Why Wearing Makeup Shouldn't Be Shamed or As Controversial As It Is

[Katsuki]

What is underneath makeup?

We've pretty much all heard these overused, cliche makeup shaming lines before: "This is why guys have trust issues" or "This is why guys should take girls swimming on the first date".

Being someone who has been interested in makeup and has worn it from a young age, it saddens me when I see young girls(and guys) being put down for their simple act of wearing or interest in makeup.

I still remember once my freshmen year of high school I had to take all my makeup off for an event and felt so, so devastated when a girl merely said to me, "Wow, you look so different without makeup on!" I guess it was the way she said it that made the comment extremely offensive and confidence shattering. After that encounter, I never let anyone see me without makeup for a long time because I saw that comment being equivalent to "Wow, you're so ugly without makeup!" Once this happens, you get into a mindset in which you think makeup is the only thing that can make you beautiful. I also know many have experienced this thought before and that I'm not the only one. But I guess what I'm left wondering is how and why this statement is such a bad thing? Of course people are going to look at least slightly different without makeup on, but how is this rocket science?

Makeup builds confidence

Now I understand some people don't agree with the act of "covering up your face", but makeup isn't all about the act of covering. Sure makeup can cover up some redness, blemishes, under eye circles or anything that may seem "unappealing" to others, but why should that bother anyone else if the person applying the makeup is doing it for themselves? [To these makeup shamers:]Are you really that conceited where if someone wants to cover up something or enhance a certain feature they have, you're going to put them down for it because that's not exactly what they look like? It's still their face and it's still their features, right? So, what's the problem? Makeup doesn't change personalities, interests, qualities, or anything of the sort, so why should it matter to anyone else if it makes whoever's wearing it feel more confident?

Makeup is not a "mask"

Makeup, in many ways, is art. It's a way to create something beautiful whether it's on a canvas or on the face. It can be washed off and what you're left with is just as beautiful. I've learned to love what's underneath my makeup, even though it's taken me awhile to do so. So what if you have acne, redness, dark circles, a big nose, small eyes, big eyes, sparse eyebrows; you can change it, hide it or embrace it! No one should be shamed for what their choice may be and I hope that makeup can be seen as something more than just a "mask" people wear to cover their "insecurities".

[1truekhaleesi]

And men say makeup changes a girls face
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This is a sassy response and I love it.
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[Katsuki]

Exactly!!!

[Xleah18x]

soo true!!

[TheUsername27]

It does change a girls face... when they start using different tons to make their bone structure look different. That's just a fact. A sassy response doesn't meant shit lol.

[1truekhaleesi]

@TheUsername27 a beard does the same thing to a mans face.

[TheUsername27]

Yeah I agree with that. Having a full on beard... if you don't have a good jaw line... e. g it isn't symmetrical it will make a man look better. The difference is not many men have a full on beard or anything more than a stubble. Apart from some hipsters and rednecks the vast majority of guys don't have more than a stubble.

[1truekhaleesi]

@TheUsername27 more men should have beards. Beards are hot.

[TheUsername27]

some guys like girls that wear a lot of make up... most don't (At least when they are wanting more than a hook up). Some women like full on beards a large amount don't. I personally wish more girls has curly/wavy hair... but I hear about girls wanting to straighten it... :/

[TheUsername27]

But yeah if you have a decent jaw line.. having a beard won't change your look too much (excluding to the women like yourself who find them hot). But for guys with good to very good jawlines it will probably hinder their looks.

[1truekhaleesi]

@TheUsername27 I justed started letting my hair be it's natural curly self instead of straightening it. I like it like this.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

That pic of Osama bin harden always weirds me out... And I've seen it at least 500 times

[pineappleorange]

About the meme, I don't get it? Your boobs are your private body parts, like a vagina, penis and ass. Everyone covers their privates. Your face isn't meant to be covered unless you're a Middle Eastern. I don't think that meme understands the difference between private and non private body parts.

