I try believing in somthing like, god or reincarnation but what's the point if you forget everything after death.
What helps you believed something good happens after death?
You won't beleive me but 1 afternoon when an auntie of mine died i was sleeping and i had what i thought at first was a "dream" of all of the family members in front of the gates of heaven wearing white robes with their arms wide open and smiling like they were welcoming me or welcoming someone, i felt what it feels like up there and it's wonderful, everything just made sense, there was no pain, anger, frustration, tension etc... all of it was just gone... the gates were gold and the floors were mahogany and ether side of the gates were mahogany rectangular judging like tables, on them were mahogany mallets, parchment paper and a quill and ink pot/
I felt myself just whelling up with such joy and love at seeing all of them, of course i didn't know most of them because they died ether when i was younger or before i was born. In the middle was my grandma (my dads mother), i focused in on her because i recognized her the most. I woke up and thought about my dream for a min but i was too half asleep until later on to really think about it, my mum came to wake me up and well she told me that my auntie died :\ lol i know strange... so i witnessed part of when she went into heaven and saw my grandma and everyone again, i feel like they wanted me to see it too for some reason... i think to tell me just to love and open myself out to the world. The sign they did with their arms is the sign of open arms that jesus used, i'm not religious but for some reason they were using it, could god and jesus be real?, religious people will say they are but i'd rather find that one out for myself.
So i know that everyone is happy and at peace which is really comforting but i'm really jealous they get to be so happy and at peace while i'm stuck here having to deal with people who never listen to a world i say or give me chances... i wish i knew how to love or open myself up. One things for sure... i know that heaven exists, that was a very special thing that i witnessed.
My family has a history of depression, myself included. My dad committed suicide in April of this year and I had a really hard time coming to terms with the fact that he was gone from this world. Im just telling you what gave me hope, but am in no way trying to force my opinion on you.
Anyways, when my dad died this April, it actually wasn't the first time he had attempted suicide. He had attempted suicide about six times, a couple I know about were slitting both of his wrists, taking a whole bottle of blood pressure medication, and taking 600 prescribed opiates. Any of those should have killed him, but during each of those attempts he didn't believe in God. A lot of Christians believe you have to perform certain acts to be received into heaven, but the bible says in Romans 10:9-10 9 'If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.'
Summarized, this just says that if you proclaim out loud and truly believe in your heart in God and have a relationship with him, that you will be saved. Right or wrong doings don't matter, because everyone falls short of the Glory of God. It's only His love and His blood that saves us.
Anyways, all of my dads suicide attempts never worked, while he didn't believe, but about two months before he died he told me of his love for God. I truly feel as if God was saving my dad until he had that relationship, so that he wouldn't have to suffer eternally in the only permanent dwelling besides Heaven.
I don't know if you will be able to relate to this story, or if it will just make you angry, but i can't help but to believe there was a reason he survived so many things that should have killed him. And I think it was to save him from suffering eternally. I can't help but to believe there is a Heaven and God.
Also, I don't feel like you forget everything after death. I think we have souls.
Hello, sorry that you are going through a hard time. Depression strikes many of us at one point or another, especially after the loss of a loved one so don't feel bad. Death, while inevitable, is a concept that we as human beings have a hard time grasping and understanding. Why did God/The Universe bring us into existence only to take us out in unexpected and sometimes horrific ways? Why get us accustomed to a routine of living only to take it from us? Well, try to think of it this way, where were you before you were born? do you remember feeling any pain? sadness? feeling alone? if the answer is no then it may make sense that we would eventually go back to the place from which we came, where there is no pain, sadness, feelings of loneliness etc. We are simply here to learn hard lessons about love, kindness, compromise, strength, faith, courage and sacrifice, just as Christ did for us when he died on the cross. While Death may always be sad, the spirit behind how we choose to process it is of significance. Prayer & Meditation may aid you in finding a more peaceful understanding of this process. And just as you pray to God, you may also speak to your deceased loved ones, trusting that they are always by your side, encouraging you, supporting you and loving you from their rightful place within the conscious universe. We are all SPIRITS having a HUMAN experience so the spirit of your loved ones is always there. You may also find solace in speaking with a grief counselor or therapist. Blessings to you xo
This is where all my hope comes from ☺️
No one knows. That means you don't know either way. Anyone who tells you different is lying or wrong. One of the great things about being human is that we don't actually "know" anything (according to what the commonly held meaning of the word "know" is) - we just accept certain things that repeat themselves time after times as being "true".
