To early to use protein powder shakes?

[jjodllwedo]

long story short, im overweight and i want to lose weight. I've been working out for 2-3 weeks now and recently started to eat some fat burning pills aside that. and today i bought some protein shake powder but i feel like i might be starting to use it to early? am i right?

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offensive comments will not be responded too as i already feel like im being targeted enough be family and close friends for trying to change my life style. i take fat burning pills as help by the side cause i want to get some extra help to burn fat. enough said. my question was about the protein powder and not some fucking pills. enough.

[Ghosty]

"i want to lose weight" - Respect! Go for it!

"fat burning pills" - sorry to come off offensive, but BULLSHIT. There are no shortcuts. But it's worth it.

"protein shake powder" - For a beginner or someone who does more cardio than lifting (which should be how you work out in order to drop the overweight until you're around average body fat percentage), more than enough protein is taken in by regular food. Then you can try another setup.
Protein is needed for >building muscles<, which isn't your primary target (although more muscles burn more fat even when resting, or after workout (afterburn), but that effect is not worth mentioning yet!) So yes, protein powder/shakes are useless for you, even might add unnecessary calories. If you don't feel like your diet has enough protein (it has), you can eat a portion of low fat quark a day, that together with a normal diet is more than sufficient.

I visit the gym 3x a week, and don't take any supplements. A good diet and low fat quark :)

Keep a healthy diet (enough help can be found on google) and don't stop working. You'll get there.
How do you work out?

[milightman]

No it's actually fine to start. The whole point of a protein shake depending on what you bought, is to put back certain nutrients in your body. With it being low/no sugar, high protein, and good calorie amount, it actually helps you lose weight.

My biggest advice to you to help lose weight, cut out: bread, tortillas, pasta (carb based foods), foods that are processed, anything with ADDED sugar, and you'll lose weight pretty fast. The first week is tough, but when you get halfway through the 2nd week, you'll lose all cravings for it, and your weight will drop substantially, and energy will climb. Make sure to eat 6 times a day to increase metabolism as well. If you want to know what you could eat just get back to me :)

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

Processed foods have nothing to do with weight loss/gain.. greater meal frequency doesn't help either. Calorie equation is all that matters in weight loss. Consumption vs expenditure. Meal frequency is a long known myth to people whose knowledge comes from researching and not word of mouth.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494 Note the date-- plenty of more publications on it though.

[NovemberJoseph]

He's right ^^

[milightman]

When I say processed @NotJustAnotherGuy, I actually meant to say foods that are saturated with bad ingredients, or fats, sugars, additives coming from the wrong places, which are most microwavable/fast foods. Calories do play an important part of course, if you're getting them from the right place, so I agree with you on that. That's a nice find on the meal frequency too by the way.

[jjodllwedo]

oh thanks for the great advices! :) greatly appritciated! :)

[creativeusername101]

the processed food part is actually correct. fats, from seeds and nuts actually speed the burning of fat in the body. and only refined sugar and starchy carbs, not sugar from fruit. which again, helps give energy, fill you up faster and drop both fat and water weight. if you are over weight a lot of what you think is fat is actually retained water. carbs are good and healthy. just choose the right carbs.

[jjodllwedo]

wtf lol.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

@creativeusername101 No. Nothing speeds the burning of fat. The calorie equation is extremely well proven. Whereas solid studies regarding calories some how equaling less because of the fats in them, are nonexistent as far as I can tell. There is however, plenty of proof that the proportion of fats, carbs and proteins is insignificant compared to the total net calories.

jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx

I should clarify one aspect of the study before it blows your mind, a high protein diet is likely to introduce more creatine which means more water retention in the muscles-- which isn't bad, but explains the weight difference, even though all groups gained a similar amount of fat.

In the end, a calorie surplus always results in gained fat. A calorie deficit always results in a reduction of fat. There are no magic calories that don't count, or make others not count.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

What makes this study more accurate than any you'll find is they first found a stable amount of calories to keep the person at the same weight, then adjusted accordingly. Rather than giving everyone the same calorie restriction (e. g. 1800kcal), since this would mean fatter or more active people or vice versa would skew the data. Stabalizing their calorie count eliminates this to at least some degree-- which is quintessential in low sample size experiments as these often are.

