First date and he takes me to hooters?

[Anonymous]

And then expects a second date?

Before we went out he said he knew this good restaurant that we could go to. I don't know if that was supposed to be a joke but I don't think it was funny.
Just why? Out of all the places you could choose, why would you choose hooters to take a girl to?
I thought it was extremley disrespectful

And I thought I made that quite clear actually. When we were there I told him I didn't want a main course just snacks, obviously so I could leave sooner. I didn't let him walk me home or called him after. But apparently it was too subtle because three days later he texted me asking for a second date. Really? What would make him think I'd go out with him again?

[Paris13]

I find this a "Rootin tootin" First date Bomb, sweetie, and I do believe, you should of grew some of your own Big Boobs and told him-----"No way, Jose." There are small cafes and bistros for "snacks and such," and apparently One of you was served a "main course" after all...
As far as "seconds" go, he must really have been impressed with You More than the hotties, for it appears he didn't give a "hoot" about what was on The menu that nite..."Was this for your eyes only?"
It's your choice for his Bad taste in "Eats and sweets," but if you Do decide to give him another taste test, You tell him Next Round what you're "Into" for your Own food for thought.xx

[bubbiexo]

Some guys are totally clueless... That's all there is to it. It's super rude and inconsiderate to take you there... And the food isn't even good so wtf?

Okay so I've heard of guys testing gals before to see how cool they are and shit like that. I think that maybe he was trying to see if you were "down-to-earth" enough to go to a shit hole like that. So then he liked how you didn't throw a fit and wants to see you again? Guy logic. He could have taken you to a dive bar where people are fully clothed and the food is better for the same effect.

What an idiot! Lose his number!!

[Asker]

well maybe I should go on a second date and go to male strip club

[bubbiexo]

Chippendales!!!

[Ferruccio77]

hahahaha, male strip club.. i would really laugh if you pull it off,

[Asker]

Ya I'm thinking I don't really know any places like that but I'm sure there are some in the area

[bubbiexo]

I love all the trashy guys that are give me downvotes. I wonder how many I can get? I said nothing about the women there... I simply think that hooters is a shitty restaurant. Why so much hate?

[bubbiexo]

giving me*

[Asker]

Well as one said apparently they think you and me too are jealous.
They didn't pay attention to what you really said and what you didn't

[bubbiexo]

Yeah... When I said it was rude and inconsiderate I meant that when you're first dating someone, shouldn't you try to take them somewhere nice and be giggly impressive? I would be just as annoyed had he taken you to KFC. But now this will make me a gold digger of course.

[Asker]

I think KFC would have been better, although not great. But hooters is all about the girls, I don't see how anyone think that's a good choice to take your date to?

Their food is just terrible standard junk food, nothing special about

[bubbiexo]

Why the fuck did I type giggly? I meant slightly*** I really don't know:/ like I said, he could've been testing you.

[Asker]

well I failed that test then

[bubbiexo]

Ah well... No loss to you :)

[MasqueradeMassacreTM]

Wow I'm really sorry that happened to you. I really don't know enough to assume if it was a joke or not, but his game is more than a tad bit off, and I agree that was EXTREMELY disrespectful. The fact that you didn't let him walk you home, or hadn't called him should've immediately told him it was off, but he texted you. Obviously you felt hurt from this, and again, I apologize. I really don't know why that'd make him think otherwise though. But I think you should tell him straight up, and how you feel about the whole situation.

[Ferruccio77]

i understand.
if you tell him, you feel like being defensive but you're not.

if i were you, don't hide that you're upset. he needs to know. you can tell him to forget about the 2nd date, or however up to you. hooters is not about the food, it is about the girls..it is a franchise that is promoting itself based on that. and yes, it was a stupid decision... i really feel like talking some sense into him.

[Asker]

well thanks, most guys here claimed it was about the food. I agree it's not. You can get cheap fast food anywhere it's ll about the girls

[steveguitar]

I'm not supporting his decision, and I have never been to hooters, though I would go given the opportunity. If this was a better date and you guys kept going out for a month and you really liked him, how would you act/react if he brought you there just for the food or just to be in a fun relaxed place?