Someone can tell you God talked to them once and told them there was a heaven. You could look at it one way and say "he's got schizophrenia". You could look at it another way and say "he's lying". Or you could look at it another way and say "he's right!". There are multiple other alternatives as well that I don't have time to go into but I'm sure you get the point (i. e. we just don't know!).
Instead of getting down and confused about all the shit that's in life - just treat it as what it is - i. e. unimportant. Its a video game (or it could well be - we don't know!) so don't take it so seriously! Just try and enjoy yourself and "make Earth your Heaven" (i. e. make every situation you're in as fun as it can be! I hear some NAVY Seals who got captured by the Taleban tortured and one of them said taking about it - "there's nothing I could do about it - so I thought lets just enjoy it!")! You have that as an attitude and see if it makes you feel better. Maybe it won't - but what have you got to lose?
Good luck and good hunting. And remember if you're still breathing - you're still winning at the game of life.
The fact that all dead people, whether their spirit goes somewhere or not, dissolve into organic matter that makes beautiful flowers.
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I have 3 children 19 & 10 yr old sons, my daughter is 7. Three years ago their dad was killed in an accident.
My eldest boy has had a few what he says "visions" all of them he is driving his car and they are all of seeing accidents, at stop lights, country roads, he believes when he has them it's his dad warning him and reminding him to take car. My middle boy has told me when he is having a bad day he listens to a song to make him feel better, he says he feels like a hand is on his back and the song repeats over and over, I just thought he liked the song! ... The song " you got a friend in me". My daughter says I'm just going to lie in the lounge eith "Daddy", I asked her once is "Daddy ok and happy", her reply was " I can't see him silly I can only feel him"! He feels warm and giggly! Every year on her birthday she asks Daddy for a rainbow 3/3 so far, take that any way you wish!! I have not felt anything other than a song that plays an awful lot anywhere The Angels " I just want to be with you", that was not a song played at his funeral. there are 1996 songs on my husbands iPod and it random plays it on a regular basis.
for me, I believe in the afterlife because of God. Before, I wasn't much of a believer in God, so I wouldn't notice God's works, but when I started believing in God, I started to see what God does for me and it's hard to deny the existence of an afterlife if God has already touched your heart :) If you're open to it, and even want to believe in God and an afterlife, I suggest you step into the path of following God. At first, you may not believe in God, but once you pray and learn about God, and even ask God for help in that matter, you will experience God's love on your own, and when God wants to be heard, and when that person wants to hear God, God will communicate in ways that you will understand him, and afterwards, it will be useless to deny the existence of God or afterlife. I hope everything goes well with you :)
I see God all around me. In nature. The beauty of the world, kids, my boyfriend especially ( @Nuns_In_Heat )!!! I was born into a Christian family and I stopped believing in God a few years back but I started believing in him again after he started doing some great things in my life. I guess just seeing the beauty of God all around me helps me know that God is there, and he is OBVIOUSLY there too because there is no way I'd be with my man if there was no God. And because of that, I believe in heaven. I don't know, I guess just believing in God, Jesus, and Heaven gives me hope that there is more after this, and hopefully my boyfriend and I will get to spend eternity there together <3
Ironically I'm agnostic/atheist lol!!! I love you Katie!♡
I honestly have thought about this because sadly I've had some co-workers die and family members die recently within the last 2 years. And this year I've experienced 1 family death and the death of 2 co-workers so it has me seeing that life is temporary. You really have to enjoy and cherish it because you only get one chance and it's short.
I do hope there is a God. And I have had paranormal experiences before to kind of believe that there is probably one. I say probably because everybody has a hint of doubt or uncertainty but that's when faith comes in. If you grow your faith by going to church, living for God, reading the Bible -- all in sincerity (this is the key) you will have less doubts and more certainty of an after life. Hence why it's called faith cause you're basing it all off faith and hope.
I hope you get better with depression but remember to cherish your life cause this is your only chance do what makes you happy and create dreams and follow them!
