Would you date a psychedelic drug user?

[ElijahCynicism]

So, this occurred to me quite recently. I always espouse that I am a drug user - I'll answer questions as a drug user, and I'll identify as a drug user. And I am! I mean, I am. Recreational drugs such as marijuana, uppers, downers, 'screamers, laughers', etcetera etcetera. And I'm not opposed to amphetamines, stimulates or opiates, thought I haven't come across them yet.

But the thing is, recreational drugs aren't really my primary pursuit. They're fun and all, but it's not what I'm *really* about. I'm really into psychedelic drugs, entheogens especially. These drugs aren't fun, for the uniniated - well... They can be in small amounts, but generally, drugs like DMT or Salvinorin A compounds are to be taken with the most extreme seriousness. They've been used in religious ceremonies and for divinatory purposes for centuries, and all sorts of indigenous magic, particularly in Shamanism.

And it occurred to me... There are a lot of people, the psyche-focused, who don't care at all for recreational drugs, but will routinely take these kinds of drugs, for their traditional effects in terms of preternatural knowledge and wisdom - much like meditation or prayer. Those who want to see the outer reaches of what the mind can do, from either a spiritual or scientific perspective.

And it made me think... What would the average GAG user, who are generally vehemetly against drug use, think of that? Someone who takes these drugs, alone or with another like-minded type, once or twice a month at most, for whatever reason they have? These drugs are non-addictive, generally legal, and unless you're like them, they'd have no reason to take them around you, 'cos you'd just get in the way.

Would you date a person like this?

And I'm not asking about myself, even though there's a part of me in that, I am a recreational drug user and I don't even date, so, I mean... Answer in a *general* sort of sense, ahaha. It's an opinion poll more than a lobby for advice, yeah?

[Anonymous]

Well, back in the day I was pretty opposed to the idea of drugs since I had been brought up with the usual ideal of "Drugs, no; bad!" However, there was this kid who I met a couple years ago who happened to belong to the 'drug users crowd', for lack of a better term. His whole friend group was much like you, where they enjoyed recreational drugs and were really into the idea of psychedelics. Before all of this, I didn't really know much about them, and the only view I had on them was that they were 'bad' (since that was the only thing that I had heard up until then). However, he managed to open my mind up to a different perspective, and I began to view his lifestyle in a different light. Although I still haven't taken any psychedelics, I'm definitely not opposed to them since yes, I understand that it's not just about 'getting effed up'-they've potentially got the ability to open your mind up to a lot of different things that otherwise would've remained intact, and depending on your purpose for using them, they can definitely be beneficial.

For example, I can even say the same things about marijuana; although I'm a huge fan of simply sitting around and talking/getting to know a person, not many people are always up for that... but marijuana tends to change that, causing people to open/talk more and in short, creates a good bonding experience between people. A lot of people will argue and say that all of this can be accomplished without drugs (including all of the supposed 'wisdom' that you gain from psychedelics, which yes, I believe in), but in the end, it all just depends on you and generally speaking, what mindset you have going into things. If you take acid for the sake of seeing colors and feeling stupid, then yeah, you probably won't gain much from it, but if you understand that it's got the potential to spark your mind intellectually, then yeah, your experience might be a bit different (but I'm just assuming this, since again, I've still never taken any!)

Though long story short, I think a lot of people are still just under the impression that it's bad and have never known anything else to believe, and many don't even want to give it a chance or try to understand WHY other people feel so positively about it. It's all a matter of being open minded and trying to understand someone else's perspective, but I'll just shut up now since I wrote the most ridiculous ramble fest ever up there. ...hopefully the majority of it makes sense.

[Opinion Owner]

and to answer the question, yes, I wouldn't mind as long as drugs weren't the person's life. I've known quite a few people who tend to make drugs a lifestyle, and that's something that I wouldn't be OK with.

[ElijahCynicism]

I love this answer so much. I agree with everything you said =]

[jacquesvol]

The effect of an addiction is that drugs become the person's lifestyle and life.