[Asker]

Hooters is not about the food, that's the point. There is nothing special about their food, it's the same thing you can get anywhere, it's all about the girls. The whole chain is based on the girls, not the food.
It's like saying a strip club serves food, may be true, but it's still about the strippers primarily

[steveguitar]

but you didn't really answer the question, unless you are saying that you wouldn't go to hooters because of the girls or the idea behind the customer attraction. Bars, restaurants and stores that girls go to try on clothes have attractive people working in them also. and if the girls disagreed with the idea they wouldn't work there.

and it is definitely true that girls will do almost anything to get the body they desire or think they desire and most if they get to that body shape will love to show it off.

but anyways, my question is> if you two were good together, and he wanted to go to hooters, or a strip club just for fun, and you guys had been going out for a long time and you knew he was a respectable person, respectful towards women and yourself. if he suggested the idea to go to hooters or a strip club, just for a change in outing, would you go to it?

[Asker]

The implied answer was no, I would not go to hooters or a strip club with him.
I don't mind so much if he went with friends, although I'd prefer he didn't, but I wouldn't go with him.

I mean would you enjoy going to see the chippendales with your girlfriend?

[steveguitar]

I didn't know what they were until I had to research it, though I still don't know what they actually do. I would say no, but I think hooters is a little bit different, it is still run like a restaurant or a bar from what I know about it.

But I still wouldn't take a girl to something like that, just so you know. if she wanted to go, I would, because It could be a fun time. if she wanted to go to a strip club it might be weird, I don't generally like strip clubs anyways, only been to one and it was dirty and seedy, but I saw some free stuff and got away without buying anything.

and the way you said that you made it clear by saying you only wanted snacks not food. that isn't clear, that's just saying I'm not really hungry, get what you want. if you don't want to be there then say 'excuse me? why are you taking me here? this is so disrespectful to me!" say something that actually has meaning behind it.

or maybe he know it was a god way to get rid of you?

[Asker]

Hooters is a restaurant that stands out for hiring only pretty busty waitresses. I would not compare it other restaurant because of that distinct difference. Their food is mediocre, the establishment also, it's really all about the girls

I know it wasn't just that, I felt that I gave him the cold shoulder the whole evening, while still being polite.

If he wanted to get rid of me, why on earth would he ask for a second date?
I sure as hell would not have called him. Although that thought has occurred to me too, it was like in that movie "my best friends girl"

I actually did just call him though to tell him I didn't want to go out again and why. And he was really surprised he saw nothing wrong with it and he didn't mean to offend. He begged me for another date, but I don't know if he can't see why I'm disappointed with it I'm not sure he's the kind of guy I want to be with

[steveguitar]

I think its because hooters is accepted as a restauraunt, society accepted it. and I think that is one reason that he thought it was okay.

well if he doesn't understand the reason behind it, then either he is not in tune with what a woman might object to and or it has never been explained to him. does he have any sisters or a mother that is still in the picture? and if you know, what is his family like. he easily could have been raised in a house full of pigs

[Asker]

No sisters, 3 brothers actually but his parents are still alive and together.
I don't know much else, he grew up on the country, fairly conservative actually. His dad is a pastor actually, his mom a kindergarten teacher, they sound like decent people to me

tbh I never got why hooters does have the kind of acceptance it has today. It's extremely sexist. And while I ws there, there were a few girls their with their boyfriends that were clearly uncomfortable. One even cried in the ladies room about it. So it's not just him

[mandala76]

Well it could be a few things maybe
1) he is so clueless is laughable but if u really like him explain it to him like he's from a different planet not assuming he knows how ridiculous it was he took you there
2) maybe he was really low on cash and the only person he knew that worked at a restaurant happened to work there and could give him a discount?
3) maybe you're extremely hot and he was showing you off to an ex gf
There's many variables but if I were you I'd straight up ask him. Have you taken dates to hooters before? That will open up the conversation at least and then you'll know if you want to give him a second shot. You never know, a screw up like this could pay off big for you in terms of the second date ha!!
Goid luck honey!

[Asker]

None of those variables make it any better though. I really can't think of any reasonable answer

[DodgersGM]

Yeah, this guy doesn't seem like he's very good at dating. Either that or he's playing some weird games to see how you'll respond which, again, equals not very good at dating.

The irony of the disconnect between Hooter's and farmers market intrigued me though. That's quite a leap!

[Asker]

I know, I wasn't expecting it either, especially because he said he knew "nice restaurant".

