Proper punishment for my daughters?

[Cozzi01]

I have twin daughters who just turned 17 years old in June. Their mother hasn't been in the picture since they were a couple months old. I have a wife who I have been married to since they were 6. We have a 14 month old son together. My twin daughters have been on this app called Periscope which is a broadcasting app. They were stripping for thousands of men on the internet, and masturbating on there late last night. My wife and I had no idea about this. The Periscope account has 14.9k followers. My daughters today around 6:30pm said that they were going to meet up with one of their guy friend (who I've met) from school and he was going to pick them up and they were going to skyzone. Trusting them, I let them go with this guy. However, about 20 minutes after they left, my wife went to go return a movie to the Redbox down the street at the Walgreens and right behind the Walgreens is a car parked. The car had my daughters in it as well as older guys. My wife said the guys are well into their 20's. One of my daughters had her head bopping up and down (presumably a blowjob) while facing the driver. My wife went up to the car and knocked on the window, all 5 of them had horror on their faces. (3 guys, and my daughters). My wife got my daughters out of the car before anything else happened and drove them home. They were swearing at my wife and went upstairs to their room. I went up there and took away their phones and saw Periscope was still open on one of their phones and the broadcasts had our address on it and their phone numbers. As well as shower time and all this disgusting inappropriate content from last night. My wife and I dont know what to do. We thought since they were almost adults that they could handle a little more freedom. They've been home since 7:30 and it's now 8:07pm. Any ideas on what to do?

[Dim_121]

Scare the pants off of them till they understand how serious the internet thing is! Until they understand it put super glue on their cameras that connect to the internet. If you want to and know a local cop you can ask him to have a serious talk with them about them showing off child porn and leaving their addresses on the internet. As for losing to you two they at least get grounds for all electronics, no TV remote, no unsupervised computer use. When they go out they get a shaperone for a year or two at least it has to be one of their friends that you like and if they want to date a guy then he comes to the door to get them.
You gave them freedom and they abused it so they loose it. As for having no friends over well honestly it is much better to not be so hard on that ground them for a week or two from friends but let them over after that. It is important for teens to be social with their friends and taking them away won't matter to them they will only hate you more for it. As for the electronics no phones for a few months unless they go out with friends and a chaperone.
If they don't get how serious the child porn is talk to your local police and see if you can't get them a jail cell for a night. Also ask a loyer about the legal repercussions of what they did for their future and maybe even have him talk with them.

[Dim_121]

I wish you two luck with them and God bless.

[FallOutBoy2001]

Well, I would get such a beating from my mother if I did that.

I would suggest first, take their doors off, as they clearly cannot be trusted with privacy. Then, take away their phones, computers, or any other electronics, as they also apparently cannot be trusted with those either.

Take EVERYTHING out of their room, except for their mattresses. No games, no sheets or pillows, no anything. Make them earn everythin back. They have disrespected you and their stepmother, they do not deserve anything other than the bare minimum you are required to provide by law.

Finally, ground them for as long as you see fit. No friends, no nothing. They can go to school, work, and sports practice (maybe not even that if they aren't top-notch athletes or going to use it to apply to college) but nothing else.

I know this sounds a bit harsh, but they need to learn their lesson. In conjunction with this, I would suggest digging to the bottom of this, as obviously there's something wrong. You need to correct the underlying issue as well as lay down the law if you truly want the behavior to stop

[SomeGuy37]

When I was their age, we didn't have phones, or internet, or anything like you mention.
I had a cousin, female, close to my age, and we would sometimes sneak out, together, as she lived just down the street. We had the same friends, but we were MUCH MORE discreet, and went into the local woods, or some other place, to make out with our person of interest.
A few times we both got caught (different times, different houses and families) but we both got the same punishment!! Bare-Ass spankings!!
I think it was more humiliating for her than me, but it was pretty convincing!! Once we both got caught twice, and spanked, rosy red, we stopped sneaking out!!
Taking their phones isn't enough! I know it is really uncommon, today, but a humiliating, bare-bottom spanking usually corrects disobedience, I think.
They were doing things naked, or partly naked, so the punishment fits the crime!

[btbc92]

At this point this is very outrageous. Somebody is bound to make this headline news one day on the account of this action. They should get a longer punishment for something like that. Police investigation needs to be addressed as well as these men are older in the 20's if you can. They may be 17, but this has been going on for a very long time under your roof. You have done nothing wrong. From what I gather that they are just rebellious twins. Young women who don't know how to be real women at all. Your going to have to get those two tested for STDs/STI's and pregnancy test as well if they have done vaginal intercourse as well. Let them swear all day and all night. Next step if they don't stop is kicking them out the house and taking this to family court if all other avenues fail. And pray really hard to God that something can be done to change this behavior, because this is going to effect them for a very long time. Those men needs to be locked up. Protect your family at all cost! You don't just got child abductors, we had a amber alert about 12 hours ago where I'm at. You also ave human/sex traffickers as well targeting also. God forbid coercing them into illegal porn! Not a joke! God forbid they get kidnapped, raped, drugged then killed! Because that's whats going to happen if they don't quit it now.

