Here's the article if you're interested...
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/mom-calls-out-breastfeeding-shamer-on-facebook-120447787867.html
I have no problems with breastfeeding in public so long as the mom makes an effort to cover up. I personally wouldn't be comfortable doing that in public so freely. I feel like it's an intimate bond with you and your baby. I've seen women just whip it out without even trying to cover up. And then they get upset when others are uncomfortable as if they have no right to be uncomfortable.
Breastfeeding has always and will always be around. I just feel like it's being glorified with all the magazine covers and people going out of there way to post online pictures online. It's becoming a spectacle. It's less about actually feeding the baby and more about trying to prove a point.
It's making a point about the right to feed a baby under all circumstances without being shamed or condemned for it by bigots.
@jacquesvol I feel like that's maybe how it started out, but it's lost that. And I will never respect a mother that breastfeeds and looks down on those that don't.
@CHARismatic110
It's not about a mother that breastfeeds and looks down on those that don't.
It's about a mother that breastfeeds in public and about people condemning her.
@jacquesvol I don't have a problem with mom's that breastfeed publicly. I already said that. I still feel like there should be some modesty involved.
You know the reason it's becoming such a fetish is because it's being hidden away and covered up right?
How to combat that is to make it mainstream. It shouldn't be a thing you explain to kids. It's a fact of life that should neither be taboo nor an uncomfortable subject. Would you rather the baby starve?
And what about how uncomfortable she would be?
What if she has something against using formula or her baby is allergic? (which is more common than you'd think) Maybe she simply can't afford formula alongside everything else you need for babies.
If you aren't comfortable with seeing a woman feed her child then look away. It's a fact of life and if you can't accept that then that's on you. Nobody should have to worry about whether or not that single person walking past is going to be offended by someone feeding their kid.
Breasts are there for breastfeeding. That's their function. Look at primitive cultures, most women walk around topless, most of the time only their vulva is covered.
If you can eat at a beach surrounded by men boob and nipples than you should be able to do the same with women's boobs and nipples.
This is a REALLY good point.
It must be very difficult to sift through all the commenters that failed to see the actual question and opinion of your question.
As for the tit being out, u do not care either way, but I can easily see why people would want the child covered.
If it was my child I would encourage my wife to be discreet.
Also, if a women if flaunting her breastfeeding in a grab for attention, then that would become bothersome, but that is rare and I have only experienced that once.
On a side note, for those who stated it is natural, so are diaper changes. Being natural doesn't mean it should be drawing attention
Its a good point but the difference is that one is a small issue of feeding a baby the other is a smelly hygiene issue. In my local area breast feeding is the norm, u walk into a restaurant or cafe and there might be three or four mothers breastfeeding and nobody bats an eyelid. It all started when breast feeding mothers held sit in protests in a local cafe and it has normalised breast feeding in public in our town. Its not a problem in africa or European countries so I can't see the big deal myself. But thats only my opinion hope u dont mind me posting in your opinion.
Well the problem with the location in either plsce is that a breast feeding mother is kind chased into room or in bathroom stale like feeding her baby is a shameful thing. If a breastfeeding mother is not allowed in public places she could find herself trapped at home because some babies need to feed hourly. Unlike Mcdonalds at least the baby will be eating healthy.
U asked me a question @Esplorare on gager and thought u could dismiss and insult me and everyother user that doesn't agree with your opinion and it's just bad manners and an abuse please refrain from sending anymore vial private messages as its harrasment and not very nice and I will report. I suggest u threat myself and other gager user with a little bit morre courtesy as we are all good enough to engage with you on yout question and do not deserve to be insulted and dismissed. #nicetobenice
People should just accept that people have breasts, and that kids need to be breastfed. It's kinda part of life. In fact, if the kid isn't breastfed, they'll just die.
""so that children, men, and potentially even sexual preadators or perverts can see a woman's breast. ""
You've seen your mother's breasts when you were a kid, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't a traumatic experience. I think people should just grow out of the "ewww, that's icky" stage by the age of 18 and above.