Did you watch this movie my best friends girl? There's this guys who gets paid to take your ex on a terrible date and I think he always took them to hooters or some place similar. I felt like out of a movie

[DodgersGM]

Yeah I think that would have totally thrown me. But maybe I'm biased because I'm a foodie that LOVES farmers markets, and I'd never step foot in another Hooters if someone paid me.

Haha, I haven't seen it but I can understand why you'd feel that way. I probably would have been looking for hidden cameras!

[godfatherfan]

Wow. That is really bad. There is someone with no class and really not a gentleman. U should just lay into him and let him know what a lowlife he is.

[Asker]

well thanks, I'm glad it's not just me, because a lot guys here see no problem with it apparently

[godfatherfan]

I didn't read the other posts before. The only reason he could possibly think you would go for a second date was that you went into the place and ate. Although he really has to be stupid. You should not have even gone in. But it is not always easy to be the bad guy. Anyone that tries and say he was going there for the food is simply a moron. Buffalo wild wings has the same food and the woman doesn't have to stare at tits the whole meal.

[Asker]

I agree, it's ridiculous to say it's all about the food, yet that's what some guys here said.

I was thinking of not going in but I was also kinda surprised and I didn't want to be that rude, but now I regret it a bit, at least then he would have known what went wrong

[bh6676r942]

I agree with bouncing pig if it was a bad date then don't see him again. but I agree if hooters is his idea of a nice place for dinner don't call him again. But to be fair just assume this first date was a fluke that it will never happen again like this and go on a second date with him

[Asker]

I don't know if I can do that, it'll always be in the back of my mind. I just don't get you know? Out of all the places he could have choosen, why hooters?

[bh6676r942]

Did you send signals that you would like it or something? Anyway if he does it again on the second date you should certainly ditch him

[Kris85]

Lol I sorry but I had to laugh at the question. It was funny. But I totally agree, I wouldn't want to go to Hooters for a first date at all, unless it was talked about before hand and you were ok with it then it wouldn't have been a problem but for him to pick the place and show up at Hooters? I wouldn't be so impressed. If you still like him you could always bring it up and say it was a little distasteful and go from there

[Anonymous]

So do you go on dates to be taken certain places or do you go on dates to get to know someone who could pontetially be a long term partner?

Hooters may not have been the best choice, but you could have suggested another place if you were uncomfortable

[Asker]

No I do go on dates to get to know him. But I think hooters is one of the bad sides of america. A restaurant who only quality are big chested waitresses is just disrespectful. Why not go to strip club?
What kind of man would that's acceptable. And it's sad that society seems to think it's not a big deal

[Opinion Owner]

I know some girls who wouldn't care and who actually feel empowered by places like hooters

Anyway I do agree that your boy was foolish and probably testing you if you

[Asker]

Well I would have clearly failed that test, why would he go out again?

How can hooters be empowering?

[enigmatta]

Well I don't know what's worse. That guy taking you out to Hooters on your first date... or my boyfriend taking me out to the movies to see Lars Von Trier's "Antichrist" on your second date.

[Asker]

lo ok well I would have preferred the antichrist there

[NoblesseOblige]

Sounds like he thinks you're out of his league :) Is he a player type?

[Asker]

if he thinks I'm out of his league why would he take me to hooters? That's just making it worse
I don't know him that well, we met at a farmers market

[NoblesseOblige]

Sounds to me like he's playing by some lame bro's playbook. Take her to Hooters to knock her down a peg. Call only after 3 days. etc etc.

[Asker]

I'm speechless really, that was the worst I've ever had

[NoblesseOblige]

I think he likes you but doesn't know how to date properly lol.

[Asker]

But that's like so wrong I don't even know how he could come up with that. Who tell someone that's a good idea?

[NoblesseOblige]

Guys.

[BouncingPig]

And all of this is fine, but are you only not responding to him cause you wnet to Hooters? Or was he a bad date? You may have been too irritated to be able to catch that he was joking around? Just looking at both sides.

[Asker]

Mainly hooters, the date before and after was ok. Had better had worse. But while in the restaurant he was staring at the girls a lot, so that's a deal breaker

[islands7]

You must have nice hooters?
Here's a guy that chose from his buddies list of fine dining and they take their gals there... that's his experience in dating. He won't understand all your thoughts written here.
Who picked up who & how/where?