[TokyoGhoulLover]

Daaaaamn dude Im a teenage girl and I'd never do that! -.- I kinda agree with helloitsmethere. If they did not have enough fear of punishment from you growing up, or grew up in a really strict household but suddenly had this freedom teenagers tend to get a little buck wild. But my parents wooo! I had a few incidents where y'now I do the typical teenager stuff search 'Why's one bewb smaller than the other" and such, but as a parent u had to have put the fear in God into those daughters man, I'm sorry but you may have to unleash the beast that you have never released before. Don't by all means beat them by animals. But you've got to express dominance over them somehow as the head of the household. Some shouting never experienced before, A little door slamming, I don't know look at the Gandalf "BILBO BAGGINS IM NOT TRYING TO ROB YOU" speech for reference on your acting. Make them fear you once, and they'll respect themselves if nothing on an Id ego stage that they... apparently didn't develop during childhood. At least that's how us carribbean kids do it :^)

[TokyoGhoulLover]

But I'm not suggesting beating. By all means they're too old for that I think, but once again I dont really know, problem behavior was sorted out like this when I was a toddler with one or two smacks here or there, and no problems since. But definitely some in your face shouting and good door slamming so they at least realize how this affected you, how this could affect them later on in life and that their actions have consequences.

[BleedBlue1981]

I think it would be best to email Periscope - help@periscope. tv and tell them you want the account deleted since users can't manually do it. Since they have a lot of followers on there, its very likely that people screenshotted the address and phone numbers especially if the broadcasts weren't deleted and are just sitting in other users feed. This is a huge problem and your daughters are very retarded for doing this. Also during broadcasts many users can screenshot your daughters and do god knows what with those pictures. I think emailing Periscope and getting the account deleted is step number 1. Step number 2 would be to have any other social media deactivated. Step 3 would be giving them flip phones to use - you can find them at best buy under cricket or virgin mobile. Step 4 would be to take any access to the internet away for a while. Step 5 no seeing friends except for at school. Step 6 you and your wife need to have a serious talk about the dangers of what they are doing and how it can and will affect their future

[Bethjo192]

I'm so sorry about this. This is a very difficult thing to figure out the proper punishment. First off I would recommend they talk to someone like a councilor to help them understand why they feel the need to expose themselves this way.
As far as punishment I would at least disconnect their phone data and maybe turn off the Wi-Fi to prevent this from happening again until they get a chance to talk to someone. I would be afraid of doing anything to harsh as far as punishment because they might just use that as fuel to rebel even farther away from you and your wife.
I hope this helped a little.

[ak666]

I'm completely out of my league here but to me it sounds like your daughters need more counseling and guidance.

I think they're past an age where you can simply punish them and hope they learn something important out of it.

They have their values all screwed up and I think what they need is a guide they can look up to who can show them the right way. Mere punishment without that guidance will probably just build up resentment and a feeling that you don't understand their lifestyle.

[HandsomeRaj]

1. Almost legally adult teenagers (gender immaterial) & you want to punish them to achieve what? You'll only make them not just stubborn but also obstinate & rebel.
2. Best to do as a parent is enlighten them about
2.1 STD
2.2 sexual violence like they may not want to do someone but will be forced by more than one this get hurt / harmed etc
3. Punishment is not going to solve anything here, will only worsen things
4. And no matter what as a father stand by them should God forbid anything goes wrong
5. If you pray then pray that they find mates that love them as they are

[falafelany1]

What a frustrating situation. As a 19 year old I know that is wrong and I completely understand why you and your wife are upset. I would never dream of doing anything of the sort. You need to sit down as a family and discuss this and explain to them you are worried for their safety and well being. Ask them Why they did it and figure out a suitable punishment for them that will prevent them from talking to these men. Maybe supervised phone usage only for a few weeks?

[ElissaDido]

If I were their mother I would:
- Take away all their gadgets (phones, PC...)
- Maybe slap them the moment I find out
- Don't give them money anymore
- Don't let them out of the house for a year and try to put some sense in their head

[TheDevilInside]

Take away all their gadget privileges for a certain amount of time and then when giving it back, tell then you want them to delete that periscope profile. If you can manage to get that Website banned from your house, that's great. And should you find out they haven't done what you said, the gadget and online fast would last twice longer. Give them a Nokia 3310 instead for communications purposes

[SovereignessofVamps]

I'm not sure if I beleive this BUT if it is real; They're almost 18. I don't think you can stop them, and they may have kept themsleves anon.

[Red_Arrow]

Their names may not have been given, but as he said, their address and their phone numbers were given.

[SovereignessofVamps]

@Red_Arrow Hopefully they lied about those, but there's so many people on there I doubt anyone would remember anything.

[Red_Arrow]

According to the Asker, the actual address and phone numbers were given.

