I'm in the Army and personally I don't mind women being in the military however I find that they are generally treated better than males. They get paid more money than us (for clothing allowance) even though we are forced to shave and cut our hair (and they aren't). We should get paid extra clothing allowance for shaving cream and hair cuts. I also find it ridiculous how I have to do twice as many pushups than a female just to pass my PT test and run 3 whole minutes faster. I have yet to meet one female who ever had the slightest amount of trouble doing 19 pushups in 2 whole minutes. I've literally ran my PT test and overlapped a female who would walk half of each lap and I failed while she passed. Also I find that people expect more out of males in general, if there is a bunch of heavy equipment that needs to be moved, the males will be handpicked to move it while the females sit on their asses. People are generally afraid to stand up to females who give them attitude too. I've been cursed out by NCOs before but God forbid one of them tries cursing out a female. Lastly I find they are allowed more freedom. They are allowed to grow their hair very long, wear many different styles, grow nails and wear polish and wear ear rings. Males can do absolutely nothing to feel like an individual. We all have the same hair, no piercings etc. The military is supposed to identify it's service members as one uniformed team whereas they give so many different (and easier) standards for women. If women were expected perform to the same standards as males and follow the same rules and regulations as males (hair, nails, pay) I'd be 100% ok with them being here.
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Being the military I know EXACTLY the shit you are talking about I personally don't care, as long as I can trust you to have my back and throw me a mag when I'm out in a shoot out. The Navy is one of the oldest professions on the Earth and it wasn't long ago when it was a highly male dominated work force. Things changed around the late 80's and early 90's and the Navy is still very much a all boys club in the stories I've heard from my friends who have joined the Navy and/or was in the Navy and now have gotten out. I'm not against women serving in the military. I think it's the fact that the old guard is seeing new things and don't like the change and still hold views of days of old. YES it sucks but don't let those lame ass douchebag mofos ruin you stay in the military. If it gets really bad, change branches I guess it's one way to get away from the whole negative view of women in the military.
I can understand why the guys are rude to you after reading all of your comments. You seem like a very unpleasant person. Also, women often have it a lot easier than men in the military. They have much lower standards on PT tests, they can often skip out on PT without any repercussions, they get promoted to high levels without having to shoulder the burden of combat and many guys feel like they need to tip toe around them in order to not get called sexist. In my opinion females should be severely restricted when it comes to the jobs they can have in the military.
Women in the military can be very demanding, and expect too much without giving much in return. Now, this is not every single "woman" who is in but its the majority. My husband has to deal with a difficult 1srg, who expects them to do the job with no information or updates. She is a pain, and I hope she gets kicked out for not doing her job.
From what i understand, there are a lot of sexual relationships in the military and a lot of blurred lines. Women are distracting in that sense, sexually, and men also feel protective of female counterparts. So they're doing their job plus worried about the women.
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first i 'm sorry about what's happening in your life, it must be unimaginable and very tough.
your question is far more beyond girls ask guys.
as you can see, we live in a cilvilization that constructed by advanced level of social organization and strict moral code. but who really influence people's behavior? the law itself.
the law is extract from universal value, but not all of it
in normal life, most of men will follow the principle of respect as atmosphere of feminism and egalitarianism trend all around the world , more and more powerful women hold a post in hight political position.
nonetheless, women in Military career do not seem to have any improvement. the law or the universal value hardly have an effect to counteract the traditional ideology leaded by male chauvinism, Military society shielded the cole value against any force that try to change it.
Given these concerns, none of these human noble spirit and moral existed in interaction of soilders, put the male soilders without restraint and release their instinct of beast
what else can you expect?
just like the bacteria live in a hothouse, you saw it , you can't help it.Traditionally it was considered bad luck for women to be on board a ship. Mainly because men are weak and they can't think of much else when there is a woman around.
I have met a number of Female Army officers in the British army and like yourself they were very intelligent, well trained and commanded respect. A lot of men join the armed forces because they can't do much in civilian life or have training or good education.
I can see from the idiots on this thread what you are up against and I am not surprised you are having problems.
All men are not like this.I served in the army in a unit that had about 3 women in it. Two were officers and 1 a sergeant I never heard anyone doubt there courage or capability but as men often think with their penis there was plenty of rude comments of the sexual type regarding these women and pretty much any other women. This is what men do in the company of other men when in a group. They talk about women. I think a lot of it was just bravado and if you don't join in then you get a hard time but it really depends on the guys because some of them were not like that at all.
They are indeed serving in military. But it's better if they aren't considered in fighting forces. Not because of calibre issues, but because, females are vulnerable to heavy torture in conflicts, not to mention they can be gang raped and sexually assaulted before killing her when captured by enemies.
Historical data has already shown that about millions of women have been raped and killed by military forces during world war. Women remains no more than a sex object during conflicts abd it is heart breaking to imagine such situation.This is only a guess based on what I have heard men in the military say, but maybe because women aren't doing the same jobs as the men, and are protected more than their male counterparts, but still expect to be seen as equals in that field. Women in the military even have a lot easier standards in order to get promoted, than men. That sense of entitlement to be seen as an equal, and in some cases a superior, but not earning it by going through what the men go through seems to be what most of they guys have the biggest problem with.
On "men"? Luckily, not all males are assholes, albeit it's possible that those in the military are more likely to claim male superiority due to how "males are inherently more powerful" or whatever. If that's their only source of self-worth, well, enjoy getting shot at the snap of a politician...
You are talking about an system that was created by men and run by men. And now when both genders enlist, men are expected do more and the fact women are not even hold to the same standards. I for one do not agree with that or agree with the fact that women are allowed in the military. We should not send our mothers , sister, wives or daughters to fight our wars, combat jobs or not.
I like military girls ;) 3.bp.blogspot.com/.../...-11_20090727101549889.jpg
I don't care what other men think about women in the forces may it be the military or police, I sure think it's a great thing to do apart from finding it hot :-D Ofcourse women can do what they want. There are just 2 genders in humans, wonder why we wind up squabbling over who must do what and who mustn't
I used to work in a marketing office that was 95% female and when those women got together in the break room they were every bit as nasty and sexist as men, arguably more so.
Don't try to make this a male only thing. It's a human thing. Women are just far more inclined to see themselves as victims.
Get over it.Hmmm, you say you are in the United States Navy? What is your career field job code listing?
There've been official tests and examinations into mixed gender units, and it's been seen that there're significantly higher casualty rates because most blokes in the army are rather 2D about women. That's the real reason,
I don't know about navymen.. but there are genuine men who know values of women... don't think everyone one are same... can u reply mu question? Pls check profile
You have met normal men yeah? They can be complete assholes en masse. I don't think it has anything to do with the navy...
It's been a male dominated field for thousands of years. You can expect a bit of machismo.
The navy men are just pissed that you brought ovaries into their giant gay orgy fest.
They would arouse men easily in the line of work. No distractions are tolerated?
Because a lot of asses join the military. You can look back in high school and the biggest losers are the ones who join the military
Actually, it's better only men in military, women are kind creatures. I would be sad when i see a girl carrying a heavy machine gun.
I don't, I think its hot.
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