The protesters are being treated like cattle because they don't want to drink water that will kill them. The UN is currently investigating because they believe it's a humans rights violation. I know something horrific happened to the protesters last night.
Does anyone have an update on the Dakota Access Pipeline?
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I wouldn't believe all the crap protesters feed you.
I've worked on many pipelines. From planning, construction, operations and decommissioning. For the most part, a pipeline is just a piece of metal in the ground. 99.99% of the time, the pipeline is operating perfectly fine and the contents of the pipe are largely irrelevant since it does not escape.
Pipelines are the favored transport method of liquid fuels because one can transport a lot more product faster. Pipelines are also the safest out of the options (safer than railcar or truck). You can move 1,000,000 barrels of oil per day via pipeline and if a leak occurs, it will likely happen in the middle of nowhere... meaning no deaths, and the oil can be cleaned fairly easily.
A pipeline leak is rarely going to be near populated places, and so the chance of contaminated water because a leak occurs within someone's property who uses groundwater is slim.
In contrast, to transport 1,000,000 barrels of oil via truck, you need to put about 90 fuel tanker trucks on the road every single day, travelling thousands of miles across the country to the refinery. Every accident involving a fuel truck will likely be in populated places, with a high risk of causing injury/death and the land contamination would be across the country in tanker loads, rather than consolidated in a single location (like a pipeline). Every truck accident causing a spill is going to contaminate an urban watershed.5
I noticed you mentioned, ginny, that the corporation should just stop the pipeline. Then I have to ask you what is the safest way to transport the oil?
I know it's easy just to say, we'll stop using petroleum. However most people who say this don't realize just how much oil has shaped the modern world. Roughly about 50 to 60 percent of oil is uses for gasoline or kerosene. But 40 to 50 percent is used for a LOT of other things. If you feel that we should just give up using petroleum, then you're going to have to give up the very computer or cellphone you're using right now. The plastic components are made of petroleum products. The plastic components of every single household appliance you have has petroleum products. Nylon has petroleum products, thus much of the clothes we wear require oil. Dentures, tvs, antihistamines, aspirins, linoleum, shoe soles, glue, paints, dyes, garden hoses, deodorants, pillows, soaps, detergents, carpeting, catheters, syringes, toothpaste, prosthetic limbs, anesthetics, caulking, yarn, eyeglasses, radios, contact lenses, wet suits, ink, shampoo, refrigerators, and many many more things all have petroleum products. I don't mean they're powered by petroleum, they're made from petroleum. To say nothing of the machines which require lubricants made from petroleum.
I'd like to ask the Lakota people if they use any of the things I listed. The answer, as we all know, is absolutely yes. So if they have the moral courage to protest the pipeline, then they should attempt to propose a better way to transport the oil. Or if they have the moral courage to say we should not drill for oil, then they should have the moral courage to give up all the products I just listed (and the many more I didn't list). The same goes for anyone who says we should just stop using oil altogether.6
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I live in Alberta Canada in one of the biggest oilfields in Canada and we have hundreds of thousands of kilometers of pipeline and they hardly ever leak and when they do 99% of the time it's caused by someone hitting it with something or improper welding and when proper ground disturbance training and proper welding is used and each weld is tested there are very few leaks6
Last I heard pipeline police hosed protesters in subfreezing temperatures causing hypothermia which resulted in several protesters being sent to the hospital. If it weren't for the DNC screwing over voters in the primary we'd have a chance of the government on the side of the protesters and not the corporations that own the pipeline.
tear gas, water cannons, less lethal ammo.
The sad thing is that its not on directly on reservation land instead of just poisoning the watershed of it, then the Reservation police would actually be justified in unloading on those assholes harrasing protestors1
I don't see how having a pipe in the ground would make the water toxic. It is not like north Dakota doesn't have pipelines already.
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If everything you know about this subject comes from media reports, you don't know the complete and unbiased story.1
I'm just gonna call it now, there will be a leak and it's going to fuck those people over. "oh but we have pipelines already and they are fine!" Yea, it's a pipeline like any other. So I'm calling it now, it's gonna happen lol. That's just how things work.2
They should be forced to divert the pipeline away from the water. Right now, they are operating illegally, given how close they are... but Obama isn't really enforcing the law1
No sorry 😔
But the political climate looks to not be in their favor
Let's just hope humanity triumphs greed1
the BBC aren't even reporting this... i saw it on rt1
last i ready-they're going to California0
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Finally Going to Get ALL of our Resources that We have coming, instead of Depending on the Saudi's. Trump will make sure of it. He will See to it, all goes Fine down this Thin Line.
The "Out of Control" EPA is Blowing this way out of Proportion. There are many of our own Pipelines throughout America that Go through Large Bodies of Water, and Anyone, hun, in Charge of this, such as Dapper Don, will Be Certain no one is "Poisoned."
The Native Americans are Afraid, as well, of this Going through Sacred Grounds. With Trump in Charge, he will Probably Reroute it. xx3
I'm going to look into this, had no idea about this.1
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