Yes, you've exposed our true evil plans. I want to marry my boyfriend to take all of his money, not have sex with him, and be a total birch for the rest of our lives... it has nothing to do with the fact that I love him and want to cherish commitment to him for the rest of our lives.
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I also find it hilarious how you say "apparently to women being with them for several years is not sufficient evidence of commitment" yet you talk about cheating on your wife later on in life... LOL. the logic of a niave young 20-something amuses me.
"I also find it hilarious how you say "apparently to women being with them for several years is not sufficient evidence of commitment" yet you talk about cheating on your wife later on in life... LOL. the logic of a niave young 20-something amuses me."
I also find it hilarious you like to twist words to suit your agenda.
I said. If you find someone whose better suited outside of cheating (which is a option you can take) that you are screwed. Listing out that it is possible to still have sex with other women while in a marriage isn't advocating anything. it's being grounded in reality that you have the option to do that but consequences come with it such as giving the wife even more incentive to divorce you if she finds out.
". it has nothing to do with the fact that I love him and want to cherish commitment to him for the rest of our lives."
Read point 2 again. If you need him to put a ring to show he is truly committed to you then you are just insecure.
Some of Today's Toms have a Problem down the Path of "D" Day Destruction in Committing to just one woman. Only have eyes on Their "One only Love," and that is what is Between their legs. They are Not Ready nor Raring to be in a Real Relationship, No matter if they Would marry the Queen herself, It makes no Difference... Happy Go Lucky Habits are Hard to Break. Good luck and Great question @BubbleBoy69 xx
These bullshit has already been disproved. The earliest form of marriage goes back to the ancient sumers 2300 BC. The purpose of marriage was to force the men to spend his resources for the women and the children (and also the family of the bride). The only benefit for the men has been sex. At all, men cannot benefit from marriage because this institution is not made for them. It is made for women and children.
This was my plan all along... to pistol whip my bitch of a husband, steal all his money and run. Didn't Steve Miller Band write a song about this? 🎶Bobby Sue took the money and run. Go onnnnn take the money and runnnnn🎶
Uh, no, This is a story about Billy Joe and Bobbie Sue Two young lovers with nothin' better to do Than sit around the house, get high, and watch the tube And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose They headed down to, ooh, old El Paso That's where they ran into a great big hassle Billy Joe shot a man while robbing his castle Bobbie Sue took the money and run Billy Mack is a detective down in Texas You know he knows just exactly what the facts is He ain't gonna let those two escape justice He makes his livin' off of the people's taxes
Bobbie Sue, whoa, whoa, she slipped away Billy Joe caught up to her the very next day
They got the money, hey You know they got away They headed down south and they're still running today Singin' go on take the money and run
@Waffles731 😂😂😂 I know I know... I just thought I should play the evil woman part. Maybe American Woman would have been a better choice. I need to sleep on it see what I can come up with 🤔
Lmao dude. So much bitterness in this take. Honestly, if you ever did get married, I would feel bad for your wife. Being married to someone with that kind of perspective on things would be a nightmare.
I am just waiting for the mature old wise men to come in here and teach you better :) :) :)
While I am not pro marriage per say, it is the meaning that people put behind it that makes it so bad... Also, you make it sound like it is some horrible thing to do... I dont like this MyTake and Im not evening planning on marrying myself.'
it's a very negative way of looking at marriage, I prefer to look at it from the positive side
Just a few things: when you get a child together in marriage the man is automatically the legal father and when the woman dies it is also better to be married
I also don't believe in marraige in the traditional sense. But it's not a man vs women thing, it's just the concept of marraige is the most ridiculous thing ever. I don't think anyone should get married. Many men play women in marraige too for financial reasons and also visas.
I like the part where all of these points are based on no concrete evidence and are all just generalizations made by the author. It's like you pulled this out of a generic sitcom or something.
Totally agree. My dad got divorced from his previous wife, but he has been with my mom for 26 years now. And my grandmother and grandfather are now engaged since 66 years.
@Darkone1 That's totally unrealistic. The only marriages that ends are those who are taken by early 20s persons with no economic stability, with persons that have only known for a couple of years and with not right start at all.
@Arne123123 That's not what I said. I said that's just relationships not marriage. Meaning that's simply how relationships are, so that's not a reason for not getting married. That would be a "reason" ( and a fairly weak one) to never date a single person ever. That's a relationship issue not a marriage issue.
If you fall out of love, people change, you guys end up fighting and hate each other, you find you fancy someone else etc you can have a clean break in a relationship with each of you going your separate ways.
If any of this happens in a marriage, seeing that studies show women date up more often than not the man is penalized in the nasty divorce that follows. Leaving him in financial ruin while the woman gets nice pay day in the breakup.