P. S. if you don't want to see it, don't look that way.
As a response to @jacquesvol 's answer, @Asker you claim that this post is not about the sexualization of breastfeeding, AND YET your argument against it is that it allows ""so that children, men, and potentially even sexual preadators or perverts can see a woman's breast.""
Basically claiming that it is inappropriate because the display of breasts is inherently sexual, and thus so is breastfeeding. Do you have any OTHER reasons to justify your dislike of the idea?
@Mesonfielde dont upset her lol
@Jaydog666 hmph, my opinion is my own, I'll share it the way I feel like it. I am open to calm debates and discussions, no need to yell at each other and call each other names.
in my opinion breastfeeding is NOT sexual.
@jacquesvol of course it's not. Hell, even breasts aren't inherently sexual by themselves.
My thoughts exactly @Mesonfielde I too believe in open and free debate
@Jaydog666 STOP STALKING THIS POST. I blatantly told you that YOU ARE NOT WELCOMED HERE. I am not interested in your presence nor your moujth so for you to go around trying to invite and include yourself where a QA has made it clear you're unwanted is ABNORMAL, CREEPY, and makes you look outright ridiculous. STOP HARASSING ME.
It's not about an argument or a debate. Some people come to GAG and they don't know how to simply share what they think without trying to make it into a combative, argumentative discussion where every single bit of insight shared has an intention of feeling like they've won.
It's not about what I saw as a child or what you think: it's about women who are infringing upon the right of other parents who may be teaching their children modesty or may want to have that discussion with them on their own terms at a time that isn't during a meal out. When someone is so self-absorbed and expresses such a level of entitlement that they are completely inconsiderate of others, it's an issue, in my opinion.
In reference to Jazquesvol, you really shouldn't try to gauge what's going on in a total stranger's mind by overanalyzing a conversation that didn't directly involve you. That's when assumptions are created.
It's common sense that breastfeeding is not sexual, however a sexual predator or pervert is not going to embrace your logic. Someone who is mentally ill and has a sickness when it comes to sexuality is not going to sexuality is not just going to nod their head and choose your attitude in life. Do you think the guy in this video cares that you and some other people think "breastfeeding is not sexual"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmgeYcyWhZM
People need to be more realistic about the variety of human nature instead of acting like just because they think "______" everyone else needs to find away to adjust and compromise their views for them.
When it comes to 'free and open debate': YOU DON'T FORCE A DEBATE ON SOMEONE.
If someone came to simply express their view, then you don't desperately, persistently try to shove your view in their face , be pushy, and bark at them so you can be heard and feel like you've won some sort of debate. There's something called COMMUNICATION SKILLS and when you lack them, people tend to be less interested in your mouth.
Even if some people see breastfeeding as sexual, that still doesn't make it "inherently wrong".
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I think women should be able to breastfeed anywhere. But they should be covered up at all times. All the people that want to give the bullshit "it is a natural process of feeding... yada yada... horseshit"... sorry, no. breasts for men are sexual. I personally am not turned on, in any way, by breastfeeding. But tits are awesome and I love looking, sucking (not when she has milk though, yuck), and fondling them. So if a tit is out, I am going to look. Sorry, it is just a natural, built in automatic response in men to look at breasts.
Catch yourself on breastfeeding in public is totally natural and acceptable. When a baby is hungry its hungry and breast is best for baby. As for sexual predators they are called predators for a reason and will nearly always find there way to were the best hunting ground for their sick perverses ie schools, crèches, scouts rtc anywhere children. As for weird internet fetishes there are neatly everything u can think of including incest and weird japanese tentacle porn, there is even a growing fetish movement among women for sex with large dogs does this mean I can't take rover for a walk because the weird woman across the street is creaming herself for some doggy dick? No breastfeeding is a non sexual natural act for a woman to feed her infant child its not something that has to be hid in a dark corner. Whats next forcing are kids to stay indoors just incase some sicko gets a trill or will we dress our woman in burkas so there will be no chance of rape by an evil passer by or maybe your granny was showing too much ankle at a wedding snd some perv was touching himself under the table where will it end? At the end of the day they are just breasts doing what they were meant to do feeding a child.
