So why do 'Assholes/bad boys' get girls at their prime, and nice guys get girls later in life?

[Anonymous]

So why is it a general trend is assholes/bad boys who treat women like shit/use for sex and basically make them feel worthless and their nothing but a whole to stick their dicks into get women early in life. During their peak years age 18-22. These guys will get women when their skin is better, tigher pussy, firmer breast and butts, boobs not gonig south and no crow feet and wrinkles on the face. These guys get the fun relatoinship in HS/College without the stress of work life/raising family when a girl isn't as cynical about love, and have a much better enjoyable relatoinship. Meanwhile around late 20's/early 30's most women have this epiphiny to give guys who they considered 'nice' a chance at relationship. They would hold off sex ass much as possible and string him along until he commits to her, even though she is less prettier, jaded, increases baggage and basically mellowed/less exciting in her younger days. Nice guys usually from a biological perspective 'damaged good/expired goods' at this point. Yet, have to pay a much bigger cost of committing for life to women and getting less sex. In contrast to bad boys who got fun short term, flings, and casual sex with women when they were prettier, fun, and basically didn't have a pessimistic view of men. So should all guys just be assholes and treat women like shit/cum dumpsters. Not get any feelings and look at most women as whores who have no real emotion for them?

[Anonymous]

It's more white girls thing, white girls are the most garbage women with horrible personalites, are horrible people and represent horrible women compared to women of all races and are also pampered.

White girls are prostitutes when young but they start become garbage in 25 or 28 and then they marry or date someone, I remember this more in white girls, but in general women of other races are attacked more while white girls have everything easy.

Do you see how black, Asian and women are attacked when are with white guys or for something while white women are garbage, prostitutes, make every kind of shit and have nothing bad to undermine them in their race like all groups of people? Even the own white guys have thousands of things related to race to undermine and attack them to make they feel bad, but white girls not, white girls are the group in pedestal even being the worse kind of people who exist and everything who they make is filthy and typical of the garbage pampered who white girls are because are living in easy mode.

Nothing bad to everyone see white girls like shit, nothing bad to make they feel guilt like other women, nothing is made to undermine their relationship, nothing is made using their race to make they live like shit and have this related in their race so they can't remove this, white girls are shit and have nothing against them, have everything easy, everything is made for them, they can be the worse kind of people and will be praised and put in pedestal anyway, easy life.

[bcicantbh]

Oh God, here we go. "I'm a nice guy and life sucks because all these women that I spent a few sentences objectifying don't like me!!!"
Harsh truth coming up. Actual human woman's opinion.
Read your complaint about how women's bodies are better when we're young, and then reevaluate how nice you think you are.
If you're single, it's not because you're too nice.
That's not a real concept. It was made up to save egos.
You might recognize that women have emotions and intrinsic value, but you've got a LONG way to go, my friend.
Women don't owe you anything for being nice.
Women don't like assholes.
Women like confident guys. Women like guys who communicate mutual interest. Women like guys who are fun. Women like guys who don't have a bitter superiority complex. It's a tough world.
The fact that having relationships later in life with older women makes you so angry because our bodies are "damaged goods"? That's disgusting and shows that you're not, in fact, a nice guy.
You might treat girls well face to face, I don't know, but your thought process here is blatantly unattractive.

[verticallyinsecure]

i totally agree with you, i remember that guy elliot rodgers, claiming to be a nice guy but hey, in the end he turned out so great when he was sexually frustrated

[Asker]

Sorry but men are attracted to a woman's appearance more so, and her personality. It's not being mean in anyway to say from a general truth most women bodies/face/overall appearance looks much better in their early 20's than 30's. It's not so much as to say we are interested in sex, which seems to be the common trope argument women use to vilify the nice guy by claiming he is only nice for sex. All men eventually want sex but guys being nice does not mean he is trying to manipulate/expect you to sleep with him. It just bizarre that the majority of female population think this illogical that showing kindness/respect/ affection is a turn off. Again the same argument by women is nice guy think they deserve sex for being nice. That isn't it. What is being discuss here is why being nice is a turn off. General speaking when a guy stops treating a girl like shit she high tails and goes for the next guy that treats her like shit.