[1truekhaleesi]

@pineappleorange people can cover their face if they feel like it. They don't need to be middle eastern to do it.

[pineappleorange]

My point is that your face is not a private body part except in Middle East cultures and only for their women.

[1truekhaleesi]

@pineappleorange it can be if you want it to. What does that have to do with beards?

[pineappleorange]

I was referring to the meme link.

[1truekhaleesi]

@pineappleorange exactly. What does that have to do with beards?

[pineappleorange]

I don't know? You posted the meme link? Are we talking about the same thing here?

My comments were about this link that you posted: https://pin.it/Th_egoK

Not, the beard picture.

[1truekhaleesi]

@pineappleorange you can still see the face though. And if a guy doesn't like it that's fine. All he had to do was say so and then I'll break up with him. I'm like makeup and will wear as much as I please. I'm not changing myself for him.

[pineappleorange]

Most guys prefer their girls to be au naturelle.

[1truekhaleesi]

@pineappleorange and most girls don't give a damn what guys want. We're not changing ourselves for guys. Only someone with low self esteem would change themselves for another person.

[Sophisticated_Sonic]

Any girl who takes time to look good and compliment her appearance is worth it. I don't understand where the controversy is.

[Truthatanycost]

Yea, neither do I... I mean it's not as though as it's a complete con or anything...

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[lumos]

I think there are two sides to the coin.
One side side: artistic expression and enhancing what you already have.
And the other side: being insecure and really using makeup as a mask.

I belong to the first side. I have no problem not wearing makeup in public. My everyday routine is basically: concealer, mascara, filling in my eyebrows a little and putting highlighter on my cheekbones. So, a natural look, enhancing what I already have. I like dolling myself up every now and then though, because I find the process therapeutic. I love drawing, always have, so that passion sort of blends in with makeup very well. I even play with makeup despite not having anywhere to go, simply because I see it as a hobby and another side to artistic expression.

But I am aware of the fact that there are girls out there who don't feel like me. They don't see makeup as a way to express themselves, but a way to hide themselves. They never sport the "natural" look but *must* always beat their face to the Gods, every single day. If they have to go somewhere fast and they can't finish their makeup routine, they panic or get anxiety. They're afraid people won't like them or look at them if they don't wear that makeup. And I truly feel sorry for those girls.

However. Like you, it really irks me when people refuse to see the first side of the coin. They think it's impossible to be confident but at the same time enjoy putting on makeup. That every girl who wears makeup hates the way they look, that they somehow feel self-entitled, that they're shallow and there's nothing more to them than the makeup they put on.

I, for one, think that people who blindly bash anyone who puts makeup on, is the shallow ones in this case. *They're* the ones who can't get over the fact that someone likes looking a certain way. *They're* the ones who think humans are walking pieces of advertisements. They're the ones objectifying, ruthlessly bashing and blindly hating other people. Based on what? Looks. That's the epitome of shallow in my book. So y'all better take a good look at yourselves in the mirror.

[Katsuki]

This is exactly what I'm talking about and I don't understand why so many people can't see this side to it
I use to be like this and it truly is a nightmare, however I've learned over the years that I like a more natural look on myself but I never, ever put someone down for wearing more makeup than me

[lumos]

That's great <3 and neither do I. It's not productive or helpful. How much makeup someone else wears doesn't affect me. So why put someone down? I truly believe that those who go out of their way to bash others for how they look, are not only the shallow ones in this case, but also the insecure ones. Pointing out someone else's "flaws" and bashing them for how they look is just a pathetic way of steering the attention away from your own flaws and insecurities. And the guys who see it as "false advertisement" are usually the extremely high-maintenance ones anyway. They won't accept a girl who has a natural look unless she's like a 10/10 super model, but neither will they accept a girl who tries to look better and puts effort into her appearance, because that apparently is "shallow". It's a master suppression technique called "double bind". Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Anonymous]

Let's assume I was 5'3, a bit fat, balding and grey hair (what little I had?)... let's assume I wanted the "bad boy" look... so I wear good lifts... dyed my hair... wore a toupee, / extensions... wore a fake muscle shirt t shirt... now assuming it wasn't for a character and I wasn't an actor...