Why push for marriage when I'm already showing i'm committing and love you by being with you for many years in a relationship without leaving?
That's because he married the wrong woman. If a woman isn't a complete bitch and asshole you can get divorced without her trying to destroy your livelihood.
And you think men should take that risk of a gamble when the relationship was working fine without the marriage tag?
If she is the right woman why does she need marriage when my love/commitment to here should be enough? Why does she need the government to actively take part in our relationship now?
Marriage doesn't change the person, people remain the same. We just choose to be blind to the things we don't like. Marrying a woman is no more of a risk than her being your girlfriend. Who is to say your long term girlfriend isn't going to get sick of you and come back and give you herpes or AIDS or something? Relationships are a risk period. Being afraid of that risk just makes you weak.
"Marriage doesn't change the person, people remain the same. We just choose to be blind to the things we don't like. "
Again people do change as they get older. If we look at what women prioritize in mates in their 20's compared to 30's we see a big contrast. Same with men. You might of met a girl when you were both young in your 20's and what kept you together was the parties, steamy sex and drinking buddies. You may have thought she was great and been with her for 5 years and pop the question and marry her. However, prioritize change in late 20's and beyond. She wants a baby, your not ready yet. She get frustrated and fighting starts and eventually leaves you.
This is just an example.
"Marrying a woman is no more of a risk than her being your girlfriend. Who is to say your long term girlfriend isn't going to get sick of you and come back and give you herpes or AIDS or something? "
And who is to say a married wife wouldn't cheat on you and give you the same thing.
Exactly my point. That these issues are relationship issues and not a marriage one. It's a problem with the relationship not the fact that you're married.
" Relationships are a risk period. Being afraid of that risk just makes you weak."
No it does not it makes you logical because you look at the cost/reward before deciding its worth it. If something has more cons to it than benefits then you aren't going to invest in it.
Because that's what happens when you marry the wrong person. Just about everything you've said can happen in a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. It's just relationships that are the risk. If you're afraid of this happening in a marriage then you should be afraid of it in a longterm relationship. You should just never date anyone then.
I'm going to give you a peak at someone whose my friend of how being married in a way in now way makes you less likely for your wife to cheat and give you an STD.
He's a rich guy and owns several pizza places. He use to having sex with this girl in her early 20's and eventually they broke up because she wanted marriage and a baby. She got with her boyfriend and even when in relationship she was hitting him on a side and letting him creampie her.
She got pregnant with 3 kids (the first kid might not even be the guy). Needless to say she message him recently to "meet up" but he turned her down because she's not as fresh anymore.
And this guy while being rich is in his 30's and is able to smash 19 yr old girls and young pretty girls. i even met him coming up on an elevator and it was clear he got some kind of STD from eating a girl out. Yet, married women wanted to "meet up" and fuck him. She could easily transfer back that STD to her husband without his knowledge.
So you see a woman in marriage is in no way less likely to cheat than a woman out of marriage. In fact gag had tinder study done a couple months back where it was stated that many married women are on tinder fucking behind their husbands back.
You still aren't getting it. If it's going to happen in a LTR or marriage then it's going to be doomed right but the difference is the man is going to pay a penalty of getting divorce raped.
If it doesn't happen in a LTR then it shouldn't matter if we get married or not because we are happy together and stay together. Marriage does not strength or weaken a relationship.
Because they married the wrong person. Not once did I say anything about being less likely to catch a disease from you spouse. The issue is the RELATIONSHIP. Marriages are also relationships, if their is an issue in the marriage it's because of the RELATIONSHIP. Also, your friend is a scum bag.
So get a prenup. If you going into a marriage thinking about the divorce then of course it's going to fail. You're afraid of commitment it's as simple as that. A bf/gf relationship is much more convenient because although you're committed for the meantime it's simply a way to allow one foot out of the door.
Prenups aren't a gurrantee. Plenty of judges throw them out once the divorce happens.
"You're afraid of commitment it's as simple as that"
I don't see how not choosing to marry a woman but spending years with her by her side shows you fear commitment.
BF/GF relationship is in where anymore less than a husband/wife. like I pointed out in 2. Women seem to want a safeguard for men to not leave in the form of divorce. If as a woman you are so insecure you fear your man is going to leave you when being your boyfriend then why are you getting married to him as a husband?
Same can be applied to men. if you are so scared of your girl leaving you as a girlfriend then why would you propose to her as a wife?
Your logic is flawed. If you don't want to get married then that's good for you, but if you're marrying for the benefits then you're obviously marrying for the wrong reasons.
