So as we all know, Obama loves Executive Orders. He's issued almost 930 of them since he took office in 2008. Unfortunately, he uses them to get his own way on things that Congress votes against him on, such as the D.R.E.A.M. act.
The recent massive shootings like the Colorado movie massacre and of course Sandy Hook have created a stir about the right to bear arms. There is an amendment in our Constitution (the supreme law of the United States of America) that allows us this right. There are is a stir that Obama will use an Executive Order to abolish this amendment and take gun ownership rights away from Americans.
What is this going to do to America and the interests of it's citizens? Because a couple mentally unfit people use guns to carry out large-scale killings, the mentally sane need to lose their rights as a result? How about those who have served America in the military and own guns, are you going to take away a right they fought for?
This President is out of control with control.
As a citizen, how do you feel about the President doing this?
Gun owners, how will you react if you have to surrender your guns?
Interesting that my question was taken down during "prime" user time and restored, but whatever.
People who are educated would know what happened during Prohibition, when a Democratic President decided to ban alcohol. Drinking didn't go away, crime went up, and it created tons of problems. That is until the repeal movement was started by a wealthy Republican, Pauline Sabin, who said that prohibition should be repealed because it made the US a nation of hypocrites.
Same goes with weed.
Weed is now legalized in several states and you've seen distribution centers in Washington robbed as a result and will make crime increase.
Now back to guns. You cannot take away the rights of someone without a fight being put up. It was Robert A. Heinlein who wrote: "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life". You aren't going to shoot someone who can shoot you back.
If you make it illegal, people will still get it somehow.
First off. I'd like to put it on the record here. That I will not surrender any of my weapons if they are made illegal. Just saying.
And I'm law abiding. So you think a criminal will turn in their guns? Nope. A gun is unusual in comparison to cyanide, a car, windex and a million other things in that it lasts pretty much forever.
So even if you outlaw the sale of guns, and even their manufacture. There will still be guns, and they will still be used.
Also. Libs like to say that "gun violence is higher in the US then places where guns aren't allowed" well quite. Sure that's true. But so what? Because violent crime, murder and real rape are significantly lower.
So Europeans don't have no guns. But they've still found other ways to hurt each other and... they seem to be better at it then us gun waving rednecks
I like my guns. My dad likes his guns. Everyone in my family shoots for fun. We're responsible gun owners. He can probably propose it, but I doubt Congress would agree. Also, if he does, it'll probably become like prohibition and not work.
I kinda agree with it to a certain degree. I don't think guns should be taken away because there definitely are responsible owners that shouldn't be punished. But at the same time getting a fun really isn't that difficult in certain areas and that needs to change. Something clearly needs to be done but taking away guns isn't the solution
I am simply going to say that he can Executive Order anything he wants... and he will try to do something here. If someone takes him to court, he could get overturned that way. I do not think Congress could actually do it. The Senate would support him, the House would not. So if he goes an EO route, it is going to depend on whether any group, and one know they will, take him to court. If they do, this could go all the way to the Supremes...
There's no way he's even considering that. He's too good of a statesman, a lame duck, and wants to make it as easy as possible for a Democrat to follow him in 2016. That sort of move would not serve his interests.
Plus the whole one man cannot abolish a constitutional right thing. The Supreme Court would overturn it fast enough to give Biden whiplash.
He may do something (AWB, hi cap mag ban, etc), but it will not be what you proposed and it will be open to challenges in the courts.
You're just trollin anyway, but it's worth mentioning that Boehner is less popular than cockroaches now... At least POTUS has a moderate level of approval.
That sentence makes me feel pretty disinterested in engaging in conversation, as this seems like a rhetorical exercise in sensationalism.
Yes, a national conversation about American gun ownership (legal and illegal) is happening.
Yes, the president (recently reelected) has made this a platform issue for his office.
Yes, the 2nd amendment of the Bill of Rights deeply entrenches a protected interest in the right to bear arms.
There are far more interesting conversations to have than an abolition of the 2nd amendment.
That would be the least effective way to accomplish the goals of the administration. It would turn into a political power struggle that would be a waste of resources and great minds.
However, you can expect your guns and ammunition to be taxed. You can expect the access at gun shows to be challenged. You can expect regulations about what kinds of weaponry can be sold in this country to be enforced and enhanced.
Also, it's not just the president doing this. He is certainly the most powerful political and administrative person in this country, but he's not executing his whims here. There is a very loud constituency of educated and considerate American citizens who are very concerned with this policy. And that constituency is a spectrum of people, with a spectrum of goals and ideas.
It's pretty reductive to call this OBAMA v The Constitution
Our founding fathers gave us that right for a reason,the rights given to us in the bill of rights are ones they believed were needed for our country to be run right. Taking them away is not the right idea.
I would hope they abolish the second amendment. There is no reason for ANYONE to have a gun. I still maintain that the only people who should be allowed to carry are the police and only while on duty, and same with the armed forces. However, once they have civilian status, they should not be allowed to have them.
Gun control is the belief that the woman found raped and strangled to death with her own pantyhose is somehow morally superior to the woman explaining to the cops why her attacker took three shots the chest and is dead on the ground.