[Asker]

We met somewhere and walked from there. We live in new orleans so a lot of good places would have been in walking distance

[islands7]

It would be interesting and fun to call him about that 2nd date and say you just MUST go to (fancy coat & tie w/lobster place) to meet up with your friend, or maybe some other time (that I can't commit to just now). Upon arrival & after seated, ordering a first course/drinks have your friend call - to cancel. Don't leave without a full deal meal that compensates fully for Hooters. Then see if the phone rings again.

[Hyped_up_on_coffee]

Maybe he has a low IQ... Still I'm never the type of girl who minds Hooters , they have great wings <3

[SaVes]

I always thought they were known for their breasts, not their wings.

(Sorry, I was in the mood for a poor joke. Please forgive me.)

[COCOCHANEL]

i love wings too ! lets go next time :3

[bubbiexo]

I think BWW has better wings... And even their wings are questionable lol

[Hyped_up_on_coffee]

XD i haven't gone there yet

[Dzindzer]

I cannot really see what's wrong with taking you to hooters, not every guy has the money for a 5 star restaurant. You acted childish and if you don't want a second date then man up and tell him so.

[Asker]

There are other cheap restaurants, whose main attraction are not the waitresses

[swiftsaver602]

Hahaha ugh. This is just sad. This guy is either really stupid or a douchebag (or both).

[Asker]

It's unbelievable, right? What's wrong with men that they think that's an acceptable date?

[swiftsaver602]

Who knows. The only impression he's giving off with that is, "I'm a player and don't even want a relationship"

[GoldCobra]

Why don't u just tell him u didn't like it instead of faking it. Obviously he's going to hit u up again. Guys cannot read your thoughts. If u told him when u got there, he would've just taken u somewhere else.

[Asker]

well I thought it was obvious, but clearly it's not so I am going to tell him

[Metlahead]

NEVER think it is obvious, unless you spell it out straight! None of that "hinting" bullshit.

It is incredible what you ladies think is "making things quite clear" to men. No wonder so many people are unhappy in relationships. Men don't have a clue about the signals you send. And on the flip side, women read into every little thing that men do, when there is nothing to read into. Oh the humanity!

[Thatguy321]

Was this his first time going on a date with a girl? Some guys are just fucking idiots i swear

[Asker]

I don't think it was. It's so weird he seemed like a really nice guy, but then...

[Thatguy321]

Maybe one of his hoes from his past thought it was cool so he thought "I'll just do that again with this girl"

[Betwyn]

Because he seems himself as gods gift to women...

How could you ever resist him?

[Metal189]

i thought it wasn't supposed to matter where we took you to. isn't the idea of dating someone, to be with them, no matter where

[Asker]

well would you have liked it if she had taken you to see the chippendales?

I'm not into fas food, but I would have been less disappointed if he had taken me to wendys or kfc, but hooters isn't about the food, it's about the girls

[Metal189]

i know how to say no to a man, i mean, yeah its a little bit uncomfortable to be around other men like that, but i know how to say no if they offer a dance or whatever..im just sayin' if you like the guy, it shouldn't matter.

[Metal189]

also, if you didn't like it, you should have spoken up. we don't want you to just agree with us on everything, especially if you don't like it. we respect your opinions

[Asker]

It's uncomfortable, exactly. Out of all the restaurant he could have choosen, he choose the one known only for it's waitresses. How is that a good choice.

We didn't know each other before we went out, so no I didn't like and during the date I think we were a bit distracted by all the boobs

[Metal189]

we? what do you mean

[Asker]

Him and me

[Metal189]

so...are you saying?

[Asker]

You said if I liked him it wouldn't matter but I never even got a chance to get to know him

[Metal189]

nvm, u dont get it

[snowangle]

No she gets it. She's saying she didn't know the guy before the date, so this was his chance to make a good first impression. And he failed.

[Metal189]

again, i repeat, i was taught it shouldn't matter where y'all go, the point is, to e with the one you like, no matter where...the qa sounds shallow, and so does the girls on here who agree

[Anonymous]

What? They have good wings! lol

No but seriously, I agree with you. That's no place for a first date.

[PakiGurl]

LOL whattt!! Just text him back saying the first date was a fail and it's over.

[Anonymous]

What's the big deal? It's a restaurant and they have great burgers & wings. It's not like the place is a strip club.

[Asker]

well it as the same purpose as a strip club, seeing half naked girls. I think it's disrespectful towards women, which makes a terrible place for a date. Unless that was the message he was trying get across, that he doesn't respect women?