Ah, finally got what you mean. Sure it can happen in all relationships, the point with the entire post was why get married when there is no benefit over a committed relationship but way more risks if it doesn't work out. Why would I want to marry my gf? Other then the social pressure and shaming you see an example of from girls here.
@Arne123123 The only risk I can see him emphasizing is about money but who is to say your live in girlfriend isn't going to rob you blind? I don't see it as being worse off than relationships I view it as far better than relationships. If someone can't find the benefits in marriage and see only bad then it's their perspective that is the issue. Also marrying for purely benefits is marrying for all the wrong reasons. The risks he's saying can happen in any kind of relationship. This should just be about staying single your whole life.
It's not only money but i place emphasis. Property often get shared over more towards the ex-wife and women (if children) are involved often get custody of the kids.
These same things can happen to women. My dad has a friend who has to pay alimony to her ex husband because he's "disabled" and he refuses to get a job. He's psycho and abusive and he remains dependent on her so he can always have some link to her life.
Men carefully pick out a ring get on their knees and beg a woman to marry them then turn around when their wives don't cater to them like they are a sick child and then men throw tantrums like "THAT FUCKING BITCH TRICKED ME!! SHE WON'T WAIT ON ME LIKE A SLAVE AND FUCK ME AT THE DROP OF A HAT AHHHHHH!!!"
Well, yes, if you act like a slave, don't be surprised if you get treated like one. Men need to learn self-respect. Men vis-a-vis women are now like black people vis-a-vis white people in the United States before the civil rights movement.
here is some advice for you men. Women want to ride the cock carousel until their baby rabies kick in. Then they want to find a good provider male otherwise know as the "Nice guy"who will get her a house and good genes for her offspring. Then she will get tired of the provider male and the boring domestic life and kick you out. divorce you and use big daddy government to force you to continue to pay for the house, alimony, child support, and since she is frumpy now, she will move in her new fuck boy and he will live in your house, and raise your kids. You are just the lucky bastard who gets to pay for it all.
Actually marriage was benefit MEN in a lot of ways as it benefits women. Marriage was created so that men who otherwise would have no chance could find a partner. If it weren't for marriage most men would not get laid, only the "alpha" men would impregnate most of the women. There would be no women left for most the other men. Which is why men tend to be more possessive of their woman and women aren't. Marriage controls the birth rates as well so there wouldn't be millions of 'bastard","fatherless" children walking around, since one man can impregnate hundreds of women while women cannot do that with men.
This is not true at all. Men need very few things to get laid from 98% of women, with the most important being money. Women are also 51% of the population, so if you are saying women would crowd to just the alphas (for hypthetical purposes let's put this number at 10%), then women would willing enter into a submissive form of relationship, because obviously the alpha would have many other women to procreate with. Men tend to be more possessive of women because they realize once they are married, woman can take half of their stuff without any justification. A marriage is the only relationship that allows for retirement and financial planning by one party without actually having to do anything. Single women have to work and bust their butts, but married women essentially win the lotto. I do like what you are saying about alphas, however. I'm very educated, an athlete, and make six figures, so would you be interested in meeting for some alpha male dominance?
the bank was created to keep people's money safe yet ironically today they're being used to actually rip people off via taxes and interest.
"If it weren't for marriage most men would not get laid, only the "alpha" men would impregnate most of the women."
i'm not an alpha, never gotten married yet I still got laid a few times in the past. and yea non alpha dudes who make 6 digits a year will always be an alpha through marriage.
"There would be no women left for most the other men. Which is why men tend to be more possessive of their woman and women aren't"
yea where can i meet these cuckqueens that you're referring to?
"Marriage controls the birth rates as well so there wouldn't be millions of 'bastard","fatherless" children walking around, since one man can impregnate hundreds of women while women cannot do that with men.
someone needs to leave their house or should i say "cave" more often
Well I agree with him and I'm not a virgin, in fact I have no problem attracting the opposite sex if she's in my league. Is that the only argument you got by using a shame tactic against men who spill the truth, he's only explaining the true nature of women.
I FUCKING LOVE when women say this. You all assume we are virgins, because if we don't want a stupid relationship we simply never had sex. But it is the fucking opposite. We do have sex, AND ONLY SEX. Guys without lots of experience would never realize what OP said.
