It typically takes more muscle mass on a taller guy to look as muscular. It's an illusion due to the proportions of length to girth/width. Bodybuilders are typically shorter guys. That said, it takes a lot of hard work either way and I'm not negating how much effort short guys put in at all. It's just that having 16" arms at 5'8 looks much larger proportionally against 16" arms at 6'2.
I only started actually looking jacked around 200lbs at 6'2 which means eating over 3000 calories daily just to maintain my weight. It's expensive to buy that much food if you want to eat clean and I have to constantly eat so it's more than a hobby, it's a lifestyle. So in part the level of commitment needed and the cost are a deterrent to a lot of people which is just amplified if you're taller.
The biggest problem is yes, TV and media portrayal of athletes and fitness being extremely unrealistic for most people to attain naturally. Only at an elite level will natural weight lifters look close to like those people you see on TV and most people don't have the discipline needed to attain that level of physique.
Yes i agree, you obviously work out, but honestly friend isn't the media bashing short guys as weak all the time? I see this all the time and i think its unfair especially when i see many short guys that are really strong and their height doesn't have any impact in their strength.. Apart from that i want to mention, although i agree to the size of the arms appearing larger on short guys, that many lanky tall guys compare themselves to short guys that are way larger than themselves and use this excuse to negate all the hard work a short dude has done and that he is way stronger than him. All the observations about heightism i have encountered are on the internet, personally it was never an obstacle. Maybe because i have other great attributes maybe the country i live... i dont know
Shorter guys tend to have shorter arms and legs, therefore decreasing the distance they need to move a weight which means less work is needed. Work = Force * Distance. For example, someone who is 6' 6" squatting 400lbs needs to produce more work than someone who is 5' 6" squatting the same weight.
So te short guy lifts more weight and he is stronger.. You all use this stupid argument as if you move the weights 2 meters away than the short guys. Your longer limbs are judt weaker that is what i see. Your whole body is so stretched out that it cannot be wife easily which will make you have a strong center of gravity. Only strongmen are tall and widw because they are 120 kg + and they take supplememts and hormones all the fucking day.
I have a thing for tall and lanky, so...
You're obviously a short guy using a female account, so I am not sure if you're the one who should be talking about "sick".
And yes i am 5'7'' and tired of all this bullshit about taller guys being stronger than shorter because of height.. How would you feel seeing all this stuff on internet while you are way stronger than most tall guys in your gym? Honestly do you like injustice in the world? This is way unfair to make short men feel bad about their masculinity when it absolute bullshit.
I never said anything bad about short guys. I just mentioned that I prefer tall and lanky. It would be the same if you said that you prefer blonde or brunette chicks or short/tall chicks or girls with big/small boobs. I have the freedom to like whatever I like. No excuses for that.
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the science behind that. is the tall guys don't work out as much. so their bodies are stretched long ways. as they are growing up. but guys who always working out. are big and those muscles weigh them down and it stunts their growth. but there are guys who are tall then they grow their muscles as adults.
well, if you worked out more than you probably would understand muscle density.
Men with longer arms have less muscle density therefore they cannot lift as much. It would be the same for their legs and the rest of the muscles.
LUCKILY you don't have to lift massively heavy weights to be built.
All the fucking lanky guys i see are speaking as if all shorter guys are wide and stocky... FFS just open you eyes and see that it is not as usual as you think for shorter guys to be stocky! Althought tall guys are crying about not getting weight and their arms being so long that they can't lift so much weight.. Seriously i am sick and tired of the excuses that tall faggots do while fucking tv always makes them appear as if they are stronger... It makes me crazy every time i think that society percieves this lanky faggot from the gym as being stronger than me when i am way more wide and lift way more heavier than him.. Its absolutely unfair!
Yeah, but fitness guys who take it seriously do not rely on the size of the barbells. that's ridiculous.
I have plenty of routines that use 5lb and tear my arms up.
Your gym must be competitive as hell.
it isn't competitive and most people just look at their routine.. But i feel bad about myself dude... Personally i have heard many great comments about my strength but it makes me really sad that society percieves short men as being weak.. I just can't accept this shit ! My father is shorter than me and generally the strongest mentally and sometimes physically men i have met were on the short side... Why society makes these men appear so weak? I hate injustice and this one is about me also.
Amd before you think about the world strongest men that are really tall tale a minute to think. Are all tall guys capable of achieving this body? apart from that these guys take supplements and hormones to achieve this tremendous weight with reasonable body fat. Without them they could achieve only body weights that are a hievable by short guys that have the right body type. Its so ignorant that tall guys take pride on the worlds strongest men qhen they lack most of the other attributes
Shorter is stronger in these things... fighting, weight lifting. Taller is better at running and basketball. Dont let it get to you man. just dont take any shit from them in reality they know you will beat them up in a fight
It is an illusion.
illusion that they can't lift anything? i know that short guys feel their bodies faster but i am bored to listen to this bullshit everytime. Most tall guys have this lanky body type that you can see in short guys too but its more rare. Next you will tell me that short men have shorter limbs that make them lift more because of less distance? Seriously explain after all this why short men are seen as weaker?
