Like... I'm allowed to be sexist because I'm a girl. You pay for everything. Give me a seat! Help me out please I don't wanna do it myself. Protect me and risk your own life!
And of course, the infamous "You can't hit me because I'm a girl, but I can beat you to a pulp"
And of course, the infamous "You can't hit me because I'm a girl, but I can beat you to a pulp"
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL you guys won't believe this but the feminists removed the MHO. LONG LIVE FEMINISM!!!
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Those are 2 different sets of women. Usually, I find traditional women who like the "special treatment". NOT the feminists. And for some reason, every (negative) thing a female does or says is associated with feminism. Got fucking damn anti-feminists are more rampant and annoying these days than fucking feminazis.
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Me, I am female, but I do pay for dates with men *GASP what? No fucking way!
And today, I gave up my seat not only to women, but men on the bus. *GASP WHAT?
I also helped some little old lady cross the street (if it were a little old man, I'd have helped too) *GASP huh?
I don't hit others, and I don't condone violence for either gender. But if they hit you, yea, I think you should be able to hit them back, male or female. BUT only use necessary force. NOT excessive force. Male or female. If a man slaps a woman, she can either walk away (I would highly recommend that) or hit him back, but not beat him to a pulp. That's not justified in my opinion. (Or vice versa)
As I said, the women who enjoy special treatment usually dislike feminism. But for some reason, some people think every woman is a feminist. NOPE. I agree with much of feminism, as with MRAs, but I consider myself more egalitarian.
I really hate when people ask questions like "Why do girls. . ." or "Why do guys. . ." Oh stfu. Y'all fuckers who ask these types of questions don't know every fucking girl or every fucking guy, so these generalizations are worth shit. If you said "some" or the ones you encountered fine. But you made very ignorant generalizations. Dumbass.
^ this 0_0
@Hephaestus thank you :3 lol
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I do love reading your opinions. When will you post some "takes". I bet they would be great!
@Red_Arrow lol thank you. But you might be the only one who likes my opinions! :x
I don't wanna post any takes cuz they'll just be more rants with a shitload of profanity and calling people dumbasses haha
I might consider it though :)
We still live in a pretty sexist world, even in the western world. But we do have some equality, too.
Being "a gentleman" (opening doors, paying for food, etc) is an ancient habit of the richest classes who deemed themselves "civilized" by treating the ladies "right". Remember that at those times a woman couldn't earn money or own a house, or even decide about the life of their children. And, since women were considered "too weak and fragile" things like carrying objects and opening doors were seen as "helping" those poor, weak women. Being chivalrous was a small repay for the non-existing rights of women. .
Now, when equal rights came in, it was only written on paper. The reality is, it's hard to change a cultural mindset. Many men are still expected to be the providers, even though women can work and earn.
So many girls are taught from a very young age that a good man is one that is chivalrous. So girls are born in a world where (at least on paper) they're equal to men, but culturally, they're still subjected to that same mindset of the old times.
I consider myself a feminist, and I don't find it right that men are still expected to do those things like it's a duty. I'm not for chivalry, I'm for KINDNESS. Really, free acts of kindness.
I sometimes pay for my boyfriend, or open doors for him. Because we're both broke-ass students, even though he always insists on paying. Sometimes I just can't pay, no matter how much I insist, maybe because it's so wired in him, too.
All women are entitled to equal rights. But not to "special" treatment. That's YOUR choice. You can choose to be KIND or you can choose to be totally and always equal. If your date doesn't understand it, then it's time to move on and find someone else.
But understand that, unless you're dating a narcissist, women who act like that just aren't aware of the history behind chivalry and gentlemen.