[SovereignessofVamps]

@Red_Arrow I reread but didn't see that. Hopefully they lied. I'd believe this more if it wasn't so detailed and he didn't say 14k followers.

[Red_Arrow]

@SovereignessofVamps - "I went up there and took away their phones and saw Periscope was still open on one of their phones and the broadcasts had our address on it and their phone numbers." So IF this is for real, then they definitely gave the family address and the individual girl's phone numbers. I have no idea about the veracity of this question, but recently have seen much on GAG about Periscope, and this conforms to what has been said. Also do not know about number of followers, but it would not be that hard with some of these sites.

[SovereignessofVamps]

@Red_Arrow Then those girls are ridiculous then. You should always lie when you post sexual stuff online, let alone with your real body.

[Red_Arrow]

Ridiculous or not, the claim is that they did that. If this question is not bullshit, then the girls have placed themselves and their family at risk, and this crap HAS to stop.

[BleedBlue1981]

If they made a broadcast with their address and another one with their phone number it stays in anyone who follows them feed for 24 hours unless the broadcast (s) gets deleted. It sounds like the broadcast (s) weren't deleted when the father found out. Anyone can screenshot it without having to go onto the actual broadcast itself, if they know the username. Also, when you click on someones profile it shows how many followers they have, how many people they are following, and how many broadcasts they currently have up.

[SovereignessofVamps]

@BleedBlue1981 If they had made fake names and addresses it wouldn't have been such an issue. Hopefully the girls know better now.

[bente2]

I'd say ask them why they felt the need to do what they did. Having sex is fine, even with older guys, if it's consented. It isn't okay that they lied to you about hwere they were going, and the app thing is definitely not okay and might hurt them later in the future. Tey to explain the impact it could have on their lives. Like sending nudes, those vids can be traced and could make a college not want them, a job not take them, etc. Make it clear to them you do not want to see this ever again or they can leave the house and fens for themselves. Also, I'd maybe randomly check their phones to see if they have the app still or not.

[Jamie1998]

Hmm.. they act like the rest of the underage sluts on there. Periscope does nothing about it either. Disgusting. Ground them

[kittykatbrat]

Tbh, I actually feel sorry for your daughters and feel they are acting out due to past trauma.

[Bigclit]

take the phones away and disconnect the internet. have them disable/delete all social media accounts and remove the doors in their room. take away the computer laptop tablets etc that's what i'd do and let her friends parent know she's not allowed online

[Red_Arrow]

This is a good start.

[Prof_Don]

in my opinion, in this instance the girls need more guidance and wisdom, than punishment. Punishment will only make them rebel harder!

[Doffydood]

Damn. If this is real, I feel so sorry for you, I really do :(
I agree with taking away the door and most of the other punishments, but I think it will be important to not let your attitude towards them freeze up around them. Be nice to them, but enforce the punishments as you would.

[jacquesvol]

They're 17. You were 18 when you impregnated their mother.
One year difference. What punishment did you merit?

[jacquesvol]

Put them on BC.

[helloitsmethere]

Actually, he was 19. Maybe he doesn't want the same thing to happen to his daughters? Duh...

[jacquesvol]

@helloitsmethere 19 when they were born. Probability says he was 18.

[jacquesvol]

Probability says he was 18 at the moment of conception.

[helloitsmethere]

Could be... that's why he is protective of his daughters like that. You don't want your children making the same mistakes you did

[jacquesvol]

@helloitsmethere "Maybe he doesn't want the same thing to happen to his daughters?" BC is a better way than punishment.

[brennalynne]

He was 18 - a legal adult. They are 17 and are still minors. Maybe he wants a better life for his daughters and them not to go down the wrong path.

[es20490446e]

Ask them to take precautions. At least they will hear that.

[Titanic1912]

I'd have all privacy taken. No door on their rooms, no phones, no TV, no friends, must shower with supervision, no NOTHING!!! They won't get any of it back! Never! Don't leave them home alone! As long as they live under my roof, they obey my rules and regulations!!! I won't hit or spank them because that's child abuse. I'm going to pry in on their conversations on the phone. Part of a dad's job is prying.

When they move out, they can do whatever they want. If they get caught and taken to jail, I'm not going to bail them out! And I'll visit them and say, "I told you so! You didn't listen, you're paying for it"!

[helloitsmethere]

My mom would have whooped my ass into next year if I EVER did that lol
But in all seriousness, take away their phones, put a password or change the passwords on them so they can't access them easily.

[lime_rampljuset]

Take their phones, talk to the cops, and send your daughters to do community service.

[Waffles731]

You need to go over birth control and how to avoid pregnancy with them right the hell now, they are 17 and soon you won't be able to do it,
Honestly you have to think of Damage control I'd get them an IUD cause they are going to go right back to sleeping around when they turn 18 and you DO NOT want a grandkid and the IUD will prevent that

[Summer_Bunny]

Damn! They make my teenage self look like a saint... I don't know what to do? Thank God I'm not a parent! If i was in your situation tbh I'd probably smack them and embarrass them.