I do not know if the figure of 95 per cent is correct at this time, but I am certain that it will be correct within a decade.
What women, as a collective, appear to not understand about men is that we look upon everything as a cost/risk/benefit calculation. The more intelligent the man, the more that he looks upon his activities in that way.
The reality (about which most women appear to be oblivious) is that the the Feminist sisterhood has made interaction with women so legally dangerous for men that a significant and increasing number of men are walking away, as a matter of self preservation.
Others, who are so driven by hormones and the primal urge to mate that they are willing to take foolhardy risks, are becoming extremely cautious about approaching females.
If the female was to make the first approach, that huge problem would be taken out of the way.
Why are an increasing number of men seeing interaction with women as a legally dangerous thing to do, women ask?
Consider this:
1. Show interest in a female: risk an education or career ending sexual harassment complaint.
2. Approach a woman: risk an education or career ending sexual harassment complaint.
3. Go on a date: risk an education or career ending false rape complaint.
4. Have consensual sex with a woman: risk an education or career ending false rape complaint.
If women want to see what the future will look like, they should follow the link (below) to a report about the situation in Nottinghamshire, England, where, if a man speaks to a woman, he risks an Orwellian criminal charge and prison time.
www.theguardian.com/.../nottinghamshire-police-count-wolf-whistling-hate-crime
The legislation was sold as an anti-catcalling measure, but the bill was written so broadly that any form of interaction that a woman decides is not to her liking can be the basis for a criminal complaint.
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This whole wanting girls to make the first move is so wimpy! Don't you guys know how to take some initiative? Can't you read her "subtle" but often obvious non-verbal cues?
I've been married for more than twenty years, so I might not know all the new "rules" for dating, but the truth is it should be easier than this.
Used to be... a guy smiles at a girl and she smiles back, he approaches her, she responds. Each one takes incremental steps letting the other know they are interested. It escalates SLOWLY so neither party is left hanging out there with a big social commitment to someone who isn't interested.
I wonder if having our eyes constantly focused at the screen of an electronic device isn't harming our ability to read people anymore. Honestly, from what I've seen, the girl is often the first one "making a move" by non-verbal cues. It's just the guy is waiting for her to do something much less subtle. This must be why girls do stupid stuff like sending nude selfies to guys.
Is being subtle totally lost on this generation?
i prefer making the first move. i dont feel in conrtol being left to be receptive to whatever the hell his intentions are, which i won't know. if i make the move at least i know what my aim is. and its never malicious.
honestly doesn't make sense to me how anyone prefers being the receiver. i won't reject a guy for making a move if i like him BUT hate it. i never get along with guys who think its the guys job. we clash.
Most guys say yes out of laziness, but in reality I think no. Men want to chase women not the other way around. They want someone slightly more out of their league at all times. So I think the relationship wouldn't be as strong if she was the chooser. (Not saying no relationships like this work, but it's prob rare)
Of course, almost everyone wants the other person to make the first move.
However, there is a reason guys say this a lot. Women almost never do it. Almost all of my female friends *refuse* to make the first move. Dating is heavily stacked in favor of women, it only makes sense that men are getting tired.
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I kinda wish they'd stop, or at least have a realistic sense of their sexual marketplace value.
It seems like the ones with nothing to lose because they know no man's hitting on them will be more obnoxiously brash, and quick to make a scene when they don't get a positive response.
Seriously ladies, if you weigh as much as me, are older than me, and sound like you've been eating cigarettes since you were 13, dial it back and take no for an answer. When you think sidling up and fucking up my pool shot by hip tipsily checking me with some overtly sexual comment that would get me successfully sued for harassment ANYwhere is the way to go, you need to realize you're going to get loudly embarrassed every time.Everyone prefers not making the first move, so yeah, I'd believe it.
But wanting someone to make the first move doesn't mean we're gonna wait for it to happen. That's the difference between men and women.
P. S.: The link is broken :/Everyone would like to be approached.
The women in the comments here keep saying how they wouldn't like to approach men - because "if they really liked you they would chase you".