1) They fill out faster
2) They have stronger arms because they are shorter
3) They can be stronger and more compact at the same weight
4) and tall men can get to the 100+ killos only taking supplements all the day.
Why society shows that tall men are better when all this happens?
This is absolutely fucked up
What you aren't aware of is biophysics.
For some things such as lifting, it will be more difficult for taller guys because their longer limbs mean that they will have higher torques and longer distances to contend with.
At the same time, because of the length of their limbs, they can deliver higher torques. Notice all of the really good baseball pitchers who are the fastest throwers; they are all tall guys because their height enables them to have higher torque during the windup and this leads to fast ball speeds when he lets go of the ball.
Ideally, though, if a tall guy works out with the objective of building his muscles, he will be more powerful than most smaller guys. I think a classic example there is Shaquille O'Neal.
Ok i will tell you the truth. I am a weightlifter and my height is 5'7''. So you understand that my question is pointless because i already know the answer. I know about biophysics but i also know that i see short guys lifting more they can take a weight lift it and move it to a different position holding it better than a tall guy. I speak with many people from other gyms and this is what they witness also we talked about how stronger legs short people can have. You talk about basketball and a sport that is made for tall men...98% of humans without supplements (tall or short) can't get more than 90 killos while maintaining a good bodyfat like 10% . This makes me think that short men at last have the advantage due to their shorter limbs. But even if i dont take all this into consideration then why is society tries to make us believe that tall men are so superior? It is so unfair for short guys that excell in sports
All this craze about tall men started when the supplements appeared in the markets because it was the only way that tall men could get some meat on their bones without their bodyfat getting out of proportion... Excuse me but this doesn't make them superior but the opposite.. humans are not made to use supplements to have a good bodyfat and have some strength compared to their height
That's not so at all; "tall dark and handsome" has been around for generations longer than the supplement industry.
Frankly, there are simply other physical skills which are easier for tall men than shorter men and these things provide many evolutionary advantages. Being short has a different set of evolutionary advantages too.
Really, your question needs to be directed at females since they are the governors of our species evolution; males are not.
explain me please the evolutionary advantages.. If you talk about strength its absolute horseshit.. If you talk about dominance i can laugh out loud... because i have seen many tall funny looking guys and many short intimidating guys (it was all about their aura). If you get back to prehistoric times as many people like to say the smaller the hunter the better his ability to get close to the victim and of course the more time he can run for long distance (look at the marathon world champion). As for this stupid phrase it was started by the retarded americans that are known for their obsession with height. Dark was never the ideal in Europe lol... A well proportioned body was always something humans looked and admired and i can't say that this is what i can see in a tall guy most of the time.
Here are some evolutionary advantages:
1. The ability to run faster thus having a higher probability of survival and reproduction by evading predators or enemies.
2. The ability to throw faster thus making the projectiles that you hurl more lethal.
3. The ability to outreach your shorter enemy in hand-to-hand combat.
4. With increased body size, you have the ability to better shield your females and children.
5. With increased limb and hand size, you can more easily carry or hold more large items.
"Dark" has to do with melanin; that is something that affects skin color and hair color.
Dark skin is a natural evolved characteristic of persons who originally lived in warm or hot climates. This is because they have plenty of exposure to sunlight, so the melanin helps these people from getting skin cancer. However, sunlight is critical for Vitamin D production. In the far latitudes, sunlight is not as strong, so the risk of skin cancer is much lower, but the need for the body to synthesize Vitamin D is just a critical, so people in these latitudes have paler skin so their skin can absorb more sunlight to synthesize Vitamin D.
I know that nutrition played and important role in the increase of height. But i dont agree with the advantages you say. First of all tall men dont throw faster i dont know where you saw this.
Second increased body size is a little funny to say. Because most tall men are skinny. I am 85 kgs and i outweight most tall guys i know even some 1.90 cm guys.
You say limb and hand size as if there is something that can be used and the hand of the short guy can't hold. Also we said before that shorter limbs make it easier to lift heavier objects. About the one that you with outreach. Height can be advantageous but also leaves you with many unprotected spots on your legs. Also the armour that a tall guy should wear would be too heavier than the one that the short guy needs. Lastly about the ability to run faster i have seen that short guys can make really fast startings (generally explosive running abilities) which means that they can run and find a safe spot to hide (small size helps for that too
"First of all tall men dont throw faster i dont know where you saw this."
*sigh* Many of these advantages are all based in physics.
