As a guy I find this offensive...

[Tomsta]

I saw a post on facebook this morning saying the following:

Guys nowadays don't want a girlfriend, they just want someone to pretend to be a girlfriend while he goes off with other women.

Now I find this really offensive and very stereotypical. Especially as there were a lot of people that were agreeing with said post. Well i'm going to say something that's rather controversal. Girls when all you do is go after this type of guy you have no-one to blame but YOURSELF

Granted some genuine guys can turn douchy, we as a gender are by no means perfect. but i've noticed that the vast majoirty of girls that say this are the type of girls that always go after this kind of guy and then cry to thier bestie when it doens't work out.

Take a long look in the mirror ladies (You know who i'm reffering to you here) if you're constantly going after guys like that (i believe the socially acceptable term here is 'douche' or 'jerk') then the only person to blame here is yourself and not the guy (not saying the guy is off the hook, he is still a dick for doing this but don't put all the blame on him).

I'm not saying i'm perfect either i've made mistakes along the way during my life (a few in the dating world) yet i'm still a genuine guy ... so girls there are 'nice' guys out there. You just need to stop going for your class a douche and actually start looking for someone different. Stop taking the easy route out.

Thus endith the rant.

[Mesonfielde]

I think if someone believes that their partner will inherently end up cheating on them, that is a "self-fulfilling prophecy" as I am pretty sure I would not want to date someone who is controlling, distrustful, jealous, accusing, and delusional.

As for the "genuine nice guys" part, you still have to be an attractive individual, both in terms of looks and personality. Being "nice" is just one aspect. Being interesting and feeling satisfied just by being around them is a completely different one.

[ArchDruidMordred]

Doesn't excuse when they bitch about a guy she knew would hurt her.

[Mesonfielde]

@ArchDruidMordred I don't know anyone like that in real life so far. Are you sure that is common?

[CapricornSwagL]

@ArchDruidMordred Who say she would know? Most boys DO pretend to be good guys, are you not aware :/

[GirlsLie]

The thing most of those women don't tell you is they were probably dating guys who were jerks in the first place but insisted on trying to change them. So instead of taking responsibility for their own bad decisions, they would rather generalize an entire gender.

[Tomsta]

However we guys do that to girls as well...

[GirlsLie]

Of course but this was related to men lol

[CapricornSwagL]

OR they had a FEW boyfriends that pretended to be a good boyfriend then showed his true colors later after it was too late. Then they FINALLY got tired of being played so decided to help other girls so they can SEE the light and watch out

[GirlsLie]

OR they could just not get involved with men so quickly, so they don't risk the chance of his true colors showing later. Or they could learn from their last mistake, not their 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

[CapricornSwagL]

@GirlsLie Who said they got into a relationship too quickly? You know most guys CAN pretend to be good to get what they want right?:/ Or are you too... set on your own beliefs to actually think about it? You act as if a woman should predict if a guy is good or bad. What world in your head do you live in? We're in a day where most men will look at this one good girl, watch her moves, learn about her, learn her emotions, and play them against her. Do you not understand that? :/

"Or they could learn from their last mistake, not their 2nd, 3rd, 4th."

I'm sure most women that gave up and are lesbians are happy after being played probably the first time. The ones that try again doesn't want to give up on men even after being fucked around (emotionally). Wow, they're soo forgiving to actually try again... hmm

[GirlsLie]

I said "most" because I realize that some men/people are just completely inexcusable in the way that they treat others. I'm also not defending people who treat others bad in relationships.

But I don't think it's ok to generalize an entire gender based on your person experiences. Especially when you're an adult and you can choose to not let someone walk all over you, you can choose to not get too heavily involved with someone if they treat you like trash or you don't know them well enough and you can choose to leave as soon as it begins to happen.

I realize that sometimes there are no signs and some people just manage to fuck others over but I bet that is not the case the majority of the time. And it still doesn't mean that all men are that way.

[CapricornSwagL]

"Especially when you're an adult and you can choose to not let someone walk all over you, you can choose to not get too heavily involved with someone if they treat you like trash or you don't know them well enough and you can choose to leave as soon as it begins to happen."

1. People dont choose to have someone mess over them. Who would want that?
2. If the person is really good at pretending how can the person possibly know huh?

"but I bet that is not the case the majority of the time. And it still doesn't mean that all men are that way."

How could you possibly KNOW that? You dont know every man and woman in the world to know.

Also, I don't judge men as a whole but I DO realized they aren't how prefect you're making them out to be

[GirlsLie]

People choose that all of the time and that's exactly why i'm questioning it. Almost all of the women I know who are with losers, were with them when they were losers from the start and just didn't have enough self respect to leave them. It's fine the first time but if you're constantly attracting losers, then it's probably you and the decision you're making about letting certain people into your life.

