seriously it really f***in' pisses me off, makes me very angry, frustrated, mad, it just makes me want to lose my mind, explode, go bezerk, i hate how or why society, life, culture, has all of these rules, standards, expectations, as to how a "man" is supposed to be, i hate how they expect us guys to toughen it up all the damn time, it's like society, life, culture, has all of these rules, standards, expectations, as to what seperates a boy from a man but never for a girl from a woman, i hate how society, life, culture, expect us guys to always take charge, initiative, control, make things happen, go after what we want, know what we want, be a leader, be decisive, be dominant, strong, have the right attitude, mentality, way of thinking, the right character, the right body-language, have confidence, have a "don't care what girls think of me" attitude, not seek approval or validation from anybody, not be dependent on anybody, seriously it has made me develop a misogynistic attitude towards women, girls, it makes me praise, admire, those guys, men out there who committ domestic violence, beat their wives or girlfriends, because those girls, women, deserve that for making us guys do all the work, carry the whole load, burden upon our shoulders, seriously, i hate the arguments, comments, debates, that say we guys, since we have testosterone we have to be more aggressive, assertive, take charge, go after what we want, that it is in our nature, well i would rather use my balls and testosterone for instigating violence instead of taking charge, initiative, control, going after what i want, leading, being dominant, testosterone obviously makes guys, men naturally more violent, why do you think the vast majority of violent crimes throughout history have been committed by males? why can't we guys use our balls, testosterone for that instead of going after what we want, taking charge, control, initiative, being a leader, being dominant, making things happen, etc.? seriously, i swear, literally have punched a guy's lights out before for telling me to man up, be a man, grow a pair, grow some balls, because those sexist phrases, quotes get so damn annoying, frustrating. i would even love to kill him, but i obviously do not want to get into any legal trouble, go to jail, prison, etc., so i won't do it, but seriously, there just comes a point in a person's life where they just can't take it anymore, they reach the boiling point, the clock ticks nearer, closer to when you just want to explode!, if killing was legalized, i would kill a person for telling me to be a man, man up, grow a pair, grow some balls, expecting me to toughen it up, like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeplxpio2us
I kinda see what you are saying, women, well the majority, want men to have the power, as David DeAngelo refers to it, he says that nice-guys give away their power, how the f*** do real men have the power when women just have to welcome or deny advances? Women have the Final say, that is power
So basically you are saying tha women should be the ones asking guys out because YOU have the power?
What about a little chivalry...or being a gentleman? If there is mutual interest then there is no need to feel powerless or anything...
I don't think guys are helpless...that takes something to ask a girl out. Same for girls who ask guys out. So yeah I disagree & maybe I'm old fashioned but its always nice when guys ask me out. I don't want to always suggest everything...guys that plan dates win points in my book...but that's my personal opinion :)
A real man doesn't need to be in full control all the time. For me a man is someone who can take action and go after what he wants regardless of the outcome. Life is about taking chances and being able to take the good and the bad. You might not always get what you want however you can control how you deal with the end result.
well I guess there are no "real men" in this world only p****** because it takes major balls to approach someone you like and have the potential to get turned down. wimps stand back and let other people move in for them. I give MAJOR probs to ANY guys who apprach girls. good for you :)
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I'm tired of hearing real men do this, real men do that. Yet I know it's natural to look for a good role model to fit or for rules to follow so you can't get it wrong, it's human. I think a real man it's just a real person who's grown up, where grown up means to me that you still value the opinions of others, yet you've discovered you are an OK person without needing to be the person people or society says you should be. I think a real man chases a girl, and a think a real man is chased by girl. A real man who does not chase girls is just someone who's playing a more sophisticated and successful game, playing with people and women's fragile egos, yet a game nonetheless. I do think most adult are adult just in terms of biology and a number saying the age, not in terms of psyche. What annoys me the most is people saying you should do that or this to be a real man, so basically they tell do as I tell you to be a real man, but the irony of it is that to tell someone do as I tell you is to in reality treat them like a puppet. So what I would TELL you, is to look inside you. AT least, this is what I'm trying to do for myself. But I don't feel a real man, so it's my 2 cents.
