After mourning for the loss of life from the Paris tragedy, my main worry was the extremist reaction.
Highlighting this was the media coverage, with it portraying the bane of terrorism in the age all while undermining its graphic nature with its biased and selective depicting of it. Muslim involvement as part of ISIS striking at the heart of Western civilisation the main premise drumming up hysterical reactions in individuals near and far.
Little attempt was made to add context by clearly stating that most ISIS activity with associated deaths has occurred in Muslim nations. One in Beirut, Lebanon happening a day before the Paris tragedy receiving scant coverage. The truth of ISIS from a Muslim viewpoint is it of little appeal and relevance to modern Islam with it viewed as a Wahhabist Saudi Arabian product with a stone age mentality.
The more insidious omission is the origins of ISIS.
It is an offshoot of Al Qaeda, who were fostered by Western nations firstly as a tool in Afghanistan against Russia, then again in Syria against Assad. Changing its name to ISIS in 2010 as a result of American actions in Iraq. Most in this age associate Al Qaeda with Osama Bin Laden, known in the West as the 'axis of evil' after his part in the heartbreaking 9/11 attacks.
Back in the late 1970's, 80's and 90's the same Bin Laden was seen as a principled freedom fighter and adopted as a darling of the White House. Quite literally breastfed through arms and financial backing. The embarrassing aspect of this is many of the Syrian rebels in this age known as 'ISIS thugs' are brandishing the same American supplied M16 assault rifles.
Where is the reporting of these facts Media?
The imbalanced reporting taps into the ignorance of many while igniting further fears allowing the insidious agendas of power brokers with little or no vigilance from the populous.
The greater concern with the perpetuating of the threat of Muslims and ISIS is the hysterical Islamophobia it fosters. The more people, who either directly or indirectly pour vilification upon moderate, modernist Islam, the more they are unwittingly doing the work ISIS wish to accomplish.
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And what exactly do you hope to accomplish by posting this? it's no secret we armed people in the middle east back then because we were trying to stop Russia from expanding its communists influence without actually engaging them and starting a new world and possibly nuclear war. We had been fighting proxy wars with them for decades after WWII, they'd arm one side and we'd arm one side, we'd send a couple units here and they'd send a couple there and so on.
Also the simple answer to your question is because the true unbiased media died a long time ago, there are no real reporters or media stations anymore anywhere, of any nationalities they are either corrupt, or greedy. little more then media prostitutes really.
my response to you is you are informed, and objective, many are not
history always repeats despite the lessons afforded. this situation reminds me of the mid 30's when a splinter group was made populous to the masses through mistruths perpetrated- the nazi party.
if, the Islamophobia is fostered and gets hysterical- it points people to find solace in the wrong people
Thank you for the mature response and I try to be informed, educated and overall unbiased and objective towards these kinds of things. An uninformed/ignorant and uneducated voter or citizen is in my opinion a threat to their country and to those around them.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." (George Santayana)
I've got news for Mr. Santayana: we're doomed to repeat the past no matter what. That's what it is to be alive.”
― Kurt Vonnegut
While both of those are more or less true and false by remembering the past and learning from the mistakes of our ancestors and ancients we can better prepare ourselves for when these mistakes will be made again by the ignorant.
And I agree we shouldn't let the Islamophobia become to great, but at the same time what makes ISIS so dangerous is that within a sea of innocents lies a lot of dangerous people and they all follow the same religion wear the same clothes, have the same customs it's incredibly hard tell the ISIS members from the innocent ones. It's safer to keep them at arms length then to just let them come in, in droves.
If the attack on Paris taught us anything it's that we shouldn't make the same mistakes they did, they were lenient, their security was lax, they let millions of them in, and it came to the point were people were and are afraid to even go into full Muslim communities. And then when the attacks came they didn't know from were or who was doing it, they had no way of knowing, and people died because of it.
Also the Muslims say they are against them but yet I have yet to see any Muslim groups or organizations or even governments try to even attempt to help in the fight against them.
It is a worrying time for Muslims/ISIS will be used as pawns in a bigger game. The people doing this will use the fear of the masses to perpetuate their agendas but the pay off might be greater concerns and tragedies
The only plus side to this is that with every attack more nations and groups will unite against them, I just wonder how many people will have to die before we bury them for good.
The Russians have a saying, you poke and prod with bayonets, when you find mush you push when you find steel you stop, we need a united wall of steel against ISIS.
You need to be clear in separating ISIS from Muslims, the big issue here is nutjobs like Trump are lumping all. Few take him seriously but there are enough that do, and this is worrying.
For they will target the innocent for the crimes of the few nutjobs
That's the problem though you can't tell who's who until it's to late, which is one of the reasons why I am for keeping the Syrians out of the states. It's to dangerous to let them all in and we don't have the resources to take care of them all. Obama is trying to do on purpose what France did by accident it's a mistake to be sending all these Muslims in droves to all these countries, there are plenty of safe zones and Muslim friendly areas in the middle east we can send them. Where there is no risk to any nations due to terrorist cells hiding with the innocent Muslims and they can stay safe. Not to mention is causes considerable strain on the economies on the countries and makes it harder to combat ISIS. Just a a week or two ago they caught a terrorist cell trying to get out of Europe and into the USA I mean I can't be the only one seeing all the mistakes everyone is making.
We have different perspectives, but I actually see the reaction to ISIS as more of a threat to safety than ISIS
I see both of them as pretty equal threats in different ways though, but yeah different perspectives I think we can both agree that one way or another it needs to stop.