[jacquesvol]

Are you a pusher for a dealer or do you deal yourself to pay your shit?

[aly-marie]

This is not the best place to ask, most users here are very against drugs of any kind and will not listen to the fact that psychedelic drugs are different. They are still technically recreational drugs, I know I take them when I'm just hanging out with friends.

Generally the people who are so against drugs are against EVERY type, and they've never tried any themselves so they can't really distinguish between them.

I could not date that type of person because I'm very open-minded and interested in trying something if I've done the research on it. My boyfriend is the same way as me, so I would obviously date a psychedelic drug user.

[ElijahCynicism]

Very good =] And yeah, I know psychedelic drugs are recreational, too, but I'm talking about their ritual use in this question. But ofcourse you'd be into it, ahaha. Although, I don't think this isn't the best palce to ask - I was wondering how the notion would affect the average GAG user, as I said. The exact split between drug people and anti-drug people nomatter the context is very interesting, I think. Gets the anthropologist in me, ahahaha.

[peace-love-couture]

LOL you're asking the anti-drug world of GirlsAskGuys, where everyone is the moral police of what's right and wrong in ones life by their own?

I think you know what the majority of answers will be. "No" 

Anyways, I'll go ahead and add to the "yes" that so long as it isn't their everything in life. I think we've all known at least one person who makes drugs their life and it seems they have nothing else to offer or going on. That's fine for some people but bothersome for me. 

But I'd be fine with it. It's no different than drinking(which a majority of the anti drug users on here are all for).

So yes.

[ElijahCynicism]

Well, as I said, it's ritual drug use, not recreational, which is very very different from drinking. Like, you would very rarely sit down with a pint and try and contact the great spirit, ahahaha. And yeah, I wanted to ask GAG specifically, though, 'cos I thought it might make them think, with the specifics of the question, but no one really read past the word 'drug' =/

[peace-love-couture]

But most users do not want to differentiate between ritual or recreational. I'm actually really interested in ritual use. For most of them drugs are drugs. Not for myself but I'd like to see it up close

[ElijahCynicism]

Oh yeah, ofcourse. All ritual drugs can be used recreationally anyway, and I do both as I said, but as I said earlier, somewhere else, this question is about a very specific echelon of drug users, not commonly found in the west.

[peace-love-couture]

I think this site is composed of mostly people found in the west. They don't even like well known drugs, let alone less known.

To them, drugs are drugs. There is nothing else to consider or learn about. It's just being close minded but I think that's one of the biggest characteristics of people in the USA

[ElijahCynicism]

Hehe, yeah, maybe.

[Anonymous]

It's funny looking through the answers below - you can see the different camps of people. What the general population doesn't seem to understand is that all drugs aren't terrible, all of them aren't addicting and life-shattering, and all of them aren't to be avoided at all costs. Sometimes, ironically, people with this mindset drink a lot of alcohol - maybe they tend to believe what they hear more than others.

I will say, certain drugs have the potential to do more long-term harm when used regularly - amphetamines, methamphetamine, cocaine - uppers. This includes adderall, vyvanse and other "smart drugs". I tend to avoid dating people who do these drugs.

Let's not forget the downers - alcohol, xanax, opiates, klonopin, etc. not good. very addictive and destructive. I avoid dating people who do these drugs.

I place marijuana, MDMA, LSD, DMT, mushrooms, and other 'entheogens' in the mostly non-addictive and less dangerous category. There is a reason these sorts of substances are used in certain "churches" and are present in sacraments - for example Ayahuasca brew in South America.

Anyway, if you're the type of person who immediately throws anyone under the bus for "doing drugs" - grow up! Try opening your mind and thinking critically for yourself instead of listening to what is force-fed you by society.

Do what you like, and find others to enjoy those things with you. Steer clear of the prescription uppers and downers - they are bad news. Enjoy the natural entheogens (mushrooms, DMT) and use LSD judiciously.

Good luck! I know how hard it can be to find a fellow psychonaut to link up with.

