Chivalry: Why men should hold onto it not because of norms made by society but because of the genuine affection for the women that they love!

[Octavius]

Chivalry in regards to dating has been talked about a lot recently and the question of what purpose does it serve in the modern world seems to be a major point for many people. Chivalry in dating is something that many men are coming into conflict with because they see it as an outdated way of acting in the current world. Women being seen as equal to men legally and professionally is a way of thinking that is very new to society. Women can now have careers of their own and make enough money to live off of. They have the ability to pay for their own food and they most certainly understand the physics and capabilities of opening a door all on their own. So some guys may ask why they should pay for a girls meal, open doors for them or do any asortment of deeds on behalf of the women in their life. Do it because you love them and you want to do nice things for them.

If you truly care about a person you'll spend your energy and helping them in any way that you can and you do it because their happiness is something that you care about. Chivalry isn't something that should be seen as a loan that they have to pay you back later for the service(usually a lot of guys see sex as being that payment). It's something you do because you're a good person that treats those that you care about as best as you can. Yes there are women that will take advantage of that and just use your kindness and then run off leaving you in the dust. But that's part of dating. You have to put up with some crap before you find a lady that sees you as someone they also want to please and make happy. Don't take your frustration and anger out on the women that actually appreciate chivalry. They don't want to see you as their servant or as a bank. They are the people that will spoil you back. Healthy loving relationships are about focusing on spoiling your lover not about trying to get them to give you crap. Giving should be your priority not getting. Yes you may not get something back and end up with nothing but taking that out on women that would not do that to you is not going to make the situation any better. You may miss out on a wonderful lady that would treat you like a king all because they happened to cross your path when you were still bitter about some other girl that took advantage of you. You'd treat the wonderful girl poorly and she'd be hurt and leave when if you fought through the agony of being used and treated them with chivalry they'd shower you with love in return. Be chivalrous because you want to make them happy not so you get something in return. Let her worry about making you happy you need to focus on making her happy.

Guys don't give up on chivalry. If your end goal is to be in a happy loving relationship with a wonderful women being taken advatage of is something you will have to deal with until you finally find the right lady. It sucks but if you stick it out and do find her in the end it will be well more than worth it.

[Darkfairie17]

I just love this so much! This is exactly how I feel! I've always done nice things for guys I have dated. I love it when a guy treats me well, and I love spoiling my bf's. Unfortunately I've been the receiver of a lot of bad things because of my kindness. Many of my ex's took advantage of me and treated me like crap in return.

I would love it if more men would have this perspective on dating. The best way to combat getting taken advantage of is to get out as soon as they start being rude and ungrateful. Obviously then they are not seeing it as a virtue and you need to find someone who will appreciate your efforts.

It's hard, frustrating and even maddening at times. But it's definitely worth if if you find a girl who is going to spoil you in return.

I know this is the reason I have been reluctant in this relationship to spoil my boyfriend because I don't want to be taken advantage of. Yes women also get taken advantage of!

I've paid for all the groceries when I was living with my ex. He kept playing the unemployed card, but he had lots of money saved up and even bought himself a new car while unemployed. But would yell and scream at me if I did not pay for all the groceries or asked him to help me with groceries. There were even times when he would refuse to help bring them up and I had to drag them up on my own (we lived in an apartment). It was literally a nightmare. Not to mention his temper tantrums if I refuse to cook dinner, with no help from him after I worked :(

[Mesonfielde]

Not a fan of chivalry, but sometimes I do pay for the food of others in an invitation of kinds. Not because they are female, but because I have more money at my disposal. Common courtesy, is it not? I wonder when women will start seeing it that way. Males aren't the only one who should be focused on giving.

[Botchie]

While I agree that chivalry shouldn't be seen as a loan, I completely disagree with the rest of the post. Your intent that men should be chivalrous out of the goodness in our hearts and desire to "win over the girl" is right, it should be both ways. There should be no motivation for paying for a dinner other than the fact that you want to. I started losing a lot of money fast paying for many different dates. I also started losing my sense of worth as a dateable man after no girl would go on a second date with me despite them saying they had a great time and were looking forward to a next time. I think we should be chivalrous after the girl has proven that she isn't going to use you. I think what you described is the fastest way to get into that imaginary club known as the friendzone. I agree with @Reallykind06 100%. Men should treat women as we would treat another man. No special treatment or any of that. Once you and the girl decide you want to pursue a relationship, then you can start doing more and more of the nice treatment. But NEVER right off the start. That's the fastest way to end up broke and hurt.

