Do you agree we should legalize female circumcision until male circumcision gets banned?

[Anonymous]

We shouldn't be hypocritical.
If baby boys have the right to get their foreskin cut off then baby girls should also have the right to get their clitoris cut off.

Either both should be legal or both should be illegal.

[AnotherConfusedGirl]

Enjoy the benefits of circumcision? There are no benefits to circumcision. You're a fucking idiot. 'Studies in Tanzania prove that circumcision reduces HIV?' There's no biological reason for this you complete imbecile its because women are having less sex because its not enjoyable because YOU'VE REMOVED THEIR CLITORIS! Which means no more orgasms. Why would any girl want to have sex (other than reproduction) if they can't orgasm? Also, you mentioned previously that its rare for girls to orgasm? I orgasm all the God damn time. Multiple orgasms. You're just shit at sex.
Any type of circumcision should be banned, including the removal of foreskin unless its detrimental to the persons health. Bloody hell, you don't see people cutting off their ears or their fingers for a laugh do you? Why start hacking at your genitals?

[FakeName123]

"Any type of circumcision should be banned, including the removal of foreskin" Pretty sure that's askers point and he just stated it controversial on purpose - by pointing out the double standard.

[Asker]

Studies accounted for how much the women had sex, they still found a pure correlation between reduced risk of HIV transmission and female circumcision.

[AnotherConfusedGirl]

@FakeName123 so what? Two wrongs make a right? Instead of legalising female genital mutilation (because it is mutilation) he should be fighting to make male circumcision illegal because there is no benefit to either

[FakeName123]

I mean, I could be wrong by his intention - but let's assume I am correct. The point is to steer people up with something this controversial, because they know how wrong female circumcision is and that making them eventually also realise that male circumcision is as wrong. Nothing to do with two wrongs not making a right. If my assumption of his intention is correct, he would want both to be illegal and just make people realise that both is wrong by equating them as both interfere with a persons bodily autonomy and human rights.

[AnotherConfusedGirl]

@FakeName123 that's not the impression I got when I read his reply to other commenters. Also then the wording of the question is all wrong the word 'benefits' should never have been mentioned

[FakeName123]

Didn't read his replies in the comments, but just his initial question. So you might be correct. I just explained that it certainly can mean what I assumed it does. Sometimes being offensive and controversial is a way to get attention to an perceived issue through outcry.

[John_Lion_84]

@FakeName123 His statement is ''female circumcision reduces the risk of HIV'' Look at my conversation (he put links too)

[AnotherConfusedGirl]

@FakeName123 I can see where you are coming from with this, I can understand picking a controversial question to get attention for a certain topic

[FakeName123]

@John_Lion_84 Fair enough. Definitely makes my assumption wrong. I might thought too positive of the asker then ;) @AnotherConfusedGirl No biggie. As I said to John_Lion_84 it seems my assumption was wrong to begin with.

[John_Lion_84]

Me? o_O

[FakeName123]

@John_Lion_84 The anonymous asker of this topic. Except you have a second account with which you started this question ;)

[Asker]

@FakeName123 No way, I'm totally 100% not John.

[John_Lion_84]

What? Am one person with one account and am against the asker's idea... Once again look at my openion conversation. That was a little bit harsh to assuming i am the asker, HELLS NO

[FakeName123]

@John_Lion_84 Mate, it was some banter. That's why the smiley.

[John_Lion_84]

@FakeName123 I must missed it because this !!! What ever this is , it makes me get frustrated.

[RJGraveyTrain]

The female equivalent of male circumcision would be to remove the labia, not the clitoris, since the clitoris is essentially the same makeup of the head of the penis. So if we really want it to be "equal" that would be the actual way to go about it, but then again I was always taught "two wrongs don't make a right."

Besides, remove a woman's clit and see how much sex y'all get afterwards, unless dead fish that have no sense of pleasure is what turn you on.

