Why do so many women act stupid when it comes to dogs?

[Anonymous]

I have lived with pets (mostly dogs) for most of my life. My family has a old jack russell terrier who has definitely been a part of the family growing up. I'm going be sad the day she has to leave. However I always recognized her as pet (not a bro or sis).

With that said I've met a lot of stupid people who put dogs above humans and they're usually women and I just don't get it. They see the animal as some sort of "golden child" and somehow expect other people to immediately feel the same way. My old roommate was a chubby woman in her mid 30s who had a pet poodle that she used to put bows in her ears and place wall decorations involving the dog. The dog would crap and bark constantly with zero discipline. When ever their was incident involving the dog (the dog ate a chocolate protein bar out my backpack one time) it was always MY FAULT. Not her fault for not disciplining it nor the dog's fault for being an idiot (their are smarter dogs then poodles). Being in her mid thirties and overweight (and admittedly "picky" when it comes to men... delusional fatso...) the dog was obviously a replacement for a kid. However what makes her think that everybody will recognize the dog the same way?

My sister-in-law had a pitbull/black lab mix around when she had her first kid (my niece). My family were extremely upset about having that kind of dog around the baby... but my sister-in-law insisted on keeping it. Month later she finally gave in and let it go. But what the fuck ladies? When does your fucking dog take precedence over you newborn child!

I like these two women otherwise (well I don't like my ex roommate... but I do like my sister-in-law). They're usually pretty much reasonable/rational... but what is it about a dog that makes their brains function like you have been sniffing glue for the past 10 years? A dog is a dog. It's an animal. Yes they're great pets... man's (or woman's) best friend. But that doesn't change the fact they are an ANIMAL not a human.

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I have had a several other past incidents with dogs including an old roommate who stuck his rottweiler on me when we got in street fight (that he started). He was a white trash moron so I wasn't surprised. However I do see women more often then men acting irrational about when it comes to prioritizing the dog.

[Ccmeu]

I hate it when people treat dogs like they are their own children. Sure, you can love on them and treat them well all you want, but if you must have one you properly train it. I have a dog that I love to death, but he has been well trained. No matter how much I love him, I love my family more. I simply do not understand people who put their puts above their own flesh and blood.

Going back to him being well trained - I dog sit extremely frequently for many of my neighbors and I have noticed a trend. The dog who are well trained have really sensible owners, they love their pets, but still see them as pets. The dogs who misbehave and are horribly untrained have nice owners who are a little too nice. They're like the stereotype bad parent who lets their child get away with murder and rewards them for it. It makes me think that it's a particular type of person who behaves this way, not just women.

[Ccmeu]

*not just because they're women.

[Asker]

I did generalize about women... but it's because I have seen more incidents involving women acting irrational about their pets. You don't see men putting bows in a dog's hair. They feel like their being mean if they try to discipline their dogs... but in reality dogs LIKE structure and discipline (I read a scientific article about this).

[Ccmeu]

You did, that's why I generalized about my experiences, and suggested that perhaps it's a type of person. Totally not shooting down your theory. :)

It's true, you don't see men dressing up their dogs, but I have seen single men with pretty badly behaved dogs.
Yeah, I'm not surprised that dogs thrive on structure. After all, before they were domesticated they functioned in structured dog packs.

Regarding some women thinking they're being mean by disciplining their dogs. I think it has to do with a really strong but unused maternal instinct. A lot of the women who have dogs that they dress up are and let rule the roost (if you haven't noticed) are single, have been so for a long time, and are past the early 20s. My theory is that they're lonely and feel like the chances of them having a baby are slim, so they use the dog as a substitute. Or even if they're married and/or have a child, they're using the dog to fill some kind of void. It still doesn't excuse poorly trained animals,

[Ccmeu]

but if you think about it like that, it's actually kind of sad.

[Asker]

well my old roommate was exactly that kind of person. She was in her mid 30s, overweight and had a bad attitude towards men. If her dog brings her companionship and happiness... all the best for her. What pissed me off is that she expected everybody else to feel the same way about her dog. I had a falling out with her over the stupid ass dog. I know I'm being judgmental myself... but it was a pristine example of how some people put dogs above humans.

[xHoneyxBeex]

Yeah, I get what you're saying, I've noticed that a lot also. I love dogs but I have never been the type to prioritize an animal over a human and I don't think that makes me a bad person.

I have actually heard people say if there was a burning house, they would get their pets out first before trying to save the humans in the house/building and in my honest opinion, I just find that to be so insane! I mean yes, I would go back and try to save my pets but only if all the human beings in the building were out first.