The comment still stands. Most women dont want to breast feed in public but do because the baby needs fed so don't worry about it. Forget the internet there's every porn u can think and no man anywhere is going to be perving on u chillax. Kids are kids its noy going yo scare them mentally
I get that. Its just a mother feeding her child. Will sight of breast cause a waiter to toss a drinks tray? Will the chef burn the steaks? Will a child vommit up his dinner? Will a 16 year old shout 'look at em tits'? Will the wives frown? Will the husbands oogle? Will the local football team come by to check you out? Will yhe police arrest u? Will a nun come by and beat u with a ruler stick? Will a classroom of children need counseling? When u are looking away will some perv sneak up and start sucking breast milk from your nipple? Relax its natural do what u feel is right.
I agree completely. If she does it discreetly, then, fine. But I do not want to see that either. I just don't find it appropriate. If a woman must do it in a way that exposes herself, then I think she should use the restroom, or her vehicle, or somewhere private.
@Jaydog666 1. My tits aren't "milky" 2. That's a weak, lame comment and you should be ashamed for reducing your manhood to that of a prepubescent boy's mind. 3. Get over yourself and humbly accept when someone is sincerely disinterested and carless towards your mouth.
It's not about what you say, it's about how you say it. If you express your idea of truth in a dramatic way like you're begging for applause, I'm not going to want to give you the time of day. Take it as a lesson learned: strangers online aren't obligated to give you the time of day/listen to you
A feeding breast isn't sexual to me.
Are you entitle to force a baby to eat in the women's toilet?
Your mom's opinion is just that : her opinion. She passed it over to you, that's all.
It doesn't entitle you to ask stopping babies from eating in public.
@jacquesvol NO ONE IS SAYING BABIES SHOULDN'T BE FED IN PUBLIC.
You are SO dramatic going around, stalking every conversation, trying to lecture me and everyone. You look straight up stupid chastising and wagging your finger at me and people who share my view. None of us are saying babies shouldn't be breastfeed in public: we're saying WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A WOMAN'S BARE BREAST HANGING OUT AT DINNER. Chill out and stop with the whiny, dramatic, MISPLACED chastising.
Well put @jacquesvol. My Mom, and my sisters, all had no problem feeding in public underneath a blanket or something. What kind of woman would want to draw that kind of attention to herself anyway?
So you think you're entitled to force people to hide themselves?
*applause*
You nor your children or elders should not have to witness nudity, and "shut up/look away" while you are uncomfortable. There' nothing wrong with breastfeeding but trying to force people to be okay with your breast hanging out completely IN PUBLIC were any and everyone can see? THAT'S ENTITLEMET.
I don't get horny from seeing a baby being breast fed. Who does?
No I offended by the notion that you compare breastfeeding as a sexual thing. Also seeing the way you have abused others for disagreeing sickens me. Every mother has the right to feed their child. A breastfeeding mother should tell anyone who disagrees to f**k off.
-_- This post never states that the act of a mother feeding her baby with her breast is sexual. Please get your facts straight before you start sputtering an emotional, hypersensitive reply. Nowhere does this post state or imply that "no mother has a right to feed their child" nor does it even disagree with breastfeeding. It simply disagrees with the fact that the general public, including other children, should have to "deal with" seeing a woman's exposed breast and nipple. Your tone is so emotional.
I didn't abuse others for disagreeing with me. I simply firmly held my position and didn't stand for being disrespected or condescended for my viewpoint.