Now that doesn't say I support circumcision, I think it should be an individual choice made by the person to go through with it, it isn't our bodies so it isn't our right to start chopping stuff off.

[Asker]

Most women don't want sex anyway unless they have to do it (to get a relationship or money), so it won't affect them.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Lmao now it all makes sense. You tell yourself whatever makes you feel better pumpkin. xD

[Asker]

It's true. You just don't like the truth. Women sell sex and men buy it.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Well I'm a woman, who lives with a man who makes less money than her, and I have lots of sexy fun times. So I'm either not a woman or not all of us fall under a statistic Mr. Troll.

[Asker]

You're a huge exception. Most women find men who make less money than them very unattractive and would never be with them. T'is a fact. Women only want to have sex with men who make more money than them. Go to dating sites and see for yourself.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Lol hurray for me being an exception then because IDGAF.

[Asker]

And you're probably lying. Or perhaps you put a time frame on your boyfriend where if he doesn't start making more money then you'll leave him.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Lmao of course, there is no other logical conclusion xD

[Asker]

Yeah actually I'm 100% positive. And if somehow it is true then there's something wrong and you're not really attracted to him, you must be with him for some other reason. It's instinct, women will only accept to give sex to men who are providers, not men who work at McDonald's.

[Asker]

Tell me, if your boyfriend didn't have a job and lived with his parents, would you still have sex with him? No? I rest my case.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Considering he lived with his widowed father and took care of him when we met, yes. I would still have passionate sex with him.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Also, he works part time at a store in the local mall, I'm an office woman. I still love the guy. Lol.

[VSVixen]

The only reason I wouldn't have sex is if he acts like YOU.

[RJGraveyTrain]

@VSVixen #troof

[VSVixen]

He posted the same question a few days ago with that study from some backward African country. I actually read it and figured only a very disturbed person could entertain such ideas of FGM. Especially when it is a man it can spell only one thing: frustration. God forbid he takes it further...

[RJGraveyTrain]

@VSVixen To be honest I don't fully take the guy seriously. He could very well just be a bitter troll so it's best to not be too terribly impacted. I'm certainly not. Lol.

[Asker]

I said if he didn't have a job and "lived with his parents" (i. e. they take care of him not the other way around), would you still have sex with him? No I didn't think so.

[VSVixen]

@RJGraveyTrain don't forget Miss Handice Leftis, his so called girlfriend. LOL

[RJGraveyTrain]

If I was in love with him, totally. Not everybody is where they wanna be in life in the very beginning.

[Asker]

So as I said, you'd give him a time frame wherein if he didn't start making lots of money and have his own house, you'll leave him. Thanks for finally admitting it.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Considering he doesn't make lots of money now, I'd say no. As long as we're stable (if that means I'm the primary provider, cool) then it's all kosher. Though, you won't believe that and you'll keep trollin'. XD

[flypaper]

I also make more then my Husband... so do a couple of my friends. My mom also makes more then my Dad... I really don't get the point of this argument anymore.

[Elarra]

The only thing that will happen with female circumcision is that it will just make us less in the mood because it's literally just cutting of the clitoris, which is what stimulates most women in the first place, so unless you want less sex, I suggest you think otherwise.

Plus, male circumcision happens when they are infants and they don't remember it. Female circumcision happens when women are about 14 or 15. So I don't see how that could be remotely fair.

[NeutralMale]

Your confusing female circumcision to female genital mutilation. Female circumcision just removes the labia whereas female genital mutilation removes the clitoris.

[Elarra]

@NeutralMale Female circumcision: a procedure performed especially as a cultural rite that typically includes the total or partial excision of the female external genitalia and especially the clitoris and labia minora and that is now outlawed in many nations including the United States

[Elarra]

Yeah, because circumcision and rape are completely related lol Also, raping a female infant can kill her, just fyi

[NeutralMale]

No it's not the removal of the clitoris. Type it up.

