What do women want?

Disclaimer: This myTake involves a lot of generalisations. Exceptions prove the rule, but doesn't make the generalisation wrong.

Furthermore those are just observations either by me or made by science. I don't intent to engage into a meta-discussion about Nature vs. Nurture.

What do women want?

The age old question of what women want. Doesn't matter, if it is relationship-wise, attraction-wise, personality-wise or sexually, most men are clueless. And a lot of women are equally clueless about their own desires. This makes a world involving women often a difficult one to be in. Yet, we don't want to miss women either since for all the trouble they make us, they also have a lot of wonderful things to offer.

Personality and Attraction

... are a lot more intertwined for women than they are for men. Men usually can find a woman repulsive in personality and still see her as attractive while women have a lot more soft-factors benefitting how attractive they find a man.

Alpha Males:

While this is an annoying reoccurence on G@G, there is some truth behind it. Women are indeed attracted to alpha males. The problem is that the definition of what an alpha male is, is often skewed.

There is no clear-cut definition though as every woman has a different feeling of what represents an alpha male to her. Some define intelligence as that, others pure physical strength. Some think money and/or power defines one and again others think he needs to be an authority. There are more possible alpha-attributes that women are attracted to and it can be any of them or multiple depending on the individual woman.

That being said all of those have certain things in common: Confidence; charisma; often mental, sometimes physical strength and being respected by others and most importantly by the woman herself.

Humour:

We've heard it again and again that women are attracted to guys with a sense of humour and yet there are many guys who bring others to laugh, but at the end of the day are single without understanding why.

So is that because women aren't really attracted to humour in a guy? Partly. What women find attractive is if the guy can make her casually laugh in a flowing conversation or by simply smiling at her. That is not solely based on the humour itself, but also on the way the guy carries himself.

On the other hand trying to be the clown is seen as unattractive, because the guy is often lacking confidence and self-esteem and thus get's approval by making himself to a clown for everyone else. He doesn't carry himself properly and with respect as he disregards that in order to gain approval.

Empathy:

“Women want a sensitive men” - another one of those phrases we have heard again and again and once more it is only partly true. That is why I have choosen to call this sub-topic empathy rather than sensitivity.

What women desire isn't an overly sensitive man in terms of being similar emotional outgoing as themselves, but rather a man who is aware and capable of handling his emotions while having a strong sense of empathy – especially towards her. She doesn't want a male crybaby, but pretty much desires to be understood by him without (much) words. Preferably making her feel like he can read her mind.

This makes her trust him, be capable of being vulnerable and letting go with him as well as simply feeling understood. Additionally this shows he has a strong level of social competence – which also goes hand-in-hand with said alpha male above.

Nice Guys and Bad Boys:

The endless debate about nice guys never getting any girl and/or ending up in the friendzone while bad boys have a pathway of naked, wet and willing women ahead of them.

Let's get straight to the point: There is some truth to it. While being nice and kind is a very desirable trait to have, it doesn't make a person physically attractive. It simply doesn't make a girls panties wet. It becomes even worse, because many self-proclaimed nice guys are – like the earlier mentioned clowns – being overly nice in order to be approved while in reality they are being pushovers. There is a difference between being kind and nice while standing your ground and forcing yourself to be nice while being a pushover.

On the other hand bad boys are desirable not because they are often jerks, but despite – bar some exceptions of women who think they deserve to be treated badly. These bad boys exhibit certain behavioural traits that make them physically attractive like a certain level of „I don't give a fuck“-attitude which is often mistaken as confidence, a sense of mysteirousness and adventure and a few more. The bad boy radiates a sense of adventure and excitement.

Additionally like quite a lot of men have to a smaller or bigger degree the white-knight syndrome, there are also probably as much women who think they are the one who can take the good traits of a bad boy and improve the bad ones – to make him into a better man. That rarely works out though.

Pick-Up Artists:

I feel like this will need some extra mention here as well as it seems the opinions are very extreme of saying it either fully works or it doesn't at all.

