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Why is your "seed" so important?

In the Bible, on TV, in movies, and in every day life, males explicitly or implicitly express an obsession with their own personal semen and the transmission of their own personal DNA. For example, trying to make all girls monogamous. You want a girl (or many) who's horny as heck to want lots of sex with you and you alone, and yet be cold to everyone else. (Female nature is not monogamous) You largely don't care about children, especially adopted, step or "bastard" children, and only care if a child is "of your own seed" (and even then, many of you don't actually WANT children, and stop the "caring" when you're done ejaculating, and don't invest very much into learning about child development or into providing for your seed beyond conception, or making a better world for your seeds to grow up in, and many of you even partake in behaviour that directly damages your seed) Can any male give a logical reason (concerning all of humanity) why your seed is, in your supposed opinion, more important than any other man's seed? And if so, do you put true effort into nurturing said seeds to healthy maturity? Why don't you consider other mens' seeds as valuable? And if you can't give any logical answer, why, then, are you so obsessed with female loyalty/monogamy and limiting female sexuality and competing with other males' DNA? Is it just something you learned from your fathers and believe even though it makes no sense? Or do you genuinely think your seed is extraordinary? Is there any real societal benefit to this philosophy? And if so, what is it? What's the future you envision? Or are you (as I suspect) still functioning from a non-rational animal drive that you yourself don't comprehend? Is it possible this is why we, as a species, now have overpopulation and ecological strain to contend with? Have you ever considered this point of view before? Thanks.
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  • Personally I am not thinking too highly of myself, so I acknowledge there there is men out their with better seed/DNA then me, while their is others who are inferior to me, so I don't think too lowly about myself as well, I am more or less know my true value. I am okey with those who are better then me have more children, but that's not the case, in fact those now days those who have shitty people breed more, that's why the world get worse and worse. If a woman chose someone better over me, I am more or less okey with that, and can be happy for her, but if she go with some trash over me, it's foolish of her, and I am not going to take her after he used her, I am not a fan of used goods, and of women who go with shitty men, because of poor judgment. Most sluts, go with low quality men, which makes then even more dirty to good men. The main reason that most men, including myself, don't want an other men child, is for the sake of not being suckers, and it's more for the sake of family legacy then an humanity legacy. In the end of the day it's the seed/DNA who is decided who is the real parent and not who is taking care of the child, so it's more important. Females are much more monogamous by nature, as they are the ones who likely to pay much more dearly for poor mate chose, and they are the one who going to rise the child totally alone if they have him in non-monogamous breeding, a woman can only get pregnant once every nine months, while a male can impregnate multiple women in one day.

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    • Females are not more monogamous. In fact that myth was born fairly recently in human history, and has since been disproven by modern science.

  • good question, its a mess to me because I decided long ago I didn't want kids and still haven't, although my mind changed on that a bit. I have no kids and I'm not the possessive domineering type, which may be the ones saying this stuff writing it.

    I would take someone elses kids, and I have... but she became a friend not a wife, I still nurture the kids, just not as a parent.

    I think it is a power thing, to have your seed go on. Are you or anyone else talking about the people who were never born? or weren't famous? maybe it is an arrogance and pride issue.

    Were all competitive, and winning a good woman sure makes us feel good.
    Loyalty is important to us as it is to women. It means the kids are ours and we put investment into us. If they aren't ours, then it is... well hurtful to know it isn't us, but I can't say why that is. If I know they aren't it is one thin, but to be lied, deceived and cheated is something else.

    I think Jesus seed would be better than all of us, but we'd still be in competition.

    You re digging deep into our mind with this quesiton, you will need to buy me a Margarita to release the full answer cause it isn't coming to me right now.

    • Thanks for the answer. I don't condone deception at all. I know men adopt and nurture children who aren't their's, but throughout history there seemed to be stigma attached to that and I just don't get WHY. The answer of "arrogance" makes sense in the individual, but it doesn't explain the cultural phenomenon. Men will judge and berate other men for raising children that aren't their's, and boys who didn't know who their fathers were were customarily ostracized. I can't wrap my head around it.

