How this started out is I watched a music video Five finger death punch- wrong side of heaven And it talked about basically how veterans are treated in america and that most end up homeless. So my question is why? Being originally from russia, our veterans are treated with the highest of respect even though most fought in world war two and are still alive and such. If someone disrepects them literally you'll get beaten up for being rude to them. And they get a high Pention I think that's how you spell it. So they don't end up homeless at all
"Arms wide open I stand alone. I'm no hero and I'm not made of stone. Right or wrong I can hardly kill I'm on the wrong side of heaven And the righteous side of hell"
Maybe in the Vietnam era they do but I get treated like a king lol. I get my post 9/11 GI Bill. I get Basic housing allowance. I get the upmost respect in job interviews. Girls love it when I tell them I was in. Girlfriends parents always respect me. Guys in college look up to me and ask me for life advice. I get VA assistance. I get to register for my classes before everyone else.. I get bada$$ government discounted mortgages. Honestly I can't complain lol..
Of course mental illness happens a lot when guys are getting out and I had a lot of trouble adjusting back to civilian life too. The VA offers so many services that will help you and assist you to get back on your feet when you get out. The guys that come out all fcked up are usually the ones that are too 'tough' to talk about their issues to a professional. The label of mental illness or PTSD is often off putting as well. That's why a lot of Marines stay away from going that route but it is really in their best interest.
If you become homeless after getting your dd214 in todays generation you are either dealing with a strong mental illness that you should of handled as it approached or you are truly a shitbag and are not capable of wiping your own ass. We like to call those types of guys terminal lances in the Marines ahahah
It's in a lot of countries. They go fight a fight the gov sent them to, they fight the governments fight... fights the government wouldn't start if they personally were on the front line getting shot at. They only start these fights because somebody else will risk themselves for it. Even if the country is bombed, the leaders will have safe places to hide, while civilians get killed. Then after all that, it's left to charities to look after the soldiers. They come back without limbs, with mental health issues, and are left to rot or be taken care of by civilians. The government doesn't care at all, about their civilians or their fighters. This is why it happens. American soldiers have it better than soldiers in a lot of other countries still though.
To be fair, I don't think Vets are mistreated here in the U. S. I think we have it better than in most countries. We have college money through the G. I. Bill, very low cost health care or free through the VA (no it's by no means the greatest, but better than nothing if you don't get health coverage via some other means) I've never been disrespected for serving. On the contrary. I've been given much praise. We have the G. I. Housing loan. A $0.0 down gaurenteed loan with low interest. I wouldn't be able to own a home without it. If you've been injured in the service get disability payments (although I will say they sure aren't as fair about that as they ought to be.) My hearing is fu*ked. I couldn't hear a bomb going off in this room. For his they want to give me only 10% of my disability claim. That's BS. That said how does a veteran from say China get treated? They probably get a congratulatory hand shake and a free pick ax to mine coal with and that's it. I think on the whole we're taken care of more than Vets in most countries. People thank me for my service. Sometimes I'm baffled by this. I did so willingly I wasn't drafted. I feel if you live in a free country and you love freedom and love your country how could you not serve? It should be automatic. How can you sit on your ass knowing people are fighting and dying to protect your freedom and not contribute? I've always been a sheep dog rather than a sheep anyway so it comes naturally to me.
On that note, I know I'm going to draw a lot of fire for what I'm about to say. I know the rotten eggs and tomatoes are coming my way. All I ask is you read this all the way through before you take aim.
I was taught in the military to overcome adversity. I was taught self reliance. I don't understand homeless Vets. They learned the same lessons. I've been shot at several times. I've watched people die several times. Pleasant? No. That said, you close ranks and carry on. You don't sit there feeling sorry for yourself. You damn sure don't drink and use drugs to the point of homelessness. I knew the risks full well when I signed on the doted line. No one put a gun to my head. The VA will actually give a place to live for homeless Vets and job search assistance. SC has a no homeless Verts program. Why aren't homeless Vets taking advantage of stuff like that? Why aren't they falling back on that mental toughness of overcoming adversity that was drilled into them? Sadly I would submit to you they don't want to.
It's really an outrage that the people running our government right now haven't taken better care of our American veterans. The disgrace with the Veterans Administration health care system is terrible. Veterans have died waiting to get medical care. It should make every American angry and we should demand that our president do something to fix the problem.
The cruelty is that just because they did help doesn't mean they should be expected to be carried for the rest of their lifes. Besides they get college money and are given the opportunity to make something of themselves the one that can't make anything of themselves, well what should they just be carried for the rest of their lifes? Veterans are given opportunity. Besides they know the risks when they join and they make the conscious decision to join. And don't give me any bs about they're fighting for our rights or something like that because truth is we haven't been seriously threatened since the nazis. Every war the US has been in since than was because of their own doing. Also the military doesn't work for the people they work for the government. If the government released the dogs of war on us than they would hurt us because they're taught to follow orders withought question
1- the government sucks 2- a lot of vets go to war because they are dropouts or "misfits". there are exceptions and many upstanding people who join the armed forces, but a disproportionately high percent do it as a 3rd or 4th option 3- ptsd kicks in and they can't function completely right when they get back. 4- vietnam vets were treated like shit cause it was an unpopular war. I don't know the specifics, but they had no support from anyone
although, i find it odd you get your information from a death metal group
America has a very individualistic culture that frowns upon giving help to others and/or accepting help from others. In other words, it is viewed as more honorable for one to lift themselves out of their own problems than to accept help. That is not to say it is correct or that I agree with it entirely, but that is why America is the way it is and why many people remain homeless and/or without economic aid.
i think it´s stupid anyway to respect veterans nowadays. because when was the last time america or pretty much every first world country fought for it´s existance? it´s all about ressources nowadays.
also people know what they sign up for. nobody respects the dumpsterguys either for wadling through shit all day, because that´s what they are payed for. same goes for everybody, who chooses to join the army.
Most homeless vets are addicts, some of them aren't even really veterans, they just act like vets to get more money. I was laid off after 6 months and all i did was search for work. If someone has been chronically homeless, more likely there is a reason. Its not the American people or our government. I realize poverty can hit anyone, but we have shelters, programs, churches, etc. Usually when it comes time to do their part and hold work, or stay clean they fuck up and relapse.
Because American politicians show how big their dicks are by getting us into senseless wars. All they care about is acting manly and aggressive. They don't think about the terrible misery and costs that extend way into the future as injured veterans try to return to civilian life.
Five Finger Death Punch are known for their horrible lyrics, so I wouldn't use that as a gauge. Most veterans are homeless? That's just ridiculous. I would say they're more worshiped than anything else. The only time people seem to be against them is when they freak out and start murdering people
The Vietnam War is what started most of it. No one liked the war or how it was fought, so those who fought in it were looked down upon (even though many were forced to fight it). No one has really liked any of the wars that have happened since either.