[Asker]

Again where does being nice=/= confident. Where does being nice=/=fun, or having bitter superiority complex. This is to discuss the bizarre phenomenon of women always chasing assholes and wanting nice guys later in life Nice guys can have all these traits but beause they are nice/show a girl he cares about her, he gets friend zoned fast. This has been confirm by men all over that when they actually start opening up/drop the BS games, and treat a girl with love, comfort, that she usually dumps him soon after. Again referring to women as damaged goods is accurate in a sense. A woman's fertility, quality of eggs is tied to her youth. As women get older their egg quality goes down, DNA MUTATION goes up, fertility goes down and birth complication rise. So again biologically women become damaged good. .

[bcicantbh]

Buddy, the main problem here is that you have absolutely no concept of how women's minds work. We don't think like that. That may be your interpretation, but take it from me and every other girl I have ever talked to in my entire life: you're wrong. And yes, obviously sex is important to people in a relationship, but the way you talk about it shows a lack of respect and comprehension that I wouldn't expect to see in a guy over the age of 18. Being nice is not a turn off. If women are turned off by you, it's because of something else. Maybe it's your entitlement. Maybe it's your objectification. Maybe it's your illogical conclusions. Maybe it's your self-centered whining. Maybe it's the way you put down other men. Maybe it's the way you define yourself by the way you treat women. Maybe it's something I haven't picked up on yet. Maybe it's just that some girls don't happen to like you. But your entire perception of women and our thinking is WAY, WAAAAYYY off.

[Asker]

I don't need to know how a woman's mind work. Women usually say one thing then do the exact opposite. Men take note of a woman's actions and not the words that comes out her mouth. How is it a lack of respect. General speaking when your in HS/College relationships are usually more fun, and adventurous compared to when your stuck in a domestic lifestyle of playing house. There have been many comparison of men in marriages vs men in relationships and most of the time the latter looks much happier. Again I disagree. Many guys have confirm and I've even experience in my early days because i'm naturally a nice guy that women see kindness as weakness. Treating them with respect, caring about them usually causes them to friend zone you.

[bcicantbh]

See, you keep spouting this stuff, but what you still don't realize is that you understand women about as much as my pet cat can understand quantum physics. If you wanna be a whiny little bitch about how all the good women are taken and all the other guys have more fun, fine, but it's no one's fault but yours. You can't learn about women by listening to men. You distrust women's existence. That might be why women don't like you - you don't see what we're worth. The friend zone is not a real thing. Are the piss babies upset because they gained a friend? Awww, sorry, I don't have any sympathy for that. Friends are wonderful. So are romantic partners. Sometimes we want to date someone who wants to be friends, and we grow the fuck up and move the fuck on and don't stereotype and objectify an entire gender because of it. I really hope you lied about your age. All I can tell you is I completely, 100% understand why no women will date you.

[snowangle]

bcicantbh, I cannot like your answer and comments enough. +50

[bcicantbh]

It should show ALL of you that every girl who has voted on my comment agrees with me. Girls don't like assholes, and you're an asshole, which is why girls don't like your entitled, whiny, pissy little ass.

[circlebill]

I can understand how women wouldn't like what the Question Asker is saying. But he DOES make a certain amount of sense! No man wants to be a woman's last choice when her bio clock is ringing and she needs Mr. anybody-she-can-push-into-marriage! Why should a nice guy take on the huge legal trap of marriage to a woman past her prime who gave her youth asshole/bad boys?

[djmzes]

U get what you sow U sow anger and hate u get it back Simple and first law of physics

[djmzes]

It is not true... it is ok you reject us but do. jot humiliated us and keep saying that nice guy are nice just to have sex with you when it is not true and never was. And stop with the fact of genuine nice and "nice guys". All these resentments come from the fact that women have fun in doing it and do it in such a way to humiliate us in public and on social media. Secondly since we live in hypersexual society where sex is just like money and that makes the society believe that your success is based on how much sex u had in ur life...