To summarize:

1. Treat women like any other human being
2. Wait until you know you won't be used to start doing nice things for her (The special treatment type things, not holding doors and other common courtesies)
3. Treat yourself with respect and have a personality.
4. Have fun! No one likes a stick for a personality.

[Reallykind06]

Disagree, you seem to be standing up for Feminists and Extremists and defending their view here. We live in the 21st Century, we don't need our Men to be acting like fairytale White Knights and treat Women like Mother Teresa just because THEY want to feel good and dominant. You said it yourself, many Women use Men because they want money and being treated as superior, but yet you still think that Men should give them what they want, well yeah, everyone will have to go through hard times, but why should the WOMAN not go through equal hard times?

No offense but your post seems to me like some kind of trap that centers around brainwashing Men into believing they should let Women use them for cash, while in the "love" is here to be used as disguise for their true intentions. That's how i feel.

I think we should let Men behave how they want and let Women deal with them on their own instead of telling them what to do.

[Octavius]

It's not about women being delicate or not being capable of doing those things on their own. It's just about the desire to be kind and do generous things for the people you care about.
" but why should the WOMAN not go through equal hard times? "
I planned on doing a take in the future about the female version of how they should treat men courteously as well despite that there are a lot of men who would take advantage of it. It isn't about doing nice things for people taking advantage of you it's about not letting those bad people turn you into a bitter person and then miss your chance to be affectionate to someone who would truly appreciate it. Neither person should tell the other to act this way. It's about pleasing the other person and trusting them to take care of your desires. A lady shouldn't demand that a guy act this way and the guy shouldn't do it simply because he feels pressured to do it. It's about doing it for the natural desire to make the people you care about happy.

[Octavius]

There's nothing wrong either if you don't enjoy guys doing those kind of things for you. It isn't about the specific act itself it's just about trying to make the person happy. You can just let him know what things you do enjoy.

[Reallykind06]

@Take Owner Well, i don't think that ANY MEN would be willing to do this for Women naturally due to the change in the way the Society functions and the fact that there are WAY TOO MANY evil Women who take control of Men then there are Men who take control of Women. The only way you would make this happen is if you would brainwash them by some Feminists or extremists or some Ancient knights who have been taught from an early age to be Peasants to Women. There are already Men who feel this way, so i don't think you should be worrying that Women don't have enough control over Men.

[Octavius]

Yes there are a lot of bad women out there but I don't think that invalidates the good ones out there. Wouldn't you enjoy seeing a guy that you liked made the effort to make you happy? I think people are just happier overall when they are focused more on giving than taking. Be the decent person in an indecent world.

[Reallykind06]

Sure, but not by acting like a White Knight. I have seen tons of good Men who are in happy relationships without behaving this way.

[Octavius]

Again it's not about the specific act itself. They can do something else to make their lover happy than the things I said. It's just about trying to be good to someone else is all.

[Reallykind06]

It would be easier for couples to become compatible if Women would be less Feminist. Women always expect everything from Men, but give very little in return. Is going to job and earning money the same as cleaning a House? hardly. The truth is that Men can do everything that Women can, but Women can't do everything that Men can, that's why there are a lot of bitter Feminists who are trying to take control of them.

[Octavius]

That's true there are women like that but I don't think men should take their anger at those women out on the women that are good and would never take advantage of a guy. Girls have this problem to. They deal with crap guys and some do take it out on all guys but there are women that tough it out and continue being generous to potential dating prospects in the hope they run into a good man.

[Reallykind06]

What crap do Women deal with Men? i am interested in seeing this.

[Octavius]

There are men who pretend to be nice and polite to women but then disappear after having sex with them. There are guys that are bossy and push their girlfriends around. These are all issues that aren't really gender specific but people on both sides have committed.

[Reallykind06]

Exactly, as i thought, you are giving me basic things that apply to both Genders, I have asked you for things that ONLY WOMEN have to deal with regards to Men, and as i thought you are not able to give me any because there are not any. That kind of proves i am right. Thanks for that.

[Octavius]

To be fair you didn't say only women when you asked. If you want some things that really only apply to women there's makeup which a lot of guys criticize women for if they don't have it on or if they have too much of it on. What's with your loathing of women as a whole? You're a woman and I can't imagine you despise yourself to this extent.

