This is what the Bible says but religion or not, should she submit and obey?
Should a wife submit to and obey her husband?
I believe that yes, a woman should respect and honor her husband. But the verses relating to how a woman should act are often misused by husbands who do none of the things they're supposed to be doing, and using it out of context as reason to keep her (and often the kids) down. What many refuse to learn or see, even when pointed out, is that there are plenty of verses on how a husband who is a follower of Jesus is supposed to treat his wife and children.
As we are referring to the wife / husband dynamic, here are a few verses. I think that in an idealized "Christian" home, that, yes, there should be a dynamic of a wife trusting her husband, going with him when he's trying to make the best decisions for the family. BUT - this also comes with the man leading the household, loving and protecting his family, and doing what is wise for them. I don't believe this also gives freedom from (loving) arguments & disagreements. She has a right to voice her opinion.
I see it constantly where people are just in general very disrespectful to their mates, so an idea of a wife respecting a decision (and a man respecting and loving his wife AND being a leader of sorts, that the concept is pretty foreign, and some would yell that it's sexist.
Of course, respecting, honoring and obeying have different contexts in different cultures, and generations.
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Colossians 3:19 ESV
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
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1 Peter 3:7 ESV
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.
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Ephesians 5:33 ESV
However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
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Genesis 2:24 ESV
Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. Guys - don't be a mamas boy if mama is dead wrong on something.
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Philippians 2:4 ESV
Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.
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Ephesians 5:21 ESV
Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
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Hope this gives you some food for thought.
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That would be nice. The husband shouldn't abuse it but, I think it would save a lot of marriages or even relationship if a man felt like the man in a relationship.
As a theist who is loosely Christian and has read the entire Bible, as well as other religious texts from various faiths.
I believe more in the spirit of the Bible, as a collection of anecdotes, history and indirect interpretations of interpretations. A lot of the gender instructions come from Paul, who was not so much in favor of marriage at all when it could be avoided.
I don't believe in the infallibility of Church personalities, though this is what we're "supposed" to believe. But there have been too many obvious examples that this is not true.
Anyway, I believe the basic spirit of the New Testament is to love one another, forgive, be fair and kind, be moderate and humble, seek enlightenment over riches or fame, share, perform your work without grumbling, have faith in God and the savior Jesus Christ (himself an icon of these virtues).
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According to Islam, yes the husband is supposed to be the head of the household (not dictator!) and he is supposed to be loving, caring and respectful towards his wife and children. So it is only fair that he is respected back and has a final say. But even in that he is supposed to consult and cooperate with his wife!
"And those who have responded to their lord and established prayer and whose affair is [determined by] consultation among themselves, and from what We have provided them, they spend." Holy Quran 42:38.
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No. I'm fine being the one handling the bills and decisions and everything else. I'm a control freak that way though and I'm the one that controls the money and where it goes. He just brings it in and hands it over. That's the way it was when I was married. He was more than fine with letting me run the household.
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I think those types of statements in the Bible must be understood in the context of the culture that existed when the Bible was written. Most Christians today do not expect a wife to be subservient. I consider myself to be a Christian and I want a wife who is an equal partner.
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let me guess, the old testament? Leviticus? Or deuteronomy?
It also say we're not supposed to mix different kinds of fabric.
- leviticus 19.19
And that phsics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned. That means all scienists
- levitius 20.27
and that we're not allowed to cut our hair or shave
-leviticus 19.27
and that anyone cursing (at) their mother or father is to be killed
-leviticus 20.9
and that anyone cursing or blaspheming god is to be stoned by society
-leviticus 24.14-16
and anyone suggesting converting or leaving christianity is to be killed
- Deuteronomy 13:6-10
and that christians are to kill everyone (including the animals) in towns worshiping different religions
-Deuteronomy 13:12-15
and that you're to kill anyone with a different religion
-Deuteronomy 17:2-7
and that we're not supposed to be fat
-leviticus 3.17
you know what? just read more or less everything leviticus wrote!
And just for the hell of it, one last funny quote;
"She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." -Ezekiel 23.20
Yep, that's actually a bible quote. Look it up if you don't believe me -
Wash: You and Zoe have been in plenty of situations like this before, right?