As for the examples you gave, I think it's silly to treat a dog as if it were a child but, at the same time, that's much better than abusing the animal.

[Asker]

I don't believe in abusing animals. However what these "dog lovers" don't get is that animals LIKE structure and discipline. Similar to how a young child needs discipline... but even more so. That doesn't mean kicking your dog around the house. It means yelling at it to get down when they jump on somebody, training it which includes commands and instructions. I even go as far to say that "barking collars" are appropriate when the dog is out of control.

[xHoneyxBeex]

I agree that dogs should be disciplined. The last thing I want is someone else's dog jumping on me, I also don't like when a dog begs for table food when I'm eating. They should be trained that it's not okay to do certain things.

[CHARismatic110]

Someone in these comments said something similar to your burning building example and I'm just like "huh"? How can you say that? I think she used car accident as her example.

[xHoneyxBeex]

@CHARismatic110 yeah, it's crazy! I mean yes, the animals should be saved as well but the first priority should be the human beings in the situation.

[xHoneyxBeex]

Thanks for MH :)

[linkywinky]

Wow holy shit, you suck. Dogs give you unconditional love without asking too much in return, they are literally always there for you to defend you and love you and comfort you.

You are their whole entire world, you're the reason that they have what they have. They give you the entirety of their tiny little hearts. They put their TRUST in you.

How the hell are you going to tell me that you don't feel like they're special when they give you all of that? And all they ask in return is food, water, and a warm place to rest their bones.

[Ihav2fart]

I was waiting to see what you'd comment. I am not disappointed.

[p0rtis26]

They do it because they do not know any better. They can't reason like a human linkywinky.

[linkywinky]

@p0rtis26 Dogs aren't hardwired to love humans, don't be ignorant.

[p0rtis26]

I never said they were, but it is an instinct.

[Metlahead]

@p0rtis26 you don't know what hardwired means, do you?

[Asker]

read the opener "you suck" and realized you suck more at making a rational argument. How many people can you get to agree with you when your first few words are "wow holy sit, you suck". In way you are proving my point. This post was about women being irrational...

[linkywinky]

I'm not sure who hurt you the most, a woman or a dog?

[p0rtis26]

@metlahead and animals that have no logic are better than humans, aren't you a credible one

[p0rtis26]

@metlhead nope guess not my kindergarten education must have missed that word.

[jakeofalltrades]

I agree with you, my mom had a dog and he would always piss in my room, and only my room. once he even pissed on my laptop. But was it the dogs fault, no. it was my fault for leaving it where he could piss on it. and when it was just on the floor she would just laugh about it. fucking dog.

that being said I don't agree with what you said about the pit-bull mix. just because they are not bad dogs, they only have a bad reputation. if the dog never showed any signs of aggression there was no reason to make her give up the dog.

[Asker]

The pit was around a new born baby in small condo. I actually liked the dog myself. He was always playful (a little goofy) but never showed signs of aggression. However what if the dog gets jealous of the baby? Deadly animal attacks on little kids are rare... but they DO HAPPEN. Why take the risk when comes to life of you're own kid?

[jakeofalltrades]

because you can't let your life be ruled by what ifs, plus it isn't like they were planning on leaving the baby alone with the dog, that would be bad. but most dogs are really good with children. also what did she do with it did she give it away or did she put it down?

[Asker]

she gave the dog to some relatives. There was absolutely no reason to put it down.

[p0rtis26]

Finally some common sense I love animals too, but they are animals not humans. Animals can't reason like humans can whether that is for better or for worse. They do have really good instincts sometimes though.

[rthomas43]

How does the fact that they aren't human play into this? As far as I know, nobody is saying they are.

[p0rtis26]

People treat them like humans rthomas, clothing them, grooming them, kissing and licking their face which they use to lick their butt hole with. I am stating animals and humans are distinct based on their reasoning abilities @rthomas43

[Asker]

nobody is saying they are but some people go wayyy to far

[rthomas43]

The clothing stuff is just for the owner's enjoyment, the pet couldn't care less. Grooming is good for a dog's health.

For the record, science is discovering more and more about the brains of animals. Many species demonstrate the ability to reason as well as a sense of self-awareness.

[p0rtis26]

ok rthomas43 why do I care who's enjoyment it is, the notion dogs need clothes is ridiculous. They have fur Mr. Science and evolution. Also since your dog reasons ask him to read a book and then bark to you what he read.

[p0rtis26]

@rthomas43

[rthomas43]

I would hate to see how you treat a person with Down Syndrome.