[MysteriousChick93]

When we are teens so basically inexperienced girls we usually lack confidence so we seek aggressive type of guy in terms of pursuing us as it helps us come out of our shells but once we been with this type eventually we get heart broke an realise in long term this type of guy will either end up alone or a breeder with many different women. So we know we need a stable guy who wants love not just sex and control. As a 22 year old I would never date this type again I had two exes who were this way. I've changed a lot since I was 19-20 an now seek a mature gentleman and basically a nice reliable guy.

[MysteriousChick93]

No that doesn't mean you should be a idiot to women at all. So if your truly a nice guy you wouldn't even if said that lol

[Asker]

Men adapt. We see being nice and showing love/affection gets us no where in dating and asshole winning. Guys want love/relationship in their 20's too. So we are willing to forgo our true self to get this. Most guys can't stand maintaining it for long but women seem to like turning men into monsters then wonder why more guys are assholes today. A study done in 2013 showed 2 out of 12 million households in america right now are raised by single parent mothers.

[MysteriousChick93]

If a guys nice they wouldn't think of then being a jerk most guys I know just don't deal with type of women that go for that type an they say it's unattractive to them knowing these women make such poor choices an subject themselves to an unhappy experience with assholes. Majority want just sex in their 20s very few want love in my experience. These days many still don't want love even near 30 . Can't speak for all guys or girls as I don't know them all. Women don't turn men into anything your in control of your own behaviour an thoughts if women want assholes then find one who doesn't it's simple stop going for overly hot chicks if deep down you know you don't stand a chance. An women become single parents due to a lot of factors not just dating assholes. Too many arguments, lack of maturity, too independent so the guy feels pushed out etc.

[snowangle]

Asker, my boyfriend of nearly a year is extremely loving and affectionate. So... what, then? Am I just a freak of nature, or is it possible you don't have all the answers?

[MysteriousChick93]

He did say During their peak years age 18-22.

[Slugworth99]

Great answer - and a smart woman as well.

[MysteriousChick93]

Who me @Slugworth99 lol

[Slugworth99]

I meant "Good answer, MysteriousChck93". You validate my thinking that women do 'grow up' just like, hopefully, most guys do. Many of them figure out a good guy is far better than the super hot guy who treats them like crap. This is not to say that all super hot guys are assholes, but I will got with the law of averages on this one. Hopefully, the guys will grow up themselves and learn what it takes to keep a good woman and treat her well.

[wrightontime]

Why did it take you so long to mature up and realize you now want a gentleman and reliable guy? Why didn't you want the gentleman and reliable guy from the start? You know you could have had a gentleman and reliable guy from the start.

[MysteriousChick93]

So long I am 22 not 30 lmfao I only started dating at 19!

[wrightontime]

So why did you not want the gentleman and reliable guy from the start when you could have had one?

[wrightontime]

You can just be honest and say the bad boy is better looking or something like that.

[MysteriousChick93]

Lol don't answer for me I can answer myself. Reason is cus its called inexperienced. Teen years are all about living an learning through new experiences an it's only after the bad that you realise how to spot the good in people now I can tell a douche so easily. Today I did just that. My guy is nothing like them so I know I am wiser as I am older it's quite simple.

[MysteriousChick93]

I've dated hot, average, ugly guys so not looks no. Had guys with bad looks then through knowing them real bad personality too.

[wrightontime]

Thanks for the insight. I'm always trying to understand women better. It will make me a better man and boyfriend. This opinion asker needs to realize that another man will take his women if he doesn't want them. I hope some guy steals his woman from him and he ends up alone. Assholes deserve to be alone.

[MysteriousChick93]

Lol relax people live an learn.

[wrightontime]

Lol its alright. I'm getting some now and the foreseeable future and he isn't. I will just let him be alone with his right hand.

