Women: Do you enjoy being so sexually desired? Men: Do you wish you were as sexually desired as women are?

[mistixs]

I have a male, anti-feminist MRA friend (see, men? I obviously don't hate men if I'm willing to be friends with Men's Rights Activists, and they're willing to be friends with me) who said the following:

https://iamretrograde.tumblr.com/post/150305025219/so-you-are-seriously-implying-that-i-am-at-fault
"[Most m]en don’t dehumanize [or] objectify women. “Objectification” is a feminist myth created for sole purpose to turn the fact that women are more loved, more popular and more desired than men into victim points."

It brings to mind how some men are bitter that women are able to utilize sexual power to a greater extent than men.

It also reminds me of an Onision video in which he basically said that women's sexual desirability compared to men, is a good thing for women, enabling women to make money & gain self-esteem boosts by sharing photos of themselves.

However, there are negative sides to this that these men don't realize. Yes, being paid for nudes may provide a self-esteem boost, but the emphasis on beauty makes women feel bad if they don't meet the standard set by society as a general whole.

Also, women being sexually desired more than men - most of us can easily find a guy to fuck within an hour on Tinder, something men spend FOREVER looking for - doesn't necessarily mean we're more "loved." Men can easily fuck, use us a cum dumpster, then dump us.

So...

Women: Do you enjoy being so sexually desired?

Men: Do you wish you were as sexually desired as women are?

[udolipixie]

Women: Do you enjoy being so sexually desired?
F. Not at all.

I see no value or use in being sexually desired. It doesn't affect my self-esteem as I based my self-esteem on my opinion of myself not how many guys sexually desire me.

It's not anything unique to me as I find most guys are sexually available for anyone to stick their dick into. To me it's like telling someone they'll never go hungry because they can eat out of the dumpster anyday.

It's not anything I see as advantageous as while I can go into porn, sell nudes, escort, or prostitute I'll also deal with an industry with an age out (unless I fetishize), the stigma, and any harassment/assault/crime committed to me will likely be victim blamed by me "asking" for it due to me being a sex worker. To me it's like saying "Oh you can get money by doing this but you'll be insulted, degraded, humiliated, dehumanized, objectified and seen as less than.. but hey money".

It's not anything I see any pleasure in considering the oral sex gap (guys of every age range generally get more oral than they give), orgasm gap, slut/stud double standard, STD/STI risk, pregnancy risk, and rape risk. To me it's like saying "hey you can get sex anytime it'll most likely be shitty orgasmless sex in which you're pleasing him risking rape while you get to be called a slut, whore, skank"

[Anonymous]

To me I don’t like being all that sexually attractive. When I was younger I was into wearing the short-shorts and tank tops that showed off my belly-button and it brought me a lot of attention, but not the kind I actually wanted. I ended up being raped because of the way I was dressing and it reminded me you should be wary of wishing for something because you might not get what you’re expecting, but something quite the opposite. I believe now that girls should be sexually attractive, but not to the point we are putting ourselves out there for all to see. Leave something to the imagination. Leave something for the anticipation of what someone might get to see or touch. Even after this past year I’m still working to get over what happened to me.

[Anonymous]

No, because enjoying sex isn't as easy as it is for men. So extreme amounts of sexual attention aren't as alluring. Guys look at women's sexual opportunities with their ease of orgasm and low risk factors and say it'd be so great.

Well, if we got off nearly every time someone touched us sexually, didn't get pregnant and couldn't be killed by our partners so easily, we may enjoy the ease of sexual access more too.

For women, it's like random sex being offered is a mystery box that could hold anything from your favorite treat to something you're allergic to bomb.

[mistixs]

I think women should demand sexual pleasure before they agree to have casual sex. If men have no other choice, he will oBlige and do his best to make you climax

[diegoD]

but giving blowjobs doesn't involve that much risk

[Opinion Owner]

Giving bloalso involves little pleasure for the giving partner.

[diegoD]

then that's a way you can an as you say " more easily, we may enjoy the ease of sexual access more too"

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah, I'd say more bjs would be given if there was assuredness that the favor would be returned.

[miamigirl1970]

As honest as it gets: I love the attention that men bring to women, and I do somewhat agree that when it comes to women and men getting together, the woman truly has all the power... I could be analyzing it wrong, but all in all, Men are Good Creatures, who don't get enough credit from women..

[uskudarist20]

the older the woman the wiser she gets. you understand guys

[miamigirl1970]

@uskudarist20 yes I feel that I do... I have had men as best friends most of my life. Grew up with them, trusted them much more than women when it came time to having someone listen... to this day, my BEST FRIEND is a male! IF more women would stop and really understand that men think different, and handle themselves different, and we are on two totally different playing fields, there would be less divorce for sure...