If you bother to read what I said, I never once said men were innocent, you just have a chip on your shoulder and see what you want to see.

[CapricornSwagL]

"if you're constantly attracting losers, then it's probably you and the decision you're making about letting certain people into your life."

How are they the problem? People dont choose who's gonna try to play them. And I bet after the person got into their hearts, it's hard to leave (which I think is stupid but can you blame them. The guy started it)

"If you bother to read what I said, I never once said men were innocent, you just have a chip on your shoulder and see what you want to see."

Seriously? You specially said the women are dating jerks (as if you knew the guys didn't pretend to be a good boyfriend at first)
And you said "So instead of taking responsibility for their own bad decisions, they would rather generalize an entire gender" (As if you knew the guys where not playing the girls)

Overall you're making them sound innocent, like guys can't pretend to be a good guy to lure a girl in then drop her after getting what they want smh

[GirlsLie]

Come on, have you never seen people in a relationship with a loser and everyone tells her that he's a loser and she continues on until he breaks her heart, that's happened to 99% of the women I know lol. I'm not excusing the fact that people shouldn't treat others poorly in relationships but i'm also not excusing the fact that as a woman, you need to wise the hell up when it comes to who you're dating if you keep falling for these types of men over and over.

I almost said "most" not "all". And it still makes no sense to generalize an enter gender regardless of your experiences with them.

As far as men being innocent.
" probably dating GUYS who were JERKS in the first place"
"were with them when they were LOSERS from the start and just didn't have enough self respect to leave them"

[GirlsLie]

almost=also*

[FatherJack]

It's complete twats of BOTH genders that fuck everything up for all the decent people... I've had dealings with...& had relationships with nightmare women , I've had a chunk bitten out of my shoulder by an ex , many years back... I found out too late she had severe anger issues & I instantly dumped her after that incident... still have a trace of a scar after 20+ years

[GirlsLie]

It's definitely both genders. And I say the same thing to the guys who come on here whining endlessly about women who take advantage of them, calling all women gold diggers or sluts etc. Take some personal responsibility next time and be careful, stop generalizing the entire female gender negatively because you keep letting bad people into your life over and over.

[OlderAndWiser]

Anytime you make generalizations about an entire gender, you create a situation in which you can do things to ensure that you "prove" the generalizations are true (like continuously saying "no" to the good guys and "yes" to the bad boys) and then you have an excuse to feel sorry for yourself. This proves, once again, the old adage: you get what you go looking for.

I try not to affiliate with these types of women and I consider this behavior a warning sign which should be heeded.

[sdistotallyme]

I agree about the generalizations sir. However our generation is plagued with feminism and political correctness. Young men have been conditioned in a way to behave in a way women say they want... but don't really want.

[OlderAndWiser]

@sdistotallyme Yes, I have some bias in this matter, but it seems to me that your generation has developed several means of avoiding dealing with the emotional aspect of relationships. They text to say "I like you" instead of calling or saying it in person, they ask for a date in a text message, and they break up by changing their status on Facebook. They have friends with benefits - "no feelings!" - instead of developing relationships. Even in my generation, it was difficult to determine what women really wanted, but your generation has it even worse.

[sdistotallyme]

Modern technology and social media has certainly made our generation less confrontational. I believe there is an innate fear in humans when it comes to confrontations and textings/facebook posts/snapchat etc has just enabled that fear. Sometimes is about convenience but at other times people are too scared to have a real conversation.

[CapricornSwagL]

"Girls when all you do is go after this type of guy you have no-one to blame but YOURSELF"

That is bullshit wrong and you know it. If a guy is PRETENDING to be good, OF COURSE most girls (probably all that doesn't have trust issues YET) WILL trust this guy. He's pretending to be a prefect boyfriend to lure her in. Get into her emotions, pretend to care so she'll have sex with him then he dump her like trash. Stop acting like most boys like this doesn't exist!

"You just need to stop going for your class a douche and actually start looking for someone different."

Why would any girl that wants a SERIOUS relationship look for a guy like this? :/ doesn't make sense. The girls that wonna have fun, hell yeah but I am not looking for some guy to f me then leave. Maybe after the whole virgin thing is over but for now all I am looking for is a trust worthy long term boyfriend to care about me and give my virginity to but noooo guys wonna pretend to care about me and I believe them. The first sign of 'only in this for sex though' I am GONE. So damn gone

[Albinoninja66]

I'very seen dozens of cases where what he said is correct. Plenty of girls date guys that are obviously jerks. They don't even hide it.

