Girls do not need social-skills, conversation-skills, people-skills, confidence, being funny, people skills

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and they can still attract guys, get a boyfriend, date, but guys can not lack any of those things, traits, qualities, I don't see why people disagree with that. After all, girls don't have to approach guys and start flirting, talking with them, don't have to ask them out, initiate things, etc. We guys have to keep the conversation alive, interesting, prevent it from getting boring, prevent the awkward pauses, silences, etc. So as long as a girl is average or decent looking, cute, pretty, looks good, she can get a boyfriend, date easily being socially-inept, socially stupid, retarded, dumb, have no people-skills, be quiet, socially-awkward, etc.

I got this from a Book called "The Shy Guy's Guy's to Dating" by Barry Dutter, and he said this "Here is where we realize just how much harder it is for guys to meet someone than it is for girls. If a girl wants to let guys know she is available, all she has to do is leave the house. The simple fact that she has gone out in public sends a signal to guys that she is available. The sad fact is that almost any girl in the world as long as she is average, cute, pretty, decent looking, can have any guy she wants by saying one word to him "Hello"

That's all it takes for a girl to break the ice and start conversation with a guy, but for guys metaphorically speaking, the ice is much thicker and harder, and may require some sort of high-powered drill to cut, break through"

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This goes to show on how much easier it is for women, girls:

"When a man sees a beautiful, young, sexy woman, he INSTANTLY feels a sexual attraction.

But does the same apply for women?

Do women feel sexual attraction to men based mostly on looks? Or is something else going on?

Well, after studying this topic for over five full years now, I can tell you that women usually have their "attraction mechanisms" triggered by things OTHER than looks"

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It's like, guys have to be the "better guy, better man" but girls, woman, can be average and still be attractive, they don't need to have that much going for them in their lives, guys have to have a life that goes above and beyond a relationship in order to be boyfriend material, but girls, not so much

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Yes, not only that, girls do not need to have things going for them, here is a good example:

"It’s okay for girls to want or need a boyfriend to complete them but never the other way around. Many guys and girls for that matter, view dating, relationships, having a boyfriend/girlfriend as something to fill the void in their lives. They think that once they get a boyfriend/girlfriend they will have “something to do”. If you have this mindset(and unfortuneately it only applies to guys) everything you say or do will drip with desperation rooted in the fact that you have no life, or one that you don’t enjoy. Loving your single life means that you have friends and hobbies, passions that you enjoy, and consider having a girl in your life as something nice to have, not a must-have. Guys with a vibrant single life are attractive to women who want to find out “what he’s all about”.

Guys who haven’t been successful with girls for most of their lives or all of their lives usually aren’t very happy with other aspects of their lives(I beg to differ, not every guy). Over the years, guys can get caught in a vicious cycle of letting themselves go, physically and mentally, until they have very little chance or no chance at all at attracting the type of girls they prefer. After a few initial failures, rejections with girls, some guys retreat entirely from any form of social interaction, preferring to play video games, eat fast food every night, and addressing only the bare minimums of personal hygiene.

Guys who let their lives deteriorate to hermit status can’t simply memorize an opener and expect it to work. It takes more than a well-delivered opener to catch a girl’s attention, and it starts with loving the life you currently have. True, there are people who absolutely love playing video games all night, by themselves, surrounded by take-out containers. However, since your reading this, you probably don’t fall into that category, and hopefully you have the capacity to admit to yourself whether you are enjoying your life or think that your life can use some improvement.

If you don’t really like the life you have at the moment, all is not lost. There are steps you can take, small and large, to improve how you view yourself and your circumstances. Whether or not you have a lot of disposable income, the goal is to completely fill your life with so many activities you enjoy that you have got to figure out how to fit a girl into your life. You want to be or look in a position where you choose to get involved with someone because it might make your life even better.

anonymousbastard · Accepted Answer

I agree 100%.

CrystalMinds · Accepted Answer

Ok, so if we can get approached without even doing anything, tell me how, because I never get approached :p haha

I disagree though. If a girl does nothing to keep the conversation going, it fades. A conversation is known to be between at least two people, if she doesn't work too, it's like talking to a wall and I don't know if that's a lot of fun since I've never tried it.