[Elarra]

@NeutralMale So I guess Merriam-Webster is wrong, right? I did look it up and that's the literal definition.

[Elarra]

Okay, now you just sound like an idiot equating male circumcision to rape. I honestly don't know a single guy who cares that he's circumcised. This literally sounds like a first world problem.

[Asker]

I honestly don't know a single girl who cares that she's circumcised. This literally sounds like a first world problem.

[Elarra]

Ah, I see, you can't come up with your own argument so you just try to copy mine lol, that's funny. Just down vote my opinion since you don't agree with it and move on lol

[Asker]

Your arguments are ridiculous and disgusting.

[NeutralMale]

It isn't about cutting off the clitoris for the 3rd time. Type it up and look properly.

[Elarra]

@NeutralMale So you are going to argue with the medical definition? Okay lol, you have all types of fun with that And my arguments are ridiculous and disgusting, why are you using them?

[NeutralMale]

You're annoying me now. The definition of female circumcision had nothing to do with removing the clitoris. Your getting confused with FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION.

[NeutralMale]

has* literally just look at what your reading properly.

[Donanski]

@NeutralMale "Female genital mutilation (FGM), also known as female genital cutting and female circumcision, is the ritual removal of some or all of the external female genitalia." Note the "also known as" part

[NeutralMale]

@Donanski Can you read? It says "some" of the female genitalia "some" meaning the labia. Female genital mutilation is the removal of the clitoris. They aren't the same thing at all.

[Donanski]

@NeutralMale They are the same thing, you can call it any of those names and cut any part off and it's still going to be the same thing.

[NeutralMale]

@Donanski It's not the same thing. i disagree with both but female mutilation which is the removal of the labia is the equivalent to male circumcision so it should be legal if male circumcision is legal.

[Donanski]

@NeutralMale what you're talking about is a vaginoplasty lmao, that's already legal. That's plastic surgery.

[NeutralMale]

@Donanski No im talking about female circumcision.

[Donanski]

@NeutralMale The removal of just the labia (so not the clitoris, which you seem to stress) is a legal cosmetic procedure. That is also female circumcision. You can do that for whatever reason you want but it's nothing more than cosmetic surgery.

[NeutralMale]

@Donanski How is that a cosmetic surgery is male circumcision isn't?

[NeutralMale]

if**

[Donanski]

@NeutralMale it is. There are no real advantages to it or reasons why people would for things other than personal beliefs or unless (for example) the foreskin is too tight to pull back. Maybe it's not socially accepted as cosmetic surgery, but unless it's like my example, male circumcision is also cosmetic.

[NeutralMale]

@Donanski Is it classed as cosmetic surgery?

[Donanski]

@NeutralMale In pretty much the whole world, it is.

[NeutralMale]

@Donanski It's so common that you wouldn't think it was.

[Donanski]

@NeutralMale I know, but it still is. And in my opinion it's rather sad. I personally would prefer a man with his skin still on, but I wouldn't turn someone away just because they are circumcised. One of the main reasons it even happens (like in America) is because their parents think their kid will be made fun of for having a different looking penis. That's why it's cosmetic. That and the fact it has no medical benefits.

[NeutralMale]

@Donanski Yeah it's really really dumb.

[Anonymous]

You're trolling, right?

If not, if by any chance you're serious, you must lead a very lonely non-sexual life because not only are you weird but you must also be a really arrogant sexist guy and I can't imagine any girl wanting to spend more than 30 seconds with someone like you !

[Anonymous]

Yeah I don't see any reason for it to be illegal if it's what they want. Just like if I want to cut my toe off it's my choice

[Asker]

Dam right

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks for MHO. Didn't realise you said baby girls though, I think it's wrong to do it to babies (boys too) cause they can't choose for themselves

[Asker]

We should wait till she's at least 7 years old so she knows what's happening and wants to go along with it.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah, probably even older, like 16 or 18. Best if she's felt orgasms before she chooses and also so she's old enough so her parents can't tell her to do it

[Goldie757]

Given the blindingly obvious practical and medical differences between the procedures, it is deeply irresponsible to attribute the different treatment of these topics as some sort of underhanded conspiracy.