I will make it short: It works to an extent as it explains several social strategies that confident men display which tend to create physical attraction. Cockiness, push&pull, etc. all work on a superficial level – but they only work on those guys as they are the original. The problem is that those who try to copy it are always that – a mediocre copy at best. It works for on some girls, but usually it will not make the guys who are trying PUA more successful. What really creates improvement is the practice of interacting with many women independent of a pick-up artist background or not.

Female Sexuality

... is probably the topic most guys reading are waiting for.

Mental and Physical arousal:

Let's start with the difference on how men and women perceive and experience arousal. For men mental and physical arousal usually go hand-in-hand. For women on the other hand it is much easier to be either without the other.

There was an interesting experiment (see 1) a while ago where men and women where asked about their sexual orientation and then shown all kinds of different pornographic videos while having a tool on their genitals measuring their physical reaction to the videos. Women usually reacted to pretty much everything physically without mentally desiring it. This alone shows how important the mental aspect of a womans arousal and desire is.

Foreplay before foreplay:

As explained in the previous point it is of utmost importance to get the women not only physically in the mood, but also mentally. While touches might make her physically react, we guys would do well if we also sexually seduce our girl beforehand. What those cues are depends on the individual woman, but usually they are a lot more about felt emotion rather than visual appeal. Teasing, desire, imagination. Making her feel and imagine sexuality to not wait until she is in the mood, but create it.

Trust:

Naturally trust is an important trait, but especially for womens sexuality it is even more than that. The woman needs to trust him to be able to let go and give her all to him. This probably is an evolutionary trait as for the woman there is a lot more at stake when engaging sexually and thus trust is this important, because without it she will have a hard(er) time to let herself be vulnerable, to not tense up, to let him see her naked and to let him enter her.

Men watch, women read porn:

Naturally there are men who like to read erotica and women who like to watch porn, generally the above statement holds true nonetheless. Once more this is because men and women perceive sexuality differently. The porn industry knew that for a few decades already and thus adjusted their porn to the audience.

Men psychologically replace the male actor in a porn and imagine themselves doing and taking the actress. That's why there is a whole lot of Point-of-View porn. Women on the other hand psychologically emphatise with what the actress might feel. Thus reading erotica does the job similary well or even better for her by simply indulging into mentally creating her perfect sexual fantasies being guided by the erotica rather than watching porn and potentially finding certain things, the actors, etc. a turn-off.

Taking charge:

I refrain from using the terms dominant and submissive as I find them too one-dimensional, too vague and to an extent simply not true.

That being said women desire when the guy takes charge, acts, understands when she is in the mood and how to get her in the mood. Hence, even the act of sex itself has one doing the penetrating and the other one being penetrated.

Yes, the woman can also be active in certain positions like cowgirl or is the active one when giving oral – but taking charge doesn't mean he is in charge 100% of the time, but it means that she deep down knows he is easily capable and will take charge in the right moments. When she is on top, she still knows he can grab her hips and make her move in the pace he wants. Or he could easily switch positions. There are many ways to take charge, but it shouldn't be forced – but rather a display of confidence in himself and desire for her.

For example most women will greatly enjoy when he just picks her up and throw her on the bed (while making sure she doesn't get knocked out with her head against the wall). How this develops further then easily depends on the guy and what mood he creates. Is he starting to kiss her slowly and intimate? Or kissing her with firey passion? Many roads lead to Rome.

Rough Sex:

Most women desire rough sex occasionally or more often than that. Taking her, biting her, pinning her down/against a wall, showing her how much he wants, desires and needs her, grabbing her, fucking her until she moves funny the next day.

This is for three reasons. Firstly it is the purely animalistic desire. She loves to see him letting go to this extent and to engage herself in the same way.

The second reason is that women are to an extent narcisstic by nature. They desire to be desired – especially for their physical beauty and looks. They know men are visual and a man who really needs to take her shows a lot of sexual and physical desire for her which in return turns her on as well (usually) under the condition she finds said man attractive already.

The last reason was explained in the previous point of taking charge. Women like when a man takes charge and potentially overpowers her which also leads to the next point.

