Do believe china was never an advanced country in the past 2000 years?

China was never an advanced country.

1) Writing

China was the last of the "ancient" civilizations to develop writing.

China invented writing about 3500 years ago,

Oracle bone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Middle East invented writing 5000 years ago.

European invented writing 7000 years ago, Vinča script.

You can find some "chinese characters" in Vinča script.

Example 十, 土, 干,口, 王,田.

Vinča symbols - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did chinese invented their own writing 3500 years later, or they copied?

2) Iron age

China entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East,

At the time, European used iron tools, chinese used primitive tools.

Iron Age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3) Building

When European and middle east people built stone/brick houses, chinese kings lived in a mud palace.

Erlitou, The capital of china (2100 BC – 1600 BC) was built by mud.

Erlitou culture - Wikipedia,

The Great Pyramid of Giza was built 4500 years ago.

- The chinese wall

The old Chinese wall was built by mud.
The Chinese Wall you see today was built a few hundred years ago.

""Unlike the earlier fortifications, the later construction was stronger and more elaborate due to the use of bricks and stone instead of rammed earth."
Great Wall of China - Wikipedia,

4) The so-called chinese inventions are all fake

-- Compass.

The compass was invented in Italy.

The pointer of the ancient chinese compass is as big as a spoon.
The spoon is put on the top of a board, and there is nothing else.
It does not work.

Compass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (china, Si Nan)

Updates:
some of you must read Joseph Needham's books.
Needham was a simple man.
Needham's biographer Simon Winchester commented that "Needham was intellectually in love with communism; and yet communist spymasters and agents, it turned out, had pitilessly duped him."

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  • So? Even if that is all true, which I can't agree with (I first would have to research these things in actual, scientific journals, not unreliable Wikipedia) but even if that was all true - what's your point?

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    • go ahead, wiki provides the basic truth.
      China was the last of the "ancient" civilizations to develop writing.

      China invented writing about 3500 years ago,

      Oracle bone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    • I study history, I only care about the fact.
      European knew the earth is round 2000 years ago. (Pythagoras and Eratosthenes).

      Chinese even do not know the earth is round till 1900,
      Chinese even do not know the difference between Artery and vein till 1900,
      If European did not teach Chinese this, Chinese can’t find it out today.

    • So what. You still didn't answer my question. I guess you just want to hear yourself talking.

  • China was advanced, especially more advanced during the dark ages

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    • Then why chinese was enslaved for 2000 years?
      1) Chinese were enslaved by mongol, manchu, xianbei, Khitan, Jurchen empires.
      2) Manchus ruled china for 300 years till 1911.
      Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia
      The population rate was 100,000,000 chinese VS 1.000.000 manchus.
      manchus killed 50% of chinese.

    • You must read Joseph Needham's book.
      Needham is a simple ma.
      Needham's biographer Simon Winchester commented that "Needham was intellectually in love with communism; and yet communist spymasters and agents, it turned out, had pitilessly duped him."
      Joseph Needham is simple man,
      he believe everything chinese told him.
      Needham's biographer Simon Winchester commented that "Needham was intellectually in love with communism; and yet communist spymasters and agents, it turned out, had pitilessly duped him."

  • You very conveniently left out iron casting, the Chinese were doing it in 500 BC the rest of the world didn't manage it until about 2,000 years later. Chinese ceramics were way ahead of anything elsewhere.

    My theory about why China was stultified in so many ways is they also developed a very strong, stable social system based on Confucian ideas. This avoided a lot of the turmoil elsewhere but a harmonious society is not a dynamic society. If your goal is stability you suppress new ideas which look like they could rock the boat. Hence the Chinese had gunpowder but mainly used it for fireworks.

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    • you must changed the history

      Iron age

      China entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East,

      At the time, European used iron tools, chinese used primitive tools.

      Iron Age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    • you are a big mouth, you make you self a joke here.
      1) China entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East,
      2) The so-called chinese inventions are all fake
      The most advanced ancient ship made in china.(?)
      Chinese treasure ship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      It was a punt ship. It was not advanced.

    • you must be a big mouth.

      There were many great scientists and science books in the world 2000 years ago.
      "Rhind Mathematical Papyrus" (1650 BC).
      Archimedes, Euclid, Aristotle, Pythagoras, Eratosthenes.
      European knew the earth is round 2000 years ago. (Pythagoras and Eratosthenes).

      Chinese even do not know the earth is round till 1900,
      Chinese even do not know the difference between Artery and vein till 1900,
      If European did not teach Chinese this, Chinese can’t find it out today.

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