[Asker]

"Given the blindingly obvious practical and medical differences between the procedures" There aren't any.

[Goldie757]

There are many, you are just to ignorant to listen to anyone on this site. It does it matter how facts that have been proven by medical research people state on this site, you still completely disregard them. You cannot back up any of your claims. Not forgetting that you constantly rude and disrespectful to anyone who disagrees with you.

[Asker]

Men need their penis. Women don't need their clitoris. Proof is the hundreds of millions of women who are circumcised and happy with it.

[Goldie757]

What is important to remember about male circumcision is that the focus is on removing foreskin and sometimes the tissue connecting the foreskin to the penis but never on amputating part or all of the penile shaft. Whether or not frenulum tissue is removed may affect a man’s sexuality and may not since the majority of circumcised men are able to achieve erections and have orgasms.

[Goldie757]

Probably the biggest difference between male and female circumcision is how much more tissue, how much more genitalia, is removed during a typical female circumcision. Sometimes, the female’s outer vulva – the outer “lips” on her vagina – are removed. But often, both the outer and inner vulva are removed, in a circumcision called “infibulation.” Then the opening is stitched to form a small hole, out of which urine and menstrual blood may have difficulty exiting. And given any scar tissue surrounding the hole, it can become rather inelastic, making sexual penetration by the male exceedingly difficult at first. Thus, in many cultures that practice infibulation on females, it can take an average of two weeks of hard thrusting on the male’s part to penetrate his wife’s vagina, achievable largely because he is also circumcised, and therefore his foreskin can not be torn by this thrusting. For some couples, it can take the man up to a month to achieve penetration.

[Asker]

I never mentioned infibulation. I was only talking about trimming the labia and clitoris. There's no real disadvantages to that. Also about the foreskin tearing, I believe you have it the other way around. Penises get tears because of a lack of foreskin not because of it. Often even simple erections can lead to tears and bloodloss as there's not enough skin to accommodate the expansion of the penis.

[Goldie757]

You clearly have difficulty reading. Is English your first language?

[Asker]

If you're talking pound for pound then more tissue is removed during male circumcision than during female.

[LittleSally]

You're an idiot.

[Donanski]

No one should go through that. Men or women. That's just one of the crazy things Americans do. (And others for religious beliefs)

Neither have any medical advantages. But foreskin sells well in the medical industry.

I have to say though, male circumcision has less impact on the individual than female circumcision. If you want to compare the two, female circumcision is like cutting the dickhead off. Yeah you can live without it. But your pleasure is ruined.

Also I've always wondered this (for religious people) if God made you perfect the way you are then why do you cut something off he put on you?

[Donanski]

And for your counterargument, men can also still make babies and have sex without a dickhead.

[Asker]

Cause apparently they know better than God. So they need to correct the mistakes he made when he created them.

[Donanski]

I mean you're being too obvious of a troll now. Tone down the retardation and have a grown up discussion.

[Asker]

Yes, "How can he say sex is that important to men? Obvious troll"

[Donanski]

The troll part is where you act as if sex is not important to women.

[Asker]

Men and women think very differently in regards to the importance of sex. But you don't seem to be willing to accept that fact.

[Donanski]

That is different for every individual person, regardless of gender. What you are saying is simply the social norm and the way it's generally viewed. But it is far from the truth.

[Donanski]

If you want to disagree with that fine, but that pretty much means that you believe any girl who you have had or ever will have sex with, did not want to have sex with you. Or didn't really care about having sex with you. Or did not find it of any importance to have sex with you. And that's rather sad to think.