[Reallykind06]

I never said i want to loath Women as a whole and neither that i hate myself, that is just a product of your own mind. Make-up? really? is that all you can come up with? what I am doing here is proving you are wrong and identifying the truth.

[Octavius]

I'm not sure really what else you're looking for. This isn't about being even it's just about trying to show affection for the people you care about. Maybe some women don't have too many struggles in life but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to be loved.

[Reallykind06]

Sure, but most Women should also stop being whiny little girls and start acting upon their own actions.

[BruceJender]

Actual radical feminists think chivalry is sexist towards women.

[coldpieceofpizza]

I accidentally up-voted this when I wanted to click on just more... oops. Anyway I wanted to downvote, because I think the mytake is not about telling men to spoil women. It's about telling men to spoil their partner, because you want to make them happy. If you like someone you should treat them well, that doesn't have to be with money, but can also be with compliments and nice gestures. If I had a boyfriend I would like to spoil him and he doesn't have to in return, but it would make me happier.

[GirlsLie]

I think you have a point when it comes to money, men do need to be careful when it comes to paying for things, women do and will take advantage of them. As far as just being nice to someone, that shouldn't be a gender battle, if you're dating or in a relationship, why wouldn't you want to be nice and respectful to your partner. It's not a weakness to let someone be nice to you, as long as you're doing the same.

[ihatethiswebsite]

I agree with your answer @Reallykind06

[heartattack25]

He is promoting love and caring. Being 'reha' (Arabic for a person who doesn't count favors, sees the best in everyone, is loyal and forgiving and generous). Being reha makes you happy before everyone else. You shouldn't be materialistic when you are looking for love. Money comes, money goes. Courtesy costs nothing. smh. Don't be a modern feminist. Equality is all well and good but you don't need to take it to extremes. He is suggesting that men and women treat each other with kindness. Selfishness just breeds more selfishness.

[SexyTexas]

Great Take! Sadly, it went right over the majority of commenter's heads lol!

All the negativity can be solved with one line from your Take:

"Do it because you love them and you want to do nice things for them."

You can lead a horse to the water, but you cannot make it drink :)

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Keep doling out the positivity :)

[GirlsLie]

Nice take :)

I think people should just be nicer to each other in general and especially while dating or in a relationship, wouldn't you want to be nice to someone you like.

I'm not sure why people are always treating chivalry like a gender competition, i'm a woman but i'm nice to people I date and even strangers, I hold doors open for others, I help carry things, it's not that difficult to just not be a jerk to other people.

And I really can't stand the people who think that you owe them your soul because they opened a door for you, it's nice and all but genuinely nice people don't get so offended over shit like that because they're actually being nice for the right reasons.

[GirlsLie]

The only thing I don't agree with is, paying for meals. It's ok to me if you rotate or just half, I would never let anyone pay for me, for anything.

[Octavius]

It's fine that you like to pay for your own stuff. For me it's just usually I am the one that asked them out on a date and so I'm paying for myself and for them. I appreciate that they took time out of their day to spend time alone with me so I just am trying to show gratitude. It's payment for the time we've already spent not paying for sex. Although I don't usually even like to do dinner dates on a first date so for me that's usually a problem that doesn't even arise. Unfortunately a lot of guys see paying as a loan that you have to pay them back for later in the night. I just don't think that mindset can ever really lead to a loving and lasting healthy relationship. If a girl doesn't want me to pay that's fine too I'll just try to do other things to make them happy. It's not about the deed itself it's just trying to put a smile on their face.

[GirlsLie]

That's a really good idea honestly and a lot of people do that (whoever asks, pays) and people should do what they want. But personally I don't trust or take anything from anyone until I get into a relationship with them because in that case I also give as well. It's difficult to trust someones intentions and some guys do think they're entitled to more because they paid or went out of their way for you and that's just not a situation that i'm willing to put myself in. Guys like that need to just not pay in the first place because they're not doing it because they're kind, they're doing it because they want something.

[tenchu11]

You should do it just to be nice and not expect anything. But it puts a smile on my face I took a girl out on a date that was going through school she took money out and I told her "no I invited you, you shouldn't have to pay" she had a big smile I didn't try to sneak into her panties. Also a couple of elderly ladies exiting a store I held the door for them an one touched my arm smiling "wish we could keep you around all day." It made me smile an blush you shouldn't do it to get favors you should do it out of virtue and self respect to yourself and society. Plus it's just the right thing to do

[aglaia]

"Let her worry about making you happy you need to focus on making her happy."
Could not agree more. Finding someone that puts the same energy in making you happy like you do is worth waiting for. But despite of that I can understand guys and girls who are not yet ready for that and just want quick "success" with that hot bitch or asshole. But there will be a time when everyone should realize that there must be "something better" out there.