[CapricornSwagL]

@Albinoninja66 Yes but only for girls that want to have fun and or are insecure. Not girls like me (at least while I am still a virgin). After a couple times of that (with a good boyfriend and we may breakup later) THEN I'll have fun. Not sure what type of guy it'll be yet but it'll be a guy that wants to have fun too. he have to have some want (able) traits though

[jormungand]

smoe girls and guys are just pain stupid

[CapricornSwagL]

@jormungand Agreed 100%

[jormungand]

some*

[asiag299]

I absolutely agree with this! Most girls are always crying about a jerk who broke her heart and I'm just so sick of it. How can you expect anything more than a broken heart when you keep choosing the same type of guy or running back to the old guy. Then once that happens they make all these posts on Facebook, IG, etc bashing every guy for the guys that did her wrong. The excuse is always "I didn't know" but in reality how could you not know? I don't care how charming a guy is I can tell when he's not worth my time! Most of the time you can tell if a guy is genuine or not by his attitude and by observing his actions when he's not around you. That way you know if he's being nice because he wants something from you or if he's genuinely interested in you. A guy's actions and attitude when he's not around you can really tell you a lot. You could also look at past failed relationships I'm not saying stay away from him because of that (although I would) but that should also factor into your decision. If he's cheated on his past 6 girlfriends why wouldn't he cheat on you? Granted the girlfriends could've have done something but the fact remains that he could've just ended the relationship without cheating. Ladies it's time to stop falling for every "charming" or "nice" guy who spews you pretty words!

[iamyourneighbor]

This answer made sense until you said "by observing his actions when he's not around you"
How do you look at a guy when he's not in front of you? Is there some super power you have that gives to you the ability to see people who are not there?

[asiag299]

@iamyourneighbor lol sorry I phrased that wrong what I meant was to see how he acts around his friends or other girls :) Does that make any sense?

[CapricornSwagL]

OR maybe those women that are making those post had bfs like this--> Pretended to be a good boyfriend then showed his true colors. Ever think of that

[asiag299]

@CapricornSwagL Well that's plausible as well but you can only pretend to be what your not for so long and the signs are almost always there.

[CapricornSwagL]

@asiag299 Tf lol. Are you being serious right now? I'm soo serious like fr. I know some girls that was virgin. Good girls. They got a boyfriend that pretended to be a good boyfriend, I mean sweet af. Been together for a while too. After getting their virginity, GONE. One admitted to it being a game, admitted to cheating on her, told everyone EVERYTHING. He was a good ass pretender even I was fooled. The other girls was a different story but definitely similar. Long story short my friend tried to commit suicide because his bitch ass played with her emotions throughout the entire relationship. What sicko does that? A lot of guys I tell you. Glad her brothers fucked him up, bet he won't be playing any other girls :)

[asiag299]

@CapricornSwagL i know that scenarios like this exist and are real I'm just saying that while they happen they aren't as common as the other situations I mentioned or that the guy who wrote this mentioned. That guy seriously needed his butt handed to him I'm glad her brothers handled that! That guy was obviously a psychopath that gets off on some sick stuff. All I'm saying is the majority of girls run towards the heart breaker and that guy is a lot more common then the sicko you mentioned. Now if we were talking about all guys in general then the sick guy who fakes nice would be mentioned but for this particular post he mentions the guy you can automatically point out as a heart breaker not the one who hides behind the mask. The problem is a lot of girls want the heart breaker so that they can "tame" him. In the end they get their feelings hurt and take it out on other guys who are genuinely nice and interested in a commuted relationship.

[CapricornSwagL]

Some girls do want heart breakers to tame but not all. Girls that just wonna have fun want them too because they to are heart breakers themselves. I understand what you're saying though

[asiag299]

@CapricornSwagL I'm glad you understand lol I have hard time wording stuff right sometimes but I'm glad we're on the same page for two topics in a row! :)

[CapricornSwagL]

Two topics?

And you're doing fine. I understood you well. I am the one that have problems with it lol. My mind is crazy. I have sooo much to say and it makes sense in my head, I just have a problem typing it out. Especially when I am upset lol

[thedevilwithin]

Luckily i've never been cheated on (that i know of lol), but I've met a lot of very different men who are the player type. Some are my friends, others are acquaintances. Some are all abs, others rock the dad bod. Some are wealthy others are piss poor. They all dress differently, have different interests and come from different backgrounds.
One dude was telling me how he was taking this girls out on this amazingly planned date (very unique, cool and romantic) and how the last date he went on was at a soup kitchen. Turns out it was two different girls, both of whom he admitted to leading on. Now this dude didn't look like a player, didn't seem like one, he likes classic literature, talks about the importance of giving blah blah blah...
A guy i knew from high school, would randomly Facebook message chicks (like my bestie) flirt and try to hook up. He has a serious girlfriend, who he says it's okay to cheat on because he's a guy, but if she were to cheat it would be over cause she's a girl. The dude works as a builder likes football and to party on weekends.
I can give you descriptions of others, but you get my point.
I agree that not all guys are like this.
You have every right to be upset at the generalization.
But to suggest that there is a "type" of guy that cheats, that's easy to spot isn't true.
People cheat for many reasons, some don't even consider what they do cheating... it's no-ones fault.