I'm laughing because this reminds me SO MUCH of my best friend who's a feminist. I don't remember the conversation completely but I remember saying, "so you want the benefits to be equal between guys and girls but not the responsibilities?" and she was like, "... ya" there are girls like this but then there are girls like me who just want plain "equality". Some girls don't understand that in some aspects guys and girls just aren't equal biologically. Men are typically stronger than girls and they can't seem to accept it. Like, I lift weights and I still accept that guys who don't as much as I do are still stronger than me because that's just the way we were built. My friend however, says that she can beat a guy up whenever he fucks with her and I'm all "you do realize you're setting yourself up to be murdered?" she's very small and scrawny also. I don't believe girls like that should ever be cocky about being able to beat up a guy. Sorry I kinda changed the subject so much but I agree with you completely and it bugs me too when girls are like this.
Actually she was setting up the guy to be thrown in jail.
These types of girls are also the ones who will abuse a guy over and over again yet the second he retaliates back suddenly she's running to the police playing victim making up a totally different story instead of what actually happened.
Exactly, I'm not trying to put anyone down in my response but it concerns me as to how naive people can be. I also don't like how girls take advantage of hitting/abusing guys like it's nothing but when they swing back, shits about to go down. Like, please don't set yourself up for this.
Feminists actually disagree with hurting others. They wouldn't promote non violence, then be violent to a man because they can. There certainly are double standards when it comes to men and women, but women and men can recieve help from one another when necessary. For example, maybe a man will help me with my tires and I'll help him pick out a present for his mom. Maybe he'll cook for me one day and I'll cook for him. It's a give and take thing between the genders, working together where there abilities fit best. Just because we strive for equality doesn't mean any of that should change. Sometimes men just want to help and give special treatment to girls because that's just how some men are. And it's also how some women are. You just haven't met mature women who can understand that and aren't asking to get special treatment.
If it is offered and we are willing to take the help then we will say yes. But those girls who are demanding of it have issues, those girls lack intellegence and maturity and demand things out of people. But we are not all like that, especially feminists that demand equality in the workplace and in general. Hope this helped.
Completely agree with you except the feminist part
You associate the term feminism with crazy girls. You should learn more about the term. It's basically the same as humanism. They just want equal rights. Don't assume.
No you should learn more about the history of feminism and look at some famous feminist quotes, Don't assume :P
That doesn't mean feminists are doing that? You're stupid. Not all feminists are bad.
Feminists (not all, but many) have been violent activists since the start of feminism. Several burned down houses, assaulted police officers. While most now probably don't don't believe in violence, you can't say "real" feminists don't because the original leaders of the movement did believe in violence when necessary for their movement. And that was past the realm of self defense
i doubt that you have actually found all of thoes characteristics in one girl.
I have noticed there are two types of girls that like to hit guys. One type of girl is always ready to hit a guy. She is on alert becasue she is typically crazy and has anger problems. She is always ready to hit him but she won't do it unless he cheates (she would actually probably chop his dick off if he cheats) or her if he just did something extremely disrespectful to her so she got mad and hit him.
The second type actually enjoys dating guys that she can hit (although she won't admit it). She is usually crazy too. She likes to be the bully, the boss, the master while he is the dog. she will call him names and belittle him too. She will hit him any chance she gets and usually over something small, say he walks in the room and trips over his own feet (the guy usually has no confidence) She will go hit him and tell him to toughen up and walk straight. Depending on how low the guys self esteem is, these relationships can varry in length from a year to a few years. the guy will leave her when he works up enough courage and gets his balls back, but she will turn right back around and find another guy that she can hit.
The girls that want a guy to protect her and save her life while she acts all weak is another type of girl and she is most likely not gonna hit a guy because she likes to act weak. If a burgerler came into her house, she is not gonna go fight him or shoot him, she is gonna scream for her man to do it.
there are girls who do not really care whether a guy pays for her or not because she was prepard to pay for herself and him anyway. Girls like this actually really do want to be equal and they are not punching a guy unless its self defence. They are trying to make money and get far in their carreers so that they can be independant of men. In the old days a woman could not survive if her husband or father died so being independant is a very good thing.
what you said is like saying all girls are the same because you have seen one girl do something. You shouldn't generalize people.