    • core human emotions are shame, fear and anger. it may be shame... that the child isn't theirs, fear they won't obey or be theirs (father comes back for kids and woman), anger at the situation. not sure, deep question. you must be studying psychology:) I have not seen that behavior at all in my lifetime. My fathers brother was adopted out and apparently well cared for. The owner of Wendy's was adopted. I have no reference points for men being rejected by new fathers. I have various of reference points for boys being hurt by fathers, including their own children. that's anothe rmatter. not sure what culture you are in... Bottom line, a person has love in them or they don't... it is possible such behavior wasn't well developed in those familes/cultures/enviornments. There are even cases of animals taking in other types of animals or other animals children... don't think rejection is universal. It may be due to sense of compatability?

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  • Well, why do women compete with each other? To get the best guys... with the best seed. I think we all do it, we just express it differently.

    • Why compete when there's plenty to go around? A man with "good seed" can be shared among women.

    • Except he has limited money, as do I. Can't afford to raise everyone's kids, can we? No. And that's why women compete. Limited resources. And don't you think that's hypocritical? Yeah we could share -- awesome for us, right? But we have the advantage of knowing we got good "seed." Our genes are guaranteed to be in the next generation. A guy's genes aren't Imagine some cuck raising some other man's genetic material. The cuck doesn't know that his genes die with him. He failed at the most primal level. He might as well never have existed. And he basically just worked as a slave for another man. Just look at other species, like lions. If a male lion wins another male lion and becomes the new alpha, the first thing that happens is the murder of all cubs that aren't his. He's increasing his chances of his genes being in the next generation. Read the Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins. It's basically about this, evolution, etc.

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  • Let us get down to basics...
    The human is made up of two parts
    The shell (flesh) spirit of life (that which keeps it alive)
    For every seed there is a spirit prepared to match it.
    The flesh holds the seed, whatever you care to believe holds the spirit.
    The two shall combine as one on earth.( you can probably guess how)
    Wasting a seed wastes a spirit
    That is what is so important about your seed

    Just my opinion

    • By seed you mean sperm cells?

  • I don't know what you're going on about, because my "seed" means jack shit to me. I don't want kids, and I will never want kids. But I do want to get married and I do want to have sex with my wife. I'm not "obsessed with my own semen". I simply enjoy sex, and ejaculation just happens to be a part of sex.

    The importance of my wife's loyalty has nothing to do with my "seed". Yes, I want a woman who only has eyes for me. Is that so hard to wrap your head around?

    • I'm with that! I'm guessing you're under 40. I'm not knocking monogamy, I'm married and sex only my husband. :) Your response indicates this question isn't aimed at you. Pretty much I'm perplexed by men who still associate sex with reproduction, when we have the sophistication to take reproduction out of the equation.

    • Oh yes, well in that case, I agree. I'm even considering getting a vasectemy when I'm old enough.

  • players, use that excuse to have sex because some women buy it, and are stupid to give into players, because some women are obsessed with getting pregnant. or whatever.

  • Why are your eggs so important?

    Sounds like you copy and pasted notes from a gender study class, so cool.

    • I've never taken a gender studies class. I don't think my eggs in particular are important, I'm not ever going to use them. Though from a young age I took care of myself, my bodily health, in case I ever did want to use them. You didn't answer my question! Of course, I understand if it may not apply to you. Not all men in my experience are/remain baby-crazy.

    • I don't want kids bright now. but I value my seed. It's the thing in my body that I can use if I want to help make another person that would be a little Newaza. Get it? Do you really not get how a man would prize his seed? Maybe take a gender study class, might help you.