[mistixs]

You're gorgeous !

[uskudarist20]

thats very true, but lots of women dont understand that because they are a bit immature. im sure that they will understand better once they witnessed certain things

[miamigirl1970]

@uskudarist20 thank you, I feel I do understand men, and I understand that women are usually the ones to send mixed signals. guys just want what they want, and as long as women would understand that, men wouldn't have to be so complex to them

[FatherJack]

@miamigirl1970 This is precisely why I added you on here , sadly you are in the minority of women , more women are negative towards / look down on men , than positive towards us. ( look at the pink downvote !! ) Cultural & " media " brainwashing is mainly to blame , & undeniably , there are total asswipes of men out there , that give us a bad name too. Ultimately you are right , the female is the chooser almost universally in the entire animal kingdom ( yes we ARE very much animals ) , as the female has the far greater & riskier reproductive role. In general women are desired , men are not , we just accept this.

[miamigirl1970]

@FatherJack thank u for recognizing I really understand.. not to get too biblical, but Eve started it all...

[miamigirl1970]

Thanks for the MHO

[vampireelf]

I would totally love to be sexually desired much more :) As a guy, you might hear one time in your life, that you are sexy or hot or something like that. Girls usually dont really give us the feeling of being sexually desireable. But I also think that guys dont need that as much as women do. We just get used to it.
For example, I have been visiting discos and bars with a female friend of mine for like 6 years nearly every weekend. I think she was flirting with one or several guys each time, I have talked with 1 girl in these 6 years, mostly just dancing with myself ;) But that doesn't made her more happy. But as a male, you often feel jelious and would to be as desired as women are. I think these are just two extremes. It would be cool to reach a healthy middle way for both genders. On the other hand, I think it might be a biological/cultural Problem.

But I also have to admit that most girls I know like to be sexually desired a lot. Of cause there are also some bad sides, but many more good sides. A friend of mine always wears her hotpants when I visit her, because she knows how much I like her in that, just to tease me a bit. She just loves being desired.

[alphadoggystyle]

Well obviously it has its advantages for women, but overall its better to be a man, because men are superior to women. Majority of women cannot really use their looks for anything substantial in terms of seducing men. For example any above average or higher quality male is not going to show any sort of affection or special treatment for a woman unless she shows some similar level of interest. We might have to initiate most of the time, but unless we get some kind of reciprocal interest and treatment we will soon be gone.
Do you women envy mens superior capability in pretty much every area of life? do you envy the fact that men rightfully get more respect than women most of the time? (its with good reason since men are on average more intelligent, logical rational, productive and overall just better than women at most things)

Do you envy that men created all of civilization? do you envy the fact that the privileges and rights of women are completely at the mercy of men? the fact that you dont really have any real power, and the fact that in the end you will always be the subordinate and submissive gender?

[mistixs]

Individual men aren't fully "in power" because men are also at the mercy of other men, and there are plenty men who put the interests of women above those of other men.

[alphadoggystyle]

I didn't say individual men are fully in power, im saying that the people in power, at the top of society, are almost exclusively men. And on an individual level, men are more respected even though they won't be catered to as much as the average woman will. And pretty much the only reason some men put the interest of women above other men, is because he has something to gain by doing so, wheter it is votes, sex or a "better" image etc. at its core its important to cater to women to an extent due to them often being more than half of the population and getting their votes, but also due to them being responsible for childbirth. Both of these things are going to change once artificial wombs are available, and when most dangerous jobs and wars are done almost exclusively by robots and healthcare improves, then less men will die early and they will similar in numbers to women in most societies.

[Kapakani]

It's all in what you do!!! These Kpop stars are sexually Desiree on a scale I've never seen before. Girls truly take to love these guys sexually and emotionally. Now I suppose this comes with being an idol also. But there fans come to know there personality and love there body... just go read there twitter and YouTube comments lol...

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No gayness here but man, even I'm like these guys are easily chick magnets lol.

[nala_rawr]

there are tims when it can b a little annoying, but overall, yes its something i like.
its comforting. lol

[MikkyLachae]

I don't think I am sexually desired. Only a guy who thought I was 13 desired me but that doesn't count because that's messed up.

[mistixs]

You're desired but they don't tell you

[Borginborg]

Women used to be objectified and in some parts of the world still are. I like to think us north Americans have gotten past that.
I myself hate being treated and looked at like a piece of meat. Under the rough exterior and behind the rolls of barbed wire I do have fee... fee... those things that make a guy effeminate. I want to be wanted and loved for more than my ability to make you scream and moan but truth is sometimes women make me feel like it is the only thing I am good for.