I'm okay with it
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Hahah I know hun. Had to put it where I could lol
tattooedhandfetwww.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1519676-why-is-it-wrong-to-breastfeed-in-a-restaurant-no-nazis im sure your tired of the subject lol
Any baby is entitled to eat in the same room as you.
Are you entitled to chase breastfeeding women an their babies away? Is that your entitlement?
@BellePepper
Indeed, sexualizing it is gross, not breastfeeding.
I just want someone to explain and justify the sexualization of breastfeeding to me but no one has any answers :c
@BellePepper
Breasts are sexualized because they are anxiously covered up in the USA. Thus a bare nipple is seldom seen.
Butts were also sexualized until many girls started wearing skimpy bikinis. Now less people care about a butt.
But when they're doing the least sexy thing possible... Are people SO sex starved that they're like "omg I think I saw her nip nop around that baby's huge annoying head!"?
And (I'm totes not saying you're wrong here I'm just looking for perspective) aren't butts kind of going through a huge resurgence on the sexy scale?
@BellePepper
Some people seem to live in the fifties where it concrmerns nipples but don't object to Kardashians..
beats me.
Lol! So blame the FCC. I can live with that XD
READ THOUROHLY before you decide to be dramatic and try to gain applause with dramatic, misplaced one-liners.
The post is not about breastfeeding in general, it's about being in a RESTARAUNT with your BREAST HANGING OUT as there are children, elders, and couples trying to have a meal. This post does not dedignify or speak against the act breastfeeding. Get your facts straight before you start throwing out dramatic assumptions as if this is a court room and your sitting in a giant black robe.
@BellePepper This post is not about 'the sexualization of breastfeeding: it's not about a baby's mouth on a nipple. It's about those mothers who are so self-centered and focused on their entitlement to breastfeed whenever, that they lack respect and consideration for others when they don't cover up the baby's head and LITTLE BOYS AND LITTLE GIRLS can see her bare breast. -_- Can you people not read? You are focusing on an entirely different concept.
Anonymous Asker, You're one of the people sexualizing breastfeeding here.
There are people sexualizing that on the internet?
So what? There are foot fetishists too. Is that a reason to prohibit sandals or naked feet?
Little boys and girls have seen it from birth, maybe the first 'thing' they saw closely was a nipple, which fed them; it's 100% natural, it's NOT porn.
Elders have seen it all.
No, I'm not. Just because I am not catering to your beliefs on this topic doesn't mean I'm sexualizing breastfeeding. Stop putting words in my mouth, trying to tell me what my beliefs are, and speaking as if your ASSUMPTIONS are facts when in fact, THEY ARE NOT.
If you want to obsess, blabber, and lecture about breastfeeding then go make your own post where you can scold and reprimand people who don't mirror you precise thoughts.
Like I said, this post is NOT about the sexualization of breastfeeding so stop acting like a naggy mosquito and trying to derail the topic as if I came in here proclaiming that women shouldn't be allowed to breastfeed in public. -_-
When you start thinking outside of your own skull and give up on your misplaced agenda, then we can continue this conversation.
@Esplorare if the question is not about the sexualization of breastfeeding, then why is that your primary (and pretty much only) point against it?
@Mesonfielde You are too eager to be argumentative and try to debate and to be quite honest, I don't have the time or energy to sit on GAG and go back and forth with you for an extended amount of time. Maybe that type of availability in your schedule exists or it's how you choose to enjoy your free time but many others are not interested in sitting on a screen listening to you try and tell them what they think and how they feel.
It's not the most pleasant thing to be around but if the kids got to feed then they have to feed. Much better than if she made them wait until they were in private to do it since the baby would probably wail like crazy because it was hungry.
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1519676-why-is-it-wrong-to-breastfeed-in-a-restaurant-no-nazis this guy has the right idea
If girls exposing breast in public is illegal, than breastfeeding is illegal. You have to get it out and then you have to get it back in, and while breastfeeding it is probably visible too, and it just feels inappropriate even if it is totally covered. Everybody knows whats going on when a woman is breastfeeding. And I find it to be a very intimate thing that should be kept in a private setting not mingle it with the public outside where certain social norms are expected.