    • I feel ya. But the little person wouldn't be a Newaza, it'd be a whole new person. Half Newaza at best, genetically speaking, a quarter each of Newaza's mom n pop, and the birther's mom n pop too, bits passed down from the grands and the greats and great-greats from all sides. I got into this when I read Schopenhauer's assertion females care more for the well-being of the species than we do the experience of the individual. What individual but himself? If our species is made up of individuals, it makes sense to care about them all. He posits that men are superior in rationality, because narcissism is rational. But... I must disagree. Without an interest in society/humanity as a whole, couldn't our species run the risk of extinction, just due to advanced folly? (Like nuclear fallout, extreme water/air pollution, mishandled biological weaponry etc.). It would then follow that all human genes and legacies would be destroyed, rendering thousands of years of fucking pointless. That'd

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  • Same reason women don't like it when their babies get switched at the hospital or having to care for a child her man conceived by cheating on her...

    • I'm not referring to having someone else's child without knowing, I'm talking about consciously caring for 'someone else's' child. I would ask women who are opposed to caring for others' children the same thing, but in general women don't appear as competitive in this regard, and women make up a majority of those in child-care professions.

    • Lol using women being the majority in childcare professions is an absolute cop out. Men can't work in that industry without being accused of being pedos.

    • Are they? Why's that?

  • I think it is totally an animalic drive! For evolution, it is important to spread your seed. Not to care for it, just to spread it. And I'm sure we still got this male instinct in us. Beside that, I think that most guys dont care about their seed at all! Its not about the ejaculation, it is about the orgasm. Without orgasm, no guy would care to spread his seed.

    And sperm is a very important thing to us guys. Not because of the semen, but because it is part of our orgasm, it is the embodiment of our orgasm and pleasure. I think it is hard to understand for a woman. So, sperm touches men on many deep emotions and instincts.

    But I have also been with a few sperm hater girls, and interesting things happen when you deny a guy his ejaculation ;)

  • Holy shit, one question at a time. I'm not going to read all of that.

    Our seed is important because it's a future child and we need to make sure that child gets the right mother to care for it.

    • No, why does YOUR seed matter more than some other dude's seed? Yours in particular. Why does it matter?

  • You're generalizing.

    • Best response. ;)

  • Because someone else's kid is less likely to care about me when I'm old. My own child will bare my name and carry on my memory. Nobody wants to be forgotten.

    If women were less monogamous that will just cause fighting among men and women alike. Loyalty and respect is crucial to a balanced society.
    Things like polyamory just cause jealousy and uncertainty which is bad for stress levels and health.
    As far as population goes, if women are with more men, they will have more children. I've met many women who keep having more kids because their old relationships haven't worked out and they end up with 4 or 5 kids to 4 or 5 different fathers who never really know if it is their kid.
    THAT causes overpopulation and the children of these circumstances are statistically less likely go succeed in life. They often end up in lives of crime or homeless

    • Not all biological children are guaranteed to care about nor care FOR their biological parent (s). "As far as population goes, if women are with more men, they will have more children" I've been with perhaps 60 men and have no children.

    • And we live in the Information Age. Your memory can be recorded onto an SD Card. Who really pays attention to and values a name anymore, and why did anyone to begin with? A name should bare significance if someone actually accomplishes something. Impregnating a broad isn't really an accomplishment.

    • Those excuses are all irrelevant cop outs. My answer remains the same.

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  • Chicks be all about the cum.. lol

  • it is a lineage thing for the guys to procreate and continue on the family name.

    • Why does that matter is what I'm asking

    • something on the masculine side makes it something important. natural testosterone

    • That doesn't make it sound any more important than it did 20 minutes ago. What bearing does "a man's lineage" have on anything? Seriously. I'm asking a serious earnest question.

  • actually the population size we have today is due to the industrial revolution, for ten thousand years our species has been roughly at the same size two billion, after the industrial revolution we went from two billion to seven billion in a very short time period.

    why would i ever provide for a child that is not my own? if my woman would betray me and have a child with another man then she is a backstabbing traitor bitch and i dont want her anymore because she is not reliable. i want a woman to commit to me, if you dont want to commit to a man then that is your choice.

    • True but we have contraceptives now. And for the record I'm married and loyal and have never been unfaithful, as a matter of preference. I'm only fascinated by the idea that one person's 'seed', and its survival, should be regarded as more significant than another's. Why? We, and our kin, all live in the world together.