[Asker]

No it isn't. And it's not a social norm. It's a biological drive. Men see sex is far more important that women.
An example is the reaction of women on TV shows and social media when they hear a story of a man's penis being cut off by a woman, they all laugh and say "you go girl!" Then the men are outraged and be like "How are you laughing at something so horrific?" and the women say "Lol what's the big deal it's just his junk." The men in this case see it as a horrifying act of mutilation worse than death, but women are amused and think it's awesome cause they don't see the penis having any importance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkmanLIAdXI

[Donanski]

I don't even know how to respond to that. Honestly, the woman probably had a pretty good reason. If not, (and even if so) I find it quite repulsive. Especially the reactions. I don't find it amusing and I can't think of any women who would. Of course the penis has importance, and so do female genitalia. Objectively, as a joke. Yeah it's funny. But so would it be if it were the other way around gender wise. In reality, it's terrible. And that also goes for both genders. By the way, you do know that studio audiences/hosts/guests like that are told to react a certain way that suits the target audience, and are often paid for it too. To stay on topic, women want sex as much as men. But we (apparently, not me) don't admit it like men would. And that's because of the social differences between our genders. You think women don't have a natural instinct to reproduce? Why do you think they have pleasurable parts of sexual organs then?

[Asker]

"Honestly, the woman probably had a pretty good reason. If not, (and even if so) I find it quite repulsive" And that's another thing, you simply try to justify it and say "lol he must have done something, she probably had a reason". You could have simply said: "That's horrible, that woman should be mutilated herself" but you didn't because you yourself don't see the crime as a big deal. Women see the penis as this visibly repulsive wiggly thing, so when a woman cuts one off they cheer her on and demand she be spared jail. They don't see the big deal. And all this brings us back to the original point that sex is far more important to men than to women.

[Asker]

Fact is men would never laugh at a woman's vagina being attacked with a chainsaw by her husband. They'd be horrified and they'd demand the man be castrated. That's the key difference again, we see sex is a really really big fucking deal, whereas women don't give it a second thought.

[Donanski]

I've done some crazy shit for good reasons. I wouldn't ever do this, but it's not as if some feminist just randomly cut her husbands penis off and people are cheering because of it. I do think she deserves equal punishment, but just saying, I don't find this video a legit argument on why men would find sex more important than women. And I do not support this womans actions, no matter how important I find sex.

[Asker]

I'll repost: "Fact is men would never laugh at a woman's vagina being attacked with a chainsaw by her husband. They'd be horrified and they'd demand the man be castrated." That fact is crucial. It proves the difference in the view of the importance of sex between men and women. And the fact you said "Honestly, the woman probably had a pretty good reason" proves you don't see much gravity to this crime as your initial thought was that her possibly hurt feelings justify her mutilation of her husband. i. e You saw "Possibly hurt feelings" as a good enough "reason" to "cut off his penis". It's proof you didn't see it as a big deal.

[Mazout]

Lol I like how this bitch was at first that there's a "pretty good reason" to cut his dick off then goes on to pretend she's "repulsed" by it.

[Donanski]

@Mazout dont call me a fucking bitch you piece of shit

[Donanski]

There's a good enough reason for everything. Even to kill someone. Doesn't take away the fact that it's a terrible thing to do. Why do you act as if I take it lightly? I don't. But you've got to understand that this is American television, and America is a ridiculous place. Which is why I would never set foot in it. For all I care America can burn to the fucking ground. So I'll repeat: I don't find this video a legit argument on why men would find sex more important than women. And I do not support this womans actions, no matter how important I find sex.

[Mazout]

I call you what you are.

[Donanski]

@Mazout with your attitude, yeah, I'll be a bitch to you.

[Asker]

Oh come off it. The only reason you said she had "a pretty good reason" was that you were trying to justify it. Stop trying to twist it like you meant something else. When someone first hears that there was murder they don't go "there was a probably a pretty good reason". You and most women react the same way. Jees just go to facebook

Here's some disqus comments too:
https://crimefeed.com/2015/01/man-beats-wife/

How about some cheeky jezebel:
jezebel.com/.../thai-women-cut-cocks-because-murder-isnt-enough

Generally all the comments range from "You go girl!, to "he must have deserved it", to "OMG all this fuss over his willy?"

