It's a first date. It's basically an interview. The man applying for a job, and the woman as the interviewer. Do you pay an interviewer's lunch if you want to get a job? No. You got up there and see how it goes.
This is a stranger. Men have to shotgun to find a woman that's interested in them. Both are making an investment that maybe this will turn into something more. It sets the stage for the whole relationship. BOTH are making the decision to see where it goes. How hard is it? Pay for your own shit.
I'd never pay for a strangers food. I'm expected to be self-sufficient; I expect you to be self-sufficient. Too much to ask?
Honestly. I really don't understand why this is such a hard concept for everyone. It's a STRANGER. The only reason you're paying for her meal is because she has a vagina. Not because she means anything to you. Not because she is a friend. No. It's an investment on her pussy.
It sets the stage for the whole relationship. The statement of paying is this. "I am a man. I can provide for you, and I will." The statement of a woman not paying for her own shit is, "I am a weak and dependent woman who requires a strong man to take care of me. So show me. Are you capable of providing for me?" The statement of both paying for their own shit--as reason would suggest they do-- is "We are both independent and self-sufficient: perhaps we would both work best together."
I'm not paying for some random woman's meal, just because she gave me the courtesy of *being in her presence*. "Your queen shall indulge your company insofar as you provide some entertainment and food, serf." No way. I have way too much pride for that. I'm not into that 1950s shit.
I think that whomever invites someone out should do the paying. I like to take turns with my partner on planning dates. It's nice to be treated to dinner every once and a while. I don't see why any one person should be doing it all the time.
However, if one person is making significantly more money than the other, they should be paying for the majority of the expenses. It just makes sense.
It depends. If she believes that women should also stick to female gender roles then it isn't sexist. That is simply a division of labor. If however she thinks gender roles for women should be abolished but thinks men should remain in ours then yes that is very sexist.
Women need to pick a side. Either act like a traditional woman, or act like a modern woman and pay your own way. This mix and mix thing they are doing is incredibly sexist towards men. You don't get to hide under the excuse that it is the gentleman thing to do, and then not act like a lady yourself.
The idea about whoever asks should pay is nonsense. A date is a mutual agreement, and not about one person paying for the other persons time. On a date both people should put in the same amount of effort.
The person asking the other person out is the one handling the bill. I will certainly pay all expenses incurred during the date. From dinner, spas, tickets to shopping (hopefully nobody will ask for shopping on 1st date) if I am asking her out.
If the guy asks the girl out then he better pull out his wallet like a proper man.
If the gal is asking the guy out then she better be prepared to suffer the damages.
There are women who would setup their dating profiles to lure guys in for free fine dinning experience. A dining table for 2 can ring anywhere between $100 to $500 on average... not the ultra high class ones. I think I read that somewhere...
I don't care about what anybody says.. I pay for the first date because it's the gentleman thing to do. If people want to call me a sissy for opening the door to anyone, not just the women, and pulling the chair for my date, then so be it.
Lol what the hell is with the "whoever asked the other one out should pay" cra P the women are spewing. Surely they can comprehend the guy sets up the date the overwhelming majority of the time especially especially so at the beginning of a relationship? I guess not
I was cool with paying for the first date until it took me 12 first dates to finally get a second date (which eventually lead to my current girlfriend). With each date ending with a "You're such a nice guy. I'm glad we're friends" or "I can't wait for the next date" only to be completely ghosted.
Of course he should pay, but what's sexy about that?
I think it's sexist. Of course I offer to pay each and every time but, if a woman doesn't offer to pay her share, then I immediately lose all respect for her. The only reason I pay is because the cultural norm is that most girls still expect a guy to pay and are quite vocal about how a guy who dosen't pay is cheep, a shitty date, ungentlemanly etc. What guy wants to be mislabeled? So although I don't agree with the norm I will still pay. If the girl hasen't offered to pick up her tab I loose respect for her. I do not expect anyone to pay for me- even if they ask me out. If my buddy said lets go for dinner and I didn't pay my own way he woulden't be my buddy for long. Besides men are still expected by the majority to ask, and even tho some women are grown up enough and do some of the asking, the majority still do not. In the end of a woman isn't willing to pay for her share than it shows that she isn't willing to stand up and shoulder her share of responsibility in the modern world. And yet often the same women scream and cry about equality. Well time to stand up and be equal.
You asking this on site filled with bitter women filled with hate towards men lol what you expected
Ha, most women say no, that figures, what hypocrites.
Sexist no. An asshole move yeah. I feel like if you're an adult you should never assume someone else is going to pay for you.
I wouldn't say it's sexist, or thinking that men should pay for us because they're the superior sex. It does make a girl look pretty entitled if she expects her boyfriend to always pay for her, though.
If we want equality, it should apply in all respects. Not just when convenient, or when a female may be being wronged.
I believe whoever asked for the date should pay for the date. For example, freshman year of college I asked this guy out and when it came time to pay I'm the one who pulled out my wallet first. He refused to let me pay though despite my efforts at the register. It was very sweet of him and definitely won him a LOT of brownie points. And on all the dates that I've been on, I've always offered and asked to pay for at least my share.
It's not sexist but I'd not expect it. I feel lucky if anyone wants to spend time with me so I'll always make sure to give them money towards it and half it or if it's a bar, I'll buy them drinks back etc... just seems fair...
NOPE , his broke behind better bring that cash out. I'll order a nice hot fudged sundae and throw it all over him and his attire. Don't invite me on a date by your choice and don't pay for my food. I don't play.