@Takyon Thats what I mean these girls seem to forget that the true alpha males are the ones who they are trying to get commitment from but can't because they prefer to be a player and sleep with lots of women... so am guessing their misogynist virgins also that are missing out on a womans pain in ass as Jxpxtxr would put it lol
@Takyon Lol yeah and women with and without lots of experience would never wanna date a guy like that and because you can't handle that fact you pretend it's your "choice" to not date anyone so you don't have to face the reality of being a total loser in life –it's okay, I would probably be like that, too, if nobody wanted me.. ;)
@Takyon "because if we don't want a stupid relationship we simply never had sex. But it is the fucking opposite. We do have sex, AND ONLY SEX. Guys without lots of experience would never realize what OP said." Ikr, schizophrenia is a bitch 😉😂
This might be true in some cases, but even though I still want to eventually marry a beautiful woman, I just don't know if she will actually truly love me. I don't know if women even look at us guys like we look at them. Someone on a different question said that women only care about what a man can do for her. I would never marry a woman that is only emotionally attracted to me. In order for me to marry a woman, she has to be attracted to me in the same way I'm attracted to her, both emotionally and physically.
This isn't the fault of the institution of marriage. It's the fault of
1: Feminism-overrun courts with a very one-sided view of what makes the sexes "equal," that ironically devalues women by insisting they're not "equal" unless they have all the power.
2. Marrying the wrong partner for the wrong reasons.
3. Continuing to make poor choices even after tying the knot.
4. Making poor choices regarding the wedding.
Marriage absolutely CAN benefit a man; but it is a huge responsibility for both parties. Failure on the part of either will turn it toxic for both. However, men feel that toxicity disproportionately, because courts assume the man is always the villain.
I think this should be renamed why everyone should reconsider marriage. But I have heard it's still mostly men who lose in divorce so I can see why you wrote it this way. I agree. Everyone should research the consequences of marriage and divorce before doing them.
But marriage has always been about money lol it's not an evil plot! The number 1 reason people have always gotten and stayed married has been finances, since marriage first began. That was actually why marriage began, to combine each families assets. And now people generally stay married to avoid the severe consequences and debt load from divorce or they can't afford to divorce. But that means they're trapped together until they die... so it can be a shame. Good post!
@davisgirl89 How? After all, especially back then where could everyone have gone? Like circa 1950s I doubt it was acceptable for single men to take care of kids all alone, and where could the women have worked or found childcare too?
What a ridiculous take with no factual basis. I take it that some girl scarred and burned you early in life and you never recovered from it. It's too hard to even consider taking anything you said seriously. A complete waste of forum space.
Lol yes, this dude is going to need serious therapy down the road when he becomes a middle-aged man who can't get a date because he has commitment issues.
@MandyRuth So, back when abortion was illegal and the contraceptive pill didn't exist, and virtually all women refused to have pre-marital, or at least pre-engagement, sex, those women had commitment issues, did they? Did they need therapy for refusing to sacrifice themselves?
My parents have been happily married for 25 years!!! All 4 of my older brothers are married to amazing women. This mytake is bullshit. You are just a frustrated man who is upset with women. Marriage is a beautiful sacred union between two people.
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Yes, you've exposed our true evil plans. I want to marry my boyfriend to take all of his money, not have sex with him, and be a total birch for the rest of our lives... it has nothing to do with the fact that I love him and want to cherish commitment to him for the rest of our lives.
I also find it hilarious how you say "apparently to women being with them for several years is not sufficient evidence of commitment" yet you talk about cheating on your wife later on in life... LOL. the logic of a niave young 20-something amuses me.
"I also find it hilarious how you say "apparently to women being with them for several years is not sufficient evidence of commitment" yet you talk about cheating on your wife later on in life... LOL. the logic of a niave young 20-something amuses me."
I also find it hilarious you like to twist words to suit your agenda.
I said. If you find someone whose better suited outside of cheating (which is a option you can take) that you are screwed. Listing out that it is possible to still have sex with other women while in a marriage isn't advocating anything. it's being grounded in reality that you have the option to do that but consequences come with it such as giving the wife even more incentive to divorce you if she finds out.
". it has nothing to do with the fact that I love him and want to cherish commitment to him for the rest of our lives."
Read point 2 again. If you need him to put a ring to show he is truly committed to you then you are just insecure.
Some of Today's Toms have a Problem down the Path of "D" Day Destruction in Committing to just one woman. Only have eyes on Their "One only Love," and that is what is Between their legs.
They are Not Ready nor Raring to be in a Real Relationship, No matter if they Would marry the Queen herself, It makes no Difference... Happy Go Lucky Habits are Hard to Break.
Good luck and Great question @BubbleBoy69 xx
*Sorry, @bubbleboy, I meant to Say "My Take," my mistake... I seem t be pressing the wrong button lately. lolxx
Marriage is linked to health and economic benefits.
Married individuals tend to have better physicalhealth, psychological well-being, and a lower mortality risk.
Financially, married men tend to earnmore, and married women are less likely to fall into poverty.