[VisionofthePast]

No, and I too was once an avid drug user. For me, life is interesting as is. I don't mind someone who was once a drug user as well, but I wouldn't want to deal with that kind of mentality. It is not "I" who is getting in the way, it is that person's need to get high that's getting in the way. I don't really care what they're used for either because face it, you're more likely just out to get f***ed up than practice Shamanism (which would probably be even stranger). Also, my brain was designed to release DMT at only two points in my life. I won't question it's workings, I will only assume there is a reason for that and leave it be.

[ElijahCynicism]

I think the Shamans might disagree with you on your 'you're more like just out to get f***ed up than practice Shamanism' sentiment. And that's sort of irrelevant, anyway, in the canon of the users this question is about, they are out to do it ritually and not to get f***ed up, and they don't have a need, either, it's just part of their lives.

[VisionofthePast]

Shamans or not, rituals or not, still doesn't change how I feel about it. I prefer someone who prefers this reality, the one that is most important that you deal with. If it's something they cannot do without, then it is not just a part of their lives, and is necessary, by definition.

[ElijahCynicism]

Alright.

[Anonymous]

I think that drugs like LSD are worse than cocaine and speed and opiates. They work by replacing serotonin in your brain and basically cause your brain to malfunction, the very definition of brain damage. Yes, they are not physically addictive and the tiny doses needed to get the desired effect will not kill you but anything that makes you see things that are not there and experience things that are not real are changing your brain which is the very essence of yourself.
The pro drug crowd says it's harmless but the truth is, nobody knows the long term effects. There are plenty of accounts of people who have had problems. Not just bad trips but permanent thought patterns. Some feel like they have lost the capacity to ever be happy again. This could be because serotonin regulates mood and if you mess that up you could be sad for a long time.
I grew up in the 80's and acid was everywhere. I worked with a guy who ran naked though the center of town after he took it. I had a friend who saw bullfrogs as big as Volkswagens. I saw people change after only taking it couple of times. They became docile. I used to wonder if it was like a chemical lobotomy.
I knew a psychiatrist who back in the 80's told me had had patients who took acid and could not live with what they saw.
I never used drugs and I know the pro drug crowd would think I am closed minded. All my friends urged me to try drugs and see for myself. Now a lot of these people just drifted through life. A couple of my friends were on track for college but one decided he wanted to be an "artist" instead and the other just wanted to work at a nursery so he could grow his own pot.
I would not want my kids to use any of this stuff. I'm glad that i would not be a hypocrite to tell them not to use drugs when I did myself.
I used to drink beer when I was younger. I gave it up 20 years ago. I had surgery and had oxycodone for the pain. I took them for the first day but had some left over. For some crazy reason a few weeks later I took two of them to see what it was like. I didn't feel much so I took a third one and it was sort of like being drunk. I tossed the rest of them, that is about the extent of my drug use. Psychedelics can change people. I think that people who use these drugs cannot see that they are different people. Everything you do to your brain will stay with you for the rest of your life. Would you like your significant other to use these drugs and have them change into somebody you might not like anymore?

[Mrknowseverything]

This question sounds the same as would you date a drug dealer? We all know the answer for that unless you are related or affiliated to those kind of people. In the US 70-80% of population use some kind of recreational drugs or just drugs to get away from problems which they never go just for the hours of being under the influence gets people away from stress. Another fact is that parents that were in some kind of addiction, their children will follow as a hereditary instinct. Another bigger problem is the system has corruption to keep drugs flowing in the streets for business and money, this one key reason why it never stops. I have a friend in pompano beach fl which has year of rehab, he tells me the story he used to work as a seller on the streets with dirty cops as an informant for distributors and other corrupt feds which shut their mouth over money, once the organized drug corruption enters in the system it will not go til washington replace official personal. He mentions his job used to be informant for head distributors and dirty cops so they can get rid of other sellers theyre no supposed to sell in the area, the cops will arrest them and makeup as many charges they can to get rid of them. He also mentions he made many calls to sheriffs department to report whore houses and drug over flooded at night by martin luther king and they wouldn't do anything but when someone reports a stranger new in town selling dope they will apprehend those. He told me this the real life we all living in mayor cities, I never believed him til he showed me the operations and most gangs related the corrupt system. One way to stop this corruption is to replace dogs with technology to sniff drugs with sofisticated sensors and treat incoming drugs being smuggled from other countries as chemical weapons of mass destruction so everyone will search with cautious, this is something that will pass as a law in congress to stop drugs forever.