It doesn't matter whether it's america or not. Every time there's a woman who cuts off someone's penis (and that happens very often) all women laugh, say he deserved it, will rush to her aid, and demand she be freed or else (and most often the perpetrator is freed).

[Asker]

This is getting off topic, so I'll say it again, the reason women are so amused and want the female mutilator freed is because they don't give sex much thought. They don't see the slightest big deal in such a crime. To a man the idea of not being able to be a sexual being anymore is horrifying, to us sex is one of the basics of life. This is why our reactions to this crime are so drastically different. If you'd just admit that we can end the conversation. Your claiming that sex is anywhere near as important to women as to men is disingenuous. You know that.

[Donanski]

Sex is more important to me than a lot of men in this world. Same goes for a lot of other women. Sexual urges are not defined by gender. You know that.

[Asker]

You go ahead and ignore all the facts I said and believe that.

[Donanski]

Not sure what 'facts' you're talking about

www.theatlantic.com/.../

mic.com/.../science-proves-that-women-want-sex-just-as-much-as-men-do

I can look up more but ugh

[Asker]

These are sensationalist tabloids. They mean nothing. You're still trying to sidestep the fact women find no big deal and laugh in penis mutilation cases. I gave you a good explanation for that. It's cause to a woman the loss of the sexual organs is as important as the loss of a fingernail. They simply don't care that much. It's not horrifying to women as it is to men. To men sex is the essence and meaning of life. Women would rather just cuddle and kiss.

[kellyg83]

Nope. I don't think either should have to go through it, but I won't allow it for myself or my kids.

[Mustachekitteh]

Oh joy, another dude that doesn't like women. yay

They shouldn't make anyone get circumcise unless they want to get it done.

[Asker]

I like women very much. That's why I want them to benefit from female circumcision.

[Mustachekitteh]

What benefit? There isn't any benefit that comes with that and the same goes for men. Basically having the clit cut off equals to as if a man got his balls cut of, It being that traumatic mentally.

Procedures can cause severe bleeding and problems urinating, and later cysts, infections, as well as complications in childbirth and increased risk of newborn deaths.
www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/

[Asker]

It does actually reduce transmission of HIV. And circumcision women are less likely to be sluts.

[Mustachekitteh]

The slut part is irreverent when it mostly ends in them dying.

[Asker]

It's extremely rare for anyone to die from female circumcision. And when done in a hospital death becomes almost non-existent.

[Mustachekitteh]

Then are you willing to have your balls cut off? You might as well if you want people to cut off a females clit.

[Asker]

That's not the same thing...

[Mustachekitteh]

Never mind it would be more like if you cut off the entire head of a dudes dick. It would be 100% like having that done and if you're willing to have your dicks head chopped off then yeah things will be equal. How could you feeling having your entire head chopped off?

[Asker]

You know I've already had this conversation a hundred times. I'm done.

[BertMacklinFBI]

and they said one word... one word to change it all... equality

[RJGraveyTrain]

#datsarcasm

[BertMacklinFBI]

@RJGraveyTrain #RJalwaysGetsMe <3

[RJGraveyTrain]

#yehbuddeh <3

[Hai_tis_E]

Completely different things. Cutting the clitoris off is equivalent to cutting the entire head of a penis off. Circumcision isn't cruel usually it is done for religious reasons or medical reasons. I agree if it is done otherwise its wrong. Even for religious reasons the kid should decide for himself.

[Asker]

I'll say it again, they're not the same thing. Women can have sex and make babies and do all those things without a clitoris. Cutting it off has no disadvantage.