Only civilized human marrys, not animals they just hook up. Hook up and break up eventually breaks your hearts.
Totally agree. Good points :-)
@missnic825 thanks though there are many other points worth writable
Yes there are
These bullshit has already been disproved. The earliest form of marriage goes back to the ancient sumers 2300 BC. The purpose of marriage was to force the men to spend his resources for the women and the children (and also the family of the bride). The only benefit for the men has been sex. At all, men cannot benefit from marriage because this institution is not made for them. It is made for women and children.
This was my plan all along... to pistol whip my bitch of a husband, steal all his money and run. Didn't Steve Miller Band write a song about this? 🎶Bobby Sue took the money and run. Go onnnnn take the money and runnnnn🎶
Uh, no,
This is a story about Billy Joe and Bobbie Sue
Two young lovers with nothin' better to do
Than sit around the house, get high, and watch the tube
And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose
They headed down to, ooh, old El Paso
That's where they ran into a great big hassle
Billy Joe shot a man while robbing his castle
Bobbie Sue took the money and run
Billy Mack is a detective down in Texas
You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
He ain't gonna let those two escape justice
He makes his livin' off of the people's taxes
Bobbie Sue, whoa, whoa, she slipped away
Billy Joe caught up to her the very next day
They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They headed down south and they're still running today
Singin' go on take the money and run
Its about an outlaw couple
@Waffles731 😂😂😂 I know I know... I just thought I should play the evil woman part. Maybe American Woman would have been a better choice. I need to sleep on it see what I can come up with 🤔
Lmao dude. So much bitterness in this take.
Honestly, if you ever did get married, I would feel bad for your wife. Being married to someone with that kind of perspective on things would be a nightmare.
This is how a huge portion of males feel about marriage, actually-- even a lot of the ones who get married.
I am just waiting for the mature old wise men to come in here and teach you better :) :) :)
While I am not pro marriage per say, it is the meaning that people put behind it that makes it so bad... Also, you make it sound like it is some horrible thing to do... I dont like this MyTake and Im not evening planning on marrying myself.'
No offence.
it's a very negative way of looking at marriage, I prefer to look at it from the positive side
Just a few things:
when you get a child together in marriage the man is automatically the legal father and when the woman dies it is also better to be married
I also don't believe in marraige in the traditional sense. But it's not a man vs women thing, it's just the concept of marraige is the most ridiculous thing ever. I don't think anyone should get married. Many men play women in marraige too for financial reasons and also visas.
Lol marriage... damn I was dyslexic there 🤕
I like the part where all of these points are based on no concrete evidence and are all just generalizations made by the author. It's like you pulled this out of a generic sitcom or something.
What an awful post.
My parents have been happily married for 31 years. If any of the above applies to you, you've married the wrong person.
I am in my late 40's now. I agree with the OP.
I am happily single. I watched notice others on their third marriage.
I noticed when I dress like I am rich, I pique their interests. I believe women are looking for a meal ticket.
Ok, there are exceptions but the divorce rate is high.
99% of women in the United States are the "wrong person."
Totally agree. My dad got divorced from his previous wife, but he has been with my mom for 26 years now.
And my grandmother and grandfather are now engaged since 66 years.
@Leaflar
Healthy marriage only have 0.0000000000001 chance of ever happening.
@Darkone1 That's totally unrealistic. The only marriages that ends are those who are taken by early 20s persons with no economic stability, with persons that have only known for a couple of years and with not right start at all.
@Giacomanzo No, its true and I was actually pointing to my age group.
@Darkone1 Then yeah, that's true. Waaaaay to young for marriage.
There's no right person to allow to put a gun to my head.
@evenlift yeah I have no idea what you're talking about.
This is just what happens when you marry the wrong person.
And as one of the points point out. It's impossible to know if the other person will change or it working out in the long run.
@Arne123123 That's just relationships, not marriage.
What? People in marriages can't change and people don't divorce?
@Arne123123 That's not what I said. I said that's just relationships not marriage. Meaning that's simply how relationships are, so that's not a reason for not getting married. That would be a "reason" ( and a fairly weak one) to never date a single person ever. That's a relationship issue not a marriage issue.
Difference:
If you fall out of love, people change, you guys end up fighting and hate each other, you find you fancy someone else etc you can have a clean break in a relationship with each of you going your separate ways.
If any of this happens in a marriage, seeing that studies show women date up more often than not the man is penalized in the nasty divorce that follows. Leaving him in financial ruin while the woman gets nice pay day in the breakup.
Why push for marriage when I'm already showing i'm committing and love you by being with you for many years in a relationship without leaving?