    • Contaceptives have been used for thousands of years. Herbs, honey and even condoms made of pigs bladder have been used. I dont want to raise another ones child it is shameful because you are a cuck then.

    • Where does the shame spring from, though? What logic is behind those feelings of shame? How is being kind and nurturing to a little human being shameful? On the surface this appears completely irrational. That's why I'm still seeking an explanation.

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  • Simple.

    The entire purpose of reproduction is to ensure that your genes survive to the next generation. Period. That's it.

    A promiscuous woman is more likely to cuckold you (the WORST possible thing that can ever happen to a man), thus preventing you from spreading your genes to the next generation. The same applies for bastards or other men's children; you don't get anything from raising them. They don't help you spread your genes.

    All male mating, dating, and marriage strategies revolve around this simple aspect. That's why men respond very violently to cheating. I, personally, would likely be so enraged that I'd kill the man my mate was cheating with--painfully and brutally.

    • Right, but thanks to contraceptives and otherwise not living in ignorance in caves and huts anymore, we can enjoy sex without the necessity of reproduction. Men have sex because it feels good. It feels good because nature wanted us to make babies, but for centuries we've been duping nature, and doing it without making babies. Now we can fly to the moon. You get NOTHING out of investing in children irrespective of their biological make-up? Seriously? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. What are you guaranteed to get out of raising "your own" children? They aren't guaranteed to survive beyond you.

    • What do I get out of raising other men's children? What? I want to raise my kids, not some other bastard. Also, I'm a Catholic who does not use contraception.

    • I think its unwise to be uconcerned with the well-being of children due to a lack of biological relations. If one does have biological children, their children will inevitably live alongside children of other men, and reep their influence and effect, for better or worse. I'm very conscious of my mortality and aware that the world our generation leaves behind will be out of our hands upon death. There's absolutely no guarantee your children will survive to adulthood nor that they will reproduce.

  • woah you are way off hun lol and
    the earth is not over crowded for the first part we have plenty of space trust me, everyone on the earth could fit in florida there's enough space

    everything you just said is wrong i mean extremely wrong
    we care about are children a lot
    now as for someone else's kids we still care but it will never be like our own kid

    and don't get me started on investing we invest more then the women trust me

    the issue with you is you are seeing it from
    and evolutionary perspective

    I see it from a biblical perspective, like in today's society women take kids away from the father, and then say the father is bad when she is the one pushing him away from the child, in the bible the women has no right to separate the father from the child

    its actually considered kidnapping, and the punishment is death for what she is doing, and the guy can choose to kill or try to work things out with her, most men don't know this

    and i want one women and that's it
    and I want her to have 1 one and that's it
    it has nothing to do with competition for DNA or seed
    that's stupid


    • Over-population has more implications than those on space or land. For a civilized society (and now a global society) population-growth can be hazardous to the stability of various systems. Underpopulation can too. In some places labor forces are disappearing. In others there's public health hazards with far-reaching impact.

    • Is English your first language?

    • look hun my GOD said fill the earth there is a ton of space left on this planet, and a ton of food too eat also, the government just believes they can control the land. What you don't know is the whole over population movement is not true is was a lie to push an agenda study your history the human race repeats the same stupid shit over and over again cause there dumb

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  • It's a primal thing that carried on. The desire to have offspring and pass on our traits. That's really all it is

    • Right... but if we are sentient self-aware creatures living in an Information Age, such behaviour is a bit flagrant wouldn't you say? That's almost like foregoing using fire (or electricity) to cook food because such analytical intelligent behavior isn't in line with our roots from our distant ancestors in the wild.

    • I'm gonna be honest and tell you that I don't know what the hell you just said. You're talking way too smart for me. All I know is there's a lot of things we humans to today that our ancestors used to do and scientists aren't very sure why we haven't stopped doing it. Things like the enjoyment of watching fire, unconsciously changing your tone of voice depending in who you're talking to, our desire to be in groups, staring at things, etc. The desire to pass on your seed is just one of those things. Kinda like how most girls dream of becoming a mother one day. It's an instinctual desire.