I know of a lot of women who'd be really angry if I kept it up until (let's say) marriage, and then just stopped. If I made myself look a lot different from who I really am without that stuff, and I kept it up in private, I think a lot of women would be ticked when they found out.

Same thing with makeup. If it looks natural but enhances, ok... but if you look completely different underneath, and you keep it up until it's serious... then that's different.

I know women who have been upset with me because they thought my stage name (social media name too) was my real name. I never lied to them, always used my real first name... something that small, that I really don't think about... and women have been ticked when they found out I had a different last name.

I don't have issues with natural looking makeup... hide the zits, ok, I get it... socially acceptable, I'd probably try a bit of it, too... but when you're dating and you get serious and find out that a lot of the look is fake, it can seem a bit manipulative to the people you date...

[justkidding93]

the problem is this: if a girl who uses makeup to such a degree that she looks significantly different with or without it, expects to date a guy who is on her "level" with makeup on, then she is being a hypocrite. You are increasing your sexual market value with lies and deceit. So technically, the guys who are attracted to you without makeup are the ones you should go for, other guys who find you attractive with makeup but dont find you attractive without it, chances are likely that they are to good for you but you might be under the delusion that the guys who still find you attractive without makeup are not good enough for you.

If someone works out in the gym and has a great body as a result, they likely expect to date someone who is also into physical fitness and has a great body, and thats understandable and it feels like someone like that has earned it to be that selective.

However if someone uses makeup or plastic surgery to make themselves more attractive to the opposite sex (which is usually girls who do this) then they technically dont really deserve to be more selective because higher value guys might notice them more after their "enhancements". I feel somewhat the same about steroids however at least getting a great body with steroids require some sort of effort and maintenance.

[Nyx_85]

There is a different between covering up some skin problems, a scar, dark circles (seriously people can't always help that) and enhancing your features but then there is like severe contouring and what not. Expert level stuff. But even then most people should be able to tell what is overdone.

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[Nyx_85]

*difference. Ugh.

[AleDeEurope]

If makeup builds confidence, then you should be confident enough to understand that guys don't like going to sleep with one woman and waking up to another one.
Also... does it really build confidence? I mean... I don't think it shows much confidence when you can't even take a picture without makeup because you look ugly... just saying.

I don't hate on makeup, if you wanna wear it, go ahead, but when it comes to girls I want to date, I want them with the least amount of makeup possible, because I wanna know how she truly looks like.

[Katsuki]

If you think that you're going to bed with one woman and waking up to another one, then you need to get yourself checked out because they're, in fact, the same woman. Maybe if you could see more than just the makeup they're wearing[or not wearing], you could understand that there is more to a person than just what's on their face. But I know that takes a lot of work and effort for some guys, so I won't ask that much.

Does it build confidence? Of course it does. Why would millions of women who wear makeup be saying it builds their confidence if it didn't? Are you just going to dismiss what woman say just because it's "irrelevant" to you?

[AleDeEurope]

Lol you clearly don't get the first point. You wouldn't understand unless you're a guy.

Yeah, just like women say they dress for themselves, but when they stop being available for guys they stop dressing nicely. Come on, we all know you just say it builds confidence to make yourself feel better and to give an image that you're not insecure. We all know you are.

[Katsuki]

So what you're saying is that all woman who wear makeup are insecure? Lol, right.

[AleDeEurope]

No, I'm not saying that.

[Elarra]

That last picture is the reason why it's shamed and controversial.

Make-up literally means invent or fake. If I 'make up' a story, I'm creating something that isn't true. Your reaction to that girl saying you look different without make-up was a very unreasonable one. If you wanted to look the same with make-up on as when you don't have it on, what's the actual point in make-up? Isn't the point of it to LOOK different than the way you naturally do? It wasn't a negative comment. It was a true one. And the fact that she said that to you means that you hardly ever walk out without wearing it. Someone who was wearing make-up for the fun of it and because they like it wouldn't have been 'devastated' as you put it by her comment.