The release speed of a baseball will be related to rotational velocity times length of arm. So, if two pitchers have the same rotational speed, the release speed of the taller pitcher will be higher. However, the rotational speed of the smaller guy may be higher to compensate for the difference in arm length. However, generally, their rotational speeds are about the same. This is because factors related to muscle mass and rotational inertia. This is getting too complicated to explain. However, it is possible for a guy to be so tall that his rotational speed is lower. So, in other words, there is something of an ideal height and musculature, but, generally, it is the taller pitchers that throw faster than the shorter ones.
www.sciencedaily.com/.../130708161943.htm
In baseball, bigger still better: Elite pitchers continue to be taller and thus throw faster
Date:
July 8, 2013
Source:
Duke University
Summary:
What unites golf, baseball and hockey is the "falling forward" motion involved, whether it is a pitcher's arm or golfer's swing. Basically, the larger and taller the athlete, the more force he or she can bring to bear as his or her mass falls forward. A new theory predicts that elite pitchers will continue to be taller and thus throw faster and seems also to apply to athletes who compete in golf, hockey and boxing.
i personally have seen that short or tall men with wide shoulders can throw things better.. and sad but true short men usually have wider shoulders compared to the length of their limbs which makes their throughs more powerfull.. I dont get what you say with inertia but my logic says that you say this thing i say here. Anyway maybe i am not the right short guy to speak because i always was stronger than my friends short or tall and that was even more obvious when i started weightlifting.. From what i can understand its a lot more than simply being tall and that is what is unfair for short dudes.. When you present tall guys regardless of their body type as being stronger and better than any short guy that has absolutely perfect genetics for shoulders and generally muschle stamina..
Well, I am not universally saying that tall guys are better. Short men are ideal for certain activities and tall men are ideal for other activities. For instance, there will never be a Triple Crown winner ridden by a jockey who is 6 feet tall and there will never be a player shorter than 6 feet tall who will be the #1 shot blocker in the NBA.
The media has nothing to do with it; it is human female instinct that functions like this:
1. The world is full of things that want to kill us.
2. The bigger our defenders are, the more capable (we believe) they are at protecting us.
3. So, I desire to mate with larger males; keeping a larger male will more likely keep my children alive to adulthood and, furthermore, my children are more likely to be larger and better be able to survive and protect me when I am old.
Ask a G@G question directed at women as to:
1. What height male do they prefer and
2. Why.
This is what you dont understand... i understand clearly that women preder larger males. but have you seen somr short guys that are really stocky not fat and wide shouldered? If you put them next to a tall guy they are bigger heavier and stronger but just shorter... Media tries to make them apear as weaker.
Nah, your at the wrong gym.
That's hilarious. But you keep believing that (;
a lot of guys take supplements height don't matter. Where are you getting your information from? Stop listening to whoever they are. The dumbest mutherfuckers on the planet. Look at the major athelets - THEY'RE NOT MIDGETS. Olympian weight lifters, professional wrestlers, pro football players, pro hockey players, rugby, whatever! Ditch those with short man complex. They're distorting your view of reality.
You understand the difference bettween a short guy and a midget and the proportions of their body? of course tall men need suplements more than short guys. how is the tall guy 1.90 cm goimg to fill his body when he needs to be 100 kg plus with normal food? he takes supplements to fill and have a normal body fat for his height oyerwise he is going to get really fat because the food is not pure protein but has carbs and fat more than protein. Look at the nutrition information of foods. I personally have nobody talk to me about height and most people tell me that i am really strong its all these things on the internet that i can't understand. Maybe its the country i live that isn't putting so much emphasis on height. I dont get the short man syndrome i know that when you make someone feel bad about his masculinity he is going to answer whether he is tall or short
Your delusional.
"You're delusional"
Midget was sarcasm. A figure of speech. And yes Andre The Giant excelled.
Delusional.
No. It's only my answer for those who are delusional. It's useless to continue talking with them. They don't see reality. And that's ok. They can't help it.
You seriously haven't said anything to back up your opinion you just throw a name of a guy that had a medical condition and you can't even saybsomething about him.. on the other side i told you many things to have a nice conversation and you refuse to speak... tall guys suddenly started appearing in sports and bodybuilding and strongmen when supplements ans hormones appeared.. think about maradona igor vovanchyn piros dimas just 3 examples of excelance in sports by short guys in football boxing and weightlifting
Lol. Ok. You win. Whatever you say. Lmao.
Yes ma'am...
Sigh... Yes whatever you say. You win.
Just take your win and go. What's so hard about that? The truth obviously does't matter. Only winning. And so you win. Just take your win. Good luck.
There must be something wrong with you.. the truth is that there ar many short guys that can be better than tall guys. If you want to feel superior to short men you must earn this not just talk about it as if you are de facto better.. As long there are short guys that are bettet than you its silly for you to act that way. Good luck to you too
Lol. I'm only 5'8. I'm just giving you the facts. Once again "facts" obviously don't matter - Only winning. So "you win". Just go away.
Yes ma'am you're right.
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