I'm just curious. Quite frankly the going tit for tat with people of differnt beleifs is annoying and hack to me. By now it seems we acknowlege that we all have different beleifs and move on.
There seems to be this constant struggle between atheists and religious people.
It seems each side sometimes is eager to verbally or morally attack the other. Sometimes the attacks seem unwaranted and unessary.
For example if god isn't being discussed, I don't see any reason to stir up trouble by pushing the discussion on someone else, or poke fun at someones beleifs/values.
So my question is can we really ever get along? What would It take? Just total silence on certain issues? Or are we just do differnt and opposing?
Reguardless of which side fall on there seems to be inherent arrogance. It just seems a bit annoying and pointless to argue the issue.
So what do you think?
Btw not sure why this is under sexuality...that was a mistake.
I see a bunch of answers saying "Yes just don't ever bring it up." Yeah that solves it I guess but realistically It will come up eventually. I think such beleifs are part of who a person is, not all, but part. People should be on a lvl where they can discuss these things at least once, explain themselves with maturity and respect, and move on.
Aslong as people cannot respect others viewpoints and stop trying to force their own agenda then no, religious people and atheists or agnostic will never get along. Neither will those of different religions
Lol I like this question. I am a Christian and didn't get along with my liberal friends because I always felt like they just stepped on my beliefs or just totally disagreed with them and I guess I found it offensive. Just being honest. And we did have debates but I couldn't really agree with them. There's a Bible verse that says
"How can two people walk together unless they agree?" somewhere along those lines and it's about friendship. You can be friends with atheists and unbelievers but sometimes you'll disagree with them or they will disagree with you. Its just your conscious or lack thereof. I dunno...
But do I believe that people can still respect each other? Yes. But will we be completely alike? No.
honestly..I don't think it's right for Christian or atheist to look down on one another.. and even as a Christian I am offended at some stuff that unbelievers do.. but I don't really shove my religion down their throat... and I think in general.. everyone on Youtube bickers.. I see people fighting not even about religion but everybody in our society (especially) online wants to point a finger
like "Your wrong!" or "your an idiot" just look at Youtube everyone fights nowadays constantly online xD and everyone wants to blame and start a war even if it isn't over religion but something as small as an OPINION or music preference
I'm very religious but have atheist friends. The difference is that we respect one another for being able to have our own opinions and ideals. If we get into a discussion and it starts to get heated, one of us simply says "I don't think we're going to see eye to eye", and the other backs down. Then we switch to some other conversation.
You don't have to agree, but people need to respect others for their ability to form their own opinions.
I'm religious, but I don't like to talk about religion unless I'm in church or talking with other religious (or calm) people (even if they don't follow my doctrine). But I will defend my viewpoints if people find it necessary to harass me about them. I just don't see why they do.
The bible talks about this, and it says to not harden your heart to them, but not to have a close relationship with them.. Some people think it mean they can't have anything to do with them... but I think that we could get along..
Well someone I once considered a best friend was an atheist when we first met and I'm Catholic. I can pretty much get along with anyone regardless of their background though. I can talk to an atheist about our differences in the same way I can talk to a Roman Orthodox. As long as people aren't beating each other over their beliefs, or trying to convert them we should be fine.
I think we can get along, as long as we don't bring it up :/
Most people cannot have a logical discussion about it, and quite reasonably, because someone always ends up having their beliefs offended. I think religion is just a topic to always steer clear of, then we can all get along with our lives and be happy.
Of course we can. It's only the zealots and extremists on either end that have the problems getting along. I am an Atheist and I can't get along with the Atheists that push their belief on others or make fun of others for their belief. It goes against my core belief of live and let live.
i think we can as long as you dnt bring that topic up about God. rem there are diff people in this world. you believe in your God. we believe in ours. some dnt believe. its not up to you to change that belief or think that if people dnt believe in God or your good that they'll hv something bad happen to them . That's just wrong. Let it be. embrace the difference. for all you know you myt just start seeing a new perspective to life by hearing what they gta say. :) live your life for yourself and one day maybe there will be a situation wen some atheists might just start believing in God cos a life changing event occurred. we can never tell :)
I'm neither of those, but I've been able to be friends with atheist and religious people. I don't see the big deal as long as they don't bring that subject up often. Then again I'm not really passionate when it comes to this subject.
Well recently I had this conversation with this guy I like about relegion. I am agnosic (leaning athiest) and he is religouis but we actualy agree on most moral isuses. I think that religious people and atheists can get along well if we both respect the vaule of each others opinions.
personally, I don't care who's religious or athiest. I think those who don't get along are those who feel the need to hate and judge the other based on their own belief so therefore they can't get along as they feel that they Need to be enemies since theyre so different or something like that. I think if people stop giving a damn about others' businesses, then none of them would feel the need to not get along, but I don't think that's possible considering that there's too many people and there's bound to be ones who are like this.
I thought that political/religious views were not a big deal if you really cared about someone, but in my experience it actually can be. My ex-boyfriend started going on and on about how I was a bad person because I believe in gay marriage and am not really into religion... It can be a big stumbling block.