That's because he married the wrong woman. If a woman isn't a complete bitch and asshole you can get divorced without her trying to destroy your livelihood.
And you think men should take that risk of a gamble when the relationship was working fine without the marriage tag?
If she is the right woman why does she need marriage when my love/commitment to here should be enough? Why does she need the government to actively take part in our relationship now?
Marriage doesn't change the person, people remain the same. We just choose to be blind to the things we don't like. Marrying a woman is no more of a risk than her being your girlfriend. Who is to say your long term girlfriend isn't going to get sick of you and come back and give you herpes or AIDS or something? Relationships are a risk period. Being afraid of that risk just makes you weak.
"Marriage doesn't change the person, people remain the same. We just choose to be blind to the things we don't like. "
Again people do change as they get older. If we look at what women prioritize in mates in their 20's compared to 30's we see a big contrast. Same with men. You might of met a girl when you were both young in your 20's and what kept you together was the parties, steamy sex and drinking buddies. You may have thought she was great and been with her for 5 years and pop the question and marry her. However, prioritize change in late 20's and beyond. She wants a baby, your not ready yet. She get frustrated and fighting starts and eventually leaves you.
This is just an example.
"Marrying a woman is no more of a risk than her being your girlfriend. Who is to say your long term girlfriend isn't going to get sick of you and come back and give you herpes or AIDS or something? "
And who is to say a married wife wouldn't cheat on you and give you the same thing.
Exactly my point. That these issues are relationship issues and not a marriage one. It's a problem with the relationship not the fact that you're married.
" Relationships are a risk period. Being afraid of that risk just makes you weak."
No it does not it makes you logical because you look at the cost/reward before deciding its worth it. If something has more cons to it than benefits then you aren't going to invest in it.
https://youtu.be/PCpBa4ITEcI
Men look at things based on cost/rewards and they realize that marriage just isn't worth it ~ Helen Smith
Because that's what happens when you marry the wrong person. Just about everything you've said can happen in a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. It's just relationships that are the risk. If you're afraid of this happening in a marriage then you should be afraid of it in a longterm relationship. You should just never date anyone then.
I'm going to give you a peak at someone whose my friend of how being married in a way in now way makes you less likely for your wife to cheat and give you an STD.
He's a rich guy and owns several pizza places. He use to having sex with this girl in her early 20's and eventually they broke up because she wanted marriage and a baby. She got with her boyfriend and even when in relationship she was hitting him on a side and letting him creampie her.
She got pregnant with 3 kids (the first kid might not even be the guy). Needless to say she message him recently to "meet up" but he turned her down because she's not as fresh anymore.
And this guy while being rich is in his 30's and is able to smash 19 yr old girls and young pretty girls. i even met him coming up on an elevator and it was clear he got some kind of STD from eating a girl out. Yet, married women wanted to "meet up" and fuck him. She could easily transfer back that STD to her husband without his knowledge.
So you see a woman in marriage is in no way less likely to cheat than a woman out of marriage. In fact gag had tinder study done a couple months back where it was stated that many married women are on tinder fucking behind their husbands back.
You still aren't getting it. If it's going to happen in a LTR or marriage then it's going to be doomed right but the difference is the man is going to pay a penalty of getting divorce raped.
If it doesn't happen in a LTR then it shouldn't matter if we get married or not because we are happy together and stay together. Marriage does not strength or weaken a relationship.
Because they married the wrong person. Not once did I say anything about being less likely to catch a disease from you spouse. The issue is the RELATIONSHIP. Marriages are also relationships, if their is an issue in the marriage it's because of the RELATIONSHIP. Also, your friend is a scum bag.
All of your reasons are reasons to never be in a relationship not to never get married
No all my reasoning points out why marriage in no way gives you benefits anymore than it does a relationship.
if your relationship is going to survive the test of time it will marriage/or not.
If your relationship is going to fail then the only difference between married/non-married folks is that it screws over the man.
So get a prenup. If you going into a marriage thinking about the divorce then of course it's going to fail. You're afraid of commitment it's as simple as that. A bf/gf relationship is much more convenient because although you're committed for the meantime it's simply a way to allow one foot out of the door.
"So get a prenup."
Prenups aren't a gurrantee. Plenty of judges throw them out once the divorce happens.
"You're afraid of commitment it's as simple as that"
I don't see how not choosing to marry a woman but spending years with her by her side shows you fear commitment.
BF/GF relationship is in where anymore less than a husband/wife. like I pointed out in 2. Women seem to want a safeguard for men to not leave in the form of divorce. If as a woman you are so insecure you fear your man is going to leave you when being your boyfriend then why are you getting married to him as a husband?