Simply GET BABY FORMULA IN A BOTTLE before you leave the house, so there are no excuses that the baby was very thirsty, or the baby was going to die, etc.
Otherwise you get a fine.
I was gonna say yes till you said breast exposed i'm sorry but nobody wants to see a women naked breast feed while eating O_O
@Jaydog666 If I blocked everyone, then you wouldn't be able to stalk, intrude, and whine on all of these posts, now would you? :) I blocked you because your disposable thoughts are boring, uninteresting, and I'm not interested in stroking some unstable user's ego. This QA boldly thinks your mouth is unproductive and that there is nothing to gain from your presence and you keep proving me right. :) If you don't like being dismissed, then be more mindful of how you present yourself, sweetie.
I don't mind seeing breastfeeding if it's only women and small children because that's what it's for - when it's around men or younger guys that's when it becomes inappropriate because of the sexual aspect of breasts.
I don't know.. I think A mostly. It's a little gross..
I don't care either wayzzzzz @Jaydog666 . I have stated before I love my haters. They've made me who I am-a confident, tough bitch and I'm glad.
I didn't disagree with anything, you drama qween. @Jaydog666
Disagreements had nothing to do with it: you were an egotistical drama queen fishing and begging for applause and compliments. I wasn't interested. I dismissed you. You're crying to everyone and throwing a fit like a 3 year old, desperately begging to be recognized.
You are 25 dude: ACT LIKE IT.
You're so right!
Let the poor guy beg for attention. He ain't get any of it.
You're seriously begging for attention, ya know..@Jaydog666.. I don't block people for not agreeing with what I say. I'm sorry to hurt your ass but I only block them when they're being rude towards me and when they're being pervs and send me creepy messages.
A suckling is natural, not gross.
Humans are gross from the core. Embrace it.
What's the matter with you guys? 1) @Jaydog you need to stop, seriously. It's okay. Everyone has his one opinion. 2) @jacquesvol Seeing boobs is a little gross, I said. Breast-feeding should be legal to do in public but not everyone wants to see boobs. 3) @Mesonfielde Agreed.
tatooedheadhandfet
hats the matter with myself and @jacquesvol @BellePepper @tatoorfheadhandfet is that we were all asked a question on gager to which we all gave a honest and frank answer to which to our surprise found that if we dared have an opinion that wasn't in line with the @asker our views were dismissed, the asker then blocked us from commenting on our own opinions just after making sure she had the last word and insulting us all because we disagreed and did not share her view of how the world. This woman is a bully and people dont like to be insulted and her actions are an abuse of this site.
@Jaydog666 What goes on between me and other users is none of your business despite your desperate, butt-hurt attempt to force me to hear your voice when YOU HAVE BEEN DISMISSED. I don't have to justify my conversations with others to you, sweetie. Get over yourself and get over the fact that you don't get to participate on this post and your voice will not be acknowledged and considered by the QA. You don't get to have a dialogue with me. Get over it.
@performerwannabe Jaydog666 is the anonymous 25-29 year old who gave a long, speech like, very dramtic answer. I dismissed him stating that I was not interested in his dramatic way of speech which apparently was too much for his pathetic ego. So he's been spending the past SEVENTY-TWO HOURS obsessing over this post, stalking my conversations with others, and desperately trying to make everyone on this post think negatively of me to make himself feel better about the fact that I'm not interested in his mouth.
HE is the one who has acted like a bully harassing me like some abnormal, psycho stalker on Lifetime Movie network lol
Anyhow, thanks for having a mind of your own and seeing through his dramatic, grade-F act :P
You don't have to defend your opinion to people who are not humble enough to accept when someone doesn't agree with them
And yet 5 people downvoted me for stating my opinion. How dumb is that? Anyway, I'm done with him and all the haters. They can do whatever they want. I don't even hate them back. You can't hate someone you don't care about.
