blame full-stop on half the population that were born as the gender this guy happens to prefer?
@CarpetDenim he’s not blaming women
It's the environment you are exposing your self to. If all you date or pursue are women who watch reality shows and closely follow the lives of said celebrities of these shows then that's the problem.
You have to step outside of the box and seek out like minded individuals such as your self. Where there are like minded individuals there are bound to be someone of the opposite sex that feels the same as you do.
Society does indeed play a role in the overtly dramatized lifestyle of sex and beauty. However a REALIST knows that it is all for the camera that REAL PEOPLE have REAL expectations.
So seek out REALIST rather than WORLDLY women.
I should also add I am a black female and I in no way conform to these character traits you have described.
I'd suggest immediately ditching women who even in the slightest resemble these traits. It doesn't matter if their a friend or not. You need to get into the habit of surrounding your self with people who view the world as you do.
That requires uprooting your self from certain environments.
Very good point miss PMR, sometimes a real change requires an uproot and putting yourself where you belong. Exciting too
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Pointless memes really, cannot come up with anything constructive to say. shouldn;t have bothered, it is the same old story and complaints because it is does basically sum up women.
"There is no more love nowadays. Women don't love anymore. They simply shop around on Facebook for a good deal."
YOU ARE NOT ALONE:
WE ARE HAVING AN EFFECT:
This is old news kid. I'm more surprised that you just now found out, and I'm not surprised at all.
You're right on for the most part. Times have changed and so has society's values. In older times women and men actually NEEDED each other. It was much harder for one to live without the other. However, now that technology and society have evolved being with another person is more of a want/desire. Both women and men can now live 100% independently. This means that instead of women having to 'settle' for a man that's 'ok', they all can chase after their dream top tier 1% man.
They want a man that's already at the top, instead of being with the guy that's working his way there.
As the world is moving forward some things are going to be left behind, love is just one of those things.
"This is old news kid," dude's older than you.
There is so much wrong with what you said. You are labeling all women negatively. You say no women cook they just make frozen microwave dinners. Who says women should do all the cooking and cleaning. Why do you think women just want money and or looks when there are plenty of women who want more than just those things. Being from Michigan is no excuse i am a fellow Michigander born an raised. I have a girlfriend of a little over 3 years. I do not have lits of money or I am not overly good looking.
But you are a lucky dude haha. Congrats man, and good on you for being a decent human being.
Marriage is not for everyone. It seems like you are too young and not ready for it, because a lot of what you wrote is very immature. Take a break from dating and don't think about women at all. Work on yourself, have fun in different ways that do not involve trying to find a wife. When you approach something with such a negative mindset and expect the worst of course it is not going to work out. Dating is supposed to be fun. You are taking it way too seriously. You are young, go, have fun, dont take it too serious and overanalyze it. Becoming bitter about women or dating won't help you. Relax a bit, have fun being single, the right girl just might fall for your smile and genuine good energy. Your obsession with money is getting in the way for sure. I've never cared who makes more money, me or the guy, and I never will. Many other girls I know are the same, so you are focusing on all the wrong ones.
Dating use to be fun but this generation is all about instant gratification
@TheUglyMan well if you view everyone as 'this generation' instead of focusing on each person individually of course you will be disappointed. Happy marriages still exist even in this generations, you just choose to ignore it to keep feeding your misery. guys like you wouldn't have a good marriage anyway, because marriage takes work. if you can't work on making yourself less bitter and just focusing on the right person, of course the marriage doesn't stand a chance.
Option 1
Step 1: Lift.
Step 2: Do what it takes to get a high paying job.
Step 3: Nut and Chuck women at will.
Option 2
Step 1: Grow impenetrable skin, pursue women like your life depends on it until you find "the one"
Step 2: Pray every day she doesn't take your, House, Kids, Retirement from you.
Step 3: Burn out, Midlife crisis, die early due to stress of providing and it never being good enough for your wife.
Option 3
Step 1: Give up on women
Step 2: Hire prostitutes.
Step 3: Be wealthy, entertained, well traveled and lonely.
Option 4
Step 1: Win the relationship lottery.
Step 2: Winning.
Step 3: Grats you won.
Hmm tough call between option 1 and 4.
@BubbleBoy69 lol ya, you could work on number 1 and 4 at the same time.
ehhhh.. #4 is essentially expecting to win the lottery as your retirement plan.
I mean it does happen every day but odds are kinda relative to the population, so your odds are pretty damn low. No one gets married thinking "their" wife is the monster that will ruin their life after all.