[rockingpianoman]

No. psychedelic drugs can be very dangerous ( even when they say it's all harmless .. the ysaid that about LSD and paddo's also...) and I don't like the whole addiction and drugs abuse thing.

most psychedelic drugs can because flashbacks , sometimes you are even permanently tripping...

well I would maybe date her , but I would certainly try to prevent her from taking drugs , any drugs except alcohol and ocassionally weed ...

yes I know alcohol addiction is one of the worst addictions , but the drug is controlled and you know the effects .

[ziggler]

Your full of it. I know several people even my dad did LSD/shrooms and so have I. Out of like 30 people I know and many other on the internet no one is permanently tripping. If someone has a family history of schizophrenia or has it then sure psychedelics are not for them but for a healthy person with no mental illnesses its fine.

[ziggler]

psychedelics are not addicting physically like alcohol/nicotine.

[ElijahCynicism]

Thats fair enough. The danger element could get to someone of worrysome breed, I can understand. I couldn't deny their danger, as much as I'd like to. I mean, just Wednesday I found myself in the store of a Nursery School with no memory of how I got there, LOL. You can't say that's always safe practice, even in a Shamanistic enviornment. It's good that you're open minded though, with the 'well I would maybe date her' addendum.

[ElijahCynicism]

@Ziggler, it is possible to be 'permanently tripping', while extremely rare. After a lot of extreme use you can enter into permanent states of altered consciousness. Syd Barret was one of the first 'acid casualties', famously. Don't get so het up about it, anyway, ahaha. Relaxxx. To people outside the drug world it's all very scary, I wouldn't criticise someone for it.

[ziggler]

I know syd barret and I've read a lot about him and even the Floyd members who knew him best said he would of broken down even if it wasn't for the LSD he took massive amounts of lsd not normal doses.

[rockingpianoman]

well it's just me , I'm not really pro drugs , especially not psychedelic drugs . I don't like the whole thing of getting out of this world , trance sh*t thing :D

[Skandhanaut]

Not really: www.plosone.org/.../...1371%2Fjournal.pone.0063972

[Skandhanaut]

Pop quiz: Which nobel-prize winner was on LSD when he had his breakthrough that won him the prize?

Hint: We're debating one of it's effects quite a lot right now.

[Anonymous]

Yeah. I mean, I'd definitely like to try some psychedelics (shrooms, acid, salvia if that's considered one) and uh, pretty much every guy I've liked in the past, oh, 3 years has been a fan of psychedelics. Which is merely a coincidence, but an interesting one re: my taste in guys.

So I mean, if I had my way, I would've ALREADY dated some psychedelic drug users. ;)

So yeah in general I have no problem with it, especially in the context you described.

[ElijahCynicism]

LOL, I love this. That's cool =]

And salvia is a psychedelic, yeah, I mentioned 'Salvinorin A compounds', of which there is only Salvia, LOL.

[Skandhanaut]

You have excellent taste, young lady.

[israelisevil]

Dont do salvia I've done it its more a pleasure drug then psychadellic i love Shrooms LSD and Old fassion LSA

[cun7n1nja]

Well, you already know how I feel about this, haha, I wouldn't have a problem with that at all. But then again, I enjoy those things from time to time myself, as you know, for recreation AND 'spiritual adventure' reasons, lol. =P

[ElijahCynicism]

Hehe, yeah I know =]

[cun7n1nja]

But I couldn't resist answering anyway, of course. =D Helps me keep tabs on the other answers later on, lol.

[ElijahCynicism]

Haha, yeah. Lots of people aren't answering right, though =/ Like they're answering for drug users in general, instead of this very specific echelon of drug users.