The other day at dinner in a really nice restaurant, I was talking quite loudly about women eating their placenta. I think that's more inappropriate than breastfeeding in public.
I think a woman should be able to feed her child wherever the fuck she pleases!!!
I think that those women need to get over themselves and realize the world doesn't revolve around them and their baby. If I am out with my niece or children, I don't appreciate some entitled woman pulling out her breast so the whole room can see. Feed your child but cover up. Other people shouldn't be made uncomfortable while they are paying to enjoy a meal.
I remain firm on my statement! If you don't like it, then don't look!
Breast feeding is ok as long they cover it and not let other people see it.
It's ONLY a nipple, it's innocent.
@jacquesvol I will accept your comment only if you flash your pair of nipples to the public too. I dare you to go shirtless... How's that?
@Eternallylucky
Been there, done that. I don't get all worked up over a nipple.
@jacquesvol I don't care what you think.
""I will accept your comment""
""I don't care what you think.""
So much about accepting the comment, lol.
@Mesonfielde you are a nobody
@Eternallylucky well dayum lmao
Oh my! A child might see a process that (s) he probably did only a couple years before!
It's actually best that children see women breastfeeding so they get accustomed to what breasts are actually for
If you want to completely avoid appeasing the fetishes of men you will have to literally cover yourself from head to toe.
Oh wait, I forgot. Veil fetishists and burqa porn are literally a thing that exists. https://wipipedia.org/index.php/Veil_fetishism looks like the only sure-fire way you could completely avoid appeasing male fetishes is by not going out in public at all.
A woman feeding her child is the most natural thing in the world. How can you look at that and sexualize any part of it? THAT'S the gross part of the situation. *cold shudder*
Did you read?
I don't think so. I didn't say there was anything wrong with breastfeeding in public: I said I don't appreciate being out to eat with my children and a woman literately having her breast out at a table for everyone in the room to see while we are trying to have a meal. People need to stop trying to encourage a level of entitlement that is straight up rude and disrespectful to others.
LOL I read your rant and I mean what I wrote. A *mother* *feeding* her *child* isn't sexual. If you think it is, you need to seriously reevaluate your stance on sexuality and the human body. If you think a mother caring for her child is rude and disrespectful, then I really hate to know what you think about hungry screaming children.
I find it helps people listen to what I say when I don't call them rude names. Especially when I'm making an argument about what I consider rude :)
Have you thought any more on my stance? I'll put it here for you again so it's easier for you to read.
"LOL I read your rant and I mean what I wrote. A *mother* *feeding* her *child* isn't sexual. If you think it is, you need to seriously reevaluate your stance on sexuality and the human body. If you think a mother caring for her child is rude and disrespectful, then I really hate to know what you think about hungry screaming children."
I wouldn't do it, but I don't care if others do it.
"but forcing someone else's child to take note of that activity and taking away their right to explain what's going on"
I'd say it's the perfect opportunity to explain that situation to your child.. especially for prudish parents who wouldn't talk about it otherwise unless they had one more child and the older child can watch.
It is no other parents right or place to dictate when and how their child experiences certain talks. Being "prudish" has nothing to do with it for some parents. It's the fact that a woman is so entitled that she is deciding to take away other parent's rights to inform at their own discretion and infringing upon their parenting methods because all she can think about is herself.
agree to disagree
I won't lie, a women at the table next to mine at a restaurant breastfeeding while i am eating would be unpleasant.
Like men can generally take a piss on the grass in some public places, but they should take it around the corner if it might bother someone.
I personally find it inappropriate when a woman's breast is exposed. I don't want to drink my morning coffee or eat lunch forced to look at someone's breast and baby attached to it. If you have to breastfeed, don't expose your breast or go to the restroom, or even better pump milk at home and bottle feed baby with it in public
As long as she has that covering thing. I don't know what its called to be honest.
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