1st example is patriotism. I will never apologize for being proud to be an American. My ancestors worked hard to get here and even harder after they did, all for the opportunities this country has to offer. And now it seems like my generation would rather put their own country down and I don't get it. Every country has bad things in its past... but we're one of the freest societies on earth.
I think America is the greatesr country in the world. Why are so many people ashamed to say that?
2nd example is privilege. If I have to hear about my straight, White, middle class privilege like it's a BAD thing again, I swear... it's GOOD. Being privileged is a GOOD thing. It's what we all want... to live a happy, stable life. It's called the American dream!
It's wrong that minorities suffer. But shaming people for NOT suffering doesn't help them.. it just hurts everybody. Privilege doesn't make someone a bad person it just makes them lucky so instead of trying to take it from those who have it you should be trying to help EVERYone get it. Prosperity isn't a bad thing.
Am I the only one who feels this way? Haven't we gotten a bit ridiculous as a society that we're telling each other and the world that the exact things that make us great are bad or wrong?
Most Helpful Guy
I think the crux of your message is in the paragraph :- "It's wrong that minorities suffer. But shaming people for NOT suffering doesn't help them.. it just hurts everybody. Privilege doesn't make someone a bad person it just makes them lucky so instead of trying to take it from those who have it you should be trying to help EVERYone get it. Prosperity isn't a bad thing".
What you are saying is absolutely correct but I would move away from the idea of being proud or not being proud of who we are. It is an individual's choice how they feel about themselves, the important thing is not to impose their views on other people. Lets look at your statement of bringing everyone up to a certain standard of living or having rights. Yes I totally agree but one person should not stay up at the expense of another but on the flip side a person should not move up by bringing another person down.
I feel general terms such as "Prejudice" or "Privilege" are defeatist in that they polarise people if we think of ourselves has people first of rather than men/women, racially different, class different etc.
In life all people should have equal rights to advance themselves. How you do it is up to you, if you acquire wealth ( again goes back to the "You haven't hurt or abused anybody" to get it) then you should feel proud or entitled to have it and spend how you wish ( a whole other topic of discussion for another day).
I can see how sometimes discussions like this become emotive but in a strictly logical sense your premise holds a lot of water.
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Most Helpful Girl
i agree, i'm very patriotic about my country and i do feel privilege for being angolan rather than an ethnic or religious minority. i would feel awkward if people made me feel bad for belonging. i guess in places like america, intense patriotism is commonplace in racists and those with the "go back to your country" narratives. also everyone expects everyone to be an apologist for something they can't help, just look at that one poll for whether muslims should apologize for terrorism haha0