[Hai_tis_E]

And cutting off a foreskin has no disadvantages, you can still make babies , no? My first comments still stand

[John_Lion_84]

This is not your first tine about this subject. It's not the same thing, the foreskin for women in this case is the labia and not the clitros, the clitros is more like the head of the penis. You should read more.

[Asker]

You don't know anything about anatomy.

[John_Lion_84]

Nither you. Clitros is not like the penis foreskin. Clitros is an organ NOT A FORESKIN and it's the female's most senstive erogenous zone and generally the primary anatomical source of human female sexual pleasure. The foreskin is nothing like the clitros, NOT EVEN CLOSE. It's skin around an organ, not the organ it self.

[Asker]

The clitoris is internal. The penis glans is not comparable to the outer visible tip of the clitoris.

[John_Lion_84]

Genius! Clitros provid pleasure. Why do you want to take the pleasure from the females if i may ask? We all do know the clitoris It is not required for reproduction which is your best argument. So why take the pleasure genius?

[Asker]

They can still feel pleasure without it, genius.

[John_Lion_84]

Nice try. Am not sure what is it you are after, and SPOILERS ALERT!!! It's not gonna happen. And can you please explain WHY you want to cut the clitros? Just once explain why and give a logical reason. What are the benefits of cutting the women's clitros?

[Asker]

It reduces the risk of contracting HIV. Studies in Tanzania proved this.

[John_Lion_84]

That was very weak and it has nothing to what any thing you said/wrote/answered, irrelevant to everything even the title of your poll. And oh Mr. Anonymous genius contact all the scientist who dedicated all their lives for human organs studies to correct them selves that women can have intercourse pleasure WITHOUT THE CLITROS. This is beautiful.

[Asker]

I have no idea what you said but here's the proof female circumcision reduces the risk of HIV:
Study from Tanzania: www.tzonline.org/.../...hivinfectionintanzania.pdf

Study from Kenya: scholarworks.gsu.edu/.../viewcontent.cgi

[John_Lion_84]

It looks very legitimate (cough) . Once again read what your poll/question says and look at your answer about th HIV, it makes no sense totaly irrelevant to the HIV subject. You will not get what you seek. No matter how uneducated i sound to you but it's better than cuttin off the woman's clitros and comparing it to the man's foreskin. If it's true that it reduces the risk of HIV, i think the world will know about it, NO DOUBT.

[This_is_my_username]

chopping off any part of your genitalia is wrong.

[pooper89]

Female "circumcision" is not comparable to male circumcision

[Asker]

They are identical. In fact male circumcision has more problems and complications than female circumcision.

[pooper89]

Can you back up those claims please?

[Flurr]

"They are identical" hahahahaha what a troll thing to say

[Asker]

Yes. Circumcision causes thousands of deaths and hundreds of thousands of complete penile amputations yearly. The circumcision racket covers up these facts by registering the complication in statistics as a result of some other problem, when in fact it was a botched circumcision. It's greed, doctors and the so called "World Health Organization" are only looking to keep lining their own pockets. Also circumcised men are far more likely to suffer ED at a younger age. And they often get painful erections and blood loss and skin tears when they are erect due to there not being enough skin to accommodate the penis's expansion.

[Flurr]

I'm guessing your doctor fucked you up? I don't where you're from but there are lots of shitty doctors out there and this is pretty much a non issue here since we have such high standards for the medical profession.

[Asker]

@Flurr Actually in Canada it's a very serious issue and it's covered up by doctors for the reason I mentioned above. And I'm not circumcised. Go back to trying to feel better about your mutilated dick.

[Flurr]

Troll, it is not an issue, and it is not identical to female circumcision. At your age you should know the difference between male and female genitalia.

[Asker]

@Flurr I like how you people keep trying to rationalize your mutilated cocks. It's amusing.. There's youtube, they talk from first hand experience about what happens in Canada. You should look it up if you're interested.

[Flurr]

What kind of sand hill country are you from to be amused by mutilation? Youtube isn't a source for researching.