[Ivanafoster1212]

Most of the time you can't tell if the guy is a douche... you think he will announce it? No... he's gonna be just like the nice guy over in your science class and charm his way into your heart.. and you can't reject every charming guy cause he might just be a douche... if you did youd never find the true guy and you'd just come off as overly cautious and defensive. And usually the bad guys (not all!!) are the ones wih all the confidence unfortuantly and the ones to grab our attention. The nice guys do nothing. Even if we show him were interersted or even tell him in the most obvious way he still won't do anything... or theyre already with someone.

Of course if you find out the guy is a bad then its your fault for knowing and not getting out of the relationship.

[abacaxi84]

Yes the "it's your own fault for picking the same kind of guy" comments really, really grate. There is no way of telling whether a guy is going to be an arsehole until you get involved with him. The last guy I got involved with was a guy who I had been friends with for a few years -- he was not what I would normally go for : quite shy geeky, your stereotypical nice guy. I gave it a chance, once he expressed an interest in me, as I realised that I had lots in common with him, etc. Cutting the story short - once he finally got me into bed and I had begun to reciprocate an interest in him, he went cold and turned his attention to another woman.
This guy was basically a player masquerading as a geeky nice guy.
There is no way of spotting men who want to use your for sex. The only thing you can control is whether you're going to be a doormat and play out the F-W-B thing in the hope that you can change the guy's mind, or instead have some self respect and cut the guy off immediately.

[Ivanafoster1212]

@abacaxi84 True! I agree.

[thera]

lol it's not every single time that you can spot who's gonna be a dick-bag, and who is gonna be an upstanding guy. They don't walk around with "hey I'm a cheating trifling douche" plastered on their foreheads. Some, you may have some inkling of by their reputation if you know them well enough, but not all the time. How do you even blame chicks for going for "that type of guy", when it's not like girls have a crystal ball that predicts the future? A guy could know every symphony Mozart ever created, talk to you about science and literature, be trilingual, be the smartest, most polite and clean-cut person on earth, and still be a cheater and a douche. And dont even lemme get started on that "nice guy" stuff, bc sometimes its those "nice guys" that suddenly turn into the meanest people once rejected. Just chill out and stop letting facebook quotes work you up.

[Ivanafoster1212]

^ So true!!!

[PinkFG]

I dated a guy who looked nothing like a douche.
He was quiet, and shy, nerdy, not a lot of friends.

And in the end he was still a douche who wanted to mess around.
You can never spot these guys because they show their true colors when its too late.

[PinkFG]

The whole "I'm a nice guy" is even more despicable than the blatant douche

[sjoes006]

Yeah the ones that lie to your face. 😕

[XRabbitHeartX]

This.

Majority of the guys who has ever ended up hurting me real bad were the ones who seemed like great decent guys from the start. You think you know someone and then... :(

[JuicyBrain]

@XRabbitHeartX @sjoes006
Did this guy ever identify himself as a nice guy @pinkfg? Maybe he was just "a guy". After all, what is a nice guy? How far does a nice guy has to go in terms of selflessness and altruism to keep his nice guy badge. How much must he forget about himself before he can start enjoying the perks of having a girlfriend? What if your expectations about what a nice guy is was a bit too high?

[XRabbitHeartX]

@JuicyBrain

A nice guy is a guy who wouldn't hurt their partner willingly, cheat, lie and lead girls on for fun. That's a nice guy to me. Someone who is genuine, sincere and loving. There are guys out there like that. It's not "impossible" or unrealistic. Some guys come into your life acting like they are nice (by my definition at least) and tell you how sincere they are and how they are different and won't hurt/use you. Most girls get tricked like that thinking the guy's intentions are pure and then in the end we get burned. It's not like these "bad' guys came into my life treating me like dirt from the start.

[sjoes006]

@JuicyBrain I don't know of any guy to call himself a nice guy and the ones that think of themselves that way usually aren't, they are passive aggressive. I was mainly more thinking of the type that knows they don't want a serious relationship but pretend they do to get sex on the regular. They say what they need to say, buy you flowers, meet your family and are dating other women the whole time and saying they aren't. It has never happened to me but it happens a lot.

