What specifically makes a guy boring, too predictable? people say that is why girls reject nice-guys

[Anonymous]

and what specifically makes a guy fun, exciting, unpredictable, because those are the traits that make a "bad-boy", and why do girls extremely crave, are attracted to guys that are exciting, unpredictable? is it an Instinct?

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also what makes the "nice-guy" a push-over, doormant, lets people walk over him, what are specific examples of that and how do I avoid, prevent that from happening?

[IsabellaPiano]

Okay I think we need to slow down and really get ride of your stereotypes and whatever.

Fact girls typically want a "Nice guy" but they don't want "Mr.Clingy/Mr.Doormat" most girls, at least mature girls that understand what works in life don't want to deal with the drama of a "Bad Boy"

Now why wouldn't a girl want someone boring? Well let me ask you this do you want a boring girl? No because nobody wants to be with a boring person, boring is boring, which means you want feel like your having fun with that person and you won't have a connection.

Traits girls want (and honestly guys too): funny, confidence, self-assurance, independence, dependable but not too available (we want people who have lives right?), intelligence, determination, ambitious, and class.

Traits girls avoid (and yes guys too): clingyness, low self-esteem, controlling, recklessness, abusive, undependable, doormats (aka the guy that will do anything little thing you ask because he's too afraid to loose you), promiscuity, and untruthfulness.

So yes we want a nice guy, someone who will want us for our personality and not want us for sex. Someone who will help and comfort us when we really need it. But we want someone who has guts and has his own thing going on, someone who is too busy to be texting us 24/7 just to have boring discussions like "hey, how are you?" Someone who will be honest with us but can do fun things we have in common with one another, like maybe a common sport you like even go to a museum...if your a nerd like me.

But no girls don't want some bad guy that does drugs and blows her off constants, who cheats on her and abuses her emotionally and/or physically.

I hope that makes clarifies things.

[IsabellaPiano]

sorry about the grammar mistakes

* "and really get rid of"

* "any little thing you ask because he's too afraid to lose you"

* "blows her off constantly"

* "I hope that clarifies things:

[MikeK]

A lot of this rings true, but I don't buy this "too available" bullsh*t... so what you're saying is that we really want someone who is hard to get a hold of? I will NEVER buy into this notion. I value punctuality - something that most people consider to be a curse these days. I understand the idea of living our own lives, but what's wrong with a little daily contact?

[IsabellaPiano]

What I mean by too available is someone who lives their lives around the romantic relationship and really doesn't have much of a job/hobby/friends outside of it. Like they want to see you ever single day. I value punctuality and am always on time but I like to plan things out so I know when we are both available.

[Asker]

well I think guys and girls each have a different perspective, different definition as to what makes someone a loser, is boring in their eyes

[Anonymous]

Girls like guys who are assertive and self-assured.

Specific examples:

Nice guy: "so what do you want to do tonight? It's all the same to me, as long as you're happy"

Assertive guy makes plans and leads the date.

Nice guys: "May I kiss you?" asks insecurely.

Assertive guy pushes her against the wall and passionately kisses her (disclaimer: may not be good for your first kiss).

[Asker]

even assertive nice-guys get rejected, and I mean they get rejected left and right, frequently

[pr3ttybr0wn]

Guys who never have an opinion of their own.someone who always agrees with whatever I say and kisses my ass and acts fake

Think of someone at work brown nosing the boss.

[MikeK]

True

[Asker]

how about what makes him boring specifically? give examples

[MikeK]

Try to mix it up a little bit - tease a girl once in a while, be kind of (kind of) mean to her... I guarantee you that it will work WONDERS.

I'm learning slowly that girls really don't like "bad guys", - women just get bored too easily LOL

[Cuddle_Muffin]

What I find boring is when a guy isn't funny... lacks intriguing things to say...constantly nags about depressing crap. Isn't out going. Doesn't have anything in common with me...etc etc...

[MikeK]

I.E. He speaks truth. He doesn't live in a fantasy land.

[Sbsbdicjf]

@MikeK I think you really missed the point of what she was saying.

Reaaons I won't explain are very simple... you simply won't understand anything I say unless it strictly aligns with your notions on how a human relationahip is carried out.

This isn't to say what I would tell you are cold hard facts, but I do believe they would get you farther than your approach. I know this because your answer seethed of bitterness. And I also know that trying something new yields different results.

[Anonymous]

i wonder the same thing sometimes I'm too nice and no wonder I'm single, guys always want the fiesty out there girls =/

[Asker]

having the "nice-guy" traits only screws guys, not girls

[Anonymous]

You and so many "nice guys" have it all wrong. Those traits aren't bad boy traits they're that of "fun guys". Once you understand that delusion your opportunities will expand.

[Asker]

give specific examples, detailed examples as to what makes a guy "boring", "too predictable"

[Opinion Owner]

You're too much work, lol. I will tell you that the reason girls like fun and excitement is the same reason guys do.

[Asker]

yeah but far more guys are willing to overlook "boringness" in a girl than the other way around, and that's usually because the guy is boring himself, but if a girl is boring herself, she most of the time will not want a boring guy

[Opinion Owner]

Sounds you just need to get laid

[Asker]

if only it were that easy, I've considered going to a hooker or escort

[Opinion Owner]

Girls want more interaction with guys in a relationship. Most guys just want to have sex with them is the reason you don't care if a girl is boring outside the bedroom.

[Asker]

yes, we guys make it easy for you girls

[Opinion Owner]

Then pursue easy girls like hookers and escorts. You don't want a girl who brings half her brain to the date then what I suggested is your best bet because it's ALL about sex to you guys. You're not interested in an intelligent "nice girl" you just want to get laid.

[Asker]

because even sluts, whores at bars and clubs, parties, they expect the guy to do the approaching as well

[Opinion Owner]

Then approach. I figure if that slut turns you down you will no longer obsess over her, least this is what many guys have told me.

[Asker]

and you girls still think we guys have it easier

[Opinion Owner]

This conversation is eight days old. You probably don't do well with girls because you're not consistent.

You do have it easier in most everywhere else in life.

[Asker]

how? how do we guys have it easier? and you are going to say pregnancy, periods, childbirth I bet

[Opinion Owner]

What you forgot to mention is you have more freedoms.

[Asker]

and your going to say we guys get paid more for the same job, but I'm willing endure women's struggles as long as I was able to get easy sex without paying for it and without having to initiate it

[Opinion Owner]

So you think we own the sex market while you rule the stock market. Fine. You control most of the world, least be grateful for that.

[Temporary46]

What do you do for fun?