I see far to many questions about the "friendzone" and how men are at such a dissadvantage when asking women out. I do not find this to be true whatsoever. Before my wife and I got together I used to get rejected! She used to get rejected too! IT'S PART OF LIFE AND BEING AN ADULT. Aproaching women is not that hard, if you are polite she will be polite right back, it's human nature. Every time I was rejected it was done with respect and sensitivity, because I appraoched with respect. Everyone gets rejected at some point and I don't understand what you whiny little men want? Would you seriously want a girl to pretend and pity date you? Because guess what, no matter how much guilt you lay on, no matter how many tantrums you throw a person can not force themselves to fall for you even if they wanted to! Either they are into you or they are not, stop whining and try again! Don't stalk people who reject you and call them shit like "friendzoning whores" and act like a complete brainless man-child, move the fuck on with your life! Why do so many men on this site think women are evil just for having a choice in who they date? Everyone deserves a choice, if you get rejected let it go and try someone else it's really sick, pathetic, and sad the way men throw little baby tantrums on here. I bet you the girl who rejected you has been rejected herself at some point! It's a part of life not everyone has to automatically love you just because you will throw a fit if they don't! I am tired of this childish mindset so to the friendszone complaining babymen of GirlsAskGuys: GROW THE FUCK UP. And this is coming from a happily married man, I got rejected, we all do. I took it like an adult every time and eventually I found the person who was into me too and we fell in love. Be patient, respect a woman's right to make choices for her self, and drop the entitled toddler attitude.
Oh I agree with this! Women are vilified for all preferences, height, race, build... the list is endless. What it really amounts to is someone not being mature enough to just move on gracefully. Women don't owe any guy a date, or even a chance, if they don't feel anything to start with.
Ah, thank you! I agree with you, it has a lot to do with the attitude and how the person presents themselves. As humans, we all have flaws. It's about not focusing on that, but the positive so you let another person see your positives.
What is your goal in dating? Does getting bitter about rejections help you to achieve that goal? As men, we pride ourselves on being logical, so apply some logic to this situation.
You make a choice before you ever ask a girl out. You see some chick and you're not attracted so you don't pay any attention to her. You ask out the ones you want to. This dude is right; do you really want a girl to go out with you because she feels obligated and the whole time she's with you, she'd rather be somewhere else? FTS! But he is also wrong about one thing: every rejection isn't polite and respectful.
Still, when a girl says "no," she just saved you from wasting your time and money. Okay, you didn't get the one you wanted and rejection always hurts. I know because I have been rejected many, many times. But I have also had girls say yes when I expected a rejection.
Dating is like going fishing. You cast out your line and sometimes you get a nibble or a bite, sometimes you don't. Sometimes, you get surprised. If you go fishing one day and you don't get any bites, you can get pissed off at the fish, but that probably won't improve your fishing techniques.
Do whatever you want, stay pissed off if you want but if you really want to date women, you need to get over it.
I think there is a certain misunderstanding about the friendzone. Friendzoning is not when a girl rejects a guy. Friendzoning is when a person A (of either gender) strings along person B who has feelings for A. They do it KNOWING that B has feelings for them, but they insist on maintaining a friendship. Perhaps some naively hope that the feelings will fade. Perhaps they're insensitive and just relish in the attention.
Either way, friendzoning is not rejecting. It's stringing along knowingly or perhaps unknowingly.
You can respect someone's right to make a particular choice, without respecting the choice itself. Likewise, just because someone believes that he deserves something, that doesn't necessarily mean that he believes that he is entitled to it. Maybe you personally do think that you are entitled to everything you deserve.
Some men are impolite. But, so are some women, despite what you say. Women have free will too. Politeness is not 'human nature'. Nor is impoliteness.
No. Women do not experience rejection much. And some women never experience rejection. Rejection is when one makes a clear offer and is refused. It is not rejection to wait around to be approached and then not to get approached. One wouldn't say that one was rejected for a job for which one never applied! And, even among women who have actually been rejected, very few have experienced what many men have experienced, which is not getting offers from any of the opposite sex.
I've been rejected over 15 times and not one has said yes, even when I was respectful I've been mocked (have a type of alopecia and shave my head) so I think some of us have a right to wonder about our hands, yes I've got high standards looks wise but hey, I'd rather die alone than settle, I'd give a girl my all and I'm not giving up, still 15 and nothing close to yes, it wears on you.
A lot of men want that power and feel no women should ever be able to choose anything and match any of their choices.. those kinds of men have bigger ego's then Tom Brady and the rest of the team that cheated with him to win a playoff football game.. and they got very little or no punishment for doing it
They don't understand that a rejection just means that the guy is not compatible with the girl or vice versa. It sucks but bitching about it won't change anything. People need to search for people they are compatible with because when you meet someone you really connect with all those past rejections fade away from your memory.
I don't whine at all when I get rejected but maybe someone who isn't already married at 21 can preach to us, yes? I'm sure you've been turned down before but I doubt you've been turned down 20 or 30 times in a row so don't come at this like you know what we 'should' feel. You haven't got a clue what it is like.
"Aproaching women is not that hard, if you are polite she will be polite right back"
I have never approached a girl ever, and I've never had a girlfriend. It's because approaching is hard knowing that I'm a typical nice guy who says "sorry" to every little thing that goes wrong. I also just lack communication skills, so I know if I try, I'll fail horribly.
It's not a great feeling when you only know rejection. I never had any women accept me for who I am. I never had a friend who was a woman. Now because of this you start to wonder what is wrong with you and what is right with the guy she is with. You start to blame the way you look and now you got another problem to deal with.
It's hard to find a solution when you are not sure what the problem is. I didn't know I was color blind until I was 21.
So things worked out for you so the rest of us just aren't man enough? There are many guys who are tired of always being rejected. Because when 80% of guys are seen as below average value, the average guy gets screwed. I've never heard a guy say women shouldn't have choices- that's your assumptive projection. Guys just wish that girls would choose them rather than never being cool enough or attractive enough. But I guess since things worked out for you the rest of us are a bunch of crybabies right? We have no idea what we are experiencing. Good thing we have someone who is so much smarter than us to set us straight.
It's part of life and being an adult?
Fucking laughable. Your whole thread screams feminism
Happily married man- at the age of 21? "Eventually"? And you think you have the slightest clue what 'rejection' is? What are you spouting off about- getting rejected by your first choice at junior prom? How freaking whiny and condescending are you? "Every time I was rejected it was done with respect and sensitivity, because I apprOAched with respect." Riiight. Just like you're approaching this topic with respect now. You sound like a would-be white knight blowing the trumpet to try and go out on a crusade, when there's no-one to crusade against. GROW THE FUCK UP, junior. If you are polite, she will NEVER be polite back. EVER. You think that girl you're with now's in love with you? Dream on.
"Aproaching women is not that hard, if you are polite she will be polite right back, it's human nature."
No that's just your experience and your experience does not govern all men and their experiences. Plenty of guys have been very polite about their approaches and were told things much worse than a simple "no."
Do a lot of these friendzone guys need to get over themselves? Yes. But so do you.