[heartattack25]

Marry me! :D This is exactly how I feel. I am a very giving person. Guys take advantage of that. They treat you like a fool because you are good. I am trying very hard not to become bitter and cynical. Please don't ever change. It is nice to know there are guys like you out there. It makes my heart glad. :) Thanks for this take.

[Red7336]

NO MINE !! he is not marrying you !

[genuinlysensitive]

I wish there were more women like you. Especially seems to be a shortage here in the US.

[Onlyinit4fun]

I think women should be chivalrous to. I don't mind chivalry as long as it's not one sided. And a man should be okay with a woman opening the door for him, paying for dates, give presents, etc. Chivalry should be a two-way street and not like it has been throughout history.

[Espolare99]

No im sorry but my experience of so called white knights are more that they are creepy dogs always sniffing around pretending to be your friendy hoping because they gave you a ride home or helped you out a few that automatically that means you must pay them back with sexual favours. They think if they come charging in on their white horse wether the situation calls for it or not you will drop your panties to the floor and let them have their way. Screw that girls want a real man not some spinless, twisted little boy. Im am not a damsel in distress always in need of saving.

[Neuro442]

Clearly you're in no trouble, no one would show you chivalry anyway, no point complaining about something that you'd never get.

[Espolare99]

@Neuro442 sorry if I bruised your ego.

[pnl86]

I don't think you bruised anyone's ego with your 16-year-old comments. The only thing you did is show everyone you can't read: "Chivalry isn't something that should be seen as a loan that they have to pay you back later for the service (usually a lot of guys see sex as being that payment)."

[VampireEmpress]

@pnl86 so you're saying that is why most guys do it?

[GirlsLie]

You also have to use common sense when it comes to "taking" from people, some guys really do want things in return, which is why some insist on doing things for you in the first place. Your best bet is to not take anything from anyone or to at least offer something in return, you really can't trust people until you know them.

There's nothing wrong with letting people be nice to you but you have to be nice also lol

[Espolare99]

Good advice @GirlsLie thanks.

[GirlsLie]

I've always paid for my half of the date and drove myself and most guys were still very nice to me but a few were insulted that I insisted on those things and acted like jerks to me and those were normally always the ones who tried to touch me or kiss me etc. it made me think, damn if they were that way even when I paid for myself, how bad would they have been if I had let them pay for me lol

[Someguy17]

@GirlsLie So you don't like being touched or kissed by guys?

[Espolare99]

I dont like to br bought like a prositute

[Neuro442]

Your apology is accepted, but you didn't bruise my ego, I bruised yours.

[GirlsLie]

@Someguy17 what does paying for myself have to do with being touched or kissed by a guy? And no I don't until I know him and actually like him, that shits not happening on the first few dates or even close to that.

[Esplorare]

Are you some weird, obsessive stalker who is trolling on my GAG account? I noticed that your profile is only one week old and it appears you attempted to take my name?

[heavensgift2girls]

"Giving should be your priority not getting" I disagree. It has to flow both directions. It is degrading to be told you have to give and be okay with getting nothing in return just because of your gender.

The problem guys have with chivalry is that it only flows in one direction. Can you imagine how most women would feel if they were told to do special things for guys just because they are women, and be okay with the guy not being chivalrous back? Women would find that very sexist and degrading, and rightfully so.

Either we need gender roles in dating for both genders, or we have to eliminate them completely. We can't expect one gender to follow a gender role while teaching them it is sexist for them to expect the same out of the other gender. If women were acting chivalrous to guys then I don't think guys would have a problem with being chivalrous themselves. What modern chivalry teaches is that men are suppose to be a woman's servant.

[PhoenixRisingDK]

Being a gentleman never really went out of style.
Problem is, that if you only put your best qualities forward to land a chick, you're really just putting on an act.
And when your gentleman conduct disappears shortly after landing the prize, all you're left with is an image of being a fake ass regular douche.
You have to be consistent regardless of gender or individual, but kick it up a notch when courting.

[Roostah]

Problem is if you put your gentleman act on too long, you end up as a SUPREME GENTLEMAN.