Calm down, the MHO has been decided.
nah i dont care about MHO, just gettin my point across. You asked a question out of ignorance so i am trying to inform you... However sinse you mentioned it, judging from your choice of MHO it seems more like your question was actually a rant and that you really were not looking for a real answer.
But could it be that you are regretting your MHO decision? after all choosing a MHO in less than 24 hours hardly gives people much time to respond. The website actually give you a whole month to get responses before you have to choose.
"since" not "sinse"
You're welcome :D
you still didn't answer my question so i will just take that as a yes
Personally I don't. That deciscion was made by men long ago in the "golden times" when they decided that they ran everything, and before you say it no I'm not a feminist I iust believe that we should have equal rights.
I'm perfectly capable of opening my own doors, paying for my own food, and standing on my own two legs though I do find it very sincere/romantic when guys do act like gentleman every once in a while, but like I said I can do it all myself. It doesn't have to be done on a daily.
And frankly I actually I do stand by the whole "you should never put your hands on a woman" it was just the way I raised. However, You do have a right to defend yourself. So in the circumstances that she is beating you into a pulp hit her back for peat sake! The "you should never put your hands on a girl" just means if you skis respect her, cheat in her, etc and she smacks you, steps in your foot, or even knees you in the balls no matter how bad it may hurt let it slide. But it the girl keeps hitting you common since most guys are stronger than girls push her to the side and walk away or smack her back. Defend yourself!
Uhhh. This is where I stand. I believe you should never hit another person, unless your life is endangered. And I believe that a man should not hit a woman back, but WHY do I believe that? Because if he does hit a woman back, no matter WHAT the reason is, he's going to jail. He's going to get the blame. No matter what the woman did--face it, ladies, we can get away with stabbing a man, but if he slaps back, or pushes you, he's in jail. Plain out. THAT is the only reason men should not, ever, hit a woman back. He will get the punishment. However, I DO believe that this is not right. I believe that a man SHOULD have the rights to strike a woman back, if she hits first. And I believe a woman should be able to strike back, if she is hit first. The way I feel is you never, never start a fight, but you ALWAYS finish it.
As for paying for my own dates--BLAME WOMEN? The few dates I've been on, when I try to pay, I'm not let to. I always offer, and always have a mini-argument over it, but the guy I date usually pays. Every now and then when I actually win the mini-argument, I do pay. So it's not all women that do that "men pay" thing. It's a lot of men that do it, too.
As for opening doors? I don't care if you're black, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, female, male, Martian, pink, green, or purple--though, some of those should be hospitalized--I'm holding the door open for you, and I expect the same treatment. It has nothing to do with gender/race. It has to do with being a respectful, polite human being. EVERYONE should open doors for EVERYONE. I don't care what gender I am, or you are. If you see me struggling with five bags on each arm, and slam the door shut in my face, DAMN RIGHT I am going to give you an earful, because damn straight I would have been holding the door open for you even if you just had a candy bar in your hand. I don't care.
As for protecting someone. Yes. I believe if you love someone, male or female, you protect them with your life. I would.
Some women are like that, some are not. It has been my experience that the ones who are like that are the leftard feminist misandrist loons.
I gave up extending the little social courtesies such as holding doors open for women, because I became tired of sour-faced angry feminists almost spitting at me as they told me that it was demeaning to them. Okay. The last one who said that, I let the door go while she was still half-way through it. Oops!
When I saw a woman struggling to change a tyre on the side of the freeway and I stopped to help I was abused for my trouble. After that, I was not inclined to tell her that she was trying to use the jack upside down.
Those incidents and string of other unhappy encounters with members of the sisterhood have made me disinclined to offer assistance to any woman whom I do not know.
As for not hitting a woman, not this man. I will not hit a woman first, but if a woman tries to hit me all bets are off. She has just put herself on equal footing with a man, so should expect what comes of that.