[cun7n1nja]

I noticed that, lol. I think a lot of people though who aren't or haven't been involved in drug culture or recreational use personally, don't fully understand the difference, ya know? Not having been there themselves [and maybe based upon their observations of drug users that left negative impressions], it probably all seems the same. So I can't blame them I guess, but I also don't feel that they have a full understanding of what you're saying because they can't relate on a personal level.

[ElijahCynicism]

Yeah, I know, I can understand. The 'drugs are drugs' phrase has come up a couple of times here, I don't like that. I mean, the drugs are all drugs, yeah, but there's a huge difference between recreational use and ritual use. I thought it'd at least make people stop and think for a minute, but there's still a clear line between the drug people and the anti-drug people.

[ElijahCynicism]

I don't have a personal stake in it though, I use drugs recreationally and ritually, so who am I defending? Ahahhaa

[cun7n1nja]

Hahah I know, I'm with ya there. =P

[Anonymous]

Probably not. I am not against drugs as a whole, I've dabbled with a few substances ... but I've found there are few people heavily involved in ingesting drugs that don't end up using it as a crutch to escape reality. Often the ONLY crutch. Also, there tends to be a lot of justification on behalf of the user as to why their routine drug use at the expense of OTHER forms of recreation/enlightenment/entertainment/coping mechanisms is legitimate and doesn't affect them.

I may be quite interested in this person as a friend, to learn about their experiences, though.

[Opinion Owner]

To that degree, I get bored with people who are obsessed ONLY with working out, or with sky diving or with watching reality tv, etc. etc. etc.

[ElijahCynicism]

I don't mean to be pedantic, because I do like your answer, but in the canon of the question, they are ritual and not recreational drug users - that means it is not used as a crutch to escape reality. So wether or not there are few of them is elementary, because this question is about the ones that don't, you get me? It's about a very specific echelon of drug users, ones we rarely find in the west.

[Opinion Owner]

I thought of that too ... I guess I could say I'd be skeptical until I knew them long enough to see what it was all about...

[aly-marie]

This is a very good point, I know too many people who say they're not addicted when they so obviously are. Drugs are not evil but many people misuse them.

[Opinion Owner]

Sadly (about my own character) ... addiction and destruction bothers me. But I mean I get bored with mild, non-destructive drug overuse. I feel its limited and illusionary.

[ElijahCynicism]

Yeah, well I totally agree with you on that, if something is all of a persons life they get very tedious very quickly. You don't have to collect stamps to be square, ahaha. And that's what square means, like, one-dimensional.

And yeah, I can understand the skepticism. I doubt it'd be something that would come up right away, though, you'd probably be with him for a while before you even knew. It's possible it's their primary vocation, though, I mean, you can't pretend no shamans ar d***s, haha

[K2111ATIE]

I wouldn't date somebody who does any sort of drugs on a regular basis. (Even once or twice a month.) I'm cool with people using them. It's a personal preference, and I have no business telling people what they should and shouldn't do in life. It's more of a lifestyle difference. I don't do them, and it's easier for me if my partner doesn't do them as well.

If I REALLY liked a guy, I might make an exception if he only smoked weed once or twice a month.

[ElijahCynicism]

Did you read the question? I don't mean recreational drugs. It is a lifestyle, but probably not the one you're talking about, and while weed is a psychedelic drug, I mean, I ruled out recreational drugs. I know all the answers about drug users, I mean *these* drug users, you know?

[K2111ATIE]

Recreational drugs or psychedelic drugs. Drugs are drugs, no matter what the users say. It's not something I'd like to participate in, and I'd rather my partner not do it as well.

[Skandhanaut]

Opinion Owner: So I suppose you don't drink, smoke, eat sugar, drink coffee or use any drugs at all, that have psychoactive properties? Wow, if you're American, you're in the 99.9th percentile then.

[Anonymous]

sure, why not?