Same can be applied to men. if you are so scared of your girl leaving you as a girlfriend then why would you propose to her as a wife?
Your logic is flawed. If you don't want to get married then that's good for you, but if you're marrying for the benefits then you're obviously marrying for the wrong reasons.
Ah, finally got what you mean. Sure it can happen in all relationships, the point with the entire post was why get married when there is no benefit over a committed relationship but way more risks if it doesn't work out. Why would I want to marry my gf? Other then the social pressure and shaming you see an example of from girls here.
@Arne123123 The only risk I can see him emphasizing is about money but who is to say your live in girlfriend isn't going to rob you blind? I don't see it as being worse off than relationships I view it as far better than relationships. If someone can't find the benefits in marriage and see only bad then it's their perspective that is the issue. Also marrying for purely benefits is marrying for all the wrong reasons. The risks he's saying can happen in any kind of relationship. This should just be about staying single your whole life.
It's not only money but i place emphasis. Property often get shared over more towards the ex-wife and women (if children) are involved often get custody of the kids.
These same things can happen to women. My dad has a friend who has to pay alimony to her ex husband because he's "disabled" and he refuses to get a job. He's psycho and abusive and he remains dependent on her so he can always have some link to her life.
She's dealing with this because guess what? She married the wrong person.
@Relentless_Hippie To be fair, how can you possibly know that until you've already married them? People change sometimes after that happens.
Men carefully pick out a ring get on their knees and beg a woman to marry them then turn around when their wives don't cater to them like they are a sick child and then men throw tantrums like "THAT FUCKING BITCH TRICKED ME!! SHE WON'T WAIT ON ME LIKE A SLAVE AND FUCK ME AT THE DROP OF A HAT AHHHHHH!!!"
Well, yes, if you act like a slave, don't be surprised if you get treated like one. Men need to learn self-respect. Men vis-a-vis women are now like black people vis-a-vis white people in the United States before the civil rights movement.
here is some advice for you men. Women want to ride the cock carousel until their baby rabies kick in. Then they want to find a good provider male otherwise know as the "Nice guy"who will get her a house and good genes for her offspring. Then she will get tired of the provider male and the boring domestic life and kick you out. divorce you and use big daddy government to force you to continue to pay for the house, alimony, child support, and since she is frumpy now, she will move in her new fuck boy and he will live in your house, and raise your kids. You are just the lucky bastard who gets to pay for it all.
Actually marriage was benefit MEN in a lot of ways as it benefits women.
Marriage was created so that men who otherwise would have no chance could find a partner.
If it weren't for marriage most men would not get laid, only the "alpha" men would impregnate most of the women. There would be no women left for most the other men. Which is why men tend to be more possessive of their woman and women aren't. Marriage controls the birth rates as well so there wouldn't be millions of 'bastard","fatherless" children walking around, since one man can impregnate hundreds of women while women cannot do that with men.
Firstly, most men do have sex before marriage.
Secondly, now that the law recognizes the concept of 'marital rape', 'get married for sex' is no longer a valid argument.
This is not true at all. Men need very few things to get laid from 98% of women, with the most important being money. Women are also 51% of the population, so if you are saying women would crowd to just the alphas (for hypthetical purposes let's put this number at 10%), then women would willing enter into a submissive form of relationship, because obviously the alpha would have many other women to procreate with. Men tend to be more possessive of women because they realize once they are married, woman can take half of their stuff without any justification. A marriage is the only relationship that allows for retirement and financial planning by one party without actually having to do anything. Single women have to work and bust their butts, but married women essentially win the lotto. I do like what you are saying about alphas, however. I'm very educated, an athlete, and make six figures, so would you be interested in meeting for some alpha male dominance?
the bank was created to keep people's money safe yet ironically today they're being used to actually rip people off via taxes and interest.
"If it weren't for marriage most men would not get laid, only the "alpha" men would impregnate most of the women."
i'm not an alpha, never gotten married yet I still got laid a few times in the past. and yea non alpha dudes who make 6 digits a year will always be an alpha through marriage.
"There would be no women left for most the other men. Which is why men tend to be more possessive of their woman and women aren't"
yea where can i meet these cuckqueens that you're referring to?
"Marriage controls the birth rates as well so there wouldn't be millions of 'bastard","fatherless" children walking around, since one man can impregnate hundreds of women while women cannot do that with men.
someone needs to leave their house or should i say "cave" more often
That's okay lmao no woman is gonna miss out because misogyistst decide to die virgins 😂👍
Well I agree with him and I'm not a virgin, in fact I have no problem attracting the opposite sex if she's in my league. Is that the only argument you got by using a shame tactic against men who spill the truth, he's only explaining the true nature of women.