[PinkFG]

@sjoes006 exactly

[DessieDoo]

Women who think all men are like this are just pathetic. I know plenty of men who would love to settle down with the right woman. However, good women (or people in general) are so hard to come by these days. But like you said, its because they are going after the same type of guy. Sorry but if you put yourself out there to be a side bitch, don't expect him to make you a house wife.

[ReneDS]

agree with you, i did a lot of stuff for my ex girlfriend, paying a lot of things, thinking about her daughter as well, and she just took everything for granted. fine she is 32 , im 27, if she wants to go partying and act like a 16 yo, go ahead, im looking for someone to settle down with, i thought a 32 yo woman wanted that but no, she rather gets wasted every weekend, hang around with 11 year younger kids. she walks on cruches, so i dont even understand how she can treat me like a piece of sh. t , im not bad looking, i work, i pay my own bills, etc... im loving, loyal and she just treats me like im wirthless person. 3 days ago she dumped me, because it was the first time i spoke out about her hurting my feelings. she threw out my stuff , let me sit there with tears and shuts the door. tomorrow we see each other, i dont know what she wants from me. im not expecting an apologzy just a bunch of accquisitions , but anyway ill go there with good hopes.

[DessieDoo]

@ReneDS she sounds like a real piece of work. I am sorry you have to deal with that.

[skykidx1]

If your ex wants you back make her work for... there is no reason what so ever you should have been treated like this.

[FatherJack]

@ReneDS Bin her !! She clearly doesn't give a flying one about you , she's taking the piss !!

[ReneDS]

@skykidx1 she treated me like crap, for example, i was cutting her fence after i came home from work, i paced to her house. a female friend of her was there, and i saw that she made her and her friend a smoothie with the things i bought her the day before. so i was sweating, dirty and working my ass off for her, while she was socializing. do you even think i got something from her, no smoothie, not even a glas of water. it made me feel horrible. then we finally had some alone time, she decided she wanted to go to sleep next to me on the sofa. awesome right, so thats were the argument started. if she sends me home at 23:00 the day before, stays awake all night, has some friends over at 04:30, then misses an apointment with her client. ofcourse im upset and hurt. it made me feel really worthless. so i spoke out, after calling my mom, she said it was a shame ! tomorrow i see her, ;ets see

[ReneDS]

@FatherJack i know, she took me for granted, and i did a lot of stuff for her, stuff her wonderfull friends just walked by, like cutting her fence, buying a hell of grouceries, playing with her kid, paying for her gas tank because her card didn't work. a whole lot of stuff, making vouchers for her, she works in the beauty segment. what i got in return wasn't too much, but i dont mind, as long as she is happy, but i got a lot of shit in return, when she drinks, she just can't stop. if i put 4 bottles of rum in front of her, she will drink them all in one night, after that becomes this obnicious unfriendly person who thinks everything is fun, even her friends seeing me with my pants down, because she didn't tell me they would come over, annoying me till 06:00 in the morning, if they had some commen descency they wouldn't even come, because i wanted to go to bed with her. yes she can be sweet , fun and stuff but its not what im remembering right now. i adore her little daughter as well.

[ReneDS]

maybe thats one of the few reason i stay, yes i like her, and yes she attractive but her daughter asked 3 times if i could sleep over, not even once she asked me to stay. that little girl, really has an idiot as father, who thinks he is kurt cobain, who doesn't evej buy his daughter a decent bed when she is with him. she sleeps on a matras on the ground, fucking moron, if that was my little girl, i would sell my bed, sleep on the cold floor and buy the best fucking bed in the world. but ok, i do lots of stuff with her daughter, reading, practicing on her bicycle. i would really miss that little girl, and her ofcourse , but ok, she prefers to lvie the life of a 16 yo while she is 32. one day she figures out that she made a big mistake letting a guy like me go

[DessieDoo]

@ReneDS some women don't see the good that they have in front of them. They take everything for granted. Don't let her ignorance slide. Make her work for it. You deserve that. She doesn't sound like much of a woman at all, sadly. Its women like her who give all of us a bad name.

[ReneDS]

sometimes we want something and when we have it, we just don't know to appreciate it. I'm a great guy, yes i have my flaws but i make my girlfriend, all my loved ones , a priority,, there is nothing on this world i wouldn't do for them. If i had to die for them i would. And she as a 32 yo women, mother of a 4,5 yo daughter, should understand that, especially in her situation. She is walking on cruches, and maybe in the future can only move by means of a wheelchair. i think she looks beautifull and i dont mind those features. she needs to learn that she is 32, and that she can have fun without drinking, without hanging around with kids. she is living in the moment not focussing on the future. no true, you see when i was cutting her fence, i thought, if she was a real women who values her guy, she would have come to me , told me, honey i made you a drink inside, come take a break. that would have made me feel awesome, and its just a simple gesture. thanks for your kind words !

