Guys you seem frustrated with women. Am I right?

[xandra_smiles]

I have read so many questions from men who seem fed up with the way that women act in our society these days. Everything from women are given free rein to be a witch to they are most likely going to take over the world. I think our society has loose and confusing gender roles right now and I would like to say Yes! I am also frustrated. I do not like not knowing what I should do in situations to both keep my own sanity and the guy from hating me. I worry about my own decisions being similar to these apathetic women, Not to say that I am not frustrated with men too. I think we have a lot of gender reformation happening that is confusing to some. But lets open this up to venting right now. Go ahead and comment on anything I touched on or do your own thing. Why might you be frustrated with women? What could we do to alleviate any of this stress?

[j5679]

I for one am frustrated by the fact that if I go out to the bar or the club, I either have to be this guy who dances with random women which I have entirely opted out of because I hate it to the point I refuse to go to the club for any reason. If I goto the bar, I am judged for going on my own and viewed as a loner since I don't depend on my friends who are unreliable at best when asked to come out. In the event that I am out by myself as a guy you are expected to walk up to groups of women who are either all talking to each other or on their phones. I don't know how many times other guys have tried to talk to a girl who is transfixed on their phone but it's harder to get their attention than winning the lottery.
There's also the fact that the whole dating scene has been turned upside down with apps like tinder, and so just going out to where a lot of people are means nothing because a lot of them are already meeting up with someone. So the chances of hitting it off with a girl while you've already mustered up the energy to get ready, go out, approach a women and awkwardly try to get some momentum has dramatically dropped because she has already found someone or isn't actively looking for relationships if a girl is out.
So what's a guy to do when the club/bar scene sucks and you are over the whole awkward online dating thing... being exhausted and burned out where a video game and a beer becomes more fulfilling.

[bassman]

We have all been brainwashed mostly by Hollywood.. on how girls and guys are suppose to act. The internet is full of all the so called tricks...secrets and Rules.. who came up with rules anyway? My favorite is.. if a guy doesn't call a girl in 3 days..it means he's not interested! Ha ha ha! Dating is womens turf.. guys have some how fallen behind. When it comes to dating... guys have BB guns while women have F-16's! Women have it easy..just sit back.. look pretty.. and watch the goofy guys come running to bow down at your feet and tell you how great your are..don't get me wrong.. women are the greatest thing on the planet.. but most guys have the wrong approach... Guys speak English.. women speak Womanese. Let me rephrase my previous comment.. Clinically sane women.. with good attitudes are the greatest. Guys run around doing the Picking.. while girls relax do the Choosing. Poor poor guys.. if its not the media.. talk show host...womens magazines...etc bashing men..its the wives dragging their poor confused husbands to divorce court! Ok... I feel better!

[xandra_smiles]

Yay! I'm glad :)

[bassman]

Yeah.. I am too..I have officially Figured out the woman species... aka... the most dangerous creature on the planet.

[xandra_smiles]

Lol. You should write an instruction manual if you have that figured out, considering I have not figured out either species.

[bassman]

The manual would be priceless..nobody could afford it! LOL

[slipslender]

i'm frustrated with women. they're catty, hold onto grudges, love to backstab, and are WAY too fond of the silent treatment.

i suspect there is no cure.

[xandra_smiles]

100% agreed

[MrPhox]

Due to our evolutionary history, women are more valuable than men are. On a basic reproductive level, you don't need a 1:1 ratio of men:women to propagate the species. Men can inseminate multiple women, while women can only carry one man's seed at a time. This leads to a lot of competition between men, giving women the power of selection to choose only a small fraction of men as winners, while leaving the majority as the losers. So there are a small few men who have got it made for themselves. They are who all the articles are written: "Why don't men want to commit?" "Men are jerks" "Where are all the good men?"

Google the term hypergamous. Women are mostly hypergamous.

So although we have a modern monogamous cultural heritage, our even older evolutionary heritage comes from a time when humans were polygamous like many pack animals are in the wild.

Men only require women to be healthy enough to have children, it's always worth the gamble of trying to inseminate another woman, that's diversifying his portfolio so to speak. The woman can only carry a single seed at a time, so they are pickier.

Women have 2 full X chromosomes, while men have a single X and a Y which is just a small fraction of an X chromosome in amount of genetic information. This results in more genetic mutations/anomalies in men, that render them inferior genetic stock. Women get the benefit of having a secondary backup X chromosome to draw healthy genes from, and thus aren't as subject to the mutations located on a single X chromosome.