[djmzes]

U r right I agree But then you have to agree that u will have to show some effort and trust and do not continue to follow the sane dating process and logic as teenagers time. This is because you will have to show to. the guy that you will choose him no matter again and again... then only you will get a real nice guy that will love more than u imagine that will sacrifice things for you and make it a responsibility to. keep you happy.. I know some is going to disagree but time will show them what the truth is...

[Kawaiigurl1234]

Because we go through a bad boy phase or "we love him". Whatever the reason is... it's different for females. This goes both ways. Guys will chase after the girls who cheat on them and treat them like shit over the girl who will be there for them and cater to him. Why? For those same reasons.

[dwiller943]

That is true. I always seen both genders do it. But the only reason why I more-likely seen the opposite sex do it, is because I was more focused on the opposite sex. I remember having to deal with damn near everyone in my high school doing that. It was a very small school too.

[snowangle]

Lol your description is so ridiculous I can't even bring myself to humor you.

I'll just say that sure, you sound SUPER nice...

[Slugworth99]

I have to disagree with you. I think his question is definitely legitimate and relevant. Many of the questions on here are from girls who ask why their boyfriend, who is super hot, cheats on her, treats her like crap, etc. etc.

[snowangle]

No, this question is not legitimate. This is a very confused and entitled boy who objectifies women and only acts nice to get favors (sex) in return. I've grown tired of seeing these guys all over the internet and in person. I no longer have the energy nor the motivation to explain the long laundry list of reasons they are wrong. Simply put, they just need to grow up.

[bcicantbh]

You're so important. Thank you for calling out entitled pissbabies. We all need to call them on their bullshit!

[Anonymous]

Status shift with age from physical toughness and aggressiveness to money. Most of the shy hard working guys make it to middle management, while some of the bad boys flame out. At this stage women 'grow out of' their bad boy stage.

If the bad boy happens to make bank, they're still all over him, it's still the guy she'd cheat with etc.

Look at aging rock stars, they're not exactly hurting for women.

Don't listen to anyone telling you that 'the guy who gets her in the end wins'. That's how evolution works for women. For women, getting pumped randomly is no big deal, having the guy commit is 'winning'.

It's not like that for men. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't commit, or get married, or have kids. They can be great things.

But it's actually not a big deal for a woman to marry you. She's basically saying 'sure you can help raise my kids and give me money'. Her wanting to fuck you without those things being required (even if you choose to offer them) is a bigger deal.

You don't actually have to be an asshole, but you do need to have some confidence and not be a pushover for women to be attracted to you.

you should not waste your time on women who want to string you along. If a woman isn't enthusiastic about fucking you from the start, do not consider rewarding her with a relationship.

[Theguyoverthere]

We get these kinds of rants all the time. What we eventually see is that the "nice guy" is far from nice. I've seen some genuinely nice guys in both good relationships and single for life. It depends on the girl he's after. The girls you're describing are attracted to the issues they get themselves into whether they admit it or not. Some outright admit they need the drama and know it. Others will just blame everyone but themselves and if the relationship ends up good, she'll dump him.

Toxic relationships are loud. That's why we hear about them so much. The other thing to keep in mind is that the 20's are a "party age" for both genders. So it's common for some girls to want to enjoy the NSA. I don't see it as a bad thing unless she's using guys inappropriately. If she hooked up, there's no reason to view her as "used goods." If she has a history of toxic relationships and you can tell she's drama, just break it off. It's that simple. There are so many couples who marry that started out as "high school sweethearts" so it is not like all women have battered woman syndrome.

[Slugworth99]

Most of the assholes are the good looking, muscle bound neanderthals who know that their looks will keep a woman even when he treats her like crap. With age and experience of being treated like crap, many women find that those looks are not worth the treatment. Looks will fade with age - no matter how much plastic surgery also. That's why most guys, who aren't the studs / pretty boys / neanderthals will treat a women nicer. They realize that their looks will not carry the day for them.
Concentrate on being a nice guy and treating a woman like a lady. Chivalry and treating a lady as special person in your life are not outdated concepts - despite what the liberal feminist movement will tell you. I think she will definitely appreciate being treated nicely instead of like a piece of meat.
Many of the questions I have answered on here are from girls who ask why guys don't approach them. My answer is always for them to approach a guy and ask him. If he is a nice, but not super hunk, type of guy, a pretty girl approaching him will most likely blow his mind. Hopefully, if he follows through with treating her nice, he will have a nice girl who is pretty and he can treat as his special lady. Yes, this all sounds a bit sappy, but 49 years have taught me a few things about life.
Sorry for the novel, but hope it helps clarify it a bit.