Make-up shouldn't be shamed or controversial, but you also shouldn't lie to yourself about why you're wearing it.

[Katsuki]

Please keep in mind that this happened almost 5 or 6 years ago.. I go out all the time without makeup currently and have no problems at all. I'm confident in my own skin and have always seen makeup as a way to express one's self. I just dont understand why you're trying to make assumptions about the event when you werent even there to witness it.

And did you even read what I wrote after that? I explained how WHAT she said and the WAY she said it pretty much meant that she thought I was "ugly". Of course when someone makes a negative comment about your appearance you're going to feel bad about it? How was my response unreasonable?

[helloitsmethere]

Makeup is art.
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[hazoplmeught]

As you can see, the person drastically looked different in the after pictures. That is why it is dumb. Imagine hooking up with a girl and then learning she looks way different later on, its weird.

Your face isn't a canvas, its a face.

[helloitsmethere]

@hazoplmeught It can be a canvas. So what if a girl wants to use her face as a canvas? I used to wear makeup as a kid, as young as five because I used to dance and perform on stage and it would compliment the costumes and make our facial expressions and smile pop. It isn't dumb. If a girl wants to use her face as a canvas, let her be. I guess going all out for an everyday look is too much, but saying it isn't art is kinda dumb because makeup is used for a bunch of different things.
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[hazoplmeught]

I mean on a regular basis. Art is still art, thats art. If they aver walked outside like that every human being has the right to judge her accordingly.

[Jemini_Crocket]

It's a mask if you wear it every day and especially if you need it to feel confident. I believe that a woman has to build up her confidence without it and then wear it only if she feels like it. You should wear it to show off, not to hide and pretend.

I'm totally pro for light makeup or natural looking nomakeup makeup but against makeup which looks like a mask and then the girl looks like she put her head into cake.

But of course, it's your life and your decision to wear and use whatever you want. Do what makes u happy, don't care about others and their opinions.

[Anonymous]

Makeup is nice but too many women think their attractive level is actually what they are while wearing makeup and won't settle for less.

So a 5/10 female dolls herself up to a 7/10 and suddenly she thinks she deserves 8/10 males as her partner.

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In addition makeup is basically false advertising and genetic scamming.

[WriterAndPainter]

Genetic scamming...😂😂😂

[TheUsername27]

Exactly lol. I'm not going to wear padding to make myself look more muscly then expect women to accept as the real me. It is false advertising 100%. And when we see them without it... that's when we truly judge their looks.

[WriterAndPainter]

@TheUsername27 and it's fair to do so.

[Mignonne_Mermaid]

Love is love. If you focus so much on apperance your no better than them.
And genetic scamming, wtf?

[TheUsername27]

@Mignonne_Mermaid Love is appreciating someone for who they and that includes what they look like without a face mask (aka the real them).

[Maik567]

How is wearing makeup controversial? Pretty much every girl I know wears makeup and I've never heard anyone whine about it. A person has to be incredibly naive if they can't tell someone is wearing a ton of makeup, and if they expect that person to look like that 24/7.

[TheUsername27]

It's a mask. That doesn't make it bad or wrong. But girls start thinking their true 'beatuy' or what they actually look like is themselves with make up on. That's not the case.
There are levels to how much ones wear... a little bit off foundation and make up or something... yeah it will just maybe give yourself some more colour and even your skin. But when girls start mixing shades to make their bone structure look different... as seen in that blonde woman's photo yeah that's when it really becomes just a mask.
You can delude yourself to make yourself feel better but men see through that and so do other women. We're going to see you without make up and if it's drastically different in a bad way don't expect men to stick around.

[Bananaman177]

Make-up causes premature wrinkles, notice which companies own allvthe anti-aging, anti-wrinkle creams?

Make-up companies.