Rape Fantasies:

Rape fantasies are some of the most common erotic fantasies among women. Statistically 40-60% (see 2) of women do have them. The real number is probably higher than that as those statistics rely on questionnaires and there will be plenty of women being too afraid and/or embarrassed to admit to those.

So do women really desire to be raped? No, that isn't the case – bar a few crazy exceptions. It is much rather than women desire to be overtaken by a man. It is the extreme form of rough sex and for very similar reasons. She fantasises about being desired to an extent that the men breaks through all boundaries and limitations, through all common sense and rational thinking by just wanting, desiring and overpowering her. The absolute and only object of desire in his eyes. She desires to feel his pure animalistic side, to feel his strength on her skin, to feel herself at his mercy. Not to fight against it, but to fully and willingly let it happen.

Additionally she also desires the high amount of trust necessary for that. Knowing the man could easily force and take her as he overpowers her already, but doesn't. To give control away fully to him and his desire for her. Letting go and being vulnerable to 100%.

Intimacy:

This probably could fill an entire MyTake by itself. That's why I keep it to the point. The closer man and woman are emotionally, the more the desire for intimacy grows. If someone just fucks around with affairs and One-Night-Stands it's close to a non-factor, but that changes when there are stronger emotions involved. Emotions of affection and love we all (hopefully) experienced already. Then cheesy phrases like “making love” suddenly make sense and are desired to be experienced.

Keep in mind though that with all the intimacy and closeness the desire to just fuck will still remain and shouldn't be forgotten. Then though it isn't purely physical lust-based anymore, but the emotional affection for each other turning into physical desire. Rough sex with a stranger will feel and be different than rough sex with a loved one. And most likely inbetween or at least afterwards will involve the display of affection. Even if it is just small things like stopping inbetween to just exchange looks and kiss each other before going on.

Penis Size:

In a myTake about what women want that involves her sexual desires, the often repeated question about penis size can't be missed out.

To get straight to the point. Penis size does matter, to an extent. Though the perfect sized and shaped penis is useless, if a guy doesn't know how to handle it. Not to mention that a perfect penis is very individual to the individual woman and her anatomy.

Skill beats size at any point of time, but having a decent size surely is a positive thing to have. Kinda like eating ice-cream. Ice-cream is awesome, but it gets even better with whipped cream and a cherry on top.

That being said, the preferences are usually the following:

Women love the feeling of being filled out. It isn't supposed to hurt, but it is definitely prefered to make her feel full and slightly stretched. Thus girth actually is more important than length even though length generally makes the penis more aesthetically pleasing, but can easily be a problem when hitting the girls cervix. Too thick on the other hand can be an issue for oral.
Veins. Women like veins on arms. And on penises.
Women love to see and feel the blood-flowing in, the pulsing (especially when it grows), the heat radiating. Probably the reason why they like the veins.
Grower or Shower doesn't really matter. One looks better flaccid, the other has the appeal of seeing it grow.
Precum. Women are no different to men who love to see their partner wet which translate to clear physical arousal.

Conclusion: Women are complicated – but by no way impossible to understand, if you learn social competence, empathy and observation.

As a final word: This is by far not the entirety of what women want and how they interpret, perceive, feel and behave differently than men. Those here are mere basics and there is a lot more to it. At one point I might be writing a second MyTake to cover more.


Sources:

1) https://indiana.edu/~sexlab/files/pubs/Chivers_Seto_Blanchard_2007.pdf

2) https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201001/womens-rape-fantasies-how-common-what-do-they-mean

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  • This is pretty well done, if wordy.

    BUT.

    You are not making one of the most important connections here, namely between empathy and dominance/rough sex/etc.

    It's a bit ironic on its face, but it makes sense when you think about it. To really tap into that part of a woman's sexuality, a man needs to be able to do literally contradictory things at the same time -- which demands a tremendous amount of understanding and empathy. Not a wussy, "nice-guy" empathy, but a genuine understanding. A ruthless understanding, tbh.

    He has to be able to hurt her, yet make her feel protected.

    He has to make her feel pain, yet pleasure.

    He has to degrade her and humiliate her, but never make her feel belittled or disrespected.

    He has to make her cry, yet make her impossibly contented at the same time.