[ReneDS]

dude you are overreacting, i get your frustration but its not completely true what you are saying here. yes a lot of girls go for the doucebags but you are overreacting. why wouldn't she look hot when she is older than 22. you sound really frustrated. dont do it dude, women will notice your negative attitude. it will take you nowhere !

[Scrambled]

Dude.., that's why the best pick up artists on earth are born at the 30yr mark. Nice guys at that age shouldn't give into any women and their niceties.

[Brian-Brain]

Years ago a friend of mine who studied psychology said something similar to me. She said that women at first look for someone with the right genes. Bad Boys have these genes.

Once they have children with this person they desire someone different. Someone who they can be with all of their lives. That's when the nice guy gets a chance.

[circlebill]

You seem to be a little confused! Since when does ACTING LIKE AN ARROGANT ASS indicate superior genes? Being a nice person does NOT indicate bad genes! Stop being silly!

[Brian-Brain]

@circlebill First of all calm down. Yes, acting like an ass is not superior. But you cannot look at it this way. Try look at it as being a capable provider. A man going for what he wants and willing to do anything to get that (even if it is in an asshole way) can provide better than a guy let's people walk all over him. I think this is how it is perceived in a subconscious way.

[circlebill]

I'm sure you meant well with your comment! However, the bottom line is that people often make foolish assumptions in attempting to judge a person without bothering to know that person. Based on your reasoning, an unemployed alcoholic with a pushy attitude can seem "superior" to an employed man who acts in a milder manner. The bottom line is that it takes serious wisdom to judge people intelligently. I feel sorry for many younger women who foolishly choose a "bad boy" who keeps ending up in jail for "going for what he wants".

[Brian-Brain]

@circlebill It is Foolish. But attraction is not based on logic. It has always based on hardwired principles. And those have nothing to do with generations. Women have always done that. And they are most likely not aware that they do this. We do this too. Us men like women with nice hips. But the science behind this is because those hips indicate being able to bear children. Did you ever look at hips like "Hey, she can have children!!!". I'm sure you didn't. I'm sure you thought the same as I did. Something like "WOw, look at her!!" Didn't you? And now you know why you thought that.

[circlebill]

I believe you are speaking of the difference between overgrown children and genuine intelligent adults! I can't speak for others, but I personally have always viewed women for the potential offspring that might be created! Overgrown children "fall" in love due to hormonal instincts alone! With intelligent adults, love is a carefully reasoned choice! Unfortunately, too many people retain the mindsets of overgrown children! And we have foolish results all around to prove it! Peace!

[ManaX]

Where does the b*tch/girl player come into this equation? You've missed out a whole other playing field.

[JohnB1]

I started dating my wife when she was 18. I've been in a relationship with her for 17 years and been married to her for 12 years.

Does that make me an asshole since I dated her in her prime years of 18-22?

Go fuck yourself because thats all the action you will get!

[doireallyneedone]

So if the nice guys get the girl when they are older, what happens to the assholes when they get older?

[wrightontime]

The assholes don't make any things of themselves and become broke losers. Can't fight father time, guys looks fade and they wind up being alone or with some ugly girl.

[doireallyneedone]

@wrightontime Exactly my point. If 'assholes' are only getting girls for a short few years of their life. Then I'd MUCH rather be the nice guy that general society likes and still gets the girl for the rest of my life.

[Asker]

Lol at you not realizing how your getting the shitty end of the deal.