[CapricornSwagL]

Yeah and good guys are hard to come by these day too

[DessieDoo]

@ReneDS exactly! A woman who values her man will make him feel appreciated no matter what. And @CapricornSwagL this post was about women being ignorant. And as I stated above, good people are hard to come by. Both men and women are becoming more selfish and self absorbed as the days pass. Especially women. That is my opinion and based off my own personal experience. Women think they are superior and their men should act like slaves to please them but do absolutely nothing in return. They don't show appreciation because they have "come too far" in society. Yes, we have rights now. But does that really give any woman the right to stop showing their appreciation to their man? Does that really give any woman the right to sit there and make out like they are far more superior and deserve better treatment? No, it doesn't. And speaking from a very unbiased point of view, where I am a bisexual and like both sexes, women have turned into self righteous bitches. Women think they have it rough.

[CapricornSwagL]

" this post was about women being ignorant"

How the hell are they being ignorant by trying to help other women out? If these guys are pretending to get into the girls pants, why wouldn't a good woman want to encourage other women to "look out for these types of guys". Women that care about other women do this. Only self hating women will look down on another woman for trying to help women. And in this day in age lots of women are hating women, pity on them

Lmao You're a woman but you're hating on women thinking we're all selfish without saying the fact that most guys can be selfish too. No one is more selfish than the other. It depends on the person

"Women think they are superior and their men should act like slaves to please them but do absolutely nothing in return."

You're showing how much of a sexist you are lol

Lastly first of all women and men have it rough but I personally believe women do

Agree to disagree I guess smh

[DessieDoo]

@CapricornSwagL You are calling me sexist yet you show a lot of hostility yourself. I don't believe women have it rough at all. Women get far better treatment than any man I know. Women can beat, abuse, rape, and treat their men like shit and get praised for it. Men do anything to a woman, even so much as calling her a bitch and that same woman showing that abuse toward that man whom retaliated will be seen as the victim. I am a men's activist. Do I believe there should be equality? Well... Yeah. But that's not what is going on at all. Women have far exceeded any limitations of "equality". I'm sorry but I will sit here any defend men in 90% of any case scenerio because where I am from (granted this isn't some places) men are walked on and bashed on a daily basis. My state is made up of a bunch of women that claim to be feminists yet hold up signs stating that all men are no good rapists. Fuck that. I will stand by men all day every day.

[CapricornSwagL]

How the hell am I being hostile? I am pointing out facts to you for hating women. And yes I do dislike women haters but still. But I can say there's no help for a woman like you, you're too far gone. You even believe women are treated better smh. I dont know where women like you come from

[DessieDoo]

@CapricornSwagL Women are treated better. You believe what you will and I will believe what I want. To each their own.

[CapricornSwagL]

We aren't but fine. Agree to disagree

[TheDevilInside]

I agree with your point, but to be fair, tons of guys on gav also make such mind numbingly stupid accusations about ALL girls that they swear on the name of the spaghetti meatball monster is true. Take the today's featured question, for example. So. much. stupidity. Homer Simpson brain.

[JuicyBrain]

All hail the great pasta master.
*secret pastafarian handshake*
Hello to you sister !
lol

[Dragonblood21]

Just a salty girl being salty, and other salty girls agreeing with her. Nothing new here.

Seriously just about everyone goes through some of kind of bullshit with the opposite gender. There are good ways to take these experiences, then there are bad ones. If you are just going to be upset and rant about an entire gender, then I'll just call you salty and be on my way.

[ObscuredBeyond]

It's ridiculous. I'd love to have a girlfriend. I just don't want to have to lower my standards to sewer level to get one. Those kind never last anyway, and they always bring regret.

Yet, I've had to scratch another prospect off the list today. Turns out, she already has a kid, and possibly a live-in boyfriend. They all appear happy together, so I have no intention of messing with that. Then I found there's a (single?) gal right across from me in the apartment building. But her and I just met, so I have no idea if she'd even be worth the pursuit. Looks like my type though. Still, don't wanna seem too forward on the first day. Especially since her dad was right there.

[Tomsta]

Just ask her for drinks/dinner

[9mfeo]

I mean, it takes two. If you just ignore dudes that act improperly, you're essentially rewarding bad behaviour because you're not calling them on their shit. So if you think a man doing those things is shitty, say something when you see one doing it.

Also, if it doesn't apply to you, why are you offended? You know it doesn't apply. Do the mature thing and move on with your day.