[Asker]

@Flurr Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL5repF3JFc

[Flurr]

That's a youtube video...

[Asker]

@Flurr With on-the-ground urologists and researchers interviewed.

[Flurr]

That's not good enough, I want some kind of documentary from a credible source to watch it on youtube. I understand that you're trying but look at it from my side when you have a computer automated voice doing the commentary.

[Asker]

@Flurr You mean a documentary from the WHO? Don't hold your breath. Circumcision is too profitable.

[VSVixen]

I know you you are the frustrated guy who gets off on ideas of FGM.

[Flurr]

What a troll...

[Waffles731]

There ARE no real benefits and before you give me that 'lower risk of HIV'
DON'T EVER FUCKING HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX IF YOUR PARTNER IS HIV POSITIVE.

[Asker]

Sometimes the partner lies about their HIV status :)

[Waffles731]

"Sometimes the partner lies about their HIV status "
Which is actually a felony
en.wikipedia.org/.../Criminal_transmission_of_HIV_in_the_United_States

[Asker]

It's still better to avoid HIV to begin with, so female circumcision rules!

[Waffles731]

Except you are still exposing yourself to the other person bodily fluids...

[Asker]

With less risk.

[Waffles731]

"Less risk" Barely, if you fuck someone with HIV chances are you get HIV even if the chick is circumcized

[Jessicocoa]

Removing the clitoris would actually be more like removing the head of the penis not the foreskin.

[TuMeManques]

Exactly

[Asker]

Not at all. Women can still have sex and make babies without the clitoris, so removing it is all benefits.

[Jessicocoa]

But it is the equivalent to the head of the penis. If you make getting rid of the clit legal in order to make it fair you must make it legal to remove the head of the penis as well.

[Asker]

The head of the penis is huge and is far more utilitarian than a clit, it the center of male orgasms and is vital for reproduction and sex. The clit is just a tiny piece of tissue smaller than a pencil eraser, women can be fine without it. They still have their vagina.

[NeutralMale]

Female circumcision isn't removing the clitoris, that's called female genital mutilation. Female mutilation just removes the labia.

[NeutralMale]

Female circumcision just removes the labia*

[Jessicocoa]

1. But the equivalent to the foreskin is the clitoral hood not the clit. The clitoral hood is much more anatomically similar to the foreskin. 2. Many people value pleasure over reproductive abilities. In fact I would love to not be able to get pregnant but I would also love to keep my clit.

[NeutralMale]

I think that's removes too during female circumcision. It's not unhealthy or anything. I don't support it at all, i don't support male circumcision either, i think it's wrong but if people see men being circumcised as okay then i think it would be fair to allow female circumcision to be legal. Again, i don't support either.

[Touchmehxx]

Troll

[WhaChaChaKing]

Male circumcision is not nearly as danergous as female circumcision is so no.

[Anonymous]

You must have never had an orgasm you poor child

[Anonymous]

Just because one group doesn't have the same rights as other, let's just take them from everyone instead of fighting to make them universal because that makes so much sense! And cutting off a clitoris really is the same thing as cutting off foreskin! Try harder next time, troll!

[Asker]

Cutting off the foreskin causes more problems than cutting off the clitoris!

[Opinion Owner]

Wow, you really have no fucking idea what you're talking about!

[Asker]

No you're the one who has no idea what she's talking about! The clitoris is just a piece of meat smaller than a pencil eraser. The foreskin serves very important and crucial functions.

[VSVixen]

Hehehehehheheehheheege CRUCIAL

[Anonymous]

it's not the same while it is good for boys it can be bad for girls

[Asker]

Studies in Tanzania prove female circumcision drastically reduces the risk of HIV.

[Opinion Owner]

Studies also show that it can effect orgasm in a negative way

[Asker]

Fake studies. Most women don't even have orgasms during sex anyway, so not having a clit won't affect them much.

[Opinion Owner]

ı dont think so

[Asker]

Believe it.