I personally don't use drugs and don't plan to but my father has been a frequent drug user and seller since I was a baby, so I've been around them and people who have used them since I was little. It's not as big a deal as people make it out to be, especially people that totally condemn all drugs when they've never tried them and don't know much about them. so basically, yea I'd date someone that uses drugs, so long as they aren't an addict.

[Skandhanaut]

I wish I could find a partner who shared my love for psychedelics. My last partner didn't. It's very difficult to integrate the profound experiences one can have on ayahuascsa for instance, when one does now have support.

Between my first and second ayahuasca trip, my x-gf decided to start questioning our relationship. Knew right away she hadn't been listening at all when I told her why I did this. She even thought Iboga was a trivial endeavour.

[dudeman]

No that phasr of my life is over I wouldn't have a problem if they did them years ago but I'm living a drug and alchohol free lifestyle but I still smoke weed seing how its a plant and not a drug

[ElijahCynicism]

Salvia, Ayahuscha, Peyote, etc. are all plants, too.

[dudeman]

Payote is proccesed a bit, salvia is an extract and I don't know,the other one

[dudeman]

Wrll I yhought payote was but I guess its not

[ElijahCynicism]

Well, if you don't buy the resin, you can actually grow and harvest salvia perfectly naturally, and Peyote, again, can be treated, but generally you eat it as it's picked. Ayahuscha is just a cut of the 'spirit vine'. Same goes for lots of entheogens and psychotropics, while you can get treated versions, often it's just the plant. Salvia is the only one where it's most popular treated, I think.

[dudeman]

Hmmm interesting, then I will only do drugs where there is a very unreasonably high ld50 and I will remain in a resonably proper state of mind, reasonably being defined by me. Lol

[ElijahCynicism]

Hahaha, very good.

[ziggler]

dude weed is a drug. shrooms are too and have a ld of 50. Caffeine is a drug so when you drink coffee or tea your taking a drug. Weed in high amounts can because a minor psychedelic experience similar to low doses of shrooms.

[dudeman]

50 what, do you know what LD50 is

[starlight124]

I wouldn't because I think they could influence me into using drugs

[ElijahCynicism]

Are you that unsure of yourself?

[starlight124]

No I probably wouldn't do it, but curiosity could get the best of me

[ElijahCynicism]

Ahaha, well I don't mean to criticise you, but surely if curiosity gets to you and you try drugs of some calbire, and you like it, what've you lost?

[starlight124]

Depending on what drugs are used I don't know maybe a lot, maybe nothing

[Skandhanaut]

And what makes you think that would be a bad thing? Do you drink by the way?

[israelisevil]

Yah if they drink a lot or smoke weed a lot yah. But what about psychadellics that cause Ego death loss of sense of self and feelings of interconnectedness with world in a religous like experience. Every time i do shrooms or lsd I feel like i spend whole time thinking about god. Also psycadellics arnt addictive if you take them same week the second time nothing happens but you feel sick and wasted drugs. for a lot people not waiting a month between Shrooms or LSD will be a waste and they won't trip. Its very ignorant see shrooms and LSD in same negative light as drugs cause pleasure and addiction like Weed Alchohol Nicotine Cocaine

[Anonymous]

I don't care, as long asthe person doesn't need the drugs to make it through the day.

Typically, I wouldn't date a drug user, but if it's just once in awhile, I'd be cool with that.

[ElijahCynicism]

Yeah. Well, if you were on psychedelic drugs, you couldn't really make it through the day, hahaha.

[Opinion Owner]

Lol, I know that. I meant that if you needed them, you know..like how some people need cocaine. That type of thing.

[ElijahCynicism]

Yeah I know, that's what I was implying, aha. Someone who needed psychedelic drugs would be like... Unable to date, really, LOL.There's no way you could date someone who was tripping all the time. But yeah, I get you =] All day drug users can be a bad scene.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh okay, I agree haha

[Skandhanaut]

Taking psychedelics to get through the day is not really a possibility. They don't work that way.

Most of them result in immediate tolerance, lasting for days. They do not necessarily bring comfortable experience, and few people feel like tripping day after day.

