If we look everything logically, we have two options:
Either the universe always existed or God always existed.
Astronomers have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that our universe began at the Big Bang. So that leaves God. This I think is logically intuitive to most people, just like the validity of scientific consistency is.
I want to know what creative response an atheist would have to this.
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I think you're really in love with logical fallacies. It's amazing how many of those you can pack into such a short question.
Logical fallacy number 1: "Black-or-White": No, these are actually not the only options. There are many more options. For example the universe might have come out of nowhere for reason we don't yet understand. Perhaps the laws of physics did not apply at that stage or perhaps a different set of law of physics applied at that stage. It's also possible that our universe was in fact born out of a different universe that had collapsed before. There are also other options on the religious side. For example somebody might believe that god created himself. Christianity has about 10,000 different denominations and none of them agree with each other.
Fallacy number 2: Appeal to popularity: Just because many people think something is a certain way doesn't make it true. And related to that:
Fallacy number 3: Appeal to emotion: This one is even more severe in your question than the second one. Just because something feels good or intuitive etc. DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.
However, what bothers me the most about your question is the lie that "astronomers have proven beyond a doubt..." Clearly, you don't understand how science works. So let me explain it to you. Science is not a holy book. It doesn't have rules and "truths" that are carved in stone. Yes, the big bang is currently considered a theory and that means a fact. However, a scientific theory is only so long regarded as a fact until it is disproven. So no, astronomers have NOT proven beyond a doubt that the universe was created with the big bang. The likelihood is relatively high that it was that way AS OF RIGHT NOW but perhaps in 50 or 100 or 500 years we will have more and different evidence that will point in a different direction (though certainly not to god).6
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