    All this requires an INCREDIBLE level of empathy. It's a minefield, truth be told.

    I've met exactly one man in my life who really just... has it. Is hardwired with the answer key to women. Has used it to exploit, break hearts, and destroy, in the past. Yet there he is, sleeping next to me, where he's been for 15 years.

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  • Huh... I think you might know women better than I do. Congrats sir, awesome myTake!

    • Thank you.

  • Generalizations ARE wrong, because it encompasses that the majority of a group of people do something which in fact can NOT be proven. It's irrational to think otherwise.

    1) Humor is subjective.

    2) There's a difference between an Alpha Male and an arrogant Beta. The guys on here claiming to be Alphas are truly Betas.

    3) Some women, NOT all, want sensitive men. I don't think many women want hyper sensitive men. There's a difference.

    In essence, every woman is different and there are plenty of women who are into many different types of men.

  • Wrong wrong wrong.

    Women want the blood of virgins to bathe in while we have pillow fights in our PJs, talking shit about other women. That way we stay young and beautiful forever.

  • Some of this is really true, yet I still don't see how this is complicated lol I think we are pretty simple. Porn, however their is a market for porn , but most women don't like male porn hence why porn for women made by women is getting popular, but most women like amateur anyway. I also think women don't have weird fetishes like men. Rape, I do not fantasize about being raped, brought dominating sex yes. Yea, women likes to be desired, but men in relationships also like to be desired and adored.

  • I stopped reading after the line about some women think they deserve to be treated badly. I think a very small group of women, and men, truly believe they deserve it. the reality is that so many people have been treated poorly by their parents/guardian/relatives that they come to see it as the norm and don't actually realize they're being treated badly by men. many actually don't trust those who treat them well because it seems odd to them, but that doesn't mean they think they deserve to be treated badly.

  • agree exceot with penis size and porn
    I do not care for penis size as long as he something sticking up for me to ride on when ever im on my period or every other three months because the only way for me to orgasm is through clit stimulation

    porn I watch porn daily and I do not get turn on by the idea of what she is feeling I get wet by watching others doing it so nothing to do with what they are feeling just the action

    • the only reason i have sex is because the vagina also gettings lonely and starts craving company every other three months

  • ok I finally read it :P
    well, I know that you re pretty intuitive on the topic from before.
    Well written, nice chronology and flow of the ideas. Although it was long it was easy to read and straight to the point.
    And of course I mostly agree with everything but of course as you mentioned there are always exceptions.

  • This all sounds so complicated. This is why I'm happy I'm not a straight guy and don't have to think about all of this.

  • I think it's all about hormone period

  • let girls write this shit.

  • They what someone that has power, a bright future, money, and has confidence. However, they also want someone that is always there for them and have a soft side.

  • Great take appreciate your work

  • How do you guys waste your lives on this site?

  • if I knew Id give it to her but I don't have anything

  • That's a total generalization, for example, I always take charge and I'm always on top during sex.
    I never had "rape fantasies", probably because I'm dominant all the time.
    Okay, foreplay and arousal are very important, as well as role play.
    Ok, you're right about humor, intimacy, and empathy.

    • Right at the very beginning of this take: "Disclaimer: This myTake involves a lot of generalisations. Exceptions prove the rule, but doesn't make the generalisation wrong." I simply expect people to have the basic level of social competence to understand that generalisations don't account for every single individual out there, but for the majority of people.

    • I understand, that's ok, I've noticed the disclaimer :)

  • In my opinion girls now a days just go for the first guy in sight. But what I think the girls should go for is the mans' personality and what they admire most about the guy , cause in my relationship what I had liked about my boyfriend was that he was athletic, he was funny, and he gave me a spark that nobody else did, but that all changed because now he goes for the girls that go to the first man in sight, so sadly but I think there is no true answer to your question.

  • It's always funny when a man is trying to write about how women are and what we want haha According to this I'm more like a man :)

    • Which is why I made the disclaimer saying: "This myTake involves a lot of generalisations. Exceptions prove the rule, but doesn't make the generalisation wrong."

    • The majority of women I know don't fit your description though