@shessoheavy Oh, you misunderstand. I meant you. If there were an asexual gene, it would have been bred out a long, long time ago... because asexuals wouldn't have sex. Not to mention it is wholly unnatural for an animal to lack sexual desire. It's either the result of psychological trauma, physiological illness, or self-defense/rationalization. E. g. "I can't get laid, so I will pretend like I'm not sexually attracted to anyone." There is no asexual *orientation*. If a person lacks sexual attraction, then there is something physically or mentally wrong with them. And just in case you try to bring it up, like "That's what they said about gays" homosexuality is entirely normal and pervasive in the animal world. Lack of a desire to mate is not, unless there is some kind of illness behind it.
So there's my argument. You got anything other than
There are also exceptions for asexuality listed in the DSM. also it has been observed in the animal world, although research is lacking as it is a new frontier:
@shessoheavy The DSM is garbage. Consistently expanding the definitions of "mental illness", as a means to make money with Big Pharma, convincing as many people as possible that they're mentally ill because they get sad sometimes or experience any degree of discomfort.
Like i said. If it's observed in the animal world, it's due to some kind of illness. Depressed animals won't have a sex drive. That's different from an orientation. It even says so in your own link. "Understudied and misunderstood." She's a damn writer. Not a scientist. Some random bitch's personal anecdotes hardly prove anything. And it's obvious that sexuality isn't an orientation. It's an illness. An illness I wouldn't mind having, but an illness nonetheless.
Asexuality is fundamentally antithetical to the purpose of existence. Animals that... would not be interested in breeding... don't exist.
Well you are talking to one. ✊🏻 I realize that it is understudied, but as I said there is no actual research that disproves it, if so post it. I can continue on with research that does support it though.
I do agree with you Big Pharma though, although asexuality is mentioned in the DSM as an exception to the rule as it relates to HSDD, hypo sexual desire disorder. Where someone experiences an lack of libido that they find distressing. As where Asexuals don't experience sexual attraction and don't find that distressing in of itself. So in that case the asexual person would not get prescribed. But ya if big Pharma had their way the whole country would be on prescription drugs.
@shessoheavy Much research these days is seen through the biased, liberal (I am a far leftist) lens of political correctness and tolerance. It's like if you were to find a study that suggested that men were more intelligent than women. It would be ridiculed. The level of vehemence that would meet the authors of such a study would be profound. Lynching threats would not be out of the question. Whereas, were you to find that women are more intelligent than men, praise upon praise would be lavished. I believe the same bias exists within the confines of asexuals. One must always be compassionate and understanding, in this feminists society
You don't need studies to disprove it. It just rationally makes no sense. And the burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. I'll look at the links later
Sure. You might not have a sex drive, but why? There is a reason
Big Pharma would give babies crack-cocaine if it made them a quick buck. In fact, they have done unethical testing on kids.
You do need studies to disprove, if there are studies that prove. That reverses the burden of proof. Maybe it does not make sense to you, but it does to some people. If a straight guy can not be sexually attracted to men, and gay guy can not be sexually attracted to women, they why can't a guy not be sexually attracted to either. It is really not that complicated
@shessoheavy "however, the speculation that there may also be an impaired psychophysiological sexual arousal response has never been tested." E. g. what i have been saying. I am not claiming there aren't people who experience no sexual desire. I'm claiming that the reason is due to an impaired psychophysiplogical response, not a natural orientation like homosexuality or bisexuality or heterosexuality. So, that'll reverse the burden of proof once more.
As for the second link, of course you would link a hardcore feminist findings. Again. The bias I spoke of. I don't have time to pick all that apart, though.
Quoting Dr. House now huh. Lol, that episode was a joke. Is that your proof, lol. Even the writers admitted that the only reason he "disproved" asexuality in the episode was because "it would not fit house's character the other way around". The "asexual" guy in the show had problems with his libido, which is not asexuality anyway.
We don't find people sexy, with that said I can still fill a sperm bank. You are confusing sexual desire and sexual attraction; a lack of experiencing sexual attraction is what defines asexuality. So, what exactly are you saying is wrong with me. I can get it up, I can fire it off. I don't think about sex, and if and when I try to and can't fire it off. I don't find this problematic either. I am just asexual, and that is all there is to it. Not that I need scientific proof to be secure in myself, but anyone who thinks that it is invalid and refuses accept it on a scientific basis while not being able to provide any proof is blowing smoke out of their ass
And you continually miss that I'm not claiming there aren't people who *don't* have sexual attraction. Only that it isn't a natural orientation and is the result. And I can't tell you how you're deluding yourself or what disease you have or how you're otherwise fucked up. Only you know that. Or, only extensive testing would find out.