If she produces a weapon of any kind, she will be treated as any man. It is called self defence.
i actually only know a few who are like that, for the sake of argument i'll humor this
everyone has the right to their views and opinions, whether they're sexist, feminist, scientologist or even Illuminati doesn't really matter
i actually want to pay but i never get to, its common courtesy for guys to pay since the days of old and some women abuse this but some don't and others like myself would rather pay than burden them
i'm sure about the rest of the world but here at least seats (like in trains for example) are prioritized to the pregnant, disabled & old, if theirs a free seat its usually first claim rule, but some guys tend to let the girl sit instead, again common courtesy, its starting to get popular again due to increase in the number of grope/molestation cases in trains, very few women ever abuse this at least where i live
this tends to be a moderate issue, but there are those who don't want to do it themselves and those who just can't, for example girls aren't known to be strong, there are some things only guys can do, granted there are some who abuse this too much
err, wha? i dont even.. ... you do realise some girls dont like being weak and frail right? that some try to be able to defend themselves, guys tend to like the idea of being the white knight in shining armor but until you realize the feeling of being absolutely helpless, powerless & vulnerable you can't begin to understand, it hurts to be weak, sometimes no matter how hard we, i.. try, i can't fight..
guys invented this concept and some girls tend to abuse that, but here's a question, if you wanted to hit a girl, could you really? thats why it became an unwritten rule for guys not hurt girls, that and we're naturally a lot weaker than guys, i dont like the idea of some women who abuse and beat guys up (especially for those who choose not to fight) but you could easily do the same, guys often do much worse, and you have no idea just how much
You're not talking about girls in general, you're talking about the evil psychotic femnazis. But seriously dude, I don't even know about feminism anymore. When I first herd about it I wanted to be a feminist "equality for the he genders? Heck yeah I'll jump on that train!" But then the fake statistics about unequal pay came out and I was like "wait a sec...". The disturbing feminist propaganda video of little girls in princess costumes cussing on and on about shit they don't even understand is what drew the line. No way in hell am I gonna identify with these crazies. So back to plain jane equalism for me.
MHO material.
Feminism is about equality. I don't know any real feminist who acts like this. I'm a feminist and I always pay for my own meal or movie tickets when my boyfriend and I go out. Sometimes he likes to treat me and pay for me, but that's his decision, but I would never assume it of him. Feminist's certainly don't believe that it's okay to beat men! If a man can't hit a woman, then a woman can't hit a man, simple as that. Feminists are usually opposed to violence in any way shape or form. These girls that you know sound like assholes lol I don't know any girls like this at all.
I find that the women who expect this have been heavily influenced by society's outline of gender roles. They've had men treat them like princesses in the past so now that's what they want. If a guy does actually want to be chivalrous like that, he can be. It just shouldn't be expected anymore.
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Fortunately, most girls aren't like this. Most girls I meet realize that in some areas, they'll always have a disadvantage compared to men, and in other areas, will always have an advantage, and they like it that way, and don't complain much.
It's only a bitchy few who expect it to work both ways.
What areas?
Really? It isn't obvious?
no it isn't. I'm stupid
And omg what's so bad about wanting to be treated like an equal?
Nothing is wrong about being treated like an equal. What's wrong is wanting it BOTH ways - being treated like an equal when that benefits you, but being treated "like a girl" when being equal would work against you. In other words, like the girl in the meme I posted. She wants all the advantages of being a girl but none of the responsibilities of being an equal.
They are entitled to equal rights, but not special treatment.
Sure, some women do think they need to be treated special, but not all, not even the majority. Don't get with that type of women. The women you wanna be with are those that don't expect you to treat them special, they don't ask for it, but they will appreciate it like no one when you treat them special. These are the type of women that you just wanna be chivalrous with, because they don't expext you to do it, but they will definitely appreciate what you do.
i dont know what kind of fucked up date you had. in my case i treat women as people because they simply are which is mostly seen as refreshing, i dont know why guys make it out to be rocket science to be or how to treat a woman. if you are cool, sophisticated and have your shit together its not a matter of entitlement from either side. I usually pay start up bills since I like to share and give, to friends, gender neutral. Mostly this is greatly accepted and after that nice dinner when we are hitting the cool, hip lol, cocktail bar i get drinks paid by my date. I dont go for stereotypes, these are not the people I spent dates with. If you are an interesting guy and you have a good time together does it really matter who pays or not pays what. Hello 2014...