[p0rtis26]

whos*

[p0rtis26]

@rthomas why are you generalizing me now lol, isn't that hypocritical? And I had a teacher who's son had down syndrome and I was nice to the guy. He was on our high school basketball team, and at the end of the game with about 20 seconds left coach put him in the game. He took one shot and miserably air-balled but it was a good story and he was extremely happy.

[Asker]

I get worried what else a person might want to do with a dog if they go out way to buy them a wardrobe...

[p0rtis26]

@rthomas43 oops

[rthomas43]

First, that's an awesome story.

I did not say that dogs could reason. But it is possible that they have primitive reasoning skills.
Many primates do. And if animals can reason, the only difference mentally between them and humans is IQ.

[rthomas43]

I'm aware that it isn't the "only" difference, but I'm talking big picture.

[p0rtis26]

oh my goodness so cats & dogs (the movie) is reality who would have known

[p0rtis26]

@rthomas43 ok ok I will revise my statement to dogs having simplistic reasoning skills and instincts.

[rthomas43]

You don't believe in evolution, do you?

[p0rtis26]

You know I don't RT, we talked about this when I first joined GAG. We have opposing world views but we are both sports guys. @rthomas43

[justbanANNAz]

LOL thats funny. yeah I don't know y women will dress their dog up like some kinda baby, unless it's just for fun then i find it SUPER CUTE!!
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ahahahaha <3

anyway iv had dogs all my life and while i love them a lot, i know that they aren't equal to humans in terms of our interactions ONLY. but in everything else, i aim to take care of him/her in the best way i can. my animals are important to me, but my own child would be of greater importance, of course.

[justbanANNAz]

ok what the flamin hell happened to my answer?^^ -.-

[Kris85]

I don't really care how other people treat their pets, as long as they treat them well but I am not a huge dog fan, I like them and I have had them before but to prioritize them over my children? Definitely not.

[Asker]

thank you. I believe in treating pets well too. However when you put them above humans... their definitely something psychologically screwed up with you.

[Beautifiedgirl123]

Oh wow, seriously. Dogs love you no matter what. It's called unconditional love. Humans are selfish creatures. We are made to think of ourselves. They will always be there no matter what, you can't say that for all humans. Dogs have a heart of gold, something that's very rare for people.

I swear if there was ever a car accident where a dog ran in front of the car. The the driver hit the dog and crashed into a pole or some sort of wall. Yea I'd run to save the dog. Call me whatever you want, I couldn't care less. I don't have a dog now but I've had plenty growing up and their love has probably been more for me than some of the most important people in my life. It really makes you question people

[p0rtis26]

Well yeah they don't know any better, their thinking and instincts are simplistic.

[Beautifiedgirl123]

@p0rtis26 how would you know. So now you know what goes on in a dogs head

[p0rtis26]

I will leave it up to the dog whisperer.
https://www.dogbreedinfo.com/articles/humandog.htm

[Beautifiedgirl123]

@p0rtis26. Wow so bothered. Hats off to you mate

[p0rtis26]

so bothered huh?

[Beautifiedgirl123]

@p0rtis26 bothered: take the trouble to do something.

As in you took time and trouble to go and post a link to prove something :)

[p0rtis26]

Is that an Aussie phrase saying you don't feel like looking at the link?

[p0rtis26]

And no trouble I am glad I could be so helpful and informative to you. Just trying to educate my fellow dog lovers

[Beautifiedgirl123]

@p0rtis26 lol the word bother/bothered isn't an Aussie phase or word.

Fyi... I don't need to look at a link to know something. Plus even if dogs don't know any better and their thinking and instincts are simplistic. At least it's better than that of some people. I'd rather have that in my life then d***heads

[p0rtis26]

I agree and are you insinuating that I am a dickhead?

[Beautifiedgirl123]

@p0rtis26 oh no absolutely not. That wasn't meant at you

[p0rtis26]

oh ok gotcha

[ShaeNielson]

You can have a dog and a child at the same time, they're not killer machines. I agree that they should be recognized as pets, not humans! It's borderline abuse when people put clothes on them, carry them around, give them spa days and manicures. I am repulsed by that, dogs need long walks, playing in the nature and love along with discipline. They aren't dolls or teddy bears.
I think people who treats them like dolls or babies, have some problems and need something somewhere else in their life. A dog who gets treated like that, will never be happy.

[Asker]

The most sensible response to this post comes from the youngest user. I agree with most of what you said... but I still having pit bull mix around a new born baby is a bad idea. Their not "killing machines" but incidents do happen. Why take the risk? This is your newborn baby you are talking about.