[Elarra]

I love being sexually desired, but I don't like being sexually idolized and there's a difference.

[mistixs]

What's the difference and why don't you like the latter?

[Elarra]

Sexually desired is attracted and wanted on a personal level. Sexually idolized is attracted and wanted but only out of lust. And because it's weird.

[SarahsSummer]

with great power comes great responsiibility :)

[Berethor]

Not really, as I know the downsides to it, and also I don't really have such a problem of being desired by women, problem is, that it's usually not women that I want, AKA slutty women, also you forget to mention the downsides of being known as an slutty woman. Anyway "Objectification" is an bullshit for the most part, and there is not a problem in being desired, for the most part, even if it's from someone who you don't want, and I know it from my own experience, the real problem is when this someone is too annoying. Those who don't meet the beauty standard are not really desired, or at least not as much, so it's really totally different women to begin with.

[NJ_Casanova]

Yes... I only go out with girls that ask me.

[ElissaDido]

I like it when guys stare at me (not in a creepy way) or when they flirt etc I find it very flaterring.. I don't know about sexually desired though...

[TheBootyChest]

I just want to know that my girlfriend (single a. t. m.) would tell me how bad she wants me from time to time. Just so I know that I am not the one constantly asking for sex, and she is just agreeing cause she wants me to be happy.

[wmasters]

Anyone who truly knows the game knows that women are not simply more sexually desired than men. It's only perceived that way based on the fact that there are more men who aren't having sex, and therefore, desire it more due to the fact that more women are only fucking the same higher caliber men (hypergamy). Most women have a healthier sex life than the average man which would technically suggest that there is no slouch in their desire for sex. Makes the most sense from a biological standpoint.

[springocelot]

Women: Do you enjoy being so sexually desired?

Being desired is better than not being desired. Especially from a guy you like.

[abundantlyrich]

Yes if i can profit from it 😑

[JohnDoe3000]

"but the emphasis on beauty makes women feel bad if they don't meet the standard set by society as a general whole"

I think we're moving to a world which puts (almost) equal emphasis on male beauty, it's just a matter of time really. And that's why I don't really agree with the group of MRAs your friend belongs to. Not sure if it's much better to be liked for other things, like intelligence, though, because those are just as dependent on genetics as beauty, heck even being able to muster the willpower to improve something about you that you can change depends a lot on genetics...

[ADFSDF1996]

Did you just admit that women think men don't look as good as women do? Of course I wish men where desiredas much as women are. It would make dating easier.

[ADFSDF1996]

*desirable

[ADFSDF1996]

*as desirable as much as women are.

[mistixs]

It doesn't necessarily mean dating is easier for us. Just because more people are willing to jack off to us doesn't mean they're more willing to date us

[ADFSDF1996]

Still though, women think men don't look as good as women do.

[mistixs]

But that doesn't necessarily benefit us women. Aside from potential ego boost due to compliments etc

[ADFSDF1996]

It does benefit you because it gives you a better advantage when seeking relationships. Men don't look good to women so women only look for personality which is unfortunate.

[ADFSDF1996]

I don't mean to be rude but are you bisexual? No offense. I'm just curious.

[mistixs]

Yes I'm bi

[ADFSDF1996]

Ah, alright. I think I understand why you think women are more desired than men are. Thanks for replying🙂.

[Maik567]

I don't think there is a person in the world who doesn't like feeling sexy at least sometimes. So yeah I do enjoy it and I appreciate it when a girl makes me feel handsome/whatever.

I don't really understand tho how you say that men spend FOREVER looking for someone to fuck on tinder, but in the next sentence you say it's easy for guys to use you as a cumbucket and immediately dump you.

[Bandit74]

Yeah, I think that would be better.

[legs_n_sheets]

One one side, it is great as a guy not to depend that much on looks and develop other areas. I guess the fact that being attractive as a male is far more than looks gives you space on other areas to improve. Women on the other hand, seem more concerned with looks and social image.

On the downside, I definitely give it to them, looks and the sexual appeal they have for guys gives them massive advantage. They can get a lot of things, and get away with things just based on their looks.

I don't agree men "spend all their time" to fuck women. Sure, men spend time improving themselves while being aware it'll make them attractive, no doubt. But men want validation from girls in general, and it isn't necessarily sexual release with a girl what they are after.

[legs_n_sheets]

On one*

[Alexious]

I wouldn't really know if I'm sexually desired, because it isn't really a thing I talk with girls about..

I still have my v card, and I have had people tell me they would take it.. but it doesn't really bother me haha

[archiz]

I enjoy the attention but when I get it it makes me feel awkward
yea I am smthng hah