But it had to be on the list because it does happen from time to time, even if incredibly rarely.
I'm sorry about your experiences dude, but love isn't dead, and it's not right to blame everything on the girls. Almost everyone seems to be less willing to put in the effort these days. But love is still out there. In fact, after everyone here has gone, love will still live on.
All this being said, good luck in the rest of your life. I hope you find happiness eventually. If not from love, then from other things.
Relationships and dating aren't for everyone, and if they want to give up, truly give up, then they will. It all comes down to what your goals and objectives are, and what your priorities are. I personally think it's really all worth the risks if somebody is serious about having a family of their own someday and raising a traditional family otherwise, it can either be delayed as long as possible or avoided completely altogether if they aren't fully up for dating or establishing a relationship with anyone else. I still believe it's BETTER to call it quits completely on dating, sex, relationships, etc. than be someone that sleeps around with other people for fun, but that's just me.
And I can agree with that. It's better to give up than to be that kind of person. No sense in going on if you're not going to try. I just wish more people cared nowadays.
This is why I love you :)
Awe thank you 😊 That was really sweet
I love you too 😊
@true_love_lover18
it's hard to try when someone don't feel or think dating, relationships or even sex really matters anymore. I know I don't feel it really matters anymore. The odds of finding single ladies that don't want kids and don't have them are very slim, and even if I were able to find one specifically just for that one thing that we would both had agree on and is on the same page on, everything else could be completely different and it makes it virtually impossible for it to work and we'd be back to square one. It's even more impossible for someone that has been single for more than 30 years.
At this point I figure finances and saving for retirement is all that matters since I already long given up on love, dating, relationships, etc. I can easily relate to those that are legit about calling it quits, but the difference is that I don't blame the opposite gender, I just think that there really is no point unless you really really want to raise a family and take risks for it
You may be right. I don't have interest in kids or marriage, so maybe I have no chance. I'm not ready to give up though. But I respect your choice.
@true_love_lover18
the more I thought deeper about the whole thing with mating and procreation the more unhappy and depressed I became. I seem to believe that the reality of it is that "there is no love", rather it's just the work of hormones in our bodies trying to complete it's objectives of getting us to procreate and mate, because if it wasn't for that within us all then we'll eventually die out. But then I analyze even further and deeper and realized that no matter what we do or don't do we still die no matter what, it's just an endless cycle of coming into this kind of a world where people are exposed to harm and suffering and then they inevitably die. Deep and existential. Why and why in anyone's right mind would ever want to come here at all if they had ever known about this? And then that's when I realize I just can't agree with pursuing anyone anymore, what is the point of love when I know that it's "just there" to keep us from dying out, and yet we still die no matter what.
Love is dead the rest is spot on though
@TheUglyMan Pretty much. It's all but illusions and delusions more than anything else.
Have you tried being jacked, alpha and fun?
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You know the old saying "girls just want to have fun and get fucked really good"
That guy reminds me of Zyzz
Physique can be great but facial symmetry is much more important than physique since I have seen skinny guys with good looks get more girls than average looking guys with muscle.
Just get money and stop being a lazy cunt
he's right tho get buff make gains and get pussy... maybe consider marriage until much later in life 40's maybe live life first tho
Sometimes you put yourself in a theoretically winning position, and fixing yourself. Only to realise that when you reach your goal, the major problem was never that in the first place, and that your faults are way beyond how jacked or not you look.
@mikemx55 A lot of Gay guys are "jacked"
@Aqualung What? was that for me?
@mikemx55 no, bro, it reminded of my gay cousin and his crew. They're all jacked and handsome, well groomed - I always think what a waste of a male. They could have any chick they want, and get laid like crazy. They all look like they stepped off the cover of GQ or Men's Fitness.
So apparently I have to be fitness expert to get a single date? Let me guess I should be alpha too?
Pass, they need to curb unrealistic expectations.
This gen doesn't care about mass, front to back thickness. Just being ripped.
My only issue with this Take is that you aren't really reflecting on your own actions. Not all women are the way you describe. Maybe you need to date within your circle? But there are women looking for love and I'm one of them. And we're in the same boat as you so please don't group us all together like that because a lot of the things you stated men are just as guilty of doing as well.
You're a big boy, and I respect your decisions. If you say that you've done everything, then I believe you. All I want to ask is what you are doing to excite the women? In my experience, women definitely like the money and all that, but even more than that, they like guys who wants to take them on an adventure. Women basically want a guy who is working towards something that she feels like she can play a big part of something bigger than herself.