[doireallyneedone]

Lol at asker not realizing the obvious. I've been the 'nice guy' so I think I know what I'm talking about here. I've started out as the nice guy, didn't get any girls until a couple years ago and now I've dated easily 50+ girls - I went through a period of dating 4-5 different girls/week. And trust me, I'm still the nice guy. I've concentrated hard of my study and work and being a nice guy. So now I've got the perks of a 6 figure salary, good non-douchebag friends and a selection of girls. The girls know this, and they respect me. They don't flake on me, because they know I have options. Pretty sure I rather have what I have now than having the girls as a teenager and now working some crap job on minimum wage and no girls.

[Asker]

Strong internet e-brag and defrauding. Sure you are Mr. CEO 10/K day. Let me guess you also look like Brad Pitt and date 9/10 female on the reg. I'm saying it's a shitty deal. Girl in prime (18-22) Sexier More fun Less baggage STD lower (Male to female STD transfer is higher) Less resentment of men Not jaded because things are still new to experience Less nagging Looked at relationship for love instead of an interview for provider role. Women in 30+: More baggage Body falling apart as boobs goes south, and skin is less tight. Increase chance she'll have yeast infection More Sexual partners/STD rise More resentment/passive aggressive behavior due to Ex-BF/men that scorned her that you'll take on. Been there done that with whole falling over heel and loving a guy fully. So it becomes less love based and more a business relationship. Will try to force marriage/commit LTR to her very quickly. Will have sex sparingly, and not do stuff with you that she allowed a guy in her 20's to do.

[doireallyneedone]

Lol well good thing none of those women I dated were in their 30s as I prefer women younger than me. They ranged from 16-28. I had a few girls under 18 who wanted to hook-up with me, I didn't take the ones under 18 as I didn't want to get into trouble. So by your definition, most of the girls I got are in their prime. Actually I work in the health profession and I'm on $260K/year. I'm slightly under average height ~5'9. I would rate myself slightly above average (~6/10) but definitely not good looking. But you won't believe me of course. Its your life at the end of the day and we all have ways of dealing with situations that aren't ideal.

[doireallyneedone]

Oh and the thing about the women in their 30s less adventurous isn't really true. If anything they are more willing to please, because they know they need to compensate for their age. I had a ONS with a 35yo Asian lady. Looked like she was still 25. Banged her 5-6/times that night, she sucked me off in the morning, did her in the shower and then cooked me breakfast lol. Hole was tighter than 18yos I've had.

[wrightontime]

@Asker Challenge: I will take your girl if you don't want her. And when I get her, you will never get her back. I will win and you will lose. Is this want you want? Say this shit behind your girls back to another guy in person and that's exactly what will happen. I'm with someone who is 18 now, I'm not their 1st and they are not my first. She is in her prime. But, i plan to to love her and bang her longer than any other guy.

[Antizzl]

Get in the action dude. step up your game and play the field in your league it's your own damn fault if you get no play. You don't have to be an asshole or treat women like shit. You just gotta go for yours. Don't be That Guy... the guy who cries about what he doesn't have instead of liking what he has.

[Asker]

I'm in the action. This is to discuss why woman see good behavoir as a turn off, but somehow reward bad behavoir. Maybe you should stop projecting.

[Antizzl]

Congratulations. Just figure a dude in the action wouldn't concern himself with subjects like this.

[Prof_Don]

Well said bro! Guys who are getting action enough to satisfy their man-thirst, don't dwell about these types kg things. They're too busy having fun with the ladies! ;-)

[dwiller943]

Because assholes are man enough to put effort towards the nice girl ahead of time, while the nice guy waits until the last minute.

[dwiller943]

And then there are girls who do blindly fall for assholes before giving a nice guy a chance. And also girls who never wanted a nice guy until she grew up and decided she no longer wanted the asshole.

[dwiller943]

So for some of us, it's because we got unlucky enough to only encounter the dumb nice guys. But for the smart nice guys that were smart enough to choose the right type of girls ahead of time, and yet STILL get rejected/overlooked for some asshole, kudos to you for putting up with that bullshit; even though you shouldn't have to.