TIP YOUR FEDORA NOW!

[PhoenixRisingDK]

An act is just an act.
A gentleman is simply a gentleman.
It's in the way you dress, the way you conduct and present yourself, the way you address and treat others.
It's in knowing class from anything but, and still have the courtesy and (self) respect not to mention it or try to tap it. And most of all, it must come natural.
It's never too late to learn good manners, so be your best all day, every day.
It's a lot harder than it sounds if not taught early.

[bubble_tea]

I get what you're trying to say, but I think the only men who complain about having to be chivalrous to get a girl are the ones who aren't chivalrous by nature. So for them it's hard work to fake it and even harder when they find out the women saw through the act and don't want them after all.
Similarly, I think the only women who complain about having to wear makeup and dresses to catch the attention of men are the women who dislike wearing makeup and dresses.

[genuinlysensitive]

No, thats not true, many of us complaining are the ones who get laughed at, used, and cheated on by women who take advantage of us.

[bubble_tea]

Ah you again..

[NatashaAnnJames]

I love it, I don't care what other people think.
Please guys don't let it die

I am always willing to pay my share, but if the guy wishes to pay it's a really nice touch, makes me feel special, that he is willing to spend his hard earned money on me.
It is small things like having a door opened for me with a nice smile, that puts a broad smile on my face all day long. My opinion of a man that does such a thing goes through the roof.

[KenM9215]

I hate to ask this but when you say guys I get the feeling you are calling out all the gents out there... am I right in that or are you saying guys as a more general term?

[NatashaAnnJames]

@KenM9215 I mean all men, its a plea to all men not to let chivalry die. I hope that helps

[KenM9215]

but how is that fair to place that all on the backs of men? women can be chivalrous too. also Mothers are one of the first authority figures in childs life, its their job to help instill chivalry in children (as well as fathers but towards the early childhood years mothers are much more involved usually). why is this all on men? and if you'd have men keep chivalry alive, okay fine, what do the women have to do?

[NatashaAnnJames]

@KenM9215
This is not something a man has to do or something that has to be taught to a child.

It’s something that I and many women like.

This not something a man does, to get something in return, it is done to make the woman feel good, feel special.

You only do it if you want to do it and in the knowledge that you might not get anything back in return.

The woman does not do anything except say thank you.

I personally hold it in high regard, to me it's a mark of a man (not a male, a man, a gentleman)

[NatashaAnnJames]

@KenM9215
This is taught by fathers, not mothers, its a like a male code of conduct on how to treat females

[genuinlysensitive]

You don't want it to die? Speak up when women bash chivalrous men. When they take advantage of us and cheat on us and rip our hearts out, console us, maybe try and fix us up with a woman who isn't like that.

[KenM9215]

its taught by BOTH. and during childhood mothers tend to have more of an active part in a childs life than fathers do. Mothers are just as capable if not more so of teaching a boy how to be chivalrous as his father is. ALL men should not carry the blame for those who are not chivalrous. I don't want to be blamed for some joe schmo who isn't chivalrous, its not my fault, nor is it any other mans fault except for maybe his father if we are just including men. seems to easy of a cop out to point the finger at JUST the men when mothers have just as much of a hand if not more so in raising children. at least it seems to be socially accepted that way.

[NatashaAnnJames]

@KenM9215
I'm sorry, we will have to agree to disagree on this topic, I think you are starting to rant a little.

[Roostah]

Guys don't get anything out of being chivalrous and get friend zoned by women 9/10 because of it. As Dave Chapelle would say

https://youtu.be/ymNdfdQvdVc

Chivalry is dead, and women killed it. Gentlemen get friendzoned. Players and thugs get sex and relationships.

[PhoenixRisingDK]

Gentlemen get classy women.
Players and thugs get the opposite, STD's and 20 years of paying child support.
You attract what you project ;-)

[Roostah]

You'd think that but I've seen plenty of players get classy women, to sleep with them. Meanwhile the best the gentleman gets is a kiss good night on the first date.

[PhoenixRisingDK]

No, you've seen players get beautiful women.
Beauty =/= class
Hooking up with a random thug immediately voids any trace of class she may have had, thus making your statement a paradox in itself.
She may look classy, but she's obviously not, hooking up with a random douche.
It's a matter of quality over quantity.

You may have more game, but I don't find my kicks in rolling around in the trash.
But whatever raises your flagpole...