And I disagree with the food, I think it's terrible well I'm a picky eater

[Opinion Owner]

Half naked? They are wearing tops and shorts. They're not naked or in pasties. I mean, are you not going to want seats at a professional sports game near cheerleaders too? They wear about the same amount of clothing. You sound like you're very high-maintenance.

[Asker]

Well their shorts are short enough to see their buns and their tops are so low cut you can see half their chest.

Cheerleaders are hired for their athletic ability. Hooters girls are hired purely for sexual appeal to men, which is extremely sexist and offensive.

Ya not going to lie, am I used to more

[Opinion Owner]

Get over yourself. No wonder you're single.

[missalbanian92]

I agree with you anonymous

[missalbanian92]

Hooters is really not disrespected to women. They're not naked. p*rn is a more legit example of women being disrespected. You're just a prude who needs to loosen up and enjoy life. Some people deal with rape, child molestation and other bad things and you think it's a big deal for hooters? You make it seem like it's that bad. But then again, his motive is to have sex with you, so maybe it's possible that, that's what you are worth to him. Maybe that's why you're mad

[Asker]

we're both anonymous

[Opinion Owner]

Boom! missalbanian92 for the win!

[missalbanian92]

The guy is right. You're wrong

[Asker]

You're both wrong. If you think hooters is about the food you're kidding yourself or purposely being ignorant. Or since you feel you have to result to insults maybe just... well you know.

Hooters is not about the food. There is nothing special about their food, it's the same thing you can get anywhere, it's all about the girls. The whole chain is based on the girls, not the food.
It's like saying a strip club serves food, may be true, but it's still about the strippers primarily

[Opinion Owner]

You are entitled and delusional, again there is no wonder why you're single. Come down off your pedestal.

[Ferruccio77]

why hooters dont have male waiters dressing the same way?

[Asker]

well he's single too and I'm not surprised by that either

[Opinion Owner]

Great. Now you've attracted feMANists.

[missalbanian92]

Who cares if it's about the girls? It's still not degrading. They choose to work there. Those girls are hustlers just like strippers are. They make money, by their sex appeal because they have it. Not many people have sex appeal. Oh and about it being degrading, women who get beat by men are degrading. Women who get raped by men are degrading. You are living in a bubble girl. Why are you mad he took you there. Are you insecure and think that he rather look at other girls then you? I'm sure if you went with your friends that are girls it would be different.

[missalbanian92]

And I also may add, maybe he sees you as one of those girls or he doesn't see you as higher up. Maybe you think he sees you as not good enough? Girl is that why you're mad? Let's be real, a girl is likely to give it up to a guy or like a guy if he makes her feel worthy. I'm just trying to think of logical answers why you're mad. All the possibilities make you look like a stuck up girl who needs to get that stick out of her ass or have a lot of sex so you can enjoy life

[Asker]

Well everyone that goes there cares about the girls, otherwise they'd have way less customers, because it is clearly all about the girls.

Just because there are worse things than working at hooters, doesn't make it right. If you think it's degrading or not is up to you, I don't care, but choosing a place that is all about girls in skimpy outfits for a date is just wrong.
I'm going to take him to male strip club and see how he likes that.

I wouldn't go to hooters with my friends, it's everything that's wrong with america in one restaurant.

[Asker]

Ya let's just keep throwing insults because that's what civilised people do

[Ferruccio77]

from wikipedia:
The appearance of the waitresses is a main selling feature of the restaurant. A Hooters Girl is a waitress employed by the Hooters restaurant chain. The girls are recognizable by their uniform of a white tank top with the "Hootie the Owl" logo and the location name on the front paired with short nylon orange runner's shorts.

hooter girls aren't to say degrading, but they fall in the same category as geisha or a courtesan to me. geisha do not sleep with their guest, they provide company.
dates are to be romantic, not go to a place where the guy gets to see other girls. it is the same reason sex sells in hollywood and same reason why most celebrities want to show more skin and same reason why they don't allow grandmas to work in hooters. ;)

[Opinion Owner]

It's not an insult if it's true. You're just an uptight, typical, entitled female.

[Opinion Owner]

Go save the world Ferruccio77.

[Asker]

aww same here

[Opinion Owner]

missalbanian92 is my dream girl!

[Asker]

Ya I be she is.

[Opinion Owner]

Not you though, I give you two thumbs down and boo you.

[Asker]

I think that goes without saying, but thanks for stating the obvious

[Opinion Owner]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooo