Changing your beliefs to "just fit in"

[Anonymous]

Well the entire internet is splashed with the rainbow after yesterday's supreme court decision. Truth be told I never supported it BUT I knew it was coming. I always supported civil unions between any gender sets but I felt like marriage was something quite different entirely. I felt that it was something only churches and faith institutions should manage. Not the government.

I'm not particulary upset about gay marriage legalization however I'm more terrified about how so many people flip flopped their beliefs "just to fit in". If you were always about gay rights....fine I get it. I have multiple friends and family members who were vehemently opposed to this 10 years ago. Even one of my most homophobic friends colored his facebook profile with a rainbow colors yesterday. What happened to these people? Most of you will argue that "oh...they are just enlightened now and got with the times...". Really? Did all these people devote themselves to gay culture, history & politics in the past few years? Did every one of them have close gay friends (some do, but most don't)? Or maybe these people took up the rainbow flag because "oh...look around...it's cool now....I better fit in". Or maybe some of these people didn't want to be ostracized/bullied if they disagree? If it's the last point...that scares me.

I'm just shocked and amazed that 3% of the population can wield so much power over the masses. What else can people so quickly change their opinions on if they get bombarded by it in the media & pop culture? Anyway I expect to get some hate from this take. Go ahead and blast away at me with the "bigot" and "homophobe" labels all you want. No one will stop you...it's cool now. Truth is I am a legitimate nice guy...however I will not change my values and beliefs "just to fit in" with the crowd. I'm sure that offends you, but I stand my ground.

[PiuBelloAmante]

I agree with you, and i always stand up for what i believe in
i still dont support homosexuality, and i never will
people say i am closed minded, but in reality what they fail to realize is that what they call "open mindedness" isn't necessarily a good thing, because many "open minded" people lack the ability to discriminate right from wrong

a bit of a rant, but i have been getting a lot of shit from my friends/family for not supporting homosexuality

[myTake Owner]

obama 2008 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJhQBZ1La0w Flip flop all star.

[SilenRose]

Yeah I noticed a lot of that now. It's about fitting in or being cool but more so being ostracized/bullied if they disagree. Any celebrity who disagreed with Bruce Jenner's change into Caitlyn Jenner was attacked on social media and ended up having to apologize.

[myTake Owner]

I'm glad there are some young ladies out there who can think for themselves. With all due respect I find young women to be the most impressionable when it comes to media brainwashing.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

im fine with gay people. i dont hate them and i dont love them because i dont personally know EVERY gay person out there. it pisses me off how people say "omg i love gay people!" how could you love gay people when you dont even know each and every one of them? or how could you hate them? you dont have to agree with their choices in life but you do need to respect them or at least leave them alone. good take.

[myTake Owner]

the thing is it's not enough to respectfully disagree with their choice or even silently disagree (liberals are putting people on the spot) nowadays. Gays want more and more and more...

[Bonnie12I27I12]

sadly yes. i have noticed that. i mean now they wanna change the flag? i dont understand. are straight people nonexistent now? we're still a part of this country. a huge part actually. the LGBT community doesn't represent us. it really does piss me off how they want more and more. we all have equal rights now so why ask for more?

[myTake Owner]

because greed it human nature. It doesn't matter if you are a man, woman, minority, gay, etc... nobody is ever satisfied. I hate to compare to other minority groups... but seriously are black people any more "satisfied" today then they were 50 years ago... even when we have a black president? Are feminist any more satisfied today when are gain unprecedented historical freedoms and privileges? Just because your race, sex or orientation was oppressed at some point doesn't give you make you beyond reproach.

[myTake Owner]

made some typos there. "greed is human nature" and "Are feminist any more satisfied when women are gaining"

[Bonnie12I27I12]

i totally agree with you. i also hate how people have to be put down for others to be "equal". for example now white women are ugly and white people are terrible yet blacks are beautiful and amazing. im not saying that blacks are ugly or bad but seriously? im white and i never did anything wrong.

[myTake Owner]

you can't fight fire with fire. Fortunately there are some minorities, women (including you), LGBT people out there understand this approach is only a short term gain and is ultimately leads to self destruction. However I believe what goes around comes around. Unfortunately I happen to be alive in this time of reverse oppression.

[Zamac]

People are majorly "sheep" who will follow the others not even knowing why at times, just to fit in, as you said. The advertising industry knows it well.

Pull the correct strings, put some celebrities and leaders to publicy endorse something and spread the word it is the new coolest thing around and you'll have the crowds of sheep following them. It works for anything.

[Figleaf]

One point. The only two things needed for a marriage to be legal in most free countries are a license and some one to pronounce it. It doesn't matter if the Pope presides over a wedding in St. Patrick's Cathedral before 500 people, in the eyes of the law a gay marriage has just as much legitimacy.

[myTake Owner]

so if a gay couple demands to married in a christian church that refuse the ceremony... are they in a position to sue them (when they can just go somewhere else)?

[ManaX]

There are many psychological articles researching how the minority can influence the majority.

[Anonymous]

People don't change their belief's to fit in, they either change their belief for a different reason and it happens to be that they now fit in better, or they just say it's different to fit in, but privately don't agree with the masses.

[Noxifer626]

I'm sure the nazis thought they were pretty nice guys themselves.
You see, subjectivity loses its value when you use it to harm people.

[myTake Owner]

not following your point. Please explain

[Noxifer626]

"Truth is I am a legitimate nice guy"
You said that. For your information, you are not a nice guy. If you are willing to deny 2 people happyness for no good reason, you are not a nice guy.

[myTake Owner]

You missed the point of my post and you need to read your history books kid. I specifically stated that following:

I'm not particularly upset about gay marriage legalization however I'm more terrified about how so many people flip flopped their beliefs "just to fit in".

Societal brainwashing is what caused the rise of the third Reich and nazi germany by the way. Hitler was elected with a free election. In reality YOU are more of a brainwashed Nazi than I am. You have allowed biased politics, media & hollywood mold your opinions. But why should I waste time arguing with you. Your 15... you know it all already.

[Noxifer626]

So what?
In your opinion ¿should those people still be raging homophobes?
¿Should bigotry be acclaimed, worshipped and accepted?
¡No! ¡Hate and purposeless discrimination should be persecuted, shunned and punished as the abominable crime it is!

[Noxifer626]

*they are

[myTake Owner]

the sorry part is you a perfect politically correct representation of the masses... unable to read between the lines of the real message I was trying to make (which had nothing to do with homophobia). In a way your outbursts are proving my point.. sigh.

[Noxifer626]

You are saying those homophobes should still be homophobes.

[skeptic007]

you're 15 shut the fuck up

[Noxifer626]

You're 24, shut the fuck up!

[myTake Owner]

yeah yeah... fuck you I'm right and your wrong... I'm going to lose my temper like a 5 year old kid, blast you progressive "hush" words (i. e. "nazi", "bigot", "homophobe") when I can't win an argument rationally. Noxifer626 you are going a all star poster boy liberal when you grow up. Keep it up, good for you.