I know what you are saying, I am saying that you are wrong and you have no basis for your opinion that is not based on opinion. In the real world unlike in house, asexuality is not a problem and thus does not have a solution. Asexual people that attempt to "cure" themselves in the medical and psychological fields are unsuccessful. Your opinions on the matter are based on just that - opinions, whether they are your own, another's, or fictional characters'. My opinion on the matter is based on research Albeit limited, and my own life experience. Now if you have anything other than another's opinion on the matter or silly gifs then let's hear it. Otherwise let's move on; I can go about being a happy healthy asexual considering donating sperm, and you can go about believing your irrelevant and baseless opinions. meanwhile, the asexual movement and community will continue to grow until all have heard of us. Like it or not, we are going nowhere. 😜
Your affirnations are only because of MONEY you don't have and your greedy and selfish to a point of punishing your self and limiting yourself only because of MONEY... And you have NO RESPECT for other people and this is why you developed this question !!
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enjoy a lonely life then. You won't get to experience what most people would consider a good life.
I am practically the same
Me neither, also ace aro
Asexuality/aromantic, self-defense mechanism.
So is ignorance
@shessoheavy I agree.
Then, you do realize that you are being ignorant right?
@shessoheavy Oh, you misunderstand. I meant you. If there were an asexual gene, it would have been bred out a long, long time ago... because asexuals wouldn't have sex. Not to mention it is wholly unnatural for an animal to lack sexual desire. It's either the result of psychological trauma, physiological illness, or self-defense/rationalization. E. g. "I can't get laid, so I will pretend like I'm not sexually attracted to anyone." There is no asexual *orientation*. If a person lacks sexual attraction, then there is something physically or mentally wrong with them. And just in case you try to bring it up, like "That's what they said about gays" homosexuality is entirely normal and pervasive in the animal world. Lack of a desire to mate is not, unless there is some kind of illness behind it.
So there's my argument. You got anything other than
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BHqgHFcmAOc
Like I said, do your research, you are incorrect.
news.stanford.edu/.../
There are also exceptions for asexuality listed in the DSM. also it has been observed in the animal world, although research is lacking as it is a new frontier:
https://m.biolreprod.org/content/67/1/263.full
The biggest thing to notice is that there is no research (not opinion pieces) that disproves it, if you have something well 👂
I do like the South Park reference though
@shessoheavy The DSM is garbage. Consistently expanding the definitions of "mental illness", as a means to make money with Big Pharma, convincing as many people as possible that they're mentally ill because they get sad sometimes or experience any degree of discomfort.
Like i said. If it's observed in the animal world, it's due to some kind of illness. Depressed animals won't have a sex drive. That's different from an orientation. It even says so in your own link. "Understudied and misunderstood." She's a damn writer. Not a scientist. Some random bitch's personal anecdotes hardly prove anything. And it's obvious that sexuality isn't an orientation. It's an illness. An illness I wouldn't mind having, but an illness nonetheless.
Asexuality is fundamentally antithetical to the purpose of existence. Animals that... would not be interested in breeding... don't exist.
Well you are talking to one. ✊🏻
I realize that it is understudied, but as I said there is no actual research that disproves it, if so post it. I can continue on with research that does support it though.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20857185/
www.kristinagupta.com/.../
https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781442201019#
I do agree with you Big Pharma though, although asexuality is mentioned in the DSM as an exception to the rule as it relates to HSDD, hypo sexual desire disorder. Where someone experiences an lack of libido that they find distressing. As where Asexuals don't experience sexual attraction and don't find that distressing in of itself. So in that case the asexual person would not get prescribed. But ya if big Pharma had their way the whole country would be on prescription drugs.