[K-Cool-Dude]

Actually, in certain situation I found this to be true in the guys between age 14 to 17. But they really get to know their true self after this. Even my friend is like that. He stole the girl I liked and filled her with words against me. I was helpless, she is a good friend but won't listen when I speak about her boy friend. It's kind of very desperate and sad feeling when I hear her speak of that bastard.
But I still hope that one day she'll be able to get to know my true self. For now, I am not in an excellent situation but just don't want to make things worse.

[SilenRose]

I seriously hope you aren't still communicating with this "friend".

[K-Cool-Dude]

@SilenRose Actually, nothing has changed between us as friends. But I am not going to trust him again. He doesn't yet know that I am mad at him and I don't want him to. So that when something bad happens with the girl, he can't accuse me of that.

[IsabelleBk]

I've never met a genuine nice guy in my entire life. I'm not kidding, lol. Therefore, I don't believe in nice guys, and when they pretend to be nice guys, they always show their true faces at the end. s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/.../...dc0a6a18dc.jpg

[Surfofthenomad]

Maybe you're just an oversensitive vaginaaaaa

[IsabelleBk]

Haha. Was that supposed to be funny? there, you can have a haha.

[the_rake]

Hey.

I understand that some women may feel this way... however understand that some men feel this way about women also. One person never speaks for an entire gender... nor race for that matter. Hope you get this message in time.

[IsabelleBk]

Yeah I hope I get this message in time too, because it's like finding nemo. Very difficult.

[JustMe-93]

You're 18!!! :/

Just be patient.

[Minxxie]

@Surfofthenomad yeah oversensitive because clitorises have twice the nerve endings in your stupid dick so women can have better orgasms! lol

[Kingfrosty]

Well same goes for girls just be happy with what ya got and stop being so bitchy because you can't find a decent guy im sure you have met nice guys they just dont want you simple as that. Im not a nice guy but i have met guys that are like that. They forgave there girlfriend for cheating on him and all that shit. Met a lot just guys that go for you aren't looking for that with you and i have to say if i met ya in real life i dont think i would won't to date you either just my opinion good luck

[IsabelleBk]

@Kingfrosty Lol, wth is wrong with you. Butthurt much? jeez.

[IsabelleBk]

@JustMe-93 Yeah that's true. :)

[the_rake]

Precisely: at such a young age it is highly unlikely you will have found a true alpha male yet given the fact such men like myself are a truly rare breed. but once you have found such a man who is willing to settle into a monogamous relationship, you have fulfilled your lifes purpose.

[Kingfrosty]

NOt even just telling it how it is i could say the same thing about you

[IsabelleBk]

@Kingfrosty Hah where am I being a butthurt? I'm just saying what happened to me. :)

[BigJake]

Horseshit.

[iamyourneighbor]

There are a lot more post on Facebook that will hurt you if you find that post on Facebook offensive. You really shouldn't take things posted like that seriously, after all Facebook is just a social media website that some people use to get likes. I don't think it's stereotypical I think the proper term is generalizing

[sdistotallyme]

the thing is men have changed their behavior to be more politically correct/passive & pleasing thanks to feminism in the last 40 years (nice guys). We may have primal lusts do act douchey at times... but most of us have been conditioned to control ourselves. Ironically it does NOT give us what we want.

However women can't seem to control their behavior with the shitty choices they continue to make. I'm not speaking for all women of course, but too many.

Old saying is women don't know what they want and men don't know what to give them.

[Someguy17]

Yep, the more I walk away from feminism and assert myself, the more tail I get.

[sdistotallyme]

@Someguy17 I agree. The problem is they have infiltrated the public education systems and are brainwashing both young women and boys with their bullshit. Many guys don't seem to realize this until well after college (and years of sexual frustration)

[RachelBrigs]

Younger guys, say, 16-21, generally fit that description. I would say most. Sorry, but most guys that age want a girlfriend but not the commitment. They want to fuck around but they want loyalty.

I'm sure there's other stereotypes about girls that are true.

[godfatherfan]

that is just an ignorant thing to say. you know this how?

[R3d_Anonymous]

Actually, it seems like it's the other way arouns. We guys are getting sad that girls don't want relationships with us and just want to fuck around. :(

21st century: the generation where women become like men and men become like women... lol

[R3d_Anonymous]

*around

[Tomsta]

I wasn't like that and have never been i wanted commitment at 18 and i still want it now at 22

[asiag299]

Wow this is ignorant -_- Maybe you need to start looking at other guys. Most of the guys at my school and the ones that I know are in committed relationships right now. Most guys don't have a problem committing it's just the small population of jerks that don't want to commit and most of the time the jerks get the girl. Then once the jerk gets the girl the girl becomes upset and trashes every guy out there. you also have the other cases where the girl decides to become a player to and break some nice guy's heart! :(

[skykidx1]

@asiag299 give this girl a cookie I once got my heart broke. By a girl I thought I could truest. It'sa very long story but after dating her I turned of. Any feels of trues. I had for women what so ever. But through improving myself and making my life better I decied I should' nt let 1 person fuck up the way I think about women and stay who i

[QooLipBite]

Where. Is. My. Sandwich.