Ayahuasca results in reverse tolerance, but the experience is so intense and hard, and the brew so difficult to make, that again, abuse is not even an option.

[israelisevil]

thats impossible doing psychadellics a second time in week is waste drugs nothing happens for some people an entire month

[beerY33]

If it were an addiction, that'd be a problem, and if they tried to push drugs on me, that'd also be a problem. If it were a once-in-a-while kind of thing, that'd be fine.

[ElijahCynicism]

No, read the *question*. These drugs aren't addictive chemically and very very rarely form a mental dependancy, and I said it's a ritual thing, once or twice a month, and not for recreational use.

[beerY33]

addiction in the sense that it gets in the way of their regular life. I know chemically speaking, it's hard to get addicted to some of those drugs, but it is possible for them to influence someone's lifestyle.

[ElijahCynicism]

Yeah, but, with ritual use, like... I dunno, I don't think I'll be able to get this across.

[beerY33]

meh yeah I'm not really sure what to think about ritual use

[beerY33]

I'd probably have to judge on a case by case basis

[ElijahCynicism]

Yeah. That's probably for the best, either way.

[Skandhanaut]

Psychedelics are anti-addictive.

[iXenomorph]

Just as long as you don't mess with my video games and metal, idgaf

[ManaX]

Lifestyle or not, drugs are drugs, no I wouldn't date someone who has a lifestyle like that.

[Lights]

Agree 100%

[Skandhanaut]

Drugs are certainly not drugs. Psychedelics are a brand apart, and much more useful and less dangerous that the legal drugs. This is not obscure knowledge, but something that is readily available to anyone who bothers to read up on the science before forming an opinion.

[ManaX]

Ha who needs to read it when you've seen what happens right in front of you. I have friends who take those drugs, I know exactly what they do and for how long the experience lasts etc. Don't be so quick to judge that just because I disagree I have no idea what i'm talking about.

[israelisevil]

Yah if they drink a lot or smoke weed a lot yah thats a lifestyle but not psychadellics. psychadellics like shrooms and lsd cause Ego death loss of sense of self and feelings of interconnectedness with world in a religous like experience. Every time i do shrooms or lsd I feel like i spend whole time thinking about god. Also psycadellics arnt addictive if you take them same week the second time nothing happens but you feel sick and wasted drugs. for a lot people not waiting a month between Shrooms or LSD will be a waste and they won't trip. Its very ignorant see shrooms and LSD in same negative light as drugs cause pleasure and addiction like Weed Alchohol Nicotine Cocaine

[israelisevil]

@Lights even psychadellics i understand not wanting date someone who drinks smokes cigarettes or even a pot smoker. But someone who does shrooms or lsd needs wait a week to month between each trip or nothing happens they dont trip they just feel uncomfortable. Dont put LSD and Shrooms in same drug category as alchohol and weed there far less harmful and addiction is impossible

[israelisevil]

Shrooms last 4 hours LSD lasts 16 hours the only danger of them is if you CHOOSE do other drugs like alchohol and weed.

[lamebabe]

Totally! I wish my boyfriend enjoyed psychedelics as much as I do:/ I'd love to date someone like that...if I were single again.

[Skandhanaut]

I wish I could find a psychedelic princess :)

[Anonymous]

Sure. A girl that doesn't go too crazy and only uses them occasionally. Marijuana is fine like alcohol if its used more often but shrooms/LSD only once in a while with strong psychedelics. Ever try dxm?

[ElijahCynicism]

No, what's DXM?

[Opinion Owner]

do google search erowid dxm. It's found in cough syrup. You can extract the dxm from it if you don't want all the fillers. Its psychedelic/disociative. I've had an out of body experience on it and freaked out in high doses its intense

[cun7n1nja]

Dxm is great, haha. A lot of people don't like it, but it was my drug of choice for a long time in my teen years. It's been a long time since I last did it, but I'd like to again sometime soon, for nostalgia's sake, if nothing else. =P

[Opinion Owner]

Yep crazy stuff. once I got past 600mg things got crazy I like around 300-400mg again it depends on bodyweight ... do your research before doing it.