    • To my knowledge, it's not factual that "most girls dream of being a mother." In my personal experience, as a female, that's far from true. If I think back to my girlhood, most girls I knew, including myself, were uninterested in motherhood. Some outright dreaded it (rightfully so?).

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  • This seems like another hate post against men. The men you've met are not like us all.

    • I don't hate men, I'm perplexed by them. And being perplexed, or confronted with illogical behavior, frustrates me. So I seek to understand.

  • I eat my seed

    • Hot.

    • But i like to be forced to eat it up because it's kind of disgusting for us, i like to have a dominant bossy girl order me to eat it from the floor or from her boots.

  • Hey EVERY SEED IS SACRED, AND MOST GUYS SQUANDER THEIR SEEDS ( WHILE. VERY YOUNG, DUMB AND FULL OF SEED THAT WANTS TO SEE THE WORLD PLUS WHEN YOUNG WERE,, MORE THE LIKELY TO MATE WHILE UNDER
    THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL (A YOUNG MALE CAN EJACULATE BEST WHEN INEBRIATED... LETS IT BE EASIER TO LET LOSE OF HIS GENE-GLUE.(WITHOUT THE GONAD GUILT WHEN HE'S LESS I. INHIBITED TO ENTER THAT BERMUDA TRIANGLE (WHEN BUSH (HAIR DOWN THERE was ABUNDANTLY THRIVING and throbbing.)... US ENTERING THAT BERMUDA TRIANGLE GIVES
    Us young guys A CLOSE CHANGE TO BECOMING A MISSING IN ACTION ERECTION. Also

    BUSH
    .. IS. SO MUCH MORE DECORATIVE THEN THE HAIRLESS-SKIN in vogue by THE HERD... BUSH GIVES. PERSONAL CHARACTER TO GIRLS WHO LOVE US GUYS WHILE WERE IN OUR SQUANDERING OUR SEED PERIOD. THEN WE REALIZE , UPON reaching, maturity. That every V
    SINGLE TADPOLE HAS
    A CHANCE TO. Enter the
    EGG INSTEAD OF MEANINGLESSly DYING After being squirted INTO THE VOID. BUT MOST OF OUR MAN-TADPOLES. CAN'T REACHI THE , EGG CAUSE SAID SQUIRTED TADPOLE OULDN'T
    SWIM WORTH A DAMN. OUR SEED IS IN DEMAND TO CONTINUE THE EXISTING RACE CALLED MANKIND... IT'S SO LOGICAL TO NEED TO PLANT ONES SEED IN EVERY GIRL HE CAN... TO SAVE THE WORLD...

  • Bloodlines of men who valued their own offspring over other's survived more. Focusing on the growth, development and care of their own children is obviously beneficial and there was no certainty of paternity until the advent of DNA testing. So historically only women could be sure that a child was theirs, so there's wasn't a need for the same traits to evolve in women.

    Try taking some more time to reason it through next time.

    • And how did these men conclude their bloodlines were of any significance?

    • Reality/nature decided they were significant by killing off more of the bloodlines that had fathers that didn't care about their kids. Didn't I explain that? It's called evolution.

    • But if there was no DNA testing, historically, there is no certainty that the children men cared for actually belonged to them. In nature, a male's genetic worth is judged by females, not the males themselves. And who the biological father was was only known to females themselves. In this way, the phenomenon of men caring for 'their' children would have no obvious evolutionary significance, as a man could have just as well been providing care for another man's offspring - like you said, this was so until the advent of paternity testing. For millennia men had no way of tracking bloodlines.

  • Basically, men who cared about their biological kids had greater reproductive success than men who didn't because they worked to benefit their own children.

    So guess what. That's who we are all descended from and we take after them.

    • But I thought men didn't raise babies and that was a woman's job?

    • Wrong, I'm a single father raising a daughter. Every situation is different.

    • I thought men who "spread their seed" by laying lots of females had biological success. So says evolutionary psychology. According to that theory men never stuck around to ensure their seeds actually made it beyond the womb.

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