I'm a moderately religious person came from a conservative family,we pray a lot. But I have a lot of atheist friends and I'm fortunate I live in a community where any type of religions or beliefs are well accepted. My parents raised me to respect others and I pray before I eat even though I'm eating out and my atheists friends they did ask about me and there are questions that I'm able to answer but some I just leave it a blank space. But we have never cross each other path because it's just unnecessary as long as they respect my religion I'll be fine if they don't then I'm sorry to say I cannot change who they are,they just hate me because of my religion. But I rather listen to people and deliberate whatever they were saying and then yeah do more of a self reflect on myself. If they attack me like hitting me then I'm just going to tell the authorities.
In conclusion we need to throw our ego away and start listening to others rather that talking crap and acting without thinking. But unfortunately humanity we are far to proud of ourselves and we just hate it when people talking bad things about us and we don't tolerate rudeness that much. Compromising one another is the key in this whole situation here.
The reason why atheists and "religious folk" have problems getting along is...because for one, just about every religion have a focus on spreading their faith to bring others to their religious point of view, usually called "witnessing".
To be honest, the attitude of most atheists I know tend to look on religion with a bit of an abrasive attitude...as in they BECAME atheists to SPITE religion. Well, at least the most vocal atheists tend to be that way.
Sure, why not? I'm one the only atheists in my country... Serbian people are pretty closed-minded and our mindset is "Not christian - not Serbian"... I'm the only one that's brave enough to believe in nothing at all...
I'm an agnostic atheist and I agree with you when the issue is outside the realm of politics or education. As long as religion doesn't influence politics or public schools I see no reason to talk about it at all. In fact most of the time I never think about religion or any of the Gods people believe in. It's a complete nonentity in my life. I just wish society would change in the sense that when I do announce that I lack a particular belief system I'm not either frowned upon or almost shunned by certain family members and people. That and the whole politics/public education thing are the only things that can get my blood boiling at times.
It would be nice if we could leave each other to our own business but most people feel that EVERYONE should believe what they believe in and will infringe on other people's freedoms to do so. It's a sad world we live in but it's the only one we have and the only way we can make it better is by coexisting! :)
True followers of Christianity aren't suppose to judge so it shouldn't be a problem for them. Other reiligion, I'm not so sure. Personally, I follow Christ but am interested in other religions. Athiest don't bother me but most athiest I've met or heard tend to be rather close-minded and very disrespectful about others' faith. I say it's definently possible, just needs some work.
I don't have a problem with people believing whatever they want. I'm a "hard" agnostic atheist, and I still go to church, if only to, as my girlfriend puts it, know my enemy.
My problem is with organised religion, because of the assumption that their beiefes can be used to regulate what I do.
The BIG issue is the vocal minority of religions are those who try to force their beliefs on the rest of the world. Like the anti-gay marriage crew who object to it on religious grounds. Or that in the UK the parliament has s set number of seats reserved for bishops. Things like that.
Atheism may occasionally be expressed in an offensive manner, and the most vocal of them tend to be objectionable, often. But The difference is they don't usually say "This is the way things should be," because it's hard to base laws etc on a LACK of scripture.
Atheists generally don't know what they are professing themselves to believe in because they don't generally even know what "atheism" truly is and often try to change its meaning to more resemble agnosticism. Its a rather arrogant and dogmatic position as it is so I couldn't expect this to hold any logical debate.
Atheist - (definition) One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods. link
Agnostic (definition) - a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism link
Atheism is someones own materilistic world view bias that doesn't hold any logical ground. its fine to say "i don't believe a god can exist" but to claim to be an atheist is irrational. If we divuldge what atheism literally means. We have to look at its root word "atheos" from greek which literally means "denial of god". To disbelieve in something, is to have refusal or reluctance to believe in something" link a lot of modern interpretations of atheism are quite the contrary to its meaning but they don't come from its literal rooted meaning.
I think most theists do get along fine with atheists. but the position of an atheist is a more confrontational arrogant position. to be a strong "atheist" means someone has to have strong disbelief in god and therefore have issues with someone who expresses a contrary opinion. A Christian that expresses their love for God and prays in a public place isn't doing it to attack anyone, it is a natural part of their self expression. As is carrying a small cross around their neck, it is a part of their belief that isn't targeting anyone. Expressive atheism on the other hand, is to be shouting a strong dogmatic position that there isn't a God, which is highly confrontational and condescending position that is asking to be targeted because their position is attacking someones self expression of free will and identity.
Sadly I live in a country where it is abnormal to be a christian and its a country like all of the west that was built on christinaity. I can't express my faith without looking like a strange freak and having people express a patronizing position against me. People who have no clue about christianity but watch a lot of sam harris and richard dawkins have come to the conclusion that we believe science is our enemy and try to claim science for their belief in nothing.
Atheists made me arrogant. Basically if you say you are a christian, people support the idea that you are professing to being an idiot which is insulting! I have become more arrogant over time because of this and I feel it is neccessary if I want to hold my position I have to debate it