@Indigo91 not really, he's only explaining the true nature of butthurt misogyinists.
lol whatever feminazi
@Indigo91
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Good one 😂👍
I FUCKING LOVE when women say this. You all assume we are virgins, because if we don't want a stupid relationship we simply never had sex. But it is the fucking opposite. We do have sex, AND ONLY SEX. Guys without lots of experience would never realize what OP said.
@Takyon Thats what I mean these girls seem to forget that the true alpha males are the ones who they are trying to get commitment from but can't because they prefer to be a player and sleep with lots of women... so am guessing their misogynist virgins also that are missing out on a womans pain in ass as Jxpxtxr would put it lol
@Takyon Lol yeah and women with and without lots of experience would never wanna date a guy like that and because you can't handle that fact you pretend it's your "choice" to not date anyone so you don't have to face the reality of being a total loser in life –it's okay, I would probably be like that, too, if nobody wanted me.. ;)
why do you ASSUME my life is like that hahahahaha
@Takyon because you said it yourself "hahahahaha"
when? nice schizophrenia
@Takyon "because if we don't want a stupid relationship we simply never had sex. But it is the fucking opposite. We do have sex, AND ONLY SEX. Guys without lots of experience would never realize what OP said."
Ikr, schizophrenia is a bitch 😉😂
This is SARCASM. Then you are not schizophrenic, you are just dumb.
@Takyon says someone who fails to understand the very definition of sarcasm? Yeah lol try harder
... are you two still at it
yeah sure
i am the one that fails at understanding it
A man not obligated to commit in a government intervened relationship= misogynist virgin? Got it. Ever heard of misandry?
You seem full of it
This might be true in some cases, but even though I still want to eventually marry a beautiful woman, I just don't know if she will actually truly love me. I don't know if women even look at us guys like we look at them. Someone on a different question said that women only care about what a man can do for her. I would never marry a woman that is only emotionally attracted to me. In order for me to marry a woman, she has to be attracted to me in the same way I'm attracted to her, both emotionally and physically.
This isn't the fault of the institution of marriage. It's the fault of
1: Feminism-overrun courts with a very one-sided view of what makes the sexes "equal," that ironically devalues women by insisting they're not "equal" unless they have all the power.
2. Marrying the wrong partner for the wrong reasons.
3. Continuing to make poor choices even after tying the knot.
4. Making poor choices regarding the wedding.
Marriage absolutely CAN benefit a man; but it is a huge responsibility for both parties. Failure on the part of either will turn it toxic for both. However, men feel that toxicity disproportionately, because courts assume the man is always the villain.
I think this should be renamed why everyone should reconsider marriage. But I have heard it's still mostly men who lose in divorce so I can see why you wrote it this way. I agree. Everyone should research the consequences of marriage and divorce before doing them.
But marriage has always been about money lol it's not an evil plot! The number 1 reason people have always gotten and stayed married has been finances, since marriage first began. That was actually why marriage began, to combine each families assets. And now people generally stay married to avoid the severe consequences and debt load from divorce or they can't afford to divorce. But that means they're trapped together until they die... so it can be a shame. Good post!
That is a very big misconception darling. Marriage was first and foremost about the community.
@davisgirl89 How? After all, especially back then where could everyone have gone? Like circa 1950s I doubt it was acceptable for single men to take care of kids all alone, and where could the women have worked or found childcare too?
You are thinking 1800 and 1900, but I am thinking way back. Lets think tribes before men started claiming earth as his own.
@davisgirl89 Oh, I thought you meant modern society.
What a ridiculous take with no factual basis. I take it that some girl scarred and burned you early in life and you never recovered from it. It's too hard to even consider taking anything you said seriously. A complete waste of forum space.
Lol yes, this dude is going to need serious therapy down the road when he becomes a middle-aged man who can't get a date because he has commitment issues.
@MandyRuth why the FUCK would you neet to date when you can have sex so easily these days. Sex is sex.
@MandyRuth So, back when abortion was illegal and the contraceptive pill didn't exist, and virtually all women refused to have pre-marital, or at least pre-engagement, sex, those women had commitment issues, did they? Did they need therapy for refusing to sacrifice themselves?
My parents have been happily married for 25 years!!! All 4 of my older brothers are married to amazing women. This mytake is bullshit. You are just a frustrated man who is upset with women. Marriage is a beautiful sacred union between two people.
I believe I can be happily single for the rest of my life.
@sparkly-crystal thats purely anecdotal. The divorce rate speaks for itself!
@Reflexy some people choose to marry the wrong person.
and some women choose to marry to become rich. Its healthy business in 21 century in US.