Funny, almost as if men shouldn't be allowed to have the same right to feel desired too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯It doesn't surprise me that a large majority of those interviewed would want women to make the first move. Now that women are being encouraged to have the strength and courage to go for what they want, I'm not sure why women would be just sitting around and waiting for something to happen. There's not much excuse for it anymore now that gender roles aren't really a thing.
Unfortunately, there's still probably a large majority of women who still want men to make the first move so what you will have are a bunch of people just glancing at one another, never budging but hoping the other person will.I would say this is a combo of fear of rejection , males are not the desired gender , some young women especially can be very brutal in rejecting men , saw this many times as door staff , a woman will NEVER experience this from a man , as female attention is very rare for most men , most men will likely be shocked at first , then flattered !! Whereas is the reverse for women , most are sick of male attention !!
Also there ARE gender roles , a woman will in nearly all cases , expect the man to lead confidently , therefore he approaches her.So I made the first move, and multiple other moves, what did it bring me? Nothing. Men need to grow up and stop treating bold women who know what they want, and go for it in all honesty, like these women are some kind of shit putting themselves out there or intimidating.
really 95% i didn't think they will be that huge but honestly i think its true men like it when a girls approach them first they must feel good just like when girls feels when a guy tell them they like them although they must like it more because its not everyday a girl comes to a guy and tell them i like you so it must be special unless your are celebrity😉
I can see why guys would appreciate it if the girl made the first move. It's scary going up to someone and asking them out when you have no idea how they feel. So I commend the guys who take that chance.
It's also probably refreshing when the girl does take the initiative too if the guy is always initiating things.Yes, it would be a nice and welcomed change. I think there'd be a lot "happier" relationships because of it to as women would be "choosing" who their interested in (like they do anyway, but guys wouldn't have to guess and women wouldn't settle or go with the guy that asks them instead of who they are interested in).
I think you're getting too stuck on the gender thing. I think that EVERYONE likes it if other person makes the first move. My guess is 95% of all females would want a prospective employer to offer them a job upfront rather than having to apply. Conversely, I'm pretty sure 95% of all males would want the same. Confounding!
By "move" I think of that as asking him out for a date.
But yes I wouldn't mind if she hinted that she liked me so that I can feel more confident knowing that if I ask she won't slap me in the face or think I just want sex from her.I could agree somewhat. I'd find it convenient if she did. Approaching a girl that has no interest is basically guaranteed a rejection. I know men are stupid about picking up the signals, but it's better than nothing.
The settler tends to get bored sooner. This happens more often in guys case. If a girl settler says yes to a date/relationship, her love tends to grow strong more frequently than a guy settler.
But if girls approach their date interests more often, the cummulative measure of awkwardness and depression will be lower, just because us guys are more likely to say yes to you girls 🤤"Studies" can show 100% yet, the results still wouldn't apply to everyone. Studies showing things like this doesn't really give any value, unless everyone in the world was surveyed. Why would any guy be against a girl making the first move? Either way, he would need to move anyway.
I'd say so, many girls use annoyingly subtle ways to tell you they like you. It notice it depends on the girls too, fat and obese girls are way more forward than most girls. Certain ethnicities are more forward too I notice, pretty girls tend to be more shy too I notice
I don't know if the percentage is perfect. But yes everyone wants their partner to make the first move regardless their gender. Cause you need a lot of courage and guts to make the first move. Hope this helps.
I believe that the vast majority of men wish women would make a move when they are interested in a guy rather than just sit back helplessly like most women do and hope he makes a move. That doesn't mean we think women should make all the moves... we just wish they would as much as men do.
I don't agree on the percentage, but I'm sure men that are shy or lack confidence would like the girl to be the the one who initiates contact. I have no preference.
I think it's totally fine for a guy to have this mentality but it's not realistic. You have to go after what you want in life and if that means approaching someone because waiting for her/him to approach you hasn't worked then so be it
if both sexes make moves it will lead to more relationships happening. the ability for making the first move doesn't have to be monopolized by only one gender.
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