A lot of girls who have boyfriends go out too, you know. Just because someone has a boyfriend or girlfriend doesn't mean they should lock themselves up and stop going out. When I go out and I fancy a guy, I go up to him, well, I don't, but I try to get him walk up to me because I'd be embarrassed and I'd go all geeky and shy.

Next time I go out, I'll try the "hello" approach, I bet it won't work ;)

EntropicDecay · Accepted Answer

And because some guy wrote it in a book, it's supposed to be true ?

It's ridiculous, nowadays every one flirts. It's no longer stuck in a one-way flirt.

Besides, I'm pretty sure a "socially-inept, socially stupid, retarded, dumb, socially-awkward" girl would bore a guy quite quickly. (that was a lot of "socially, by the way...)

Girls who are in couple also leave the house, his argument is invalid.

starfishh_ · Accepted Answer

I kinda agree, I'm shy and socially awkward, but I still get a lot of guys pursuing me anyway. Of course, not always the type of guy I'm interested in. But, I think that guys are initially attracted by looks, then if the girl is too shy or socially awkward they lose interest later. That's why I'm trying to stop being shy ! :)

Anonymous · Answer

and it continues here "Whatever you love to do, might love to do, or used to love to doing are all areas you should explore in your community. Log off the computer and open an alternative weekly paper from your area and find people, places, and events that match your interests. It can be difficult to connect with random people, but it can be significantly easier if you stack the odds in your favor by frequenting the places in which you enjoy doing what you love to do.(girls, women, don’t have to do this).

Loving your single life gives you much more confidence when meeting girls. Since you already love your life, you aren’t looking for a girl to ‘complete’ you, so you won’t be desperate for any particular interaction to lead to a phone number, date, or more. When you’re living and loving your life, girls always notice and they’re curious why you have such a good time doing everything you do."

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Be interesting, improve yourself. In my opinion, this should be happening already even WITHOUT that girl you like in your life, but it definitely helps even more so on your off time. Check out museums, dine at nice restaurants, go rock climbing, explore! There is nothing more attractive then a well traveled and knowledgeable man. Remember, swag is for boys, class is for men

Believe in yourself and be assertive and you'll have better luck. That said, there is no "normal", so don't compare yourself to what other people are doing. I don't think you not having a girlfriend is abnormal, everyone has a different pace and life.

"Love will find you when you're not looking for it."

Stay busy, have lots of things you enjoy doing, be independent, and just be happy with who you are. Women are attracted to men who are confident and interesting. So if you're staying busy and enjoying life, women will naturally be more attracted to you.

Don't go out on a mission looking for the perfect girl because then you're putting too much effort into it and you come off as desperate and ignore the other great parts of living your life.

Instead, stay busy (you'll likely meet more girls if you're out doing new things), and believe me you'll meet the right girl when the moment is right.

You seem to like sports, so join a co-ed kickball or dodgeball team. Those are really popular with 20-somethings right now.

And even if you don't like the word desperate. That's how you'll come off if you come on too strong with a girl initially and don't appear to have a life."

girls, women, do not need any of those traits or qualities

Quadrophonic73 · Answer

On the bright side, guys have more value over the long term. Our 20s can suck but we gain more and more value into our 30s and 40s and score better and better women. Women's attractiveness plateaus in their mid 20s and nosedives after that. That's why so many of the girls in that age bracket are so sh*tty - they are trying to get in all the attention and rejections they can so when they're wrinkled and unwanted in 10 years they can say "Well I was beautiful and had it great, so whatever..." Guys can be handsome into their 50s. Women know they're screwed if they're not married by 40. All in all, sucks to be female.

MohammedF479 · Answer

A pretty girl wins 70% of the battle with looks alone, her kind personality finishes 10-20%, and if she gets a confident vibe and actually talks to guys, the rest is finished.

An ugly girl wins 10- 20% of the battle by looks, 80-90% of the battle by being outgoing, having a mixture of coy, cute, kind, and playful personality, and have that confident, chill, relaxed vibe that says "I'm ugly? So what? I can get guys anyway" All the guys who have no conversation skills will be in the background thinking how can they ever get her. Their overall FIRE wins almost all their battle, to simplify it.