So please, keep putting on your make-up girls. We're counting on it...
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[Tony1974]

The worst lies are self-delusions. You can justify you need for make up all you want. Those of us who don't want a woman with that junk all over her will pass.

It's your life live it for YOU. As long as your friends and family love you for you who cares. We all have our own preferences.

[TripleAce]

It's not shamed or controversial. Make up looks nice

BUT what is not ok is when wearing make up gives her a boost in apperance (smoother more even ton with pretty erotic feminine colors) that she can go walk around demanding men based on her 'enhanced' appearance

A 8/10 man is all natural
A 8/10 women is 20% false advertising so she's probably a 6

[Katsuki]

So.. you're generalizing? Because what you're saying is that every woman who wears makeup to enhance their beauty walks around and demands for men's attention? I don't think so. Sure there are some who do this, but it is certainly not the majority.

[TripleAce]

Majority for sure

People will take any advantage they can. And if using facial enhancements lands them a more attractive man, you betcha they will use it

You see it all the time. Singles going out to bars and clubs, dinners lounges vacations even working out. She's almost always got some form of make up on. While men are just natural

Most girls don't even leave the house without some form of make up on

[Katsuki]

So it doesn't hurt to look nice and wear makeup to special dates, bars or dinners? lol I guess I don't understand where you're trying to go with this

Why should it matter to you if girls don't leave the house without some form of makeup on? Like I said, they're not doing it to impress you lol

[TripleAce]

Yea it's ok and looks good lol
As long as her ego isn't artificially inflated

[HookedOnSalt]

So @Katsuki, if a 5'6 man manages to wear 4" insoles and comes off as a 5'10er, then at home he takes his shoes off and he's much shorter- you won't mind? I mean there's more to someone than their looks.

[Katsuki]

@HookedOnSalt Nah, I wouldn't mind

[TheUsername27]

Yeah sure you wouldn't mind. Fuck it... I'm going to put a huge padding on my pants so girls think i have a huge flaccid penis. Might as well get some sponged padding so they think I'm 200lbs pure muscle.

He is generalizing but you can't generalize either by saying it isn't the majority when you have no clue. Girls may do it on a subconscious level.

[Katsuki]

@TheUsername27 And you know all about this because you're a girl and wear makeup, right?

[TheUsername27]

Its called basic common sense. You're just bitter that you look crap without make-up and you don't have the self confidence to show your true face.

[Katsuki]

@TheUsername27 LMAO when did I ever say that I think that I look crap without makeup? I literally explained in my post that I'm confident in my own skin and going out bare faced. I take it you didn't read the whole post though, but I didn't expect you to anyways since you're part of the exact people I'm directing this post at.

[lovelyhoneybones]

Some chicks look way too fake with makeup and don't look anywhere like themselves. They try to take pride in being pretty, but they're not because it's makeup. Though I don't have a problem with makeup. In this day and age it seems like women have to wear makeup to be seen as attractive, despite males saying otherwise.

[Iraqveteran666]

Basically the whole jewellery, make up and cosmetic industry is geared up to make women feel uncomfortable with their looks and to tell women they are not naturally beautiful so to be attractive they must modifying themselves from their hair, skin, eyes, lips, boobs, butt, legs, feet, clothes hair etc. The weave and extension for hair industry is worth more annually than the economies of many countries add this to the make up and cosmetic industry's yearly income.

[Imhotep99]

Oh you can wear all the makeup you want. Just don't demand attention when you need it or force people to like it when they don't. Shaming someone for wearing makeup is bad, but you cannot force people to like it. Preferences play a great role in attraction.

[Littlett25]

Girls should be able to wear makeup or not as the please. If you end up getting serious with a girl without seeing her without makeup then you've probs rushed into a relationship

[MrAssHat]

meh a lie is a lie even when its to yourself.. i would rather wake up to a woman that makes me want morning sex instead of scream asking why

[NukeCanada]

Yeah, I don't get it either. Must be one of these MGTOW things. Keep wearing make up for us guys who appreciate it.