Folks, who do you think should pay on the first date? If the girl picks the place to eat, does it mean that the girl is the one who's gonna pay? In this case, the guy is asking the girl where she wants to eat and then the girl picks the place. Thanks
Oh also if both of them agreed to see a movie after lunch/dinner and they guy already booked the seats online, is that a sign for the girl to pay the bill without splitting?
I've paid and tipped for ever breakfast, lunch, and dinner date I've been on. Just the kind of guy I am. I like being protective and feeling like I'm taking care of someone I love. It just seems like a gentleman-like gesture to me. I love it.
I think the girl should always pay, despite what cultural norms say. A guy having the courage to ask her out and arrange one is a lot of stress and fear of rejection, especially for shy guys. It's a real compliment to a girl to be asked out. It should be the right thing to do. I know I'll get flak for this.
Oh, come on. We all know that a girl would freak out if a guy didn't pay. Especially, on the first date. I still pay for almost everything and I've been dating my girlfriend forever, so just suck it up and pay guys. It's not that hard.
While it's true that the role of the alpha male is to provide for the weaker and more dependent sex, its generally better to separate the act of prostitution from dating. this is because if an alpha provides for a whore he is almost guaranteed sex but if he pays for a meal, there's no certainty that the woman will spread her legs. Over a long-term relationship however it's acceptable to pay for a woman provided she performing a domestic role, nurturing for the alpha males offspring and producing a hospitable environment for the young alpha (males) to be raised in. This way, a serviceable act is being done for society and the prostitute's bastard beta males can be raised to be gentlemen that buy drinks and expensive meals from women that won't bang tho.
If you ask someone to spare their time, the polite thing to do is to pay to show your appreciation.
When one party asks out another, the interaction is not 50/50. One person is attracted, while the other one is unsure, but decides to give it a shot to see where this goes, so I find the expectation of splitting the bill to be in poor taste when manners are concerned.
That being said, my expectation for a first date is going out for coffee and talking so you can actually get to know the person. So if a guy asks me out for coffee, then requests £2 for the bill - that's a rude fucking cheapskate, who has a chip on his shoulder over equality.
When I asked men out, I paid the full bill, because it was ME who was interested, while they were giving me a shot.
Splitting the bill makes sense when the attraction is mutual. If you agree to a second date, you better get your wallet ready.
I would prefer having the person who asked out the other pay, but the truth of the matter is that most girls today still outright refuse to make the first move themselves. That makes the situation a bit unfair, and men still end up paying all the time.
But since I almost always make the first move, I tend to pay for the first date.