Basically if you're "pretty", all you need is PERSONALITY and a vibe that says "I love life" and ACTALLY MEET guys, they'll come by the multitudes, they can't have excuses.. Ugly girls need what I said above.

NOTaTranny · Answer

Obviously. Males only have two options:

Method one: Have amazing interpersonal skills and a good body

Method two: Rape. (illegal)

Girls just need to not eat like a pig and maybe walk for 30mins a day and they will easily find a mate if they present themselves in public while wearing flattering clothes.. That's all they have to do.

While if males want a good body they have to eat specific foods and spend hours in the gym targeting specific muscles.

ieatcows · Answer

Wrong. women don't need them to ATTRACT a guy, guys don't care if they just are close minded and trying to sleep with her but GIRL or GUY, when you want a relationship you do need more then looks...whats the point otherwise...you can't fall in love with looks and if you think you can your shallow(not you but everyone)

you need common interests, conversations, understanding and communication to do that

also a girl going out of the house meaning she's available is so stupid sounding and untrue lol

soa88 · Answer

I understand what your saying, and I can see how it would be frustrated. There is so much more to a woman than her appeal to men though. If your looking for quantity through a variety of women, then yes. But QUALITY women focus on their own lives, dreams, and goals.

Do not focus so much on trying to be perceived as a guy who knows what he is doing. I like men who are happy, confident, and enjoy there life-single or taken. Seeing a guy who does not give a sh*t about what a women thinks is rare. On some level, of course it is important to attract women, date, and have fun, but if you are not okay doing things on your own, you are going to always think your missing something, when your really not.

You are right, women do not need those things to date, have a boyfriend, and to attract a man. But women need those skills to get through their own life, solve their own problems, and enjoy being alone because you WANT a woman like that. Good Luck!

JennyBenny318 · Answer

Oh really? Well I don't think that's true. I used to be very shy and yet I couldn't get any guys. Finally, I have overcome that shyness and now I can get guys. I got my guy from being confident, good social skills, people skills and I was funny.

justme20 · Answer

honestly you are wrong. it takes a lot of courage and confidence for us to say "hello" to a guy we like as well. we get nervous too! girls do need to have social skills, confidence, people skills, etc. you can't bond with someone who is pretty much dead in personality and other traits.

Habakkuk · Answer

well, sometimes the tables are turned and the girls are doing all the work. Such as in my case, as I'm extraordinarily lazy.

girlthatneedsanswers · Answer

your question reminds me of those music videos where the guy is singing to a girl and all she has to do is sit there and look pretty and say nadaaaa and the guy is so in love and attracted it makes me so annoyed LOL

frustratedchump06 · Answer

yeah, guys have to know how to talk to girls, but girls don't need to know how to talk to guys

jkdoub · Answer

Eurgh... dude, it can be really hard for girls too, okay? I think the problem is that girls want guys who are just out of their league and guys want girls who are just out of their league. They rarely get them, and both get bitter and resentful about it.

"The sad fact is that almost any girl in the world as [long] as she is average, cute, pretty, decent looking, can have any guy she wants by saying one word to him "Hello".

Bull. Shit.

GeneralSarcasm · Answer

ok in a way I actually disagree with this. women talk 10 times more than men... half the time when I talk to guys they are in their own little world. we have to work just as hard! unless she's some drop dead goregous girl than I kind of agree.. but come on, we have people skills. conversation skills. and we can be pretty funny

7gnat · Answer

So all they need is a vagina, 2 arms, 2 eyes, and 2 legs and a mouth to say uha uha uha?

Yeahhbro · Answer

no main girls need to know how to talk to, but I agree to a certain point though, guys need to know much more than men that's for sure.

Amber_sky · Answer

True...we are gifted for the modern age...specially here in india...girs are vry lucky...all girls get a guy...not true for the guys though.

Anonymous · Answer

i would agree with you that they are far more important for guys than they are for girls, no denying that

Anonymous · Answer

yeah, this really makes me hate being male at times

milakunis616 · Answer

I never get approached, and I am not very social. I think what you say is untrue.  I want to become Black Widow.

peace-love-couture · Answer

Millions of guys manage to talk to and hit on girls and they don't act like it's a struggle to put in effort

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