[ShaeNielson]

Why thank you :)
I don't believe pit bulls are more aggressive as a race, than other dogs, they just get the wrong owners more often, because the poor things are seen as "cool". It depends on the owner and the mentality individual dog. A Labrador can kill too, but those are not "cool" dog breeds to own, and most families (who are more likely to own such a dog as a Labrador) would not train it to attack or be aggressive. Pitbulls and other breeds like them, have gotten a bad reputation, and are getting blamed for naturally doing, what their owners have trained them to do. I would not put my newborn at risk, and by that I mean I wouldn't leave the child with the dog or "force" them to be too close to each other. If you plan on getting a child whitin a few years, and won't have dog and child under the same roof, then do not get a dog at all. It's not fair to the dog.

[rthomas43]

" A dog is a dog. It's an animal"

So are humans.

I will say that it's ridiculous that some people place dogs ABOVE humans, but there is nothing wrong loving and treating a dog like it's part of the family, because it is.

[Asker]

well that's how I felt about my family dog. I've always helped take care of her and she was part of the family. However if my dog ever attacked and/or pestered someone I would immediately restrain the dog and apologize to the person. I realize that person might not view my pet the same way I do.

[Phoenix98]

I don't know lol, I mean dogs are animals, but are also cherished family members to and best friends. There easy to bond with and they are the most loyal creature on earth, when the world goes to hell and everybody runs away a good dog will be there right at your side. But I agree women take it to the extreme by dressing them in outfits and putting them in purses that's going to far for me lol.

[skullly]

Woah! Are you seriously crying about this? Drama queen! When guys do the exact same things but about CARS!!! which is highly pathetic considering that a car is not a living thing, and cannot feel! whereas a dog, just like a human can feel and show emotion. I don't know about treating them higher than humans, but they certainly should be treated as equal...

People are so ignorant at times, for example before, animals were treated and operated without any anesthesia, because they assumed they didn't "feel" wtf? what kind of moron thinks that a living thing cannot feel when being opened with a knife? Brainless, just as this complaint... if you don't agree with it fine, we are all different bu don't sit here and cry about it wanting them to change their point of view into yours, when guys do far more ridiculous things. The End.

[Asker]

amazing how the younger women on here can respond to this post with self control instead of starting off with "drama queen" and other insults. Way to grow up.

[skullly]

Pathetic.

You're calling people stupid for loving their animals, and I call you drama queen, cause that's what you're doing here... crying over something, when men do far more ridiculous things, and we're not complaining. Stop crying, if you don't like it, find a girl and surround yourself with people who think like you.

[Asker]

Do cars crap on your carpet and bark all the time? You obviously can't be reasoned with so go cry to your furry barking husband and give him a doggie treat after he does you doggie style.

[BelleGirl21]

I love my dog but she's definitely on the level of a pet, not a child. I notice that behavior in men and women alike though.

[Asker]

Thank you. I did make generalization towards women in this post... but I have met a few idiot guy dog owners as well (remember cousin eddy in Christmas vacation with his "pride and joy" snot?

[Kris85]

I love cousin Eddie and I love Snot too. Especially when he horks under the table and up chucks the bone

[Asker]

Clark" "hey kids I heard a news report that Santa is on his way" Eddie: "you serious Clark?"... lol

[BelleGirl21]

Hilarious show! I love the griswalds!

[CHARismatic110]

Well I'm afraid of dogs. I don't have any problems with people who have them tho and I understand that they become like family. I do have problems with people who look at you with the disgusted face when you say you're not a dog person. They get mad defensive. I'm like sorry, not everyone likes dogs. That doesn't make me a bad person.

[Asker]

I think most of the responses below are from "dog persons". Why do they think everybody else feels the same way they do.

[CHARismatic110]

I have no idea. Like I said, I don't mind dog people. I do mind that some of them treat non dog people like less of a person.

[been_waiting]

And I've seen guys that treat their dogs like rag dolls and feel no remorse over it.

I guess we just have different feelings towards dogs. Men think they're "masters" of their dogs and their almighty god while women think their the dogs overly gentle mother.

[rthomas43]

... That was as ignorant of a generalization as the asker's.

[been_waiting]

@rthomas43 well maybe I know some shitty guys but fr most of my guy friends are borderline abusive to animals.

[rthomas43]

Then you need to find new guy friends, because that isn't normal.

[been_waiting]

@rthomas43 i'll put an ad on Craigslist.

[Ihav2fart]

Yaaa what rthomas said! I've had a variety of pets and treated them better than I treat my parents!

[been_waiting]

@Ihav2fart well... I didn't literally mean all guys nor all girls, but I'm glad to hear that.

