It isn't worth being a good guy anymore.

[Anonymous]

It just isn't worth being a good guy anymore. Listening to girls and their problems and being there when they fall, and just trying to get to know them. I'm not going to be that guy anymore.

[Reeses-pieces777]

well, you just have to see the warning signs that you're just a friend to her. obviously some guys are just friends in a girl's mind . sometimes you just have to not always be there if you're looking for more-i know it sound sbad but what I mean is flirt!

if you want to be with a girl , to be her bf, then flirt, compliment her, treat her like that so she isn't like oh you're a friend. I have guy friends at college and they don't like hit on me and it makes determine them as just guy friends. yep.

or just focus one girl and she'll stick to you. give but always consider that there are limits to being nice. the nice guy is ok, but I mean, if you're after her to be your girl, you have to be a little more on the flirtatious side or give her that hint.

[Cool-Relax]

Alright, one more douche in the world, yes! I, as a female, am absolutely thrilled to hear that there's one less decent guy out there. Who wants a guy who actually cares? That's so overrated.

...sarcasm, by the way.

In my experience, the problem for guys who complain that they're too nice is generally that they're not assertive enough. Girls want a guy who listens and shows compassion, a guy who will be there when they fall. But being a shoulder to cry on can be mistaken for friendship if you don't show her that you're interested in more.

[circlebill]

There just doesn't seem to be much reinforcement or appreciation from most women towards men who actually care. And that whole "just a friend" relationship between a man and a woman is plain unnatural! No man actually SEEKS that kind of relationship with a woman! Granted, such relationships must be tolerated when one of them has a priority to a significant other. Otherwise, such a relationship is unhealthy at best! Don't women understand that all normal men want love and sex?

[Cool-Relax]

Women might understand that men want love and sex, but women also *do* seek out friendships with no sexual or amorous intentions, so I think most of us expect men to do the same. There are plenty of times when women are interested in a male friend but don't act on it because they assume that he just wants to be friends. It's not a lack of appreciation for caring men, it's really just different ways of thinking. That's why it's so important to communicate feelings rather than sit back and wonder how the other person feels.

[Shlei3]

Then don't be a nice guy but be aware that you run the risk of missing out on some great girls because you let your jilted past get in your way. The trick is to be aware of the people who do deserve your help and understasnding and who doesn't. It takes time but not everyone deserves your gratuity.

[DragonLord]

may I ask how can you tell if she is pretending other words how do we know if she really deserve our help and understanding I ask because some girls and some women pretend and act like they deserve you and your understanding when they don't

[circlebill]

To do what is good and right cannot entirely be its own reward. At some point, good and right must be acknowledged and rewarded! Every human organization must have a means of acknowledging and rewarding good people!

In the dating world however, good and right are often unrewarded! Guys who try to do what is good and right are often shunned and disrespected! The very idea that many girls actually prefer and choose some kind of uncaring jerk flys in the face of being a good guy! If many girls keep acknowledging and rewarding only bad boy-jerk behavior, then it really isn't worth being a good guy anymore.

[ricklee3]

I happen to be the same way I listen to girls problems all the time even though at times (which is all the time) it is very boring and it is worth being the good guy don't stop being one if you like a girl act on it being a nice guy never gets in the way of girlfriends unless your girlfriend gets jealous then that's just plain ugly but any ways don't stop and act on your feelings haha that sounded kinda lame

[Whoknows87]

yeah bro it most certainly is. I fall into the friends zone too much, but you gotta learn the way to not get trapped there. I listen and care too much...girls open up to me and its kinda cool/freaky. At the same time you need to continue to be yourself cause you need to be the 1st impression of yourself and not the 2nd impression of someone else.

You'll regret being someone your not...and believe me people who have known you for a while before you "Changed" will notice right away.

Being a hard ass is quite comical, you don't wanna be that. Those guys are the laughing stock. Everytime I see one I bust out laughing. Girls like 'em cause they seem really exciting till they realize their personality is as good as sh*t.

Be the good guy, bro. It will take you a lot further in life.

[rocksongwriter]

"Girls like 'em cause they seem really exciting till they realize their personality is as good as sh*t."

It's better to have loved & lost than to have never loved at all.

[Whoknows87]

Lol......and when their ego's go down the tubes....they are nothing

[sparklebuds]

Omg why?! You'll find that in the long run you'll get better girls. My bf's a "nice guy" (Kinda a perv at times but that's beside point) and we've been dating for over 7 months. Most respectable girls like a nice guy, someone we can bitch to about our problems and they'll actually listen and respond with more then just a, "Uh huh." I think you're making a bad choice, stay a good guy, because in the long run you'll be happy and all those jerk offs won't.

[DragonLord]

OK ma'am allow me to ask you this how many nice guys have you dated and put him in the friend zone you say you too nice then date a jerk so how many nice guys did you ever give a chance to get to know him for who he is and see if you like him or not

[misssophia5]

that's so sad to hear! are you upset because you feel like you help people without reciprocation? if you are upset enough to stop being nice, something must have happened! please don't give up being nice. I promise it will pay off in the end! cheer up!

[DragonLord]

OK may I ask how many nice guys did you date and dumped for a jerk and how many nice guys did you give a chance to to get to know him for who he is and see if you like him or not

[Anonymous]

Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Everything will be better now. A big misconception is that women deserve your respect. This is not true. They have to earn your respect. Don't you worry man, you are on a good start. I cannot lead you down the path but you are in the right direction.

[Anonymous]

I'm in his exact position. Not saying I'll stop being a nice guy. But I'm tired of it. Being treated like crap... Being seen as "the girls' friend"... I don't want to be a friend, I want to be a boyfriend. I want to love, be loved. I want to get married, have children.

But girls... They just don't care.

Girls my age just want to have fun, just want it casual... And if they want to have a serious relationship... It's just to own the guy, not because they really want it... Because once he gets tired of being that possession they suddenly feel like it's time to show how much they love you... I know must girls act this egocentric way because they have been hurt... But that doesn't mean we should be treated the same way. We're not possessions. We have feelings as well, even though most jerks feel like it's lame or even gay to show them.

[southernbelle88]

I love nice guys. I can't stand guys who disrespects girls and have large egos.

[DragonLord]

may I ask you as well how many nice guys did you ever give a chance to to get to know him and how many nice guys did you talk to to see if you like him or not

[FrozenDonkeyWheel]

Okay. That's kind of dumb, but whatever.

Do you have a question, or something, or why did you bother posting this?

[luvme56]

Being some else is shitty and being yourself is worth it!

[Anonymous]

please dont. I think guys who listen and help are the good guys. no girl doesn't want to be saved by there prince charming

[circlebill]

I think it's beautiful that you feel that way! But most women just don't seem to value good guys very much! If there were more women like you, more men would try to be good guys!

[Anonymous]

good for you man no sarcasm

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry is this an announcement or a question?