It doesn't need to be a physical destination, but she might want to be along for the ride when he starts a small business, or whatever.
I genuinely believe that it is every woman's desire to be a man's perfect companion. She might not know what that looks like... she probably has no clue, actually, but she WILL know it when she sees it.
I don't know what kind of horrible relationships you've been through, but it's not all doom and gloom. Shopping for relationships happens with basic bitches who don't respect anything. You need real, honest women in life.
Also, call us religiously crazy, there is something to say for marriage stability and religion. There is an added amount of respect merely because of the upbringing/environment. We may be a bunch of nut jobs, but for individuals who attend church, the divorce rate plummets to 25%. You want an old-fashioned relationship, you gotta go where there's still old-fashioned people.
Oh cry me a river. As usual you weaklings only see your own problems and from your own point of view, you never even stop to think, if maybe all men aren't that great either and maybe, just maybe, women are different from each other. They problem actually is you, maybe it's your personality, maybe it's the way you present yourself, maybe it's the kind of women you approach, I don't know, but the problem is you.
No one feels sorry for you, crying about how horrible it is to be you won't help.
All us men ask is for you to stop being a whore... whys it so hard for you?
Irony. Not all women are that way, all men are. This is why we have the issues we do.
@hellionthesagereborn Men can never be whores because sex for a man is mutual and is offered to women. For a women there is always a price us men have to pay whether its money, exchange or some other form of currency she demands. I hope that makes sense for your mangina brain.
@hellionthesagereborn I bet your one of those brainwashed male feminists... only they speak like you do. Your part of the gynocentric problem mate.
@Mrwoo99 Clearly you did not bother reading what was stated. I was pointing out her statement was absurd. I am not stating this she stated it I was pointing out that this idea was what the problem is. Clearly you have never read anything I have ever written on this site because no one has ever accused me of being a feminist. In fact not one person would ever suggest that. Get your head out of your ass and actually read what was written instead of acting on impulse. Read it again without your impulsive response and you will see that I was criticizing her not agreeing.
@hellionthesagereborn look my bad yeah. I just can't tell on here because there is so many mangina's and white knights been attacking me so am still in defence mode. Think of it it this way; your a unidentified knight approaching my castle.
@Mrwoo99 Maybe you'll be alone forever because you hold misogynistic view on women.
@hellionthesagereborn I never stated all men are one way.
I rather be alone than be in a relationship with a whore. Am not a misogynist, am a truth seeker and the truth is women are mercenaries and only fuck the highest bidder. Women are naturally programmed that way.
Typical irrational female response ' am a misogynist or bitter an blah blah blah'. You can't argue my facts becuase women can't fathom anything logically.
@Mrwoo99 That's like if I said all men are weak-willed, spineless, sexist pussies, but luckily that only applies to a few pathetic specimens, like yourself.
In all honesty, there are lots of great men out there, it's a loss to no woman that you're not on the market, we won't miss you.
ignore this precious entitled femnazi princess. Cry me a river that men treat women so bad. It is filth like you that causes it.
You want to be gay or single, good for you. No need to inflict that decision on others. We don't care.
Opinion owner How constuctive , why did you even post an opinion?
@Djaaaaaay because he didn't post a question, just a pointless rant. And it's counter productive to users on this website. And no one cares if some loser gives up on dating, he doesn't need our permission to go suck a dick.
@Belgie that "pointless rant" is what happens when your girlfriend disappears than begins parading all the men she has fucked IN MULTIPLE STATES IN A SPAN OF 4 DAYS in front of you online.
I bet you wouldn't be questioning my masculinity and telling me to suck a dick if you come to my city and say it directly to my face, wouldn't you?
Of course I would.
Not when i'm beating your skull in with an iron baseball bat...
Sure, keyboard warrior. Keep thinking that.
Keyboard warrior? Don't think i would do it in real life. Because i would, with your coward private profile troll ass
Of course you would. Now excuse me, while I go shit myself in terror.
Wow* speaking of dicks... looks like you have finally evolved into one. Dont worry tho, someone will eventually shove you up someone ass.
Opinion owner This here with all this anger pointed at each other , is why men don't seem to think bonding with each other is benificial. This is the way , that those who oppose men have krept in between us to pit us against each other. we need to bond together instead and stay strong together so this doesn't happen. Not interested. ?