[rthomas43]

Please don't =l

[been_waiting]

@rthomas43 too late cuh already got 12 responses

[Asker]

Not sure what you faith is Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." Genesis 1:26. If you're an atheist fine... but for Christian women out there you should know this.

[been_waiting]

I'm atheist... but regardless, "rule over" doesn't mean "treat them like they're insignificant. "

[Asker]

yeah rthomas43 I'm just so ignorant that I worry about well being of my newborn niece because some is love with their dog.

[been_waiting]

How is the well being of your niece being threatened?

[Asker]

because dangerous/deadly dog attacks on little children DO HAPPEN? They are rare... but as a parent why would you even consider the risk?

[been_waiting]

Now you're reaching

[Asker]

reaching? en.wikipedia.org/.../Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

[Your_boss960]

Yeah like me and my BFF had a fight once. And when we made up...

She told me how she loves her dog, and how her dog is like a sister to her, and how her dog never betrayes her, and how she and her dog are BFFS and do everything together, and how her dog will never leave her. And how she just loves her dog so so so much.

It was kind of offensive, but oh well

[DamanMannn]

They can replace humans for all I care,
The more I get to know people, The more I enjoy my Dog's company.

Go ahead and put a gun in a dog's "Hand".
You'll never hear a story about what a negative impact on life, a gun has.

[XNicholeMariex3]

... I cried when my fish died.
It's called feeling love.

These animals are not just pets, they are family.

[linkywinky]

thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis.

[Klaatu51]

i hate it when some women (old women mostly) dress up their dogs...

ugh it looks corny... not even funny

[1fingerpunch]

I have seen bad dogs and good dogs.

Dogs are like humanbeings, their character differs from each dog.

not every dog is loyal.

Some are outgoing, some are shy, some are brave, some are chicken.

Some dogs would be with you, protect you, no matter your rich or poor, how dangerous the situation your in is if you treat them well.

Some people that love you can do that too,

But these loyal and unselfish dogs are way much better than these bloody, selfish, cold humanbeings.

[1fingerpunch]

I just mean never makes a simple generation.

[1fingerpunch]

generalization*

[Asker]

I like dogs too... but I'm talking about extreme behaviors that are supposed by "tolerated" by non dog lovers.

[1fingerpunch]

I feel you.

Nope, I don't think an average dog is better than an average human.

And nobody has to tolerate the Extreme Behavior just when it comes to dogs.

[Izzex3]

Humans are animals too.
Thinking of a dog or cat as a family member or friend and loving them doesn't make someone stupid.

[Asker]

there is a difference between loving your pet and putting it above humans.

[Izzex3]

If people love their pets and prioritize them over some humans they don't know or love so what?
If people love their pets and put them on the same level as humans so what?
Let them.
Calling someone stupid just because of that is ridiculous.

[Asker]

I'm talking about putting your dog above your own kid.

[Izzex3]

Just because she didn't want to get rid of her dog that others didn't care for doesn't mean that she put it "above" her child.

[Asker]

it's a pit bull mix. I actually like the dog myself... he's always playful and friendly. However dogs can get jealous. A newborn baby is completely defenseless and attacks DO happen. Why take the risk? en.wikipedia.org/.../Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

[Metlahead]

Because dogs are better than humans, it's the truth.

[nimbus24]

If you haven't love your dog just like them then this is something you won't understand.

[Asker]

maybe that's the case, I'm not sure. I do know I would never put a newborn baby in a potentially dangerous situation. Attacks are rare... but they DO HAPPEN. Thanks for providing a logical point and not going off on some hate rant like some of the morons below.

[nimbus24]

We all have different perspective if we haven't feel what that person feels then we surely wouldn't understand them no matter how many words of explanation they would give. If you think its too much for other people to treat their animals like one of their kids then that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. As long as you don't abuse or hurt animals then you're not wrong to believe that way.

[msg812]

i think females are usually more merciful and sensible than us males. i think this is the reason

[Asker]

Merciful... maybe... but sensible? And not disciplining your dog is no way "merciful" in fact it's quite the opposite especially when the dog is pestering (or even attacking) other people. For all I care a woman can do what she wants with the dog. However she needs to get her head out of her ass when she expects everybody to feel the same way about it.

[blondfrog]

Way to make such a big generalization I've heard of plenty of women who put their pets above humans if anything.

[Metlahead]

Comprehension skills: Needs improvement

[blondfrog]

Oh I read that wrong whoops still I treat most pets better than humans especially dogs cause they are dogs are very loyal and I love them. Most humans have hurt me so due to my experiences I am going to love dogs more than humans about 8/10 times oh yeah by they way I am a guy.