[Prof_Don]

As a guy, I can are where you're coming from.

However, like most guys who think the way you do, you are only thinking in terms of sex with "better " female bodies... and pessimistic about the female personality developing negatively as an excuse to want the "better" female bodies.

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That is disturbing. Makes it seem like that u care about is having sex with the "best" female receptacle possible.

Do u even care about a woman's personality or do u just want a pretty, young, warm wet pink hole?

[Asker]

Dude your line of thinking falls in line witha female in your word of speaking. it's not about only female body but in general a woman's personality becomes bitter/jaded the more her relationships fail. As we progress in life we take on more responsibliites and woman shift fo looking at relationship as an interview to see if your worthy of providing for her child/herself rather than loving you as a person. Taking all this into consideration any sane man would get pissed that he gets shafted with boring ass domestic role of provider, less fun, has to listen to woman resent him for her past boyfriend wrongs to her. Have to deal with baby daddy drama in some cases and basically get a shitty deal than a person who was a complete asshole to her.

[Prof_Don]

Damn bro sounds like you've been dealing with a lot of extremely selfish women. Sorry your sample size of women has been so poor. But not all women are not that selfish; hell I'm not sure the MAJORITY of women are like that!

[Prof_Don]

Like my dad always told me, "You don't want to be the responsible guy, you want to be the fun guy." The older I get the more right he is! The fun guy, overall, has a better time with women. ;-)

[Asker]

I've dated/observe Female friends behavoir. Have had guys from many different countries confirm this type of behavoir. This isn't a small sample size and it seems your in denial right now about true nature. Look up sexual strategy for women dude to get incite into real mind of how women work.

[Prof_Don]

Trust me dude I do understand primal female behavior. Of course a guy should stand his ground and act in a masculine way. But damn man, you come off so fucking angry and hostile towards the female gender. That mentality is self destructive to your dating and relationship efforts.

[Antizzl]

When the professor speaks he speaks the truth... SHAOOO!

[verticallyinsecure]

lol just because you are that guy who goes to women and is like " i wanna be friends with you" and then begs like a dog doesn't make you a nice guy, what men and women really want is a mix of good and bad, if i had a girlfriend, i wouldn't want to her to be completely prudish but not even one of them bondage addicts lol. The thing about those assholes is they are generally better looking and whether women admit it or not they do want their mills and boons time lol. If you are humble, smart etc and look like that, you are truly a great man, so dude, hit the gym, build some lean muscle but don't lose your niceties,

[Shuge]

The darkside is quicker, more seductive.
JK. In all honesty I'll give you some reasons why certain women go for "jerks"

They're real: always being yourself no matter what a girl thinks gives you more value than a kiss ass & makes you trustworthy in a weird way.

They're assertive: Make all the decisions, all the plans. Know where you're going regardless of a girls opinion (this can go too far but it's the better end of the spectrum).

They're confident: Feel entitled. Be a bit of a narcissist. Know that you could always do better & be ridiculously happy about where you are in life.

They have options: A lot of times, a girl doesn't want to feel like she's the one you chose because you HAD to. I don't care how good you look, if you can't attract another woman you'll lose a big chunk of value in her eyes. Talk to tons of girls, only stop when you guys are OFFICIAL, don't cheat but don't lose the ability to. lol

They like their freedom: If you're real, assertive, confident & have options you might not want to get locked down. You might enjoy sexual variety. At this point a few girls you're seeing will want to become exclusive.

This is the crossroad. A "jerk" would avoid commitment until a woman realizes she wants some stability in life & settles for her 2nd (or 5th) choice.
I realize this makes certain girls sound incapable of unconditional love but you'd have to be sure it existed in the first place or be REALLY careful who you fall for.

[hypno-trip]

Why not just try to have a little of both so you can get girls all throughout your life. Personally I will never want to be a straight up ass hole even if I somehow get tons of pussy from it, I don't want to compromise myself like that.