[creativeusername101]

@NotJustAnotherGuy you go off the data you read in some article. I'll go off of real life, right in front of me data.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

@creativeusername101 "real life, right in front of me data" you ate some nuts and could immediately tell they made fat burning more efficient? That's quite remarkable. To be able to have that level of physical feeling, that you can feel what your internal organs are doing at a microscopic level. That's astounding!

Yeah, I guess your totally unbiased opinion is much more credible than scientific research published by the Pennington Biomedical Research Center.

[creativeusername101]

@NotJustAnotherGuy clearly you are just another (typical) guy, can't handle being wrong. I don't base it just on myself. but yes, suddenly having a flat stomach, without adding any exercise and without cutting calories. in fact, adding more calories, having more energy, having doctor point out weight lost, seeing others, not just myself do the same, etc is enough.. lots of studies are published everyday, only to be disproved later.

number of calories doesn't matter much. where you get them and the percentage does.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

@creativeusername101 Haha, guys specifically can't handle being wrong... okay let's keep your relationship struggles out of the debate, please.

So what is your reasoning for there being no provable instances of this happening? Is it because only you've discovered it so far? How convenient. It just blows my mind how you think that is a more credible opinion than one backed by real, tangible data with hard sources.

Give me provable facts. Or don't bother. I'm a rational, logic-oriented human being. Your "experience" is not something I can trust.. It's a belief, and it's subject to things I don't trust like-- your complete and utter incompetence and inability to create logically constructed thoughts-- this isn't a conversation on religion, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect you to give me evidence and find it quite preposterous you just expect me to believe you solely because you said it.

[Anonymous]

First of all drop the pills...
They'll help you in no way.. Exercise, exercise, exercise...
Fat burning bills are not only bad for your health with crazy side effects but will also slow down your progress..

Protein shakes are good, but you need a good bit of training done first before you start, take the shake when you see a big change in your weight loss, it mainly helps with building your body, not shedding weight..

Walk, run, eat healthy, exercise, proper sleep pattern, green tea, water is what you need.

Keep away from the pills and only start your protein when you feel you've droped a good bit of weight

Good luck hun 😊 xxx

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

Many protein shakes help weight loss.. They mitigate hunger while providing a low calorie shake filled with proteins that help muscles recover and get back to working and burning more fat. Protein does not make you gain weight any more than eating to survive does. Unless she's going a 0 calorie diet, protein shakes are going to help her shed more fat.

[Ghosty]

@NotJustAnotherGuy

Don't think that's of mentionable effect when she does more cardio than lifting.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

@Ghosty Wait... you don't think protein helps with cardio? Protein isn't simply a lifting supplement... it's a necessary macro nutrient to daily body functions such as.. I don't know.. living! It is by far the most necessary nutrient to a healthy human body-- far surpassing carbs and fats, and most certainly any micro nutrient. High protein diets have proven time and time again to be the best for staving off hunger (which is a goal for weight loss), as well as essential for muscle recovery (regardless of the type of exercise done).

You're not gonna burn more calories if you neglect to consume any protein.. quite the opposite. You're going to become extremely sore, lethargic and weak-- which defeats the mind and destroys long term goals and routines.

[Ghosty]

@NotJustAnotherGuy I was talking about protein supplements. Imho you should get enough protein with a balanced diet. But you're right about the "staving off hunger" diet part.

[creativeusername101]

get rid of the pills and eat more seeds and nuts. they keep your energy up and make you burn more fat faster. also, replace starchy carbs with sugary carbs from fruit. you'll drop all your water weight in a week. drink more water.

[sXBeast]

I would only recommend protein powder if you are on a daily, Strenuous, exercise routine. If not, all of those protein fibers will collect on your body, and if you don't exercise them, they WILL convert into fat.
DO NOT USE PROTEIN SUPPLEMENTS, unless you're willing to exercise your body Everyday!

I run cross-country, and in my first 4 months I lost 20 Pounds. No Joke. I would recommend lots of Swimming, and if you can work your way up to it, try to start running or jogging a mile every day. Plus, Watch Portion sizes.

[jjodllwedo]

Okay! Thanks for The tips about swimming :)

[kheserthorpe]

I'm highly doubtful you need protein powder.

I'm also wondering what fat burners you're taking, and why. I'm not opposed to -all- of them, just most, and there are fairly specific scenarios where -any- of them do anything useful.