[ElijahCynicism]

Oh! I know erowid. That's in Morning Glory seeds, right?

[Opinion Owner]

morning glory has LSA which is similar to LSD completely different. DXM is man made unfortunately whichever way you look at it. But hey it works.

[ElijahCynicism]

Ahh. Okay. That's interesting, I'll keep it in mind.

[cun7n1nja]

Exactly, research on that kind of thing as far as effects and dosing go are very important. I'm usually the go-to girl for people I know who are curious about it because I have so much experience with it under my belt and researched it thoroughly. I think my first dose was about 250-300mg, but once I read up and got comfortable with it in low doses, I was prepared to try higher doses. 500mg was my sweet spot, though I did take as much as 700-750mg at the highest. LSA is nice as well, subtle. =]

[Skandhanaut]

Sex on mushrooms. Take about 4 grams finely powdered, go through the initial blast and get rowdy with your partner about 1-1.5 hours in. Trust me on this :D

[israelisevil]

I love tripping with my girlfriend very connecting i wouldn't use any other type of drug besides psychadellics with exception weed

[skyeisblue]

No! Drugs are bad and addicting

[ElijahCynicism]

=[ et tu, brute?

[skyeisblue]

what?

[ElijahCynicism]

'Even you, Brutas?', it's from Julius Caesar, ahaha. I'm saying 'Even you?'.

[skyeisblue]

no, my mother would kill me! my uncle died from drugs XD I wouldn't want to date a person that's endangering their lives by doing them. sorry XD

[ElijahCynicism]

I'm not saying that because you're against drugs, I'm saying it because you're another person who isn't differentiating between the drugs and drug users that I'm actually asking about, and recreational drug users/addicts. The drugs I'm talking about aren't habit forming, aren't addictive and are almost impossible to overdose on, and the users in question take them every month or so.

[skyeisblue]

yeahhhh but still

[ElijahCynicism]

It's okay =] Does that mean.. You wouldn't date me? :O

[skyeisblue]

I have a boyfriend presently, but even if I was single...no XD

[ElijahCynicism]

=/ Awh...

[skyeisblue]

i'm sorry :(

[ElijahCynicism]

Haha, it's okay =]

[Skandhanaut]

There are many kinds of drugs. Psychedelics are not addictive, though, actually, many psychedelics are extremely effective at treating addiction.

LSD has been found to be an excellent cure for alcoholism, so much so that Bill Wilson (the found of AA) wanted to include it as a 13th step.

Ayahuasca is used very successfully in the treatment of crack- and meth-addicts in Brasil.

Iboga resets the limbic system, freeing opiate-addicts from withdrawal.

Psychedelic drugs do not allow for escape from whatever ails you. Trust me. And if you don't, look it up.

[jacquesvol]

Iboga? Fatalities following ibogaine ingestion are documented in the medical literature.[29] Lethal respiratory and cardiac effects are associated with use.[30]
Read :
en.wikipedia.org/.../Ibogaine How nice...

[jacquesvol]

Iboga? Ibogaine side effects and safety
One of the first noticeable effects of large-dose ibogaine ingestion is ataxia, a difficulty in coordinating muscle motion which makes standing and walking difficult without assistance. Xerostomia (dry mouth), nausea, and vomiting may follow.
Psychiatric medications are strongly contraindicated in ibogaine therapy due to adverse interactions. Some studies also suggest the possibility of adverse interaction with heart conditions. Sounds 'nice'. It gets 'nicer':

[israelisevil]

Lmfao yah alchohol cocaine even weed can be addictive. But what about psychadellics where you dont get pleasure intead you have a look at world without ego without sense of self or with a feeling of interconnectedness. Also you can't get addicted shrooms or LSD if you do second time in week nothing happens some people second time in month is waste of psychadellics as well. I understand why someone who has only drank or smoked weed would see them as addictive but in reality they dont give you pleasure they give you a strange understanding.

[madhatters4]

it's fine depending on the amount of usage