Being a "real" man isn't decided on who makes the first move of chases the woman. I personally believe it's decided on a few factors.
1) Be fair to everyone- not a brown-noser or suck-up, but instead fair treating everyone with respect
2) Be in control- which doesn't mean you never ask a woman out, it means you take the time to decide whether you want to be in a relationship with this person or just a quick fling, and you know that it's not the end of the world if she says "no". Make sure you can provide for yourself, and your other half or family and are financially stable.
3) Understand the difference between confidence and arrogance. Confidence is knowing where you stand and who your are. Confidence is being sure in yourself. Arrogance is thinking you're better than those who think differently to you and have different opinions. A confident person doesn't have to speak on every topic in conversation, but an arrogant person just has to stick his nose in.
In my personal opinion, I think one day boys grow up and either realize that they have to (to put it crudely) "man up" and sort things out and not worry about getting with as many girls as possible, but instead wait for the woman that they are attracted to and 'take control' by "asking them out", not by humiliating themselves because if they say "no" then as above it's not the end of the world.
Take this as my opinion and think of it what you will.
yeah why do we guys have to approach, talk, speak, use our social-skills, conversation-skills, confidence, to attract girls? why can't we just attract them by fighting it out like male animals do against other male animals, yeah I will admit I've posted this video many times but it just sounds very Alpha of Mr.T, would love to challenge a girl's boyfriend to a fight to try to win the girl over, or just make myself feel like I'm a better man than he is, if I was very physically strong and capable of beating up any girl's boyfriend I wanted to, I would say this in front of her boyfriend:
https://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=bF_iiX1HepM&feature=related
"Real men" don't tell other men they're not "real men" for reasons as senseless as this.
Also, many girls feel the same way about not asking a guy out, so if nobody is asking anyone out, we wouldn't get very far, would we? Putting yourself out there is scary, get over it.
seriously, I hate the standards, traits that girls find attractive in guys, they expect, demand too much from us guys
I can see where you're coming from, but a man is only helpless and powerless if he let's himself become that way... I guess women thing that if the guy chases after them that shows that he wants them enough.. I understand, I can't tell you why it's like that but yeah...
You're a coward, trying to justify the fact that you're too scared to ask a girl out, as being some sort of macho thing.
That's crazy.
If being too afraid to ask a girl out, is how measure yourself as a "real" man, then you must have nothing else you can call yourself a real man about.
Well, my defination of a "real man" is a male who is 18 or over. That group contains one hell of a variety of people with different opinions and beliefs.
I think women ponder the complexities of manhood more than men these days. From what I've observed, a woman's definition of what a "real man" is, is coincidentally good or favourable for her, e.g. "real men approach women" *coughBScough*...
Interesting perspective. I neither agree nor disagree but I like that fact that you think outside the box.
Real men take risks and don't rely on others to make things happen. How does that fit with your theory?
Quit trying to make excuses as to why you are afraid of approaching women. You know its because you are afraid of rejection.
Real men watch p*rn and masturbate,they don't need girls
Well I'd be offended if a guy chased after me with a machete :(
Yes and no. Usually the man deals with rejection graciously and moves on... But that was then and this is now. Problem for most men is not really rejection as per say. But rejection from women who are not worth it...rejection from women who have an over inflated sense of which 'league' they are in. There are better ways of meeting women now than cold approaching, which is something I find very creepy anyway. Move on with the times
I had that viewpoint for years... unfortunately, chicks don't go for it.
Life isn't a movie. There's no such thing as "control". Just remember that Machette doesn't send texts ;p
Real men chase the type of women who has been EARNED and DESERVING to be chased by a man like that for once. When it comes to OTHER women, he shouldn't have to.
No, I disagree
But keep telling yourself that :P
A chivalrous guy is a winner in my opinion, but that's just me :P
real men are the ones who f*** girls so you know, asking or not asking, chasing or not chasing, who gives a f***? Just f*** them already dude
Yes. That is the best technique, please use it more.
Real men tell a women they are going out and don't ask
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