@shessoheavy Much research these days is seen through the biased, liberal (I am a far leftist) lens of political correctness and tolerance. It's like if you were to find a study that suggested that men were more intelligent than women. It would be ridiculed. The level of vehemence that would meet the authors of such a study would be profound. Lynching threats would not be out of the question. Whereas, were you to find that women are more intelligent than men, praise upon praise would be lavished. I believe the same bias exists within the confines of asexuals. One must always be compassionate and understanding, in this feminists society
You don't need studies to disprove it. It just rationally makes no sense. And the burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. I'll look at the links later
Sure. You might not have a sex drive, but why? There is a reason
Big Pharma would give babies crack-cocaine if it made them a quick buck. In fact, they have done unethical testing on kids.
You do need studies to disprove, if there are studies that prove. That reverses the burden of proof. Maybe it does not make sense to you, but it does to some people. If a straight guy can not be sexually attracted to men, and gay guy can not be sexually attracted to women, they why can't a guy not be sexually attracted to either. It is really not that complicated
@shessoheavy "however, the speculation that there may also be an impaired psychophysiological sexual arousal response has never been tested." E. g. what i have been saying. I am not claiming there aren't people who experience no sexual desire. I'm claiming that the reason is due to an impaired psychophysiplogical response, not a natural orientation like homosexuality or bisexuality or heterosexuality. So, that'll reverse the burden of proof once more.
As for the second link, of course you would link a hardcore feminist findings. Again. The bias I spoke of. I don't have time to pick all that apart, though.
@shessoheavy The only people who don't *want* sex are sick, dead, or lying.
Quoting Dr. House now huh. Lol, that episode was a joke. Is that your proof, lol. Even the writers admitted that the only reason he "disproved" asexuality in the episode was because "it would not fit house's character the other way around". The "asexual" guy in the show had problems with his libido, which is not asexuality anyway.
We don't find people sexy, with that said I can still fill a sperm bank. You are confusing sexual desire and sexual attraction; a lack of experiencing sexual attraction is what defines asexuality. So, what exactly are you saying is wrong with me. I can get it up, I can fire it off. I don't think about sex, and if and when I try to and can't fire it off. I don't find this problematic either. I am just asexual, and that is all there is to it. Not that I need scientific proof to be secure in myself, but anyone who thinks that it is invalid and refuses accept it on a scientific basis while not being able to provide any proof is blowing smoke out of their ass
@shessoheavy Hey bro. Fictional or not, House is boss. You didn't see me quoting him *as a source.* But the statement is correct. media.giphy.com/media/IFpVKDqOo84F2/giphy.gif
And you continually miss that I'm not claiming there aren't people who *don't* have sexual attraction. Only that it isn't a natural orientation and is the result. And I can't tell you how you're deluding yourself or what disease you have or how you're otherwise fucked up. Only you know that. Or, only extensive testing would find out.
So, you're telling me this does nothing for you?
Also this, because I feel like double-giffing media.giphy.com/media/16StbF7VCSw6Y/giphy.gif
Oh, dammit. I forgot to put in some sexy thing. Oh well. I think we both can assume you have seen sexy things before.
I know what you are saying, I am saying that you are wrong and you have no basis for your opinion that is not based on opinion. In the real world unlike in house, asexuality is not a problem and thus does not have a solution. Asexual people that attempt to "cure" themselves in the medical and psychological fields are unsuccessful. Your opinions on the matter are based on just that - opinions, whether they are your own, another's, or fictional characters'. My opinion on the matter is based on research Albeit limited, and my own life experience. Now if you have anything other than another's opinion on the matter or silly gifs then let's hear it. Otherwise let's move on; I can go about being a happy healthy asexual considering donating sperm, and you can go about believing your irrelevant and baseless opinions. meanwhile, the asexual movement and community will continue to grow until all have heard of us. Like it or not, we are going nowhere. 😜
@shessoheavy Well, it seems we have reached the inevitable impasse. Good convo. Of course. I never claimed to have empirical proof one way or another.
Honey I believe you have issues
thanks for sharing ur thoughts
Sounds like a win all around.
so you are selfish lol
Doggs can eat chocolate, my dog did.
I'm glad you're following Gods word tho !!!
Your affirnations are only because of MONEY you don't have and your greedy and selfish to a point of punishing your self and limiting yourself only because of MONEY... And you have NO RESPECT for other people and this is why you developed this question !!
And you hate men so much that all this is accredited towards the whole idea behind your confession of sexism.
Wow, some women out there... scare me
Actually, did you know it's cheaper, to be married
Depending on where you live.
No, it's cheaper to marry in general
Good luck with that.
do us a favor and please dont!!
good reaosons