Mal: Many a' time.
Wash: Many a' time, you and Zoe.
Mal: At least we know who it was took us-
Wash: Zoe and you. Together, in a tricky...[beat] Mal, she's my WIFE!
Mal: Huh?
Wash: What gives you the right to put her in a dangerous situation like this?
Mal: I didn't!
Wash: You did!
Mal: She ain't here, Wash!
Wash: No, but she would've been!
Mal: Okay...
Wash: I mean, I'm the one that she swore to love, honor, and obey!
Mal: Listen, if— [surprised] She swore to obey?
Wash: Well, no... not— [beat] But that's just my point! You, she obeys! She obeys you. There's obeying going on right under my nose!
Mal: Look, Zoe and I have a history— she trusts me.
Wash: What's that supposed to mean?
Mal: Don't mean a thing, but you're making out like she blindly follows my every word; that ain't true.
Wash: Sure it is.
Mal: Not so. There's plenty orders of mine that she didn't obey.
Wash: Name one!
Mal: She married YOU! -
Yes. It's just the way it should be. Let him feel like a man. That doesn't mean you have to listen to everything he says, but that does mean you should have a certain respect for your husband. Especially women who want to be stay at home moms while he is at work.
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Well most girls love being dominated and love to submit and be used by there man.
They like to be degraded , disrespected and made to do some real submissive things all in enjoyment behind closed doors.
They just don't want or like to be disrespected in public. Any other times it's what they like.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think so.
" bring me another beer bitch "
" yes sir right away "
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Keep in mind, in the Bible it ALSO says that the man should treat the woman as Christ treated the church. So, as the woman submits, the man (in agreement) should put her needs first...
That's the purpose of submission: cooperation and humility, not control and power. -
No, of course not. That statement in the bible is outdated nonsense. It's one of the things that while the Catholic belief evolves, should disappear. No discrimination based on gender. Also the prohibition for ladies to become priest should disappear. That rule as well does not belong in 2015!
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Actually, some degree of submission and obedience is required of both husband and wife within a marriage.
If the Bible tells women to submit, it also tells men to love their wives which would mean never abusing or taking advantage of her obedience to him. -
you have to make sure you're not taking it out of context it means a wife should respect her husband but its not saying that he is controlling or anything like that she respects him he respects her they both love each other and he is the man in the relationship, he takes the lead but that doesn't mean he is a sexist
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a man shall leave his mother
And a woman leave her home
And they shall travel on to where the two shall be as one
As it was in the begining
It is now until the end
Woman draws her life from man
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Yes, but the bible also says for a man to care for his wife and tend to her needs, its not a one way street like most people misunderstand, a woman should tend to the husband and as the husband is head of the house hold he should tend to his wife's needs and care for his children, so it goes both ways
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I think there's a verse in Corinthians something to the effect of both Man and Woman are equal in the Lord.
Either way, I think Men and Women should be equal in a relationship. No one is better or less than the other, both are lucky to have each other. -
The bible says all kinds of fucked up shit. If half the stuff I read was true I would be a millionaire with a 10 foot penis by now judging by all the spam mail I get.
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Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property. So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them."
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You only "submit" to God. As for husband, she should respect every REASONABLE and humane demand of her husband. But if she feels he is being unreasonable, she has every right to get out of the relationship.
BTW: I am not quoting the Bible. I don't follow the Bible. -
I think all relationships are differing. I am not the submissive type most the time. So if a guy tries to boss me around I will not let him. My relationship is pretty equal. However in the bedroom we switch dominance.
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Yes, if she wants to submit and obey her husband out of her own free will then she can do that. It's her personal choice.
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Hell no! I love when a woman challenges me in the relationship. I love when there's compromise and I love when there's a deep bond of trust and communication.
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If that's what you want for your marriage, then all the power to you. That's now what I want for me, though.
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If the man is trustworthy in a decision-making role, I say yes.
The issue is that most men these days, aren't deserving or trustworthy to be that primary decision maker and leader in the relationship dynamic!
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