First date: whoever ASKS is responsible for paying. Other person can certainly offer to pay all or part of the bill and it's perfectly acceptable to accept, but if you invite someone somewhere basic etiquette is that you pay.
After that, should take turns or go dutch, whatever works.
I'm willing to pay my share, but my boyfriend likes to pay for us most of the time. He was that way from the start, and wouldn't let me when I offered on our first date. Handed his card straight to the waiter. I was really touched by his attitude on it actually; I get that fluttery feeling when a guy does something gentleman-like haha. It just came across as a cool blend of caring, thoughtful, and masculine at the same time. He makes a lot more than me though, so he doesn't see it as a big deal, I guess. 😅 I appreciate it in any case.
He should always pay on the first date. Now I should offer to pay because it's only fair, but I expect him to pay. The guys who haven't paid for my dates ended up not being mature and not the guys for me because of other things they've done.
By the way? A date could just be going out and getting coffee together or going to a museum and grabbing a slice afterwords. I don't expect a guy to break the bank for me. After the first date or two, I think it's okay to go dutch or whoever picks the date pays. It's not fair if I invite a guy to something out of his budget and expect him to pay.
In the 21st century, women are capable of making their OWN money so it can be empowering for us to be self-sufficient and pay for ourselves. I don't want to owe him anything. But some women like to be protected, emasculated, taken care of and believe in traditional gender roles.
I have always paid for myself and always will. Even when some of the men get offended and insist. I don't like taking things from practically strangers. It's the beginning stage and we're just getting to know each other, why should they have to pay, so we can get to know each other? It's not like we have been dating for awhile and we both treat each other to things lol
I mean, I can only control what I do, but I hate when people pay for me. Like until I am in an established relationship, everything is split. Even after we're official, I still prefer to split the bill.
No one, go for a god damn walk in the woods or something, Jesus Christ. You don't need to empty a wallet to have a good time. Watch a movie at one of your homes, go to a library, check out a little flea market and look at the trinkets for sale.
The only first date I've ever been on was with my bf/ex and he offered to pay. Its just very chivalrous of the guy to pay, but by no means is he obligated. I could easily have just paid for myself if he wanted me to, but he didn't and I thought that was very sweet of him.
Feminists are NOT in charge. Most women believe in equality but they don't want to dispense with all gender based traditions. The guy should pay for everything unless the women wants to pay; in which case male macho should not interfere with respecting the lady's wishes.
I've noticed I pay a lot more than the first date and sometimes they seem to expect me to pay for everything whenever we go out. That is unfair I think, I already have a gas guzzling truck, no job and no health insurance and now I got to pay for all your shit. I don't see why people can't take turns or split the bills
I want a girl who is willing to pay her share. Otherwise it implies her time is more valuable than mine and that I need to compensate her for agreeing to go out with me.
Its also highly probably that she has exchanged nudes or hooked up with guys in the past who didn't spend a dime on her.
Also if the dates dont lead to anything (sex or a relationship) then I have essentiallyvwasted my money. So I am not willing to pay 100% for dates until after we have already established mutual desire.
I think the fact the women paying isn't even an option here is kind of sad.
It depends. On the first date, as I've said in the past, I always do something cheap or free (coffee/walk along the sea front) to avoid it coming up. I've only once had a negative response to this and to be fair to her she offered to pay for a meal because she didn't want to walk anywhere. Lazy but honest. Turned out to be a surprisingly good date and I think we split the bill. Can't really remember. If she hadn't offered I probably wouldn't have done anything else.
I hate the idea the man has to pay. It even seems common among men. Women have jobs as well you know. If I pick to pay (and I do after date 1 because we talk about it) then it's not because I'm a man. It's because that's a fair way of doing it.
Any woman that goes out on a date and expects the man to pay is stuck in the 50s. If that ever turns out to be your case while on a date, kick her to the curb. Climb out the bathroom window. Why? She's just looking for a free ride off the patriarchy.
I pay for the first date, 2nd date we split the bill, usually on the 3rd date she offers to pay (my experience). After that we basically begin our relationship as boyfriend and girlfriend. Usually helps the fact that I get to know them as a friend before I ask them out.
" feminism always say about ''equality'' ... i wanna know what shit is going inside their heads. " I didn't see even one feminist who discuss about this against women who expect men to pay. Plus some says men should pay cuz we invite them. Thats bullshit. There is a roll in the society that men generally go to girls to meet them. And the first move generally comes from men. You don't have to accept this. İf you accept this then it means when you go with a man then everyone should pay their own bills. This is the true way , equitable way. Otherwise it makes woman a gold digger who have disgusting personality. One Russian girl that I met was huge gold digger and she has disgusting personality. I know not all Russian girls like this. But I really didn't like her at all. She didn't give me anything and expected me to pay the bill. And when I stay next to cash area she went outside of the coffee shop. İt was disgusting. She didn't even tell me "thank you". I said " why didn't you say me at least thank you cuz I paid your bills too." And she said " I never do this ". At this moment I thought she was a bitch and gold digger. I can never date with a woman like this. Those women even can not be friend with me. They are disgusting.