O and in case you didn't know ISIS actually has enough manpower to take on your current active military, about 50,000 loyal soldiers which is around how many active soldiers you have, so don't underestimate them, they get more dangerous everyday, be ever vigilant of both external (ISIS) and internal (Islamphobia) threats.
They will get more dangerous if 'hicks' target Muslims and give them real reason to hate
Even here, violence has already started
I agree there shouldn't be unnecessary violence ( and we're not hicks thank you ), but we also can't reason with them sadly, the French didn't do anything to them and look what happened to them, and what happened in Australia? I haven't heard of any terrorist attacks there lately.
And all I'm saying is just be careful you never know if the friendly chap you meet today, will be trying to kill you tomorrow, I'm not saying hate them or anything just be weary we don't need anymore people dying for the same reasons in Paris.
By 'hicks', referring to rednecks here. the violence here is between anti and pro Muslim groups in the wake of paris facilitated by irresponsible reporting.
O my apologies then I'm used to hicks being used as derogatory word used to describe most of us Americans -_-.
Oih you know they say the root of all evil is money, but I beginning to think it's the media now a days, they seem to be behind most of the problems information wise. Well I hope the violence dies down and it gets sorted out, Australia is a nice place a bit expensive though I'd hate to see it get ravaged by violence, plus I have a friend down there and I'd hate for anything to happen to her.
On to happy thoughts, I saw on your page you want to be a writer, how's that coming along?
It is just a dream, you need to be either very good, or different
As for here, I think it will get very bad for the Media is all about profit and pressing agendas to get those profits. Meaning they will beat the anti muslim/ISIS fear campaign and violence will ensue
You should pursue it, or try your hand at poetry, all you need is a good writers and poets, to help you along the way, I started out just like you and now I can write pretty good. Besides some of our greatest inventions were only dreams. Thomas Edison was always refereed to as a slow (retarded) person, failed school so they put him to work and he got fired from every job he ever had, all he knew till he was around 20-21 years old was failure, he tried and failed 1,093 times to create the light bulb he never once let that stop him, and after all his failures he said I have not failed 1,093 times. I have
successfully discovered 1,093 ways to NOT make a light bulb. So keep at it, life, goals, relationships they are all like a garden, you have to go through a lot of nasty weeds before you can cultivate a flower, and once you get that flower it takes a lot of work to keep it beautiful, so keep at it.
Well I hope not, have faith though, things might get better, I do know what you mean though most of our media is like that to, there are a few decent stations though.
I think this is the beginning and it will get very bad
As for writing, have boxes of poetry and writing, but never got a break. It is why i like the takes on here because you get comments on them
Well I guess we shall see the future is uncertain after all, anything could happen.
Here try this place, if you really do want to get your work out there, it's a good place, a lot of good writers and poets there, they host contests as well as contests for getting pieces in books and you can even publish your own on there and they will sell it on websites like Amazon. If you really do want to get your work out there, recommend it, and you can post erotica on there and anything from stories, poems and even columns, judging from your earlier question it seems like you don't have much to do anyway so *shrugs* If you do decide to check it out give me your page, and I'll check out your work and help get it out there, from one writer/poet to another.
https://allpoetry.com/poems
thanks for the link ill check it out :)
Anytime :) and let me know what you think of the site.
as an aside, do you think the new star Wars will be a classic like the originals or a major disappointment like the recent three :(
Your a star wars fan to? awesome, and hmm I'm not sure I know for sure it will have action because Spielberg is directing it and he mostly does action movies. But I am not sure main issue is whether it will have the story because star wars is a space opera it's all about the story, mystery you know that feeling when you first saw it. And a good story is something Spielberg kind of lacks in so we'll see, and I was a major fan of the EU ( Extended Universe ) and that is were most of the story, information and lore came from, kind of angry Disney through all that away. But Lucas is consulting on it so we'll see it could go either way one thing is for sure though it will be one of the best selling movies of the year.
I did hear that they will be making several spin off movies though, like Ewan McGregor playing Kenobi after revenge of the Sith, but before a new hope, so that will be interesting, and I think one about Bobo Fett and a few others as well.
Personally I think Ewan McGregor was the best thing in the last 3 movies he played Kenobi just so well he just clicked with the character. Kind of cool but his Uncle was actually in one of the originals and oddly enough he looks a lot like a younger Alec Guinness, if you look at their transition in age you could easily imagine them being the same person.
I saw the first three at the cinema and they are timeless classics but the next three were complete dross and lost the compelling plot lines and character development
Hopefully this one is redemption
I agree, completely and indeed we shall see.
The Empire Strikes Back was arguably the best ever sequeal with one of cinemas timeless lines
princess Leia to Han Solo- 'I love you'
Han Solo- 'I know'- just as he gets seals in carbonite :P
I agree it was really good, and it left it at the cliff hanger of now they've confessed their love but nobody knows what will happen to Han, it really made you want to see what was going to happen next. And then that duel between Luke and Vader, showing how Vader had gone from being incredibly arrogant in his fighting style from Revenge of the Sith, best duel in the series by the way. To his much calmer, and more cautious approach. And how is blade work had changed from fast paced and acrobatic to a much more simpler style utilizing is superior cybernetic strength, his hybrid style was defiantly effective a mix of Soresu, Ataru, Niman, Juyo, Shi Cho, Makashi and of course his specialty Djem So/Shien was quite good and he utilized the Sith technique of fear when he sent all those boxes towards Luke was good, and of course that final moment, when he revealed he was his father, excellent. It was indeed a very good movie.
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