Palastine, very simply put it was their land, they where essentially evicted from by a foreign power and then the rest of the world sided with the jewish people for reasons I still can't figure out then when you look at the fact that for every israely killed fifteen palastinians die. When ever they have come to a peace term israel has instigated greater tention like claiming land that they had previously agreed belonged to palastine and then when palastine aggressively confronts them (as any nation would) they play the victim card, the didn't strike first (despite doing everything in their power to instigate a confrontation) ergo they are the innocent victim. Its a system that works really well since palastinians lose 15X the people in any conflict that weakens them while strengthening israel, its a win win situation and with the rest of the world siding with Israel they can and do get away with it. As for hamas, well when your people are slaughtered regularly and no one gives a damn, you'll agree to just about anything if you think it will save you, even if its putting some one in power that is of questionable character, just look at germany/italy. If we look at what israel has done it would have violated multiple international laws. The most recent spat was due to an angry palastinian blowing up a taxi, I believe no one was hurt. The Israely response to such an action? They spent the next week bombing palastinian cities, people who had no idea why they where being bombed why their families where being killed, thousands of dead, because of an unmanned taxi being blown up, most likely due to a angry palastinian. Imagine that, an entire people held accountable for the actions of a single individual. Then of course you have the incident where a bunch of palastinian americans and palastinians across Europe got on a yacht, whent into international waters and peacefully protested as close to the border as they could be, the actions of israel. Israels response was to send black ops soldiers onto the ship and attack them. They claimed it was in selfdefense, you know going out into international waters, boarding a vessel under the cover of night with out permision (technicly piracy) then assualted the people on board who where so hostile that the only weapons on board where the life boat oars that they used to defend themselves, and israel claimed that they assualted these people in self defense, people who where American no less, their ally.
Well, ultimately I believe that the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian lands was a terrible mistake but as a historian, I also try to keep a distanced look at these kind of hot potatoes of global politics. It is true that the Israelis stole the Palestinian lands but this was 70 years ago. Not much can be done about this now. Telling the former Israeli immigrants to just go back into the diaspora like you suggested further down is not a decent solution. Especially since many of the Israelis who live there are not even the original immigrants but their children and grandchildren. While they might be sitting on stolen land, this land has - ironically - also become their land now.
Also, while Israel as a nation is certainly more aggressive, we can't just excuse the Palestinians for everything either. Back when I was a child and I had a fight with one of my siblings and we ended up blaming each other in front of our parents, my mom would always say "for a fight it always needs two people". I think this is both true for children fighting and nations fighting against each other. There's never just black and white, good and evil, right and wrong. It's always a rather complicated issue.
Personally, I think by far the best solution would be to found one big country out of Israel and Palestine. A democratic republic that has a progressive constitution, strong civil rights and makes sure to include all minorities. Unfortunately, this kind of solution is completely impossible at this moment, mostly due to the intense religious fanatism on both sides of the border. So the second-best solution in my opinion would be a two-nation-solution, where both get a fair share of the land available and agree to leave each other alone. Even this seems very difficult at the moment, both due to all the religious fundamentalists on both sides and the extremely right-wing, nationalist government of Benjamin Netanyahu who would rather die of a rocket impact than make a compromise.
Both are somehow wrong because the conflict between the countries wouldn't have lasted that long. I take Palestine's side because it's unbelievable how violent Israel is to Palestine, also I think it's wrong how the Israelis stole the Palestinian land.
neither. I think is real should let then have their own country but I'm not for either side. I'm not there, I don't truly know what's going on.
Of course Palestine! I'm against land stealing!
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Sure. Hitler was mean to Jews, but Israel has been assholes to everyone from day 1 of it's existence. Never quite big enough of an asshole to make everyone take back their holocaust guilt, but big enough assholes nonetheless.
Look at what happened on the other side of the war. The atrocities that the Japanese committed across Asia was at least as bad, (often many times worse) than the holocaust. Do you see any of them milking this for sympathy today? That's right, we just put our head down, got our shit together and moved on. It's about time Israel did the same.
"How many more resolutions have to be violated,
How many more children have to be annihilated
Israel is a terror state, there terrorists that terrorize,
I testify, my television televised them telling lies,
This is not a war, it is systematic genocide" - Lowkey
Beware of the Zionist..
Palistine! ❤
Fuck Israel, they're murderers occupying stolen land.
Just to think my Government is supporting Israel. So, they're supporting genocide.
#FuckTheWest
Mixed.
In principle I support the plight of the Palestinians since I am Orthodox Christian and many of the Palestinians including those who were originally displaced were/are Christian like myself.
However, pragmatically, I feel like I have to support Israel as the "lesser evil" because I believe that if Palestine were to ever actually win, it would most likely devolve into another oppressive Islamist theocracy what with the Arab Spring influencing their thinking, in which case Palestinian Christians and Jews would hardly have it any better than they do now.
At least Israel gives radical Palestinians a target they hate even more--the Zionists--and thus takes the heat off of Palestinian minorities like Christians and Jews. Get rid of Israel and my bet is that immediately they will switch their focus to these groups.
Ultimatively both are wrong, but the wrongdoings of Palestine there are in no way comparable to those Israel in intensity, destructiveness and as they are responsive.
Both are equally wrong. The very fact that there has been no peace solution for the last 70 plus years, and the terrible wars between the two means it should have been solved already. Yet there has been no solution, and I still prefer the thought if both can try to exist together instead of grabbing at each other's throat all the time.
Free Palestine, all day... everyday ❤️
By my dislike of israel, I have to say palestine,
We Americans should have hung them out to dry after they purposely attacked the U. S. S Liberty in international waters.
American Servicemen Died, Good men.
There is really not a side. There should be one goal: peaceful co-existence
War doesn't care about laws.
I don't like Jews, but in a war between people who use children as human shields and blow themselves up vs people who don't... easy choice.
You forgot to add an option "Neither / Indifferent".
I'm on the side of nuclear weaponry turning the Middle East into a sea of glass. All of the cultures there are filth, and the sooner they're exterminated, the better.
Neither are without mistakes, but Palestine is still the right side.
Israel. The media only shows you what happens when people retaliate against drone buyers and rock throwers.
I say neither. Israel has done terrible things but the Palestinians aren't angels either.
My answer is obvious.
Numbers 24:9
The nation is like a mighty lion;
When it is sleeping, no one dares wake it.
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed.”
I couldn't care less so long as our ties to Israel don't drag us into any conflict between them.
israel is fucked up i hope hitler comes back to life
I voted for one of them 🙂
Against Israel %110.
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