[Someguy17]

Yeah, I'm the exact opposite. I used to want to settle down and have a family. After dating tons of women, I realize that I like my indepence. It would have to be a damn perfect gal to get me to settle down now.

[CapricornSwagL]

Don't worry girl I agree... ish. People don't know how boys are where you live so who are they to tell you you're ignorant, wrong, blah blah blah. Keep your head up. Look out for the guys that PRETEND to be a good boyfriend. There. are. LOTS which some people ACT like they dont know... wonder why hmm

[Girl_on_fire]

I think it was written by a girl that was hurt by many guys.

[CapricornSwagL]

Trying to figure out if you're appreciative of that girl or not...

[fueltothefire]

Most guys are nice guys! And most of us know that. Tumblr is full of frustrated lesbians that can't seem to find the right guy. Don't worry.

[Tomsta]

Perhaps i should get on Tumblr then :p

[fueltothefire]

You could try! With a wig. I obviously mean no harm to lesbians, too. I do mean to put people in their place who think they are better than men just because they are female.

[CapricornSwagL]

Maybe they aren't lesbians. Maybe they had a FEW boyfriends that pretended to be a good boyfriend then showed his true colors. Ignorant people smfh

[fueltothefire]

@CapricornSwagL It was a joke. Everyone has bad experiences with relationships, but if a guy breaks up with you and he's an instant dick, that's kinda shallow. Men are people too that want to be loved, just like women. And some women are just as dickish as men in relationships. It just seems pointless to me to judge all men when you've had a FEW boyfriends that didn't fit your needs.

[CapricornSwagL]

@fueltothefire Well if it was a joke I apologize but it didint sound like one.

"Men are people too that want to be loved, just like women."

Only the men that want relationships not the ones that play around, pretend, and get for doing it. Same with women but the women that's complaining obviously their the ones that wanted a serious relationship.

"And some women are just as dickish as men in relationships"

You're right. SOME women but I guarantee they're that way because of a man or men that played them. Yes I know same with guy and I have empathy for them but only if they actually wanted a a relationship not cheated on their girlfriend then complained about her leaving him for nothing. Fact: Most women cheat because men started cheating first. NOW women are good at it and use, play with men hearts like most men did women. I know lots of women that was sweet and innocent now their badasses and play men (but are called hoes because they do the same thing men do).

[CapricornSwagL]

Also I know same for men, they could be innocent and some women can play them then he can start playing women (only thing is he won't be called a slut)

"It just seems pointless to me to judge all men when you've had a FEW boyfriends that didn't fit your needs."

Agreed. I dont judge all men either but I understand why a woman WOULD therefore I dont judge them. Especially when your few bfs was total aholes, can't really keep a positive attitude about men unless you're just.. the sweetest person ever.

[9mfeo]

I mean, if they're lesbian why would they be trying to find the right guy? That defies logic.

[fueltothefire]

@CapricornSwagL All that you said made decent sense and all, but being skeptical is something else than constantly complaining about it. We get it. men can be pigs. they're the rotten apples you find in every group. there are more 'good' well-willing men than assholes. the 'nice guys' you find on the internet are just as bad as biased women that complain about men all the time. both are getting old.

[CapricornSwagL]

And again I know what you mean, your comment just seemed judgmental to call women lesbians for doing what they did. That was my point, pointing out the lesbian thing which I know now you was 'joking'. I'm over it

[fueltothefire]

@CapricornSwagL I directly replied to my post, saying 'I did not mean offense towards lesbians'. I directly said that. :').

[CapricornSwagL]

I'm not a lesbian. I just believe in equal right and asked you a question

[BigJake]

Girls don't believe in personal responsibility when it comes to dating, apparently. If anything goes wrong, it's the fault of men, period.

It's not that she chose to date a bad guy, it's that this apparently sweet guy turned psychopathic user on her out of the motherfucking blue. They mock the guys who do want relationships ('creeps,' 'clingy guys') and then wonder why Johnny Coldsore ended up using her as a fucktoy. Then, after all that drama, they head to social media to post some nonsense about how 'all guys' only want a loyal dupe of a girl to stick around while he dabbles with as many side things as he can get. Wrong...