I can assure you, no reasonable person, guy or girl, wakes up one morning and says themselves "Gee, wouldn't it be fun to hit someone who can't lay a finger on me?"
Secondly, there are differences between men and women. This has nothing to do with equal rights though; they aren't any less human. Yes, girls will respond positively to this "chivalry" or whatever you call it and why shouldn't they given where they're coming from? Sure, there are some that take it too far, but most of these have serious unresolved emotional issues that they're dealing with.
â–²this guy right here
Lol special treatment and equal rights are not the same thing, first of all.
Second, not all girls want the things you say. If I slap a guy he has a right to hit me back- though it would be better if he didn't and I apologized just because he could hurt me much more (men tend to be stronger).
Oh, and also. In my case I don't make the guy pay for dates at all. I pay for myself to be considerate. If he really wants to pay I let him and show my appreciation later, just because it's awkward to fight over the check.
I get my seat too lol. And I don't expect anyone to sacrifice their lives for me.
You need to find girls that aren't entitled like that. Because there are girls like me who wouldn't expect those things of a guy.
And I hope you don't think all girls think like the way you wrote your question. Lol. I'm one of many exceptions.
Honestly I think feminism is a good thing but many people are coming about it in the wrong way. I personally believe if I do the same job as a guy I should get paid the same but I also believe if I smack a person they have all the rights to smack me back whether they're male or female.
From what I've seen many girls think to be a powerful intelligent woman you cannot be submissive or do dainty girly things but I don't see it like that. I find that a girl can be a housewife and still run a successful business, she can be submissive when she wants to and as aggressive as she needs to be when she wants to be.
And I also don't believe in the whole guys should ask the girl out first thing because well I don't know I just find it absurd like if I want to pursue somebody I will as long as they allow me to. And I've noticed because I believe in this^^ my relationships usually goes pretty well.
The same reason some guys think it's okay for them to sleep around, yet girls who do it are sluts, they want women to pay for dates, but don't want to do housework - we're all selfish. We want the good part of equality and the convenient part of traditional ways.
Refreshing to see this is coming from a guy. I agree, entitlement goes both ways. If I'm not mistaken, on another online site I've seen some guys who keep complaining about the ''not hitting girls'' double standard and how ''it's suppose to be equality yada yada'' but yet they were sloot-shaming girls that have casual sex and called them damaged goods and how they wouldn't considered her gf material while they have their fun themselves (and the woman has to accept them as bf material, esp the low count types they're looking for LMAO) . So suddenly what happened to their so call ''Oh I'm fighting for equality, blah, blah''.
only girls do slut shaming
some guys do too
its not a social problem. Its the girls who need to stfu and stop being nasty to each other
There will always be nasty people of both genders. If none of the guys are sloot-shaming then what can be said about this post:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1220201-if-a-girl-had-a-boyfriend-but-still-a-virgin-is-she-still-wife
In there, the guy isn't a virgin himself but expects the girl to be waiting for him till marriage.
That's double standard right there too and double standards are just what those guys don't want.
I'm only talking about forward thinking people. I don't know what muslims you hang around, but... ah nvm
For me the real equality the women needs is not about those trivial things like you said. 'special treatment'.. The real issue with women's inequality is the unequal opportunity in social, work, economic, education politics etc etc. There are millions of women around the world who are unfairly treated in these vital foundations of society. We need equality because by taking out the women in these sectors, it's the same thing as taking out the chances of potential smart people making changes for the society for the better. It is not fair for the millions of women to be taken out the opportunity to achieve something greater because of something they didn't have control from... which is being a woman.
That's the real equality the women needs. Maybe some people don't see the need for equality because they are happy from the comfort they have, but for millions of women who doesn't have the luxury; they beg to differ.