This is why there are more males who suffer from colorblindness or just about any other genetic issue that people could have.

Culture, Television, magazines, internet etc... none of these things can undo nature. Back in the day, women would rather take turns with an "Alpha male" than have their own "Beta." Unless that beta can help with her kids or share his amassed wealth with her, should would rather have what everybody else is having.

[fuuuark]

Yeah bateman's principle. Although the anomalies sometimes favour the men, the top and the bottom of most things are men, as in men have a more unstable genetic makeup that will produce more men with mental disabilities and low Intelligence, but there will be more men who are geniuses (for example there are 8 times as many registered male genius IQs) and have favorable superior genetic traits (these men will be the alphas and have superior reproductive fitness to even the most attractive women).

[MrPhox]

The Bateman's principle will also allow feminists to cry patriarchy forever. So long as they are only focused on the few men who are rich and powerful, and ignore the countless others in prison, or working low pay dangerous jobs.

[fuuuark]

Feminists have always held an apex fallacy, like i said, the richest, smartest, most powerful and most influential people will always be men, but the poorest, most stupid, least powerful and the downright lowest level of society will always be men too. Feminist look at the men at the top and say "look how good men have it".

[Cannedheat]

Women frustrate me in a sense that some just don't know how to make up their own mind or are just generally bad at decision. Most don't know who they are or what they want to do with their life it makes it difficult to find someone who actually has goals or own set of interests. That's my pet peeve other than that women aren't really that bad. Guys can be just as worse but that's just my perspective.

Hmm...alleviate stress? try not giving a f***..lol! I'm trying that right now it seems to work. Just learn to be myself and if people don't like it so be it.. :P

[xandra_smiles]

I might be guilty of being bad at decision... I try very hard not to be. I wonder if this is something that other girls struggle with like me or if they do it as a game, hmmm. You have a great attitude though. Thanks for the comment :)

[Cannedheat]

It really isn't an issue when you communicate well but others tend to hide things from friends and that causes the problem. I need to stop blaming others when it's my fault. And I need to stop going through guilt trips when it happens. I don't think life's a one way street so it's pretty arrogant to watch it from one perspective.

just be positive and be yourself. I have my complaints because I wish the women I ran into were much more honest and told me the truth over making excuses. -.-

[LILRDCRVT]

Right now I am so that girl...but I agree with your suggestion on how to alleviate stress...I don't want to be June Cleaver but I don't think women can do/have it all, and we are more high strung than ever because of it.

[Cannedheat]

yeah but it really is about compromise isn't it. nobody's ever going to be perfect sometimes having these flaws are just a part of who we are. Accepting someone for who they are and willing to make compromise/sacrifices make up for those flaws. People make ton of mistakes a lot of people are stubborn and don't listen etc. you just gotta make sure you know who you're making these sacrifices for and if that person is worth it. lol

[Anonymous]

Yes! I am completely burned out with women. Here are my top reasons based both on research and personal experience:
1) Too many double standards- I feel like women my age and younger expect so many ideal images for me to model. Yet, they fail to match the standards they expect from me. In fact, I feel this way about their social expectations in random conversations. They act like social police rather than active listeners. Their instinct to control seems more important than their capacity to reason. Here are some examples:
- wanting a man to pay for dinner and do "traditional" things while she acts like a "modern" woman with entitlements

[Xx_DRE_xX]

Women look for some many things in one man, when one man looks for one thing out of several women catch my drift.

[xandra_smiles]

ummm... no not quite. I am a little confused.

[Xx_DRE_xX]

Of course.

[MrPhox]

Men need only for women to be somewhat healthy and attractive (an average girl) and they are willing to have sex with her, because that is what he is by nature driven to do. She doesn't need to be smart, or rich, or educated, or talented, or confident, or unique, or powerful, or popular. He just needs her to take his penis in her vagina.

Women on the other hand, are like picky employers during a time high unemployment. They want every possible criterion to be checked-off before the go for it, and since the unemployment rate is so high (so to speak) they have MANY candidates to select from. This is why online matchmaking sights are a nightmare. Men get nothing while women get barraged with messages.

[Anonymous]

I just hate modern feminism in the west, white middle-class women screaming privilege, when they don't realize they are the most privileged gender race combo in the world.

[Anonymous]

these days, women are untrustworthy.