[Jose_22]

LOL im dying ahaha

[wrightontime]

This is very true. But this is life. Girls are attractive at any age. If your hot your hot.

This is real life, for every attractive girl out there there are many guys willing to date her if you don't. Just remember if you are dating an attractive girl at any age there are probably 1000 guys who are waiting to date her after your done with her with no problem.

If I saw you in person I would say to your face "if you don't want her, I will take her away from you". And when I take her you will never get her back. Thats what most guys would probably say to you. You are not the only man one the planet that she is attracted to Just remember that.

[wrightontime]

You must be a virgin. Only virgin guys would be pissed off like this. I'm not a virgin and would never think of future women I meet like this.

[Asker]

So in other words your using shame tactics and thinking any guy who has a problem of having to commit to a woman, who 10 years prior would think you were beneath her and not worth even talking to her, is somehow a virgin. This isn't about virgin and no I'm not. This is about why good behavoir is looked at as a turn off to woman, while bad behavior is looked at as good. Why guys who are stable, hard working and have their shit together get shafted to provider role, and are only considered good by woman at 30+. While guys with tatoos, loud, abusive, cheaters get girls in their early 20's (best years), have fun exciting relationships.

[wrightontime]

Its because younger girls and guys my age are shallow. Girls and guys my age will pick a person to date on pure physical attraction most importantly. Being a bad boy is number one attractive to a girl. Dating a bad boy is attractive to a girl because they stand out from the average good guy, they are better groomed and better looking, they are popular, other girls are competing for bad boys, its a popularity boost, and she thinks she can tame him and change him. When you are young you pick the best looking person you can and don't care about if they will be a good provider. Its shallow but its life. Guys are guilty too. They are always trying to screw the best looking girl they can and are always trying to upgrade.

[wrightontime]

Like I said, if you don't want her, I will take her. And when I take her, you will never get her back. And that's the kind of guy women love. Acceptance and going with the flow without any hesitation or questions. When a woman throws herself at you, they are expecting you to be a man, take them, and enjoy them.

[wrightontime]

I've been with a few girls in their teens through high school. My current girlfriend is 18. I'm a great guy to them and treated them with respect. Does that make me a bad boy asshole?

[Anonymous]

There is some truth there, but, if I were you I would go for the young 20's now as they would have an older guy with some money. Have your fun now.

[Anonymous]

This is the most true thing I've ever read on this website

[Anonymous]

Cause assholes get girls for a while but the good guys get them for a lifetime

[Slugworth99]

And you are one very smart girl. I like your answer!

[wrightontime]

Very true. But why do assholes get the girls first?

[doireallyneedone]

@wrightontime Would you rather get the first for one night, or be the guy banging her every night afterwards?

[wrightontime]

@doireallyneedone I'm not a virgin so I'd rather bang her for longer. I want to keep her longer and treat her better for longer than the last guy did. When she looks back on me I want her to think i tried my best to be her best. I don't want to be her first, I will be her best.

[wrightontime]

@doireallyneedone Would you rather get the first for one night, or be the guy banging her every night afterwards? Why?

[Anonymous]

Because women don't smarten up until they reach 40.
If you want young chicks, just use hookers - at least they're honest and up-front about it.

[doireallyneedone]

Man of experience eh?

[Opinion Owner]

I've seen it so many times, you wouldn't believe. Of course, I'm generalising here. Some wisen up earlier, some later, and some never do. But overall they start thinking smarter around 35-40, when their sexual market value starts dropping. Provided we're talking the typical promiscuous western female.

[doireallyneedone]

Hmm interesting observation. Its funny for me because I've experienced both. I was the 'nice' guy who didn't get laid until my 20s. Then one day something clicked and I went and dated a ton of girls. It's interesting if you put yourself in the shoes a young attractive girl. She is held in very high regard by men (of all ages) and yet she is still so mentally immature, and as she matures mentally her 'sexual value' declines. Its the opposite for men. As we get older our sexual value increases and mental maturity also increases. I've definitely noticed this. So OP, its not a bad deal at all.