[Roostah]

Look dude believe what you want to believe. If you think because a woman hooks up with an attractive player devoid her of any class and how easy it is for these guys to manipulate girls into thinking they are certain way be my guess. Your statement says you got a lot more issues with women as a whole though.

[heavensgift2girls]

I see lots of classy women with thugs, and trashy women with gentlemen. The thugs often know how to make the classy women feel sexy and desirable, and the gentlemen know how to make the trashy women feel like a lady.

[PhoenixRisingDK]

You have your standards, I have mine.

[NatashaAnnJames]

@PhoenixRisingDK What a lovely point, and so very true :)

[NydusinExpo]

I won't change my principles because some guy said so. If the woman in question doesn't apreciate me then I have no business being with her

[genuinlysensitive]

I for one am tired of being taken advantage of. Women take advantage of men like us, destroy our psyches, then wonder why there are no nice guys left. Because of what women do to us!

The mytake should be if you want someone to treat you right, make sure you treat them right.

[skykidx1]

100$ true women dont even at least have the respect to be honest with respectful man like Us.

[Octavius]

Have the strength to persevere until you find a lady who doesn't take advantage of kind acts people do for her. If you just give up on being nice then you can't really expect to ever have a woman be devoted to you. You might find a nice lady but she won't stick around if you are selfish around her. There are nice women that are having to endure a bunch of ahole men looking for a nice guy too.

[SilenRose]

I love chivalry. Have you seen this clips of Tome Hiddleston being a gentleman to a reporter on the red carpet? *swoon*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKINtBNhIig

True gentleman make my heart skip a beat. Lol. I'm not surprised by some of the girls and guys who disagree with you. Not everyone wants a gentleman or a lady.

[NatashaAnnJames]

*swoon to*

[ihatethiswebsite]

I think most guys don't like it because most women aren't chivalrous back. Or the women isn't chivalrous back unless the guy does everything first, which makes her move not even truly chivalrous.

I think people should behave however they want to get their relationships. If some people want to be chivalrous then good, if some people don't want to be chivalrous that's great to. I would be on the not chivalrous side since I find doing all the 'gentlemanly' stuff as basically treating the woman as a kid who isn't capable of doing stuff. I want a partner not somebody that I have to constantly do stuff for.

[genuinlysensitive]

Well put relationships are two way streets, which many people are forgetting these days.

[JohnBelluci]

You should add something crucial...

Chivalry ONLY FOR WOMEN WHO DO NOT EXPECT IT, BUT DESERVE IT.

Don't help self entitled bitches to have their cake and eat it too.

That would be like donating your money to Donald Trump instead of a homeless peron...

[genuinlysensitive]

Well put, so many women say they want this type of man, but do nothing in return but lie, cheat, and insult him.

[AleDeEurope]

I'm a chivalrous guy, I've always been, but my chivalry ends when the girl doesn't act like a lady.
Chivalry is dying because there are almost no ladies left. If girls acted more like ladies, men would act more like gentlemen, why? Because we, men, have to impress and court the girl, if being chivalrous doesn't get you the girl, but being an ass does, well, obviously you'll stop being a gentleman and start being an ass.

[genuinlysensitive]

"Chivalry is dying because there are almost no ladies left. If girls acted more like ladies, men would act more like gentlemen..."

Couldn't agree more! That should be a mytake.

[AleDeEurope]

@genuinlysensitive Yeah it could, I'm too lazy for that though xD Maybe you should write it, but you'll get a lot of negativity from women, look, I already have one downvote xD

[genuinlysensitive]

You get negativity from women for anything other than "Women are inherently superior in every way to men." And other feminist BS. Tell the truth expect the downvotes! If I do something like this may I quote you?

[AleDeEurope]

@genuinlysensitive Well, I don't like generalizing, I love women, some of the best people I've ever met were women, but in this situation, I do think most of the fault comes from them.
You can quote me, as long as you don't quote me about something I never said.

[skykidx1]

@genuinlysensitive Chivalry is dying because there are almost no ladies left. If girls acted more like ladies, men would act more like gentlemen..."

Couldn't agree more! That should be a mytake. 100% true this is 100% how i am only i have a had time saying how i feel and feels in bs. My ex wanted me too speak about my feeling and the 1 time i did you wanna know what she said to me? Stop acting like a little pussy which is why am back too being a man that doe. Not show his feelings.

[MysteriousFlower]

Yes they should open doors and pay because they want to. I can also do those things as well, but it shows that he cares.