I don't worry about death. I know it will eventually come, so why live your life worried about it. Just think about all the things you do have, or would like to work towards. When I'm feeling down, I list off my friends. State some of the qualities and things I like about myself. Give myself a goal. I don't know what happens after death. Maybe God is just an idea. Something to guide us in life. In this case we need to live life to the fullest. Maybe God is real. Then we have heaven to forward to. Don't concern yourself with life and death. Just worry about what you can do to become a better person and live your life to the fullest.
Stay Positive,
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You dont die when you die. At least not in the way you think. You see when you die, you leave your body behind and your true essence or a. k. a your soul disconnects from the body ( or the shell because thats all the body is) and goes into another world or dimension of living. You remember EVERYTHING when you die because your soul has everything you have ever said, experienced, thought, felt, etc imprinted in itself.
If you're really interested in this stuff, check out 13 signs of astrology ( this guys YouTube channel will just ohmahgaaah)
Just smile:)
Warning: My opinion isn't the most cheerful one. It's quite depressing, actually, so since you're depressed at the time, you might want to skip over mine.
As a non-believer, I don't believe in an afterlife or reïncarnation or ghosts or other paranormal stuff.
I don't believe anything happens after death. I believe all life (or at least all animal/human life) is just the electricity in your brain. You body is just a tool (and you should maintain this tool). Once you die, you stop existing. The electricity in your head vanishes (and it doesn't reappear somewhere else). Your body is left behind and starts to decay. You stop to exist. You don't feel anything (not physically, not emotionally), because you're gone. You can't think anymore. I a way, you're free from everything.
So in the end, you just vanish from the world and your journey ends. Only your actions and the memories others have of you will remain, until those disappear as well.
Well I honestly think there is nothing after your dead, your just dead. Belief in god (s) trys to defray that with the idea that there is more but honestly I feel it takes strength and fortitude as a human being to realize the truth and find your own meaning in life and not after life. I myself am living in order to make a positive difference in the world, a loving memory by my personal and extended family. For example my main goal is to set things in motion so technology can create a more free, social society rather then the dystopia a lot of people are imagining.
Have you heard of string theory or superstring theory? It's called the theory of everything. In the higher dimensions it gets to the point of like every possible start to the universe (every possible big bang), every possible timeline for every possible big bang, and every possible outcome for every possible timeline for every possible big bang :3
This actually made me believe God might exist, though not necessarily have morals just a higher dimensional being who can play with space and time in our dimension :P
Hope this helps I know not everyone's a physicist xD
I've struggled with this a lot myself, as I am spiritual and believe in something greater than ourselves, but I do not like putting a name on it and I do not believe in the institution of the church or organized religion. To each their own, but those outlets just don't do it for me, and I don't get satisfactory answers that way. I've delved into reading about the topic. I just read a book called "We Don't Die: George Anderson's Conversations With the Other Side". It made me feel a lot better. I will be looking for other books similar in nature. The more I read, the more self assured I feel that what we have waiting for us once we leave this realm, is far greater than any of us could imagine hear on earth. Good luck to you.
I would say that its inside of you. The thing is, you should probably not base your happiness on something you can't really count on, you know? There are so many people who will assure you nothing happens, but having faith is something that comes from inside you. What I mean is, you can believe in it all you want and that might make you happy, but if you're not happy, maybe focus on other things. Because you are the one doubting it, maybe you should accept the uncertainty.
I was depressed around the time I started really questioning things like that. Watch movies about the good in people (The Help, maybe), listen to music by Lifehouse or Ron Pope.
I can feel it. The mind, with its abstractions, projections, and images, is not the right tool! It's function is more practical.
The Osho quote sums it up
"Only one percent of people know a little bit deeper. Poets, painters, musicians, dancers, singers have a sensitivity that they can feel beyond the body. They can feel the beauties of the mind, the sensitivities of the heart, because they live on that plane themselves. But a musician, a painter, a poet, lives on a different plane. He does not think, he feels. And because he lives in his heart, he can feel the other person's heart. That is ordinarily called love. It is rare. I am saying only one percent perhaps, once in a while."
The spirit doesn't exist (Osho didn't mention spirit in that quote, and neither did you until just now), and love is just chemicals. These are facts. Poetry is nice, but reality is reality. Your "feelings" don't count for much in the description of reality. You can live a lie, but that seems wrong to me.
I'm happy to have dialogue, you know, that actually involves *listening* to, having interest in, and *respecting* the opinions of the other person; instead of barking your opinion. These arguments have been played out on internet fora, ad tedium, and are usually an abuse of 'reason' in any case. You know as well as I do, for example, that in a strict sense you can never prove or disprove the existence of the spirit. But you always will do, when you use a material paradigm or orientation, to try and measure and grasp the non material. People who are still open, and still seek, may yet find. This is not the same as credulity, nor exoteric religion, and I'm sorry you, Dawkins and Harris perceive it that way. @Metlahead
I don't perceive it that way, I just like reality. I am not willing to have a dialogue because there is no point, as you have said.
There is nothing you can do to escape the material world. If something happens after death (of which there is NO reason to think there is other than your desperate need to last longer) you will not be able to reach/understand/stumble upon/touch/see/feel or experience in any way until it actually happens. So why even think about something so ridiculous to begin with? Why not put that energy into making meaning in the life you have NOW, that is certain and most of all REAL. "People who are open" I am told by many I am the most open person they know, it even scares some people, but I am only open to reality. The truth of the universe is probably much more profound and complex than we can ever, and I mean EVER imagine, yet still most likely doesn't involve anything for us humans after death. "Open" people are simply ignorant people. In this case.
I do not believe you forget everything after. Personally I believe that people rest until Heaven comes to Earth. Then they are resurrected into the new earth. But that probably does not help you at all. What helps me well. My personal experience with theology. It more of a faith thing than anything else. Just like I believe I will wake up the next day. I know horrible example. Even if nothing does happen after death. Meaning you just turn into dirt (dust) then that is still okay.
you fall asleep into a deep sleep and seize to exist now what you must ask yourself is not what happens when i seize to exist but what happens when i do exist do i commit suicide which is just a way of escaping do i follow religion which is just a way of giving life meaning even if it might not be true or do i just live without religion with passion for life with freedom to do what you wish in this existence you have and causing a revolution with your presence everywhere you go leaving a mark on this earth so when you do die you can close your eyes peacefully and think i lived well.
I got hit by a car in 2008, i was officially dead for 4 mins. It was bright, i saw the shape of a person, a man. He said that i was too young to die, so i should return to the real world. Then i woke up and heard that i was dead. So yeah, i believe there's something out there when we die, but nobody knows for sure.
That is pretty wild.
@muspelhem_3 yeah i know its weird, weird but true
Glad you're still with us :)
@muspelhem_3 thank you :D
who ever this is; in October 213 my husband died suddenly and very unexpectedly. It has been the single most traumatic event of my life. However, now almost 15 months later, life is very good. Some very unexpected and truly wonderful things have occurred since his death. I miss him every single day but I would not have had the experiences I have had if he was still alive. I would trade all of them, but because I can't, I am grateful that I have been given the opportunity to be so blessed.
Worry about what you can see and the things unseen will be made visible.
Take care of things today so that the things of tomorrow can be taken cared of, and that you don't have to keep thinking about yesterday's stuff.
God, reincarnation etc, if the point was what comes after, then today wouldn't be so visible, and some sort of a marker for the future would be more evident.
If you want to see the invisible, you gota work through the visible first.
I know it's an overused, cliche word but you just hve to go out on faith. And why not believe that there is something after death when the alternative is what? Just ceasing to exist? I would rather put my faith in God existing than I would spending my life knowing that I wasn't created for a purpose. There has got to be more to life than just existing.
honestly you don't have to prove to yourself there is life after death. you just need to have a open mind and remember. there are times you have been wrong about something and it is impossible for you or any human to know everything or have all the answers. I know there is so much out there that we can't even begin to understand.
The belief that all this bullshit that life has become will finally be over!!! YES! THIS SHITTY STATE THE WORLD HAS COME TO IS DONE FOR ME!!! HAHAHAHA! FUCK YOU LOSERS STILL WORRYING ABOUT CURRENCY AND HALF-OFF SALES